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  1. #16345
    Quote Originally Posted by Downandup  [View Original Post]
    Bfsie,

    Thanks for adding some real data.

    I continue to posit that FKK's and similar venues will open on August 31.

    The reasons for this are that the Federal lockdown ends August 30 - https://www.bundesregierung.de/breg-...nahmen-1734724 after which large events are allowed and social distancing can end. Nothing is said specifically in regards to sex venues of any kind.

    Next, neither North Rhine-Westphalia (https://www.land.nrw/de/wichtige-fra...m-corona-virus) nor Hessen (https://wirtschaft.hessen.de/wirtsch...aubt-was-nicht) have any guidance at this time that contradicts or modifies the Federal plan. Their guidance does include sex venues and does not mention any future plans.

    I'm also watching http://prostitution2017.de/schutzgesetz/ to see if there might be other changes.
    Spain says La Liga can reopen from June. Things are looking up.

  2. #16344
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    I have been saying here for many weeks that clubs will not open this year.

    Recent FKK girls are doing in calls for 100 an hour? Are they requiring several hours of booking? One hour in call for 100 E with some of the top shelf FKK girls is a good price.

    150 an hour is clearly higher than normal FKK pricing. If you are paying that much willingly, why do you blame tourists for screwing up the prices? BTW, if you check out the sugar babe thread here on ISG, you will see that $200 per session is fairly common price for sugar babes and that is for more than an hour and in USA at that.
    No way FKK girls are doing incalls for EUR100. At the best of times they were charging EUR150 minimum. Now with no clubs I would be surprised if any go as low as EUR150. Do you know anyone who has paid 100?

  3. #16343
    Bfsie,

    Thanks for adding some real data.

    I continue to posit that FKK's and similar venues will open on August 31.

    The reasons for this are that the Federal lockdown ends August 30 - https://www.bundesregierung.de/breg-...nahmen-1734724 after which large events are allowed and social distancing can end. Nothing is said specifically in regards to sex venues of any kind.

    Next, neither North Rhine-Westphalia (https://www.land.nrw/de/wichtige-fra...m-corona-virus) nor Hessen (https://wirtschaft.hessen.de/wirtsch...aubt-was-nicht) have any guidance at this time that contradicts or modifies the Federal plan. Their guidance does include sex venues and does not mention any future plans.

    I'm also watching http://prostitution2017.de/schutzgesetz/ to see if there might be other changes.

  4. #16342
    I love Germany.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bfsie  [View Original Post]
    Here are some updates of P6 situation in Germany.

    1. Escort service is allowed in NRW based on interpretation of the newest government measures by some posters on a German forum.

    2. A court in NRW ruled that Tantra (erotic) massage parlor is not prostitution establishment, so it is allowed to reopen in NRW.

    https://www.bild.de/news/inland/news...7992.bild.html


    3. First lawsuit from the brothels of Frankfurt redlight district against Hessen state. A part of the article in the following link is as follows:

    "Nothing has gone into brothels for 70 days! The whole of Hesse is loosening up, only politicians remain hard on prostitution. A good 20 brothel operators from the Bahnhofsviertel are now suing for reopening. . With a hygiene concept.

  5. #16341
    Quote Originally Posted by Bfsie  [View Original Post]
    Here are some updates of P6 situation in Germany.

    1. Escort service is allowed in NRW based on interpretation of the newest government measures by some posters on a German forum.

    2. A court in NRW ruled that Tantra (erotic) massage parlor is not prostitution establishment, so it is allowed to reopen in NRW.

    https://www.bild.de/news/inland/news...7992.bild.html


    3. First lawsuit from the brothels of Frankfurt redlight district against Hessen state. A part of the article in the following link is as follows:

    "Nothing has gone into brothels for 70 days! The whole of Hesse is loosening up, only politicians remain hard on prostitution. A good 20 brothel operators from the Bahnhofsviertel are now suing for reopening. . With a hygiene concept.
    What is sex with no kissing, no pleasure, no need just to empty balls. You can have no temperature, no symptom and infect a girl who will kill many old or fat, or guys returning home to wife and children, or old mother, with killer gift. In brothels, this is just impossible to avoid spreading, just have to accept to play new Chinese roulette, or more safe to stay and take care of wife, women like pleasure.

  6. #16340
    Quote Originally Posted by Bfsie  [View Original Post]
    Here are some updates of P6 situation in Germany.

    1. Escort service is allowed in NRW based on interpretation of the newest government measures by some posters on a German forum.

    2. A court in NRW ruled that Tantra (erotic) massage parlor is not prostitution establishment, so it is allowed to reopen in NRW.

    https://www.bild.de/news/inland/news...7992.bild.html


    3. First lawsuit from the brothels of Frankfurt redlight district against Hessen state. A part of the article in the following link is as follows:

    "Nothing has gone into brothels for 70 days! The whole of Hesse is loosening up, only politicians remain hard on prostitution. A good 20 brothel operators from the Bahnhofsviertel are now suing for reopening. . With a hygiene concept.
    Thank you for the update in Germany.

    A rare post on here which was informative and concise without the usual bluster.

    Although living in the UK I often travel to Germany & while I've used the Frankfurt brothels I primarily use FKK's, however decent posts on updates in Germany like this one are most welcome.

    Thanks.

  7. #16339
    Here are some updates of P6 situation in Germany.

    1. Escort service is allowed in NRW based on interpretation of the newest government measures by some posters on a German forum.

    2. A court in NRW ruled that Tantra (erotic) massage parlor is not prostitution establishment, so it is allowed to reopen in NRW.

    https://www.bild.de/news/inland/news...7992.bild.html


    3. First lawsuit from the brothels of Frankfurt redlight district against Hessen state. A part of the article in the following link is as follows:

    "Nothing has gone into brothels for 70 days! The whole of Hesse is loosening up, only politicians remain hard on prostitution. A good 20 brothel operators from the Bahnhofsviertel are now suing for reopening. . With a hygiene concept.

    Maletzki: "Admission control with fever measurements, women have to measure fever every day. If you have over 37 degrees, you have to go. In addition, disinfection lock, mask requirement throughout the house, also in the room. No kissing, no blowjobs, just one person in the room, no gang bang. ".

    The lawsuit was filed on Thursday and will reach the authorities in charge tomorrow. ".

    https://m.bild.de/bild-plus/regional...fnung-70793938


    4. Here is the proposal from the professional association of german prostitutes (BesD) and also serves as the guideline for prostitutes if brothels are allowed to reopen:

    https://www.t-online.de/gesundheit/k...nekonzept.html

  8. #16338

    Argentina and Lebanon.

    Argentina defaulted for 9th times. As not intelligent nation as they are, we mongers maybe lucky to get some of Argentinian beauties in German FKK. I had girl named Chloe claimed to be Venezuelan, but originally from Argentinian by management at Palace, she was real stunner who does all in room and only girl I was satisfied even though I did pay 200 euro per hour session, but how she licked and put her tongue in my anal and how she does anything in room was deep, passionate, kinky and not just dirty, but filthy sex by such a stunner level beautiful girl. A lot of spitting and wow she still mesmerize me. I hope she is OK in Argentina and I feel bad that her country Argentinian men are so stupid to default for 9th time! How stupid can they be to default 9 times LOL!

    It is like Argentinian male culture to be stupid enough for default 9 times LOL! I hope this forum staffs are OK because administrators are Argentinian.

    Lebanon too defaulted, I have not really met Lebanese girl in FKK, but I hope they will somehow land in German FKK like Chloe from Argentina which is further away did manage to come to German FKK.

    Default for 9th time. How stupid Argentinian males can be LOL!

  9. #16337
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuni042  [View Original Post]
    Those politicians are calling for the "swedish" model, where the buyers of sex services will be prosecuted. What's noteable is, that sweden has one of the highest rape rates in the world - 5 times higher than Germany.

    Why would this be, if not for the reason of its harsh banning of prostitution.
    It could be that Sweden has a different definition of rape. In Sweden a rape is like where the woman wakes up in the morning and decides that she didn't much fancy the sex with her boyfriend last night. Remember the case of Julian Assange.

    But I agree with your overall argument. FKKs are necessary to keep crazy people off the streets. Like me for instance. With the current drought of sex I got desperate and started going round to shops and cafes and chatting up the girls. Anybody else try that? I haven't done that for like ten years or something. And of course the girls are rolling their eyes and thinking, "Why can't this horny guy go back to the FKKs."

    So you see, the FKK system works for everybody.

  10. #16336
    Those politicians are calling for the "Swedish" model, where the buyers of sex services will be prosecuted. What's noteable is, that Sweden has one of the highest rape rates in the world - 5 times higher than Germany.

    Why would this be, if not for the reason of its harsh banning of prostitution.

    Germany had in 2019 about 9500 rapes going on. Nationwide. Sweden hat in 2015 twice as many: 18000 - for a country that has 8 times smaller population.

    If Germany would eventually catch up with the rape rate of Sweden, then this would be an equivalent of 144000 rapes - 134000 more. Every year!?

    That is a very very high price to pay for the German women.

    There are more good arguments why prostitution can work in Germany: but it includes wearing surgical masks: see here a good article:

  11. #16335
    Quote Originally Posted by RogueNation  [View Original Post]
    Clubs will be the last P6 places to open. Social distancing is impossible, a situation with 100-200 people in a closed room will not happen in 2020. Good to have a dozen girl on hand to meet in their apartments or hotels. Even though some girls quote 700 EUR /2 h there's plenty of good looking and performing former club girls offering service for 100 or 150 for an hour outcall or incall. No more tourists ruining prices. No urge to open any of the clubs in the near future.
    I have been saying here for many weeks that clubs will not open this year.

    Recent FKK girls are doing in calls for 100 an hour? Are they requiring several hours of booking? One hour in call for 100 E with some of the top shelf FKK girls is a good price.

    150 an hour is clearly higher than normal FKK pricing. If you are paying that much willingly, why do you blame tourists for screwing up the prices? BTW, if you check out the sugar babe thread here on ISG, you will see that $200 per session is fairly common price for sugar babes and that is for more than an hour and in USA at that.

  12. #16334
    Those politicians are calling for the "swedish" model, where the buyers of sex services will be prosecuted. What's noteable is, that sweden has one of the highest rape rates in the world - 5 times higher than Germany.

    Why would this be, if not for the reason of its harsh banning of prostitution.

    Germany had in 2019 about 9500 rapes going on. Nationwide. Sweden hat in 2015 twice as many: 18000 - for a country that has 8 times smaller population.

    If Germany would eventually catch up with the rape rate of sweden, then this would be an equivalent of 144000 rapes - 134000 more. Every year!?

    That is a very very high price to pay for the german women.

    There are more good arguments why prostitution can work in Germany: but it includes wearing surgical masks: see here a good article: https://www.watson.de/leben/intervie...mit-uns-gehabt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuni042  [View Original Post]
    Politicians hate talking about brothels. That was the reason, why I said last year, that the chances of sex business shutdown (forever) was very unlikely.

    But now things may be more probably. If this team of politicians around SPD-politician Lauterbach keeps pushing hard, they may have a chance. Because now the discussion has an intriguing offer: let's just once talk about sex business. Instead of twice. Or 5-times.

    Because the repetitive considering, whether prostitution is ok now or then, will not be liked by politician.

  13. #16333
    Clubs will be the last P6 places to open. Social distancing is impossible, a situation with 100-200 people in a closed room will not happen in 2020. Good to have a dozen girl on hand to meet in their apartments or hotels. Even though some girls quote 700 EUR /2 h there's plenty of good looking and performing former club girls offering service for 100 or 150 for an hour outcall or incall. No more tourists ruining prices. No urge to open any of the clubs in the near future.

  14. #16332

    Corona killing FKK and brothel business in Germany

    Politicians hate talking about brothels. That was the reason, why I said last year, that the chances of sex business shutdown (forever) was very unlikely.

    But now things may be more probably. If this team of politicians around SPD-politician Lauterbach keeps pushing hard, they may have a chance. Because now the discussion has an intriguing offer: let's just once talk about sex business. Instead of twice. Or 5-times.

    Because the repetitive considering, whether prostitution is ok now or then, will not be liked by politician.

    Quote Originally Posted by DFWdude  [View Original Post]
    Well looks like the end of the hobby may be upon us in Germnay.

    https://www.dw.com/en/german-lawmake...g8jAiamUNwtn9s

  15. #16331
    Quote Originally Posted by Clodius1  [View Original Post]
    What's the most valuable thing a woman can give you? It's not her pee-sleeve. She gives that away for free to Chad and tyrone. Nope, it's her youth. If a 9 or 10 is willing to give you her 20's when her SMV is highest, take it and wife that up. Have your kids and just expect that she's going to jump back on the cock carousel later on. That's just fine- you've got your kids and you've got FKK. Winning!
    For me, when she says to her friends, her parents, she is happy now, she feels woman, then real pride, real success, when brothels are a game, but also kind of failure and wasting money like in casino. Only worth to buy dreams for me, no dream just emptying balls or having my ass washed; only woman reactions motivate me. Even jealousy or anger can be interesting.

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