German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[The Cane]

Some clubs may stretch the law and somehow "overlook" hanky-panky in the club. If you want full on sex then Detroit is the only place with reliable FS in the clubs. I have gotten hand jobs and BJ in various clubs throughout the US. You will easily drop $400+ in a US club for some tittle feeling and grinding. Totally not worth it if you know FKK but it can be fun if you have money to burn and set low expectations going in.

I have heard a lot about the Detroit strip clubs from another member of this site who frequents Thailand a lot. I don't know how things are now, but for me the best American strip clubs for "hanky panky" I have ever been to were located in San Francisco. I'm talking hand jobs, BJs, kissing, and FS. And even some S&M! The best of those clubs, now closed, was the notorious Market Street Cinema. They would often feature a porn star, and I would say that roughly half the girls (some of them wanting to be porn stars themselves) were fucking, and the other half not. All you had to do was ask, and the girl would tell you whether she fucked or not. Looks ranged from 7 to 10, and around $150 would get you a suck and fuck. Occasionally a girl would offer bareback right off the top, no need to inquire.

My favorite was a blonde who went by "Rita Erotica". I would rate her at 8 looks wise. We would go to the back, and after some light kissing, she would squat in front of me and expertly suck a condom onto my dick. Then she would stand up and turn her cute butt around, and I would fuck her standing up from behind, saying all kinds of dirty things in her ear. One time the condom broke (neither of us knew), and I came inside of her! The Market Street Cinema was also the only strip club where I actually fucked a stripper in the ass on premises! It was another blonde (I like pretty blondes), and we had just finished having straight sex when she said that maybe the next time I could fuck her in the ass. I said to hell with next time, and that I'm fucking you in the ass now! And I did! Oh, those were the days!

Well, these escapades happened many moons ago, and I can hardly bring myself to go to an American strip club anymore. I've probably gone only a handful of times in the last two decades! It's just that it seems like such a waste of money now. Like you say, you can easily spend $400+ dollars in an evening at a top US strip club, and most aren't going to offer what you could get in the San Francisco clubs like the Market Street Cinema, or in the Detroit clubs I gather. But, when you don't know any better or maybe you just can't get overseas, maybe it's not so bad. All I know is that when it comes to the American strip clubs, "I can't go home again" LOL! At the clubs in other cities where FS was not available (overwhelming majority), my preference was to patronize clubs offering "bed dances".

For a bed dance, you go to a private room and lay on a bed, and the girl rubs and grinds all over you. My favorites would routinely let their panties go to the side fully exposing their tingly pussy lips and ass cracks. I would wear something with no underwear that was really thin so as not to irritate their skin from all of that rubbing, and that would allow for virtually bare contact. Only some thin material separating my dick from their pussies and butt cheeks. Rubbing and grinding and humping away we would go, with a session going for an hour. That's what I would pay for (about $90 plus a small tip if good), and my favorites always made me cum at the end! The best of the best was this super hot brunette who went by "Ginger". Man was she good, working it in all kinds of positions! I think both our favorite position was when she would lay back on top of me with her butt right in my crotch. It was like I was fucking her in the butt, and I would notice that her nipples would always go rock hard. This is how I would usually cum during my bed dances with Ginger too. With my dick dug deep up in between her exposed stripper girl ass cheeks. But where else for a budding anal connoisseur?

[Sirioja]

But the smarts of us then realize that there is something or someone at Wellcum that either has turned you down, or tried to scam you in one way or another. Because Wellcum really is a fantastic club with hands down the best food in an FKK ever. The best saunas (except Sharks saunamaster ritual), and the best views outside. Even the girls there right now seems to be of hood standard. Sure it has seen better days during the 5-6 years since the club opened, but there are girls in that lineup any man with a cock would fuck. Unless being told no. And I see how that can ruin a nights stay.

I always wrote best view from the garden, but I always told You, after about 15 visits since 2016, except for exceptional Lena. Ro on August 2017, I would not drive for Wellcum, fortunately 1 hour from Zoncolan, and no more Marina and Andiamo closed, so my restaurant to prepare, but I really regret Andiamo was not open because I found more interesting girls in 2016 and 3 in 2019. Maybe because I m not Italian, but real lack of natural beauties, of charm and elegance, with some girls telling: I don't kiss because of corona, but I can suck You good, meaning BBBJ for standard, or good massage, I don t care about massage, I don t pay for this. Fortunately, when I really didn't run to her when I saw her and quite average discovery, but Anna became charming after and even didn't think to repeat, but after turning around like a lion for about 12 hours on Saturday 15 August and couldn t find any attractive girl not trying to fuck me like Nika and her friend and anal fantasy, when she would have cried calling her mother, or another not kissing but sucking good even she was friendly, so no other choice than Anna who really improved even she was busy whole Saturday and tired, but when I told her we had to be fast because we went in room at 00.30 am, she answered: no rush, we can finish after closing at 1 am and we did. On Sunday, again big rain, so returned to eat diner, and same and again only improving again Anna who did worth for me for her lovely and charming behavior for me, under cold behavior when I looked at her on Thursday when she was not busy, many guys went to speak with her but not going to room. 3 visits and 1 in July, only Anna was doable, Karla was higher level in July but not there on my August visits. For my mind and dick, Wellcum fell to low level for casting and foods also fell a bit. My visiting experiences, but I know I m much more demanding than others, from my past real life. On this Summer, I was happy because found a charming well mannered beauty at Globe, unfortunately she became German WG at work, working geriatric with ugly grandfather for hours, so charm gone. Next one, even she was orgasmic in bed, and beauties are rare, but I want a beauty who will to make free for my behavior, only this profile interest me to pay for.

[Mr Ho]

To say that US strip clubs are a lame rip off if you know FKK is a huge understatement. The girls are not particularly better looking than Sharks girls. And in 90% of clubs not even as good looking as Sharks girls.

To correct and clarify a few things:

There are two types of clubs and this varies by state. You are correct that the fully nude clubs don't allow touching (rare exception is the Palamino in Vegas). But topless clubs virtually all allow tit squeezing and some girls may allow over the bikini pussy touching. I only know of one lame club in Boston that is strictly no touch.

Some clubs may stretch the law and somehow "overlook" hanky-panky in the club. If you want full on sex then Detroit is the only place with reliable FS in the clubs. I have gotten hand jobs and BJ in various clubs throughout the US.

My favorite club is Baby Dolls in Dallas. Lots of pretty girls. 5 simultaneous stages. Gotten both a HJ and a BJ there.

You will easily drop $400+ In a US club for some tittle feeling and grinding. Totally not worth it if you know FKK but it can be fun if you have money to burn and set low expectations going in.

What stops American entrepreneur to open maybe not the same, but similar set up as FKK in USA? Legal restriction? But I thought in Nevada and some states, prostitution is legal, so something similar to FKK set up can be done if some entrepreneur is brave as Larryflynt.

[Clodius1]

Married. Working from home. Too much hassle. Like our good friend Clodius says, waiting for the glorious day to be sitting at the departure gate to Frankfurt.

Sounds like we are cut from a similar cloth. Yes, the 80/20 rule is narrowing to 90/10. Social media provides women with endless free validation and fuels their six 6's fantasy. Online competition is too fierce, much better to focus on street game for civi's. At least until this virus fiasco. Now I focus on my path to excellence, gather more bank, improve my Deutsch, and ready to pounce post-vaccine. Be well mein bruder.

[Lucky Nuts]

To say that US strip clubs are a lame rip off if you know FKK is a huge understatement. The girls are not particularly better looking than Sharks girls. And in 90% of clubs not even as good looking as Sharks girls.

To correct and clarify a few things:

There are two types of clubs and this varies by state. You are correct that the fully nude clubs don't allow touching (rare exception is the Palamino in Vegas). But topless clubs virtually all allow tit squeezing and some girls may allow over the bikini pussy touching. I only know of one lame club in Boston that is strictly no touch.

Some clubs may stretch the law and somehow "overlook" hanky-panky in the club. If you want full on sex then Detroit is the only place with reliable FS in the clubs. I have gotten hand jobs and BJ in various clubs throughout the US.

My favorite club is Baby Dolls in Dallas. Lots of pretty girls. 5 simultaneous stages. Gotten both a HJ and a BJ there.

You will easily drop $400+ In a US club for some tittle feeling and grinding. Totally not worth it if you know FKK but it can be fun if you have money to burn and set low expectations going in.

Steve you're inbox is full BTW.

Good overview of the club scene. I knew Palamino was grandfathered to sell alcohol with nude dancers but didn't know about touching rules being different. I would add that if you hit a top strip club like Rhino in Vegas at prime time (late night weekends) only the hottest girls are allowed working until the 3 AM shift of thicker girls start arriving (the clubs are open 24 hours/day). The hottest girls are a younger age group and MUCH hotter overall than the Sharks and Oase lineups and are called "9 o'clock girls" because they are allowed to work that best shift (IMO and depending on your taste of course).

[ThienHoangb4]

I've never been to a USA stripclub but am a veteran of the German and Swiss FKK scene. How do the girls in the top strip clubs compare in terms of looks with the girls in FKK clubs like Globe, Oase, Palace, Sharks, etc. ? I know in most stripclubs its look and not touch only but I am just asking about the level of looks. Which are the strip clubs with the most beautiful (9/10's) girls?

Though I heard if you tip enough in stripclubs and are a regular big spender you might be able to take girls out too?

I am from Seattle, Washington State and I have been to 5-6 strip clubs regularly (before I know about FKK). Girls varies in terms of looks and services. Some very good looking young girls are there but they do not usually stay for the long term since they want some quick money and then quit the job. The ones who work there for a long term are usually in their 30-40's. The clubs at downtown area (Deja vu, dreamgirls) have some very good looking girls. Prices also vary from girls to girls even within the same club. Back in 2012-2013, it is $20 a lap dance with some touching (usually butts) but now it is $30-50 for a lap dance with touching. Some girls offer something like $100/3 dances with touching and handjob. The VIP session is where the fun happens. I had sex 2 times in the VIP room (one was $300/ half hour, one was $200/15 minutes). I took two stripper home (after seeing them 4-5 times in the strip club) and it was much better: no rush and you feel comfortable since nobody is watching you. $200/ hour for one girl and $300 an hour for the other girl.

[Steve 9696]

I've never been to a USA stripclub but am a veteran of the German and Swiss FKK scene. How do the girls in the top strip clubs compare in terms of looks with the girls in FKK clubs like Globe, Oase, Palace, Sharks, etc. ? I know in most stripclubs its look and not touch only but I am just asking about the level of looks. Which are the strip clubs with the most beautiful (9/10's) girls?

Though I heard if you tip enough in stripclubs and are a regular big spender you might be able to take girls out too?

To say that US strip clubs are a lame rip off if you know FKK is a huge understatement. The girls are not particularly better looking than Sharks girls. And in 90% of clubs not even as good looking as Sharks girls.

To correct and clarify a few things:

There are two types of clubs and this varies by state. You are correct that the fully nude clubs don't allow touching (rare exception is the Palamino in Vegas). But topless clubs virtually all allow tit squeezing and some girls may allow over the bikini pussy touching. I only know of one lame club in Boston that is strictly no touch.

Some clubs may stretch the law and somehow "overlook" hanky-panky in the club. If you want full on sex then Detroit is the only place with reliable FS in the clubs. I have gotten hand jobs and BJ in various clubs throughout the US.

My favorite club is Baby Dolls in Dallas. Lots of pretty girls. 5 simultaneous stages. Gotten both a HJ and a BJ there.

You will easily drop $400+ In a US club for some tittle feeling and grinding. Totally not worth it if you know FKK but it can be fun if you have money to burn and set low expectations going in.

[Mursenary]

I've never been to a USA stripclub but am a veteran of the German and Swiss FKK scene. How do the girls in the top strip clubs compare in terms of looks with the girls in FKK clubs like Globe, Oase, Palace, Sharks, etc. ? I know in most stripclubs its look and not touch only but I am just asking about the level of looks. Which are the strip clubs with the most beautiful (9/10's) girls?

Though I heard if you tip enough in stripclubs and are a regular big spender you might be able to take girls out too?

In my opinion, visually, the highest tier strip clubs in the US are on par with the highest tier FKK line ups. That however will vary from city to city. In Las Vegas, the mecca of strip club cities, girls at Spearmint Rhino were on average hotter than the average Sharks girl. There were definitely more stunners too. As for sex? I think you'll get denied more often than not but I'm sure there's a tipping point for the right price. I think looking for paid sex in strip clubs is financially wasteful but not impossible, it definitely happens. However, top tier girls would entertain the idea if the number quoted started at a thousand USD while 500 USD might get you in the door for negotiations. Of course it varies with geography and club clientelle. 200 USD is possible for some mid tier girls in trashy clubs.

My thoughts is that if sex is your primary mission, strip clubs are highly inefficient, both for time and money invested. Instead, I have been going on a weekly basis, approaching the clubs like a neighborhood bar while just socializing, drinking, and being a little liberal with spending money on dances (Girls are there to work and make money after all). That being said, having built up repoire, I've hung out with one girl outside of the club recently, no sex, while my strip club buddy has paid for sex with 2 mid level girls, $300 each. But that took him a few visits chatting up the girls and bargaining them down. Factoring in all of the bar tabs, paying for $10 dances, and tipping hundreds of $1 bills on stage, he probably spend $2 K-$3 K in strip clubs in one month and getting sex twice. Bad economics for mongering if you don't value the social time spent in a strip club drinking with friends and naked girls.

[Sebastiane]

I've never been to a USA stripclub but am a veteran of the German and Swiss FKK scene. How do the girls in the top strip clubs compare in terms of looks with the girls in FKK clubs like Globe, Oase, Palace, Sharks, etc. ? I know in most stripclubs its look and not touch only but I am just asking about the level of looks. Which are the strip clubs with the most beautiful (9/10's) girls?

Though I heard if you tip enough in stripclubs and are a regular big spender you might be able to take girls out too?

[Pistons]

Paradise Sarrebrucken planned to open during August, but not allowed yet. If they had allowance, they would be open. NRW is not in good situation about virus. I wait if Artemis will really open in 2 days or even later. But You have Austria, even Wellcum don t worth to pay a trip, but maybe GT and Vienna always worth. 2 very attractive escorts in Paris for me, when I will be back from my mountains on mid week.

But the smarts of us then realize that there is something or someone at Wellcum that either has turned you down, or tried to scam you in one way or another. Because Wellcum really is a fantastic club with hands down the best food in an FKK ever. The best saunas (except Sharks saunamaster ritual), and the best views outside. Even the girls there right now seems to be of hood standard. Sure it has seen better days during the 5-6 years since the club opened, but there are girls in that lineup any man with a cock would fuck. Unless being told no. And I see how that can ruin a nights stay.

[Mursenary]

Mursenary,

What part of country is that?

As for guys is their 20's being happy, not so sure about that. Although I am sure they are having much less sex than generations before.

Buddy in 20's that I have is telling me it used to be 80/20, 20 percent of the guys getting all the girls, now its 95/5. I totally agree with it.

That was in Tampa FL. I'd imagine that the rates elsewhere outside of northeastern and west coast USA to be similar.

I just meant that girls in their 20's seem to be more willing to jump into bed than they did 10-15 years ago. That is obviously a very subjective statement though. You might be right with the dwindling ratios though, but again, I notice that on average, young guys in the US seem to be less sexually aggressive than my generation.

[Sirioja]

Do you know why Paradise is still closed?

Paradise Sarrebrucken planned to open during August, but not allowed yet. If they had allowance, they would be open. NRW is not in good situation about virus. I wait if Artemis will really open in 2 days or even later. But You have Austria, even Wellcum don t worth to pay a trip, but maybe GT and Vienna always worth. 2 very attractive escorts in Paris for me, when I will be back from my mountains on mid week.

[Pistons]

Like for any brothel in Germany, when Finca and Hells couldn t open and let s see for Artemis, when Germany will allow. Some privates are open in Saarland but not Paradise Saarbrucken, for sex with mask. Really high level, just to empty balls, but maybe less difficult to find a attractive one, because sexy bodies are more numerous than pretty faces.

Do you know why Paradise is still closed?

[ExpatLover]

EL: it is exactly what I am saying for a long time, the US scene is not that bad, possible to meet sexy girls (happened to me) and not more expensive than travelling to Europe, paying all the different expenses, loosing a lot of time. And on top of that I am sure that the girls in the US are so much over fucked like the girls in the German FKK.

[Smoke Light]

I believe Sauna Clubs as we know the will remIn closed, but will somewhat return to their roots. I have been inside an early club. It was a house of a well to do local, had a bar built in and they had a few women that worked. There were human fluffy swings, a beer fridge, a hot grill and some rooms and bandage materials. This guy had parties, his friends and friends of friends stopped by. That is how a lot of Germans will address this. It sucks for the non local or tourist because they won't be allowed in. It brings back memories of the now defunct flat rate clubs. Then again, if you a running illegally you may as well use a well known model.

Greetings Chongmal. I haven't visited flat rate clubs, but what you write reminds me of good old days at Bernds. What a wonderful place on earth it was 5-7 years ago.