German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Sirioja]

Since the owner of Artemis is Turkish guy, it is better for Artemis to stick to Turkish food only and kebab.

I do not go to FKK to eat, but it would be nicer if the food in FKK is nicer.

I love kebab, ate whole night until 4 am at Samya, was also quite good at Velbert on Fridays and Saturdays on 2016/2017. I don't fuck before eating. On Sunday 12 March 2017, just arriving at LR, my best ever girl came straight to me even before I saw her, telling me: If you want me, I want to go with you. She usually weekly started her day with me. One of our best room in 21 in sunlight with her exceptional behavior, but after 1 h30 in bed, I went straight to eat just after.

[ExpatLover]

EL: I used to book many escort when I see the photos from villa-Venezia for sure I will never go there, all is photoshop and smell the cheating.

[Bfsie]

The concept of a "sugar baby" is nothing new. It's just been called different things over time. What you're talking about here is more of a "kept woman". And I bet for all that money she wasn't even doing anal!

I agree it is more of a "kept woman" as you said. You are also right that she didn't do anal. I did her many times before she worked in that high-end sex club. She told me that she didn't do anal, although I never asked her to do it because anal is not my thing.

The two ladies I see in NYC now aren't going to get taken off the market. They both charge a lot, have other jobs, are very independent, and have relationships with other girls. One said she sometimes books other female sex workers for sessions. Independents by nature, particularly if they have worked in the industry for a while, are unlikely to put too many eggs in one basket.

I would imagine that the incall brothels in New York would be very difficult to survive nowadays if they advertize.

[HammerTime96]

Recently I drove past Saarlouis in Saarland, and after viewing the line up of ladies (see link below), I was highly tempted to try a visit at Villa Venetia.

https://www.villa-venezia.de/en/ladies.html

However when you click on a photo, you see the following warning in German: "WICHTIGER HINWEIS WEGEN Covid19:

Alle Services können geändert oder nicht erlaubt sein. Aktuelle Informationen bitte per E-Mail oder telefonisch erfagen!

Rough translation: "Important notice due to Covid19; all services can be either changed or not allowed. Please call or email for current information. "

Not wanting to get ripped off, and not wanting to fuck a girl wearing one of those face diapers, I didn't even bother to call.

[The Cane]

I was joking a little about her being his sugar baby because she moved in to this guy's house although she still kept her own apartment. Presumably this dude thought they were in an exclusive SD / SB relationship, which means she was only having sex with him. So the relationship is a little different from sugar baby we understand now. I would say he rented her.

In addition, she was a 19-year-old model in NY and, in my opinion, could easily beat any WG in FKK clubs I have seen in terms of look and figure. So I think that 20 K to 25 K a month is not overpriced in New York.

The concept of a "sugar baby" is nothing new. It's just been called different things over time. What you're talking about here is more of a "kept woman". And I bet for all that money she wasn't even doing anal!

[Mongerer88]

I was joking a little about her being his sugar baby because she moved in to this guy's house although she still kept her own apartment. Presumably this dude thought they were in an exclusive SD / SB relationship, which means she was only having sex with him. So the relationship is a little different from sugar baby we understand now. I would say he rented her.

In addition, she was a 19-year-old model in NY and, in my opinion, could easily beat any WG in FKK clubs I have seen in terms of look and figure. So I think that 20 K to 25 K a month is not overpriced in New York.

You reminded me of a funny story. The best looking lady I ever saw in New York City was a blond Ukrainian long ago in a makeshift brothel on Water Street, which is right by Wall Street. Huge apartment with three bedrooms and a very large living room. This was before the Cyclones of Shit in New York City, so all they wanted as screening was an out-of-state license. I had read on a review board that she was brand new and smoking hot. I got there too early after making an appointment for a specific time and was informed that she was running late. The place was hilarious in that they truly had curtains and ropes in strategic positions to try to make it so that customers did not see each other. I was placed in the huge living room and a chunky Puerto Rican girl with big boobs held my hand while we watched TV and told me she was available if I didn't want to wait. I kept telling myself, Wait, Wait, No Chunky Puerto Rican. Thank God I did. One of the doors opened and I could see a blond girl leading a guy in a suit and tie through the maze. I didn't see distinguishable faces, but he clearly said I will see you tomorrow. She cane out to get me 10-15 minutes later and she was everything she was cracked up to be. She really wasn't that expensive either, although it was long ago. Like $350 or $400 for one hour with two cums (which was less of a problem to accomplish when I was younger). She had just arrived from the Ukraine to study Psychology in college. Sure enough, she was gone from the online roster in about three weeks. Someone took her off the market, clearly. The place on Water Street was gone a year or so later. Someone said the ladies complained about lack of hot water in the winter (too many hot showers I guess), but who knows? The group switched to multiple small incall places by appointment for a while, then eventually disappeared entirely when the scene changed thanks to Giuliani and Bloomberg.

The two ladies I see in NYC now aren't going to get taken off the market. They both charge a lot, have other jobs, are very independent, and have relationships with other girls. One said she sometimes books other female sex workers for sessions. Independents by nature, particularly if they have worked in the industry for a while, are unlikely to put too many eggs in one basket.

[Bfsie]

Wow, $25 grand is a lot. That is $300 K annually, for just one girl. Even if my net worth was $10 M, I would not be willing to part 3% of it annually for sex w / just one girl. Perhaps if I had $100 M I might, but that will not happen in this life for me, so there is that.

Yeah, I imagine the concept of sugarbabe must have existed for a long time whatever they were called. Mistress, doxy, concubine, live in lover, kept woman. As in everything else, internet democratized this, expanded supply and brought in more girls, and probably reduced the prices.

The most I have ever been asked is 10 grand for a month, and that happened only a few times. I quickly filtered such girls out. Obviously, I am not as rich (or profligate) as that rich dude who offered $25 K / month.

I was joking a little about her being his sugar baby because she moved in to this guy's house although she still kept her own apartment. Presumably this dude thought they were in an exclusive SD / SB relationship, which means she was only having sex with him. So the relationship is a little different from sugar baby we understand now. I would say he rented her.

In addition, she was a 19-year-old model in NY and, in my opinion, could easily beat any WG in FKK clubs I have seen in terms of look and figure. So I think that 20 K to 25 K a month is not overpriced in New York.

[Mr Ho]

Those who lives by beautiful young stunner prostitutes fucking die by them mongers! You got nothing to worry about when it comes to societal norms LOL!

[Sirioja]

EL: never believe any world coming out from the mouth of a prostitute, how many girls told me they will move to Dubai they found a rich guy, or I have a transport company it is my last month in the club, or I am dentist or I am student. All is bulshitt, 99% of the girls are still prostitutes 5 years latter only very few can quit and have a normal life, a lot of them have nothing when they are 35+, even they earned a lot of money but spent even more for the boyfriend, for useless things or made bad investment.

Unfortunately, when I would really like they make a good life with money they made being fucked, but when few most often lose their money in not working business in poor Romania, sometimes business being for pimp, if they were able to make good business, they would not work for years to be fucked. More safe for Elen to work at Sharks with Asians than in Dubai.

[Mr Ho]

I find the entry which in most cases is 75 and 90 in Artemis way too much for what I get for free in FKK club. Only very few visitors have 3 meals as you mentioned and many don't even try the food which in most cases is fast food level. The professional massage is 1 euro per minute so not free. What is left? Swim and have sauna and watch Bundesliga? Even the naked girls you get so used to them after 10 minutes. I don't even know why we pay entry, when we have to pay for the girls, the drinks etc. I would rather prefer a flat rate entrance with minimum time, in example fuck, drink and eat as much as you can in 4 hours. I would happily pay for that.

Since the owner of Artemis is Turkish guy, it is better for Artemis to stick to Turkish food only and kebab.

I do not go to FKK to eat, but it would be nicer if the food in FKK is nicer.

[Mr Ho]

You guys are always trying to compare the organized system of Germany (particularly the ultimate organized system of the FKKs) to an organized system in the United States, but that doesn't work.

The USA Has been on the attack against anything organized when it comes to commercial sex for a decade or two. So the USA System has become a disorganized system with prices all over the place that doesn't yield itself to comparisons. And for guys who like to hang out at a place, there is little or nothing in existence.

The legal Nevada brothels are an extraordinarily small part of the overall scene. Clinical and ridiculously overpriced and not reflective of the price per hour paid by most Johns in the USA For commercial sex.

Zoning laws and threats of zoning revocations for places known to provide sex in back rooms have destroyed strip clubs. And little changes in zoning like buffers between the customers and guys have made enforcement of violations easier. They are largely worthless now.

Well they better get more organized, so that they do not shoot people with guns with bullets, but they will shoot beautiful prostitute with their penis with sperm LOL! Second one is more fun and better way of living LOL!

[Mr Ho]

It has already been set up Mr. Ho and it's called the Chicken Ranch. Here's a link.

https://chickenranchbrothel.com/ladies/

OK, but I do not like the optics of chickens at their chicken ranch LOL!

FKK sure has stunner level girls by far comparison to rest of world. FKK changed my image on brothel.

[Nick3345]

https://www.6profis.de/private-model...lea-29917.html did someone spot LEA in last Time? Someone?

[Pessimist]

You guys are always trying to compare the organized system of Germany (particularly the ultimate organized system of the FKKs) to an organized system in the United States, but that doesn't work.

The USA Has been on the attack against anything organized when it comes to commercial sex for a decade or two. So the USA System has become a disorganized system with prices all over the place that doesn't yield itself to comparisons. And for guys who like to hang out at a place, there is little or nothing in existence.

The legal Nevada brothels are an extraordinarily small part of the overall scene. Clinical and ridiculously overpriced and not reflective of the price per hour paid by most Johns in the USA For commercial sex.

Zoning laws and threats of zoning revocations for places known to provide sex in back rooms have destroyed strip clubs. And little changes in zoning like buffers between the customers and guys have made enforcement of violations easier. They are largely worthless now.

Same with massage parlors. Many places require all kinds of professional licensing for a business to operate.

The federal government did so many asset seizures of escort agencies where ladies cross state lines that big multi-state escort agencies no longer exist..

You make many good points. People often use the moniker "sex prison" when it comes to USA and I have abused that phrase myself occasionally. But "tough to obtain organized sex" as you put it does not equate to "no paid sex is happening in USA". Far from it. One just has to be more diligent, proactive and patient. The thing is that for those staying patient and diligent, wonderful deals can fall in their lap occasionally and when they do. All the more satisfying but one has to search for them. They are not like picking a couple of egg rolls at a Chinese restaurant buffer.

You are also very right about NV brothels. I had been to the one near Reno (Moonlight Bunny ranch?) several years ago and also one near LV (think it was Pathrump? Forgetting the name). Having now been inside FKKs, I will never again set foot in any of these NV brothels. I do see these brothels bring slightly washed up porn stars at high prices as headline acts to attract customers. If you have a fantasy about any specific porn starlet NV brothels may be an easy way to meet, although I do see that you can meet many of them through escort sites or perhaps even writing to them directly. Occasionally some of these porn stars also make cameo appearances in sugar babe sites but my experience is that their quoted prices are always too high and not worth it unless you have a specific fantasy about them.

The good thing about sugar babe sites is that over time, you can accumulate several contacts in many cities including phone numbers, IG / Snap etc. If you meet any of them for a dinner and then a fuck session, there is nothing illegal and not a thing that LE can do about it. You both know each other, know what's on each one's mind, know all the details including prices and expected money. Such sessions feel quite natural and beyond the reach of any LE officer.

[ExpatLover]

EL: never believe any world coming out from the mouth of a prostitute, how many girls told me they will move to Dubai they found a rich guy, or I have a transport company it is my last month in the club, or I am dentist or I am student. All is bulshitt, 99% of the girls are still prostitutes 5 years latter only very few can quit and have a normal life, a lot of them have nothing when they are 35+, even they earned a lot of money but spent even more for the boyfriend, for useless things or made bad investment.