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[ShooBree]

There's going to be a cascade of Ice Bears clamoring to get to FKK after this mess is over. Seriously, USA is in big trouble, probably much worse than EU because we have a lack of social cohesion here. Identity politics making it tough to stop the virus. Stories on CNN about blacks afraid to wear face masks due to history of racial profiling by police. Some blacks also think they have genetic immunity from the virus and that it's a white man's disease. Shocking story but like I said, it was a headline article on CNN.com yesterday. I hope we can all pull together and be a more united society when this plague is over.

When this is over we have the Great Depression 2 and World War 3 to look forward to.

https://www.wwno.org/post/black-comm...-and-elsewhere

[ShooBree]

This is actually tricky, if you add the numbers for Denmark and Norwary, the total number of deaths is 291. What we have everywhere in actuality is controlled herd immunity. The point is not that Sweden is right, the point is to stragger it so that the death toll is not that high.

The modelling is not completely accurate everywhere, but the difference between staggering the onset of herd immunity with the reduced death toll and the economic cost is an issue. The question is how much is a life worth. Some people would say nothing and others something else.

We know one thing, the actual number of infected is far higher everywhere than the numbers suggest. However these lockdown policies reduce the death toll amongst the most vulnerable until herd immunity takes hold.

There is an economic cost for sure, but the death toll in Sweden has been twice as high as Denmark and Noway combined, where herd immunity will take hold more slowly, but it will take hold.

I lived in Sweden for years in the past, and I know how Swedes and especially how the decision making process in Sweden works. Given my experiences I would not say that this is a rational or well planned strategy but rather the default option.

In my opinon, Germany and Austria have handled this far better than anywhere else, the lockdown in Switzerland is relatively lax, not as lax as Sweden, but quite lax by European standards and the death toll will be correspondingly higher.

Funny that you would compare the death toll in Sweden to Denmark and Norway instead of Belgium and Switzerland. Sweden has done a good work compared to the other countries so far, but this is a marathon, not a sprint. Also it isn't only about the number of deaths, but also the economy and quality of life for the 99.99% who live survive this. Anyways, right now I wouldn't want to be in any other country but Sweden. Let's see what life looks like in the different countries when this is all over.

[The Cane]

I love the concept of FKKs and have been a regular monger for 15 years now and it's my secret which only my very closest friends know about in real life (of course, all my ISG friends do!) but I have gotten to thinking that in this age of LGBTQQ+ that we now live in (especially in the West) why some businessman has not thought of opening a similar club like an FKK but for women or bi or gay guys? Or maybe such places exist and I don't know about them because you have to be lgbt or something to know about them? I would have thought a city with a night scene like Berlin which has many gay clubs would have something like this or San Francisco.

There have been a couple of Termas (similar to FKKs) in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil that I have heard about over the years that catered to gays, but I don't know how successful they have been. In fact, as far as I am aware, they both eventually closed down. One, Termas Aeroporto, used to be a "straight" place before closing down and opening back up for gays. As far as I know, it is now closed.

[Arnold15]

This is actually tricky, if you add the numbers for Denmark and Norwary, the total number of deaths is 291. What we have everywhere in actuality is controlled herd immunity. The point is not that Sweden is right, the point is to stragger it so that the death toll is not that high.

The modelling is not completely accurate everywhere, but the difference between staggering the onset of herd immunity with the reduced death toll and the economic cost is an issue. The question is how much is a life worth. Some people would say nothing and others something else.

We know one thing, the actual number of infected is far higher everywhere than the numbers suggest. However these lockdown policies reduce the death toll amongst the most vulnerable until herd immunity takes hold.

There is an economic cost for sure, but the death toll in Sweden has been twice as high as Denmark and Noway combined, where herd immunity will take hold more slowly, but it will take hold.

I lived in Sweden for years in the past, and I know how Swedes and especially how the decision making process in Sweden works. Given my experiences I would not say that this is a rational or well planned strategy but rather the default option.

In my opinon, Germany and Austria have handled this far better than anywhere else, the lockdown in Switzerland is relatively lax, not as lax as Sweden, but quite lax by European standards and the death toll will be correspondingly higher.

Denmark and Norway will both be very vulnerable when they open up again and when the second wave of Covid-19 comes. At the moment, a very low share of their populations is immune due to total lockdown.

[Kamsutra69]

Yes, paying for sex is in fact illegal in France since 2016.

But paying for someone for her or his company to a dinner or an evening is not. And that the area escort agencies operate in. Because what happens between the two after the event is a "personal choice". Therefore it is very difficult to enforce the law. That's the tactic used by escorts agencies where prostitution is illegal.

I am just curious as to why you say this. France has the Swedish model so that buyers and not sellers are prosecuted and fined a considerable amount. So it is defacto illegal. I know you are able to get escorts in France and Paris as you point out. However if the police catch you, you can be fined a considerable amount, right?

Are you saying it is not illegal, because the Police never enforce these policies or that they never check the online escort agencies? Or do they, then it is in fact illegal, at least in the sense of having legal repercussions for buyers.

[Delta Indigo]

Prostitution is not illegal in France.

I am just curious as to why you say this. France has the Swedish model so that buyers and not sellers are prosecuted and fined a considerable amount. So it is defacto illegal. I know you are able to get escorts in France and Paris as you point out. However if the police catch you, you can be fined a considerable amount, right?

Are you saying it is not illegal, because the Police never enforce these policies or that they never check the online escort agencies? Or do they, then it is in fact illegal, at least in the sense of having legal repercussions for buyers.

[Delta Indigo]

Yes "only" comared to hwo many are infected.

Swedish authorities have made several random samples of the number of infected.

We put the risk groups in quarantine.

Germany has closed down everything and put the whole population in quarantine.

Therefore, a considerable lower share of population is infected.

This is actually tricky, if you add the numbers for Denmark and Norwary, the total number of deaths is 291. What we have everywhere in actuality is controlled herd immunity. The point is not that Sweden is right, the point is to stragger it so that the death toll is not that high.

The modelling is not completely accurate everywhere, but the difference between staggering the onset of herd immunity with the reduced death toll and the economic cost is an issue. The question is how much is a life worth. Some people would say nothing and others something else.

We know one thing, the actual number of infected is far higher everywhere than the numbers suggest. However these lockdown policies reduce the death toll amongst the most vulnerable until herd immunity takes hold.

There is an economic cost for sure, but the death toll in Sweden has been twice as high as Denmark and Noway combined, where herd immunity will take hold more slowly, but it will take hold.

I lived in Sweden for years in the past, and I know how Swedes and especially how the decision making process in Sweden works. Given my experiences I would not say that this is a rational or well planned strategy but rather the default option.

In my opinon, Germany and Austria have handled this far better than anywhere else, the lockdown in Switzerland is relatively lax, not as lax as Sweden, but quite lax by European standards and the death toll will be correspondingly higher.

[Clodius1]

There's going to be a cascade of Ice Bears clamoring to get to FKK after this mess is over. Seriously, USA is in big trouble, probably much worse than EU because we have a lack of social cohesion here. Identity politics making it tough to stop the virus. Stories on CNN about blacks afraid to wear face masks due to history of racial profiling by police. Some blacks also think they have genetic immunity from the virus and that it's a white man's disease. Shocking story but like I said, it was a headline article on CNN.com yesterday. I hope we can all pull together and be a more united society when this plague is over.

[Mr Ho]

Restaurants and shops open.

But some of them have closed voluntarily due to lack of customers.

Also schools and Kindergarten are open.

But not universities and secondary schools.

Now the estimates say that around 1,5 million in Sweden have been infected by Corona since January, so 15 % of population (10 million) are immune.
Estimates are based on random samples of the population that have been tested.

And only 590 dead.

Authorities expect that 50 % are infected mid-May, reaching herd immunity as maybe the first country in the world.

This can be called homeopathy or using your own citizen as a test sample to show to the world if such BDSM style method to tackle corona virus would work? LOL!

I tried with my anal rimming vaccines to FKK girls, if they do not get corona virus, their immune system is trained and strengthen by my anal virus LOL!

[Arnold15]

Those are very questionable numbers that you bring to the table.

A) "only 590 dead" - compared to Germany you have to multiply everything by 8 - so in Germany we have 1800 dead. And Sweden (scaled up by 8 - since there are only 10 mill swedes) - that is almost 5000 - so essentially 3 x more dead.

B) if sweden had 1. 5 million infections. That the swedish mortality would be extremely low. E. g. 0,04 percent. 20 x lower than elsewhere.

Yes "only" comared to hwo many are infected.

Swedish authorities have made several random samples of the number of infected.

We put the risk groups in quarantine.

Germany has closed down everything and put the whole population in quarantine.

Therefore, a considerable lower share of population is infected.

[Kuni042]

Those are very questionable numbers that you bring to the table.

A) "only 590 dead" - compared to Germany you have to multiply everything by 8 - so in Germany we have 1800 dead. And Sweden (scaled up by 8 - since there are only 10 mill swedes) - that is almost 5000 - so essentially 3 x more dead.

B) if Sweden had 1.5 million infections. That the Swedish mortality would be extremely low. E. g. 0,04 percent. 20 x lower than elsewhere.

Now the estimates say that around 1,5 million in Sweden have been infected by Corona since January, so 15 % of population (10 million) are immune.
Estimates are based on random samples of the population that have been tested.

And only 590 dead.

Authorities expect that 50 % are infected mid-May, reaching herd immunity as maybe the first country in the world.

[Arnold15]

Are restaurants open in Sweden?

Wow! Fantastic!

Restaurants and shops open.

But some of them have closed voluntarily due to lack of customers.

Also schools and Kindergarten are open.

But not universities and secondary schools.

Now the estimates say that around 1,5 million in Sweden have been infected by Corona since January, so 15 % of population (10 million) are immune.
Estimates are based on random samples of the population that have been tested.

And only 590 dead.

Authorities expect that 50 % are infected mid-May, reaching herd immunity as maybe the first country in the world.

[Wild Man]

Germany appears to be on the way to end its lockdown but gradually.

I'm open to correction but they are now following the Czech example on the wearing of masks.

The German Mortality rates have been relatively low, but that may be down to farting around with stats and declaring Covid 19 deaths as being attributed to underlying conditions instead.

The important thing for us and our hobby in the ending of the lockdown is that FKKs, brothels and massage parlours are still likely to be last or near last on the list to be allowed to reopen.

Also according to the link, they don't expect to be completely out of it until next year!

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/germanys-p...161718148.html

[The Cane]

Sad to see BoJo in ICU but you are quite right. I wonder what's up with Ted a Cruz, hasn't he tested positive and quarantined himself after liberally using senate gym and mixing with a bunch of other senators? Nice guy, that one. Yeah, I personally know a bunch of middle aged guys that have been infected so far, and at least 4 doctors who are either personal friends or spouses of friends that got infected. Doctors are obviously much more at risk, but a couple of others surprised me. Wouldn't have guessed they were at risk.

There is nothing hoax about this virus, and this chest pumping I see here that only those that have diabetes or fat or asthma etc at risk is laughable. One middle aged friend I know is built like ox and ran a marathon last year in 3 1/2 hours. He was totally down for 2 weeks and told me that he is still extremely fatigued although he has been recovering for 10 days now.

I think you may be referring to Senator Rand Paul. Interestingly, there have been virtually no reports about him since it became known that he tested positive. Here is his answer for why he did what he did: https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/2912183001.

And yeah, they have been profiling people on TV who have been dying over here. It's been shocking because some have been some strapping, healthy, young to middle aged people. It's true that most people who get sick with the virus recover. But, you don't want to be one of the poor souls who catch it who should likely recover, but then for whatever reason your body responds in a way that leaves you down for the final count.

[Mr Ho]

"Sex workers who had been fully employed suddenly feared homelessness".

I have an extra room by the way. If any hot FKK girl is reading this, send me a pm and I can drive and get you!

"This could be the first thing people cut back on."

It is actually right in the middle of the hierarchy of needs. Somebody educate this woman!

"the government pledged $55 billion to support 5 million independent workers including tens of thousands of sex workers".

I guess this wouldn't have happened if not for the new registration starting two years ago! Perhaps girls from now on will have a positive look on the registration instead of a negative, and it could help Germany aquire girls instead of countries without this. At least as long as the clubs actually send in those taxes.

"There are an estimated 40 to 42 million prostitutes worldwide, according to a 2012 Business Insider report".

This is fake news. Real numbers are probably in the billions. It is just a matter of definition. And Business Insider is even undercutting most of its own staff here. A recruitment guy at a lawyer firm I know for instance says they mainly hire the sexiest young girls. That is prostitution to me. And the same goes for other industries also. Real Estate sales managers for instance too..

And you seek to fuck these FKK girls who may stay at your extra room? Or you negotiate for 50 euro per 30 min? LOL!

They got pimps for occasion like this anyways, now is the time pimps are doing his work of I care for you kinda BS, so she later these girls will go back to FKK once it reopen to suck our dick and suck our 50 euro per 30 min LOL! But it is win win situation for us mongers and pimps, not so much for girls, but they don't realize that LOL!