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  1. #24085
    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperion2007  [View Original Post]
    Wellcum is literally more expensive than Sharks on every aspects: one hour full service is 160 minimum when Sharks it's 150. The entry price is much more expensive and the hotels choice much worse. I can't imagine how Wellcum can be considered "a better deal" than Sharks.

    For "better amenities" it's the same thing, Sharks is superior on almost everything (the food is better in Wellcum).

    "better optics" is in the eye of the beholder but I would agree with you: the average in Wellcum is better. Some girls in Sharks seems clearly out of place.

    "gorgeous scenery", my god YES!, for that alone Wellcum is better than all the other clubs that I know.
    Never heard of your quoted 160 per hour price at Welcum. 70 e per half hour last I know. Amenities better, as in sauna, spa, and pool are superior. Bar has much better drink prices. Food is superior. Hotel attached for convenience.

    Yes entry is higher by 20 euro.

  2. #24084
    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    At Welcum, I now get a better deal, better optics, same service, better amenities, and gorgeous scenery
    Wellcum is literally more expensive than Sharks on every aspects: one hour full service is 160€ minimum when Sharks it's 150. The entry price is much more expensive and the hotels choice much worse. I can't imagine how Wellcum can be considered "a better deal" than Sharks.

    For "better amenities" it's the same thing, Sharks is superior on almost everything (the food is better in Wellcum).

    "better optics" is in the eye of the beholder but I would agree with you: the average in Wellcum is better. Some girls in Sharks seems clearly out of place.

    "gorgeous scenery", my god YES!, for that alone Wellcum is better than all the other clubs that I know.

  3. #24083

    Hamburg's FKK, prices are insane

    Hi guys,

    I was in Hamburg las week end. I let you have a look on my reports.

  4. #24082

    Only 2 rooms on 4 visits at Wellcum and 1 at Andiamo

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    When I have so many followers for my tastes because they know I get most of prettiest in clubs I visit, I prefer to pay 200/60 at Sharks or Freubad for wow looks full GFE, my quality standard, rather than 140/60 for low level suck and fuck sex at Wellcum where I feel so much how girls are not used to my way compare to their usual Italian business. I didn't feel so much at GT Vienna even was not a regular. I let you enjoy Wellcum, only restaurant for me, same than Globe, when both close to my sporty spots. 4 visits at Wellcum, only 1 100/40 with FK room with full natural Sveta but no wow to repeat even she was very honest, arithmetic talk when 4 hours with beautiful 20 yo frenchie on only 2 week ends, for high quality for me.
    When I usually have very strong memory, but maybe my brain preferred to forget so disappointing room I had with more elegant than average at Wellcum, Katia, even French kissing like Sveta, but too professional used to fuck Italians, not interesting, you are not good for sex I told her. She wanted 150 for 1 hour, so I taught her arithmetic for twice 70 = only 140 and she doesn't worth more. Sveta was better, even not on usual German level, At least, no silicon, nor tattoos for both French kissing, but not enough for GFE nor quality.

  5. #24081
    Quote Originally Posted by Shark16  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the intel. Very useful.

    Needless to say I find Sirioja's analysis of Wellcum very shallow. And I am no Wellcum supporter at all. I still spend most of my time at Oase / Sharks, but I found Wellcum to be a genuine contester. And Wellcum grows on me the more Hessen reports of 200 E /60 sessions and girls with low performance I read. This is vital info for any international traveller.

    If BlueMoon is genuine, has no time restraints, an excellent bank account, no interest in budget clubs, and really want good advice on the "high end" FKK clubs of Europe, then all those three clubs would be included in my recommendation based on personal experience. Maybe GT Vienna too (if he can handle the rip-off attempts). He probably should add Switzerland (Globe and Freubad?) and Spain (the clubs of Madrid and Costa del Sol) to the list of places to visit.

    And regarding "high end" clubs; I bet Massimo Potente in the Austrian threads of this forum will be laughing his ass off if he reads this thread: There are of course many clubs in Austria more expensive than Globe, GT Vienna and Sharks where prices are 400 E and up. Those kind of clubs are not for me (I will be looking for more budgetfriendly alternatives going forward), but maybe this is where BlueMoon should go?
    When I have so many followers for my tastes because they know I get most of prettiest in clubs I visit, I prefer to pay 200/60 at Sharks or Freubad for wow looks full GFE, my quality standard, rather than 140/60 for low level suck and fuck sex at Wellcum where I feel so much how girls are not used to my way compare to their usual Italian business. I didn't feel so much at GT Vienna even was not a regular. I let you enjoy Wellcum, only restaurant for me, same than Globe, when both close to my sporty spots. 4 visits at Wellcum, only 1 100/40 with FK room with full natural Sveta but no wow to repeat even she was very honest, arithmetic talk when 4 hours with beautiful 20 yo frenchie on only 2 week ends, for high quality for me.

  6. #24080
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMoon22  [View Original Post]
    My plan is for a 2 weeks or so in Germany / Europe. I'm not saying I want to pay as high dollar as possible but if there is a place with much better service (quality of women, better service in bed, like to chit chat and just friendlier) for 200/60 vs. 100/60 I'd rather the 200/60 place.

    I have some sight seeing I want to do and I want to hit several FKKs in different cities. Not against budget clubs either I wouldn't mind going for a 3-4 chick day and see if I can pull it off.
    Best quality is in Germany and Freubad Switzerland, Globe is now lower and Wellcum is far below for quality for sex. To avoid Christmas and Sylvester / new year times.

  7. #24079
    Quote Originally Posted by Shark16  [View Original Post]
    Needless to say I find Sirioja's analysis of Wellcum very shallow. And I am no Wellcum supporter at all. I still spend most of my time at Oase / Sharks, but I found Wellcum to be a genuine contester. And Wellcum grows on me the more Hessen reports of 200 E /60 sessions and girls with low performance I read. This is vital info for any international traveller.
    Same. Not specifically invested in Welcum either but I think since the Frankfurt clubs took the price hike, it's just no longer a good deal visiting those clubs. Amongst my mongering circle, I'm known to be a frivolous spender buying lots of drinks and taking long rooms; but at the same time, I always look for the best deal and I certainly don't like getting ripped off. Well, those clubs in Frankfurt are bordering on ripoff levels. To me, 150 per hour at a fuck factory is pretty close to a ripoff when incall service is available for the same price 1 km down the street. Some of the same girls working the clubs are offering the same deal in a private hotel! You wouldn't even have to pay that entry.

    Furthermore, nothing about Frankfurt is worth visiting besides fuck clubs. It's not even all that "German" of a city. At Welcum, I now get a better deal, better optics, same service, better amenities, and gorgeous scenery; but now I can integrate it with more interesting destinations besides a boring banking city in Germany. I would much rather incorporate my mongering trip with a expedition to the Alps, enjoy northern Italy, or even be more adventurous and explore less touristic Croatia and Slovenia.

    To me, going to Frankfurt for fucking over Welcum is like going to Thailand when better options are only a couple hours away in Philippines and Indonesia. But forums are usually about 3-5 years behind the hotter options anyway.

    I'll keep going to Cologne-Dusseldorf-Dortmund for the good budget deal for fresh Eastern Europeans (something special about not having sex or masturbating for a month then getting of a plane and getting 4-5 finishes for less than 300 euro at budget clubs that provide optics punching above their weight class). But Frankfurt will be reserved for special occasions like holidays and celebrations visiting friends, aka when getting ripped off is acceptable due to the occasion.

  8. #24078
    Quote Originally Posted by Shark16  [View Original Post]

    If BlueMoon is genuine, has no time restraints, an excellent bank account, no interest in budget clubs, and really want good advice on the "high end" FKK clubs of Europe, then all those three clubs would be included in my recommendation based on personal experience. Maybe GT Vienna too (if he can handle the rip-off attempts). He probably should add Switzerland (Globe and Freubad?) and Spain (the clubs of Madrid and Costa del Sol) to the list of places to visit.
    My plan is for a 2 weeks or so in Germany / Europe. I'm not saying I want to pay as high dollar as possible but if there is a place with much better service (quality of women, better service in bed, like to chit chat and just friendlier) for 200/60 vs. 100/60 I'd rather the 200/60 place.

    I have some sight seeing I want to do and I want to hit several FKKs in different cities. Not against budget clubs either I wouldn't mind going for a 3-4 chick day and see if I can pull it off.

  9. #24077
    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, Andiamo is a good break from Welcum if in the area for 3+ days and wanting to leave the secluded club-hotel and explore the town. Smaller line up but I found a solid 8 there and service was also an 8 with DFK. Line up on a weekday afternoon was only about 15-20 but I was told about 30 on the weekend.
    Thanks for the intel. Very useful.

    Needless to say I find Sirioja's analysis of Wellcum very shallow. And I am no Wellcum supporter at all. I still spend most of my time at Oase / Sharks, but I found Wellcum to be a genuine contester. And Wellcum grows on me the more Hessen reports of 200 E /60 sessions and girls with low performance I read. This is vital info for any international traveller.

    If BlueMoon is genuine, has no time restraints, an excellent bank account, no interest in budget clubs, and really want good advice on the "high end" FKK clubs of Europe, then all those three clubs would be included in my recommendation based on personal experience. Maybe GT Vienna too (if he can handle the rip-off attempts). He probably should add Switzerland (Globe and Freubad?) and Spain (the clubs of Madrid and Costa del Sol) to the list of places to visit.

    And regarding "high end" clubs; I bet Massimo Potente in the Austrian threads of this forum will be laughing his ass off if he reads this thread: There are of course many clubs in Austria more expensive than Globe, GT Vienna and Sharks where prices are 400 E and up. Those kind of clubs are not for me (I will be looking for more budgetfriendly alternatives going forward), but maybe this is where BlueMoon should go?

  10. #24076
    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, Andiamo is a good break from Welcum if in the area for 3+ days and wanting to leave the secluded club-hotel and explore the town. Smaller line up but I found a solid 8 there and service was also an 8 with DFK.

    Line up on a weekday afternoon was only about 15-20 but I was told about 30 on the weekend. It was the only club I've seen that offered a hair cut to the men.

    For a while I also thought of Sharks as the greatest place on earth because all the girls and reception knew me and treated me like the most popular kid in school. As I've gone there less and less, fewer and fewer faces recognize me and the pumped up experience tapered.
    For first time, I was disappointed by Andiamo casting on a Saturday evening on beginning of November, when I didn't want to repeat with not kissing red hair even she was smiling when seeing me.

  11. #24075
    Quote Originally Posted by Shark16  [View Original Post]
    Sorry, your French poetry is very unclear. What do you mean?

    A tight pussy is usually regarded as a quality and a rare find. My little one is above average in size, but the Wellcum girls certainly gave me a good time (tight or more loose). Good pounding and great stamina. Unless I have misunderstood something in your poetry, I would say you are wrong. Dead wrong.

    Somewhat true. We have discussed these cultural differences many times in the past. But.

    You cannot say that you cannot find girls who french kiss at Wellcum. I was offered this by several girls. They were not hard to find at all.

    And; you seem to forget to mention that french kissing is aldo harder to find at the German clubs post the 2017 law and covid19. The differences between the German and Austrian clubs are not as great as it was 5- 15 years ago.

    I find it disrespectful to be patronizing Italians. Italians are great lovers. Kinky and fun! And the Wellcum girls respond very well to their demand.

    So; for years there have been numerous reports of girls at the German clubs refusing to go for less than 1 hour. Maybe 30 mnts sessions can be regarded as a quality sign for Wellcum?

    That said; I have had 30,60 and 90 mnts sessions at Wellcum without any problems at all. No shortchange of time even in a 30 mnts session. And many, many girls seemed very happy to extend sessions. I simply do not see your argument here.

    No, it's not. You are simplifying the discussion too much. What is so much better in Germany with regard to the "quality of sex"? Please explain..
    You seem to be a so great supporter of Wellcum, when I'm not, nor for any club. When I like, I write. When I don't like, I also write, for Sharks, for Globe, for LR before. 4 visits at Wellcum on Friday, Saturday and Sunday to get full casting, not on Monday like a tourist. Only Elina is a top look for my eyes, when Selina is pretty but not wow. Elina telling not kissing, Selina telling: You are French? So, you have big dick. I didn't write tight, but small pussies, meaning not able to get a normal Caucasian size deep inside. Many girls telling: Italians don't kiss. I like Italians who welcome me in Alte Adige, telling: French hero through Dolomiti, but they are not high quality for my way for sex, when I have 5 on higher level girls in Germany and got 3 at Freubad. Ch on this year. No other reason than Zoncolan and Mione Gentile to make me return. When I remember Anita, Coralia and Sepid at GT Vienna, I didn't see this level at Wellcum since 2018. Since 2016, had only Lena. Ro in 2017 for wow girl. When Sharks was disappointing for me on this year, but found 2 of my best ever girls in Hessen since few weeks and they are far higher level than at Wellcum. Each one own subjective tastes of course, but I never had sex with any normal woman without kissing a lot before, here is my model for sex, not Italian hygienic quickie, when I prefer to take my time to enjoy when girl is worthing, preferring quality than quantity, but not found at Wellcum, except for foods and view around the club, even trees in garden are tall now and hide beautiful Carinthians.

  12. #24074
    Quote Originally Posted by Shark16  [View Original Post]
    Sorry, your French poetry is very unclear. What do you mean?

    A tight pussy is usually regarded as a quality and a rare find. My little one is above average in size, but the Wellcum girls certainly gave me a good time (tight or more loose). Good pounding and great stamina. Unless I have misunderstood something in your poetry, I would say you are wrong. Dead wrong.

    Somewhat true. We have discussed these cultural differences many times in the past. But.

    You cannot say that you cannot find girls who french kiss at Wellcum. I was offered this by several girls. They were not hard to find at all.

    And; you seem to forget to mention that french kissing is aldo harder to find at the German clubs post the 2017 law and covid19. The differences between the German and Austrian clubs are not as great as it was 5- 15 years ago.

    I find it disrespectful to be patronizing Italians. Italians are great lovers. Kinky and fun! And the Wellcum girls respond very well to their demand.

    So; for years there have been numerous reports of girls at the German clubs refusing to go for less than 1 hour. Maybe 30 mnts sessions can be regarded as a quality sign for Wellcum?
    Yeah, Andiamo is a good break from Welcum if in the area for 3+ days and wanting to leave the secluded club-hotel and explore the town. Smaller line up but I found a solid 8 there and service was also an 8 with DFK.

    Line up on a weekday afternoon was only about 15-20 but I was told about 30 on the weekend. It was the only club I've seen that offered a hair cut to the men.

    For a while I also thought of Sharks as the greatest place on earth because all the girls and reception knew me and treated me like the most popular kid in school. As I've gone there less and less, fewer and fewer faces recognize me and the pumped up experience tapered.

  13. #24073

    One should do it

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMoon22  [View Original Post]
    How many nights should a guy stay in Hessen for sharks? Any decent hotels close?
    One should do it, possibly two. There's one hotel a few hundred metres, have a look at booking.com or hotels.com and you can see all the available ones on their map.

  14. #24072
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMoon22  [View Original Post]
    How is the food at Wellcum? Good enough to stay for a few days or other places decent close by? And for those who say you can go back to your hotel with a chick since it's connected any chance at longer or overnight sessions with them?
    Best of Wellcum are foods compare to girls level. If You take a room, You can take girls to your room. Few years ago, I was asked by some girls if I wanted to take them for the night. On this year, I saw many girls not so busy on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. At 10 pm, most of prettiest finish and then average for looks. Club Andiamo in Villach is about 20 kms, I prefer usually, more chic than fuck factory Wellcum.

  15. #24071
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMoon22  [View Original Post]
    How many nights should a guy stay in Hessen for sharks? Any decent hotels close?
    If it's a first time two days is more than enough: Sharks is my favorite club but some people really don't like it and you shouldn't block a long time in case it doesn't work for you.

    For the hotel you have the Dormero at 10 minutes on foot. Highly recommended.

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