German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[McAdonis]

Many clubs charge over 100 e a day for entry for the girls. This is outrageous. And also why a club like Acapulco who does not charge these outrageous amounts are able to attract top girls even when their 30 min rate is just 40 euro. Acapulco has after what I know managed to hold the entry price for girls as low as 35 euro.

If WGs stopped paying over a 100 e a day for entry, the clubs would probably be forced to lower the entry. But thousands of WGs will gladly pay that exorbitant entry fee, if it gives them the potential to earn that big money. Many of the clubs that charge WGs over a 100 e day are clubs where the WGs have access to several coveted male demographics: (1) sex tourists, (2) Asians, (3) businessmen, (4) upper class clientele, (5) clientele that are so drunk and drugged out that they will lose track of their money, etc.

This is no different to people who will pay exorbitant amounts to rent or purchase homes in cities like London, NYC, SF, and Zurich: they simply want access to high paying jobs.

Frankfurt RLD is also prime real estate, 125 EUR to rent a room per day: https://www.roteshaus.com/mieterinnen.

[Sirioja]

I have to say one of the chef guy at LR is really really nice guy with fantastic smile. Food is not so good yeah, but custard pudding and pasta are safer bet there comparison to other food there. Only good thing about LR is service level of girls being high, even for 50 euro session.

I am not in FKK to eat, but considering you are stuck there to eat dinner, sometimes even two dinners if you stay long, I would like it if they level up the food. I would say, clubs to stick to pasta with different sauce and pizzas and salad bar, so you cannot go terribly wrong. I also would like soup like they sometimes have OK one at GT.

I think beside everyday fucking that making FKK girls bones to go wider as years go by and thus ass bigger. It is also actually food they eat at the club making their ass expand in size as years go by in FKK. When you find new young girl at FKK, you must fuck her a lot at the beginning because soon her ass is bigger, she has plastic liquid bags in her boobs, Botox, tattoos among other things as she get polluted into FKK environment.

LR bald cooker moved to GT, yes 1 LR cooker is really funny, but foods became often very average, at 9. 30 pm nothing anymore to eat in a club closing at 4 am, midnight pizzas are lower quality than before, when you can eat until 2 am at Sharks or Oase, until 1 am at small Gold. When I used to call LR my little Globe in Germany on 2016 and 2017 with great girls like Daria who asked for love, high potential in bed Jeni. Ro and Melissa. Bu, my best FKK girl Eve who played chic, claiming to be selective, but my LR girls on 2019 were not on same level, some new don't even kiss, even little Eva is real fire in bed. When could watch Rolland Garros on June 2016 , or Austin Formula 1 on October 2016, only Bundesliga for staff and friends now, and less clients, and I m sure management is more responsible than me about what became LR. 60 € entry is expensive for this, when you don't go for free beer and level of girls is not anymore higher than elsewhere in Germany, I found higher level girls at Gold or Vanilla, Oase.

[Member #4636]

I think beside everyday fucking that making FKK girls bones to go wider as years go by and thus ass bigger. It is also actually food they eat at the club making their ass expand in size as years go by in FKK. When you find new young girl at FKK, you must fuck her a lot at the beginning because soon her ass is bigger, she has plastic liquid bags in her boobs, Botox, tattoos among other things as she get polluted into FKK environment.

You blame it in the food now for their ass getting bigger? LOL I thought it was only. The day fucking thing.

Next tine you find new young girl at FKK tell her to fuck only with you because if she does it on a daily basis her bones will get wider and her ass bigger, hahaha.

Regarding food Palace has also good food and that because the chef is Greek.

[Mr Ho]

LR is empty most of times, except on Saturdays evening, and 60 is expensive for foods quality and club services when you don't drink 10 free beer. Sharks is not anymore so crowded, no wait for room when they closed elephant room and few others. Yes, GT could increase entry, mainly for party, but then Germans would cry, even they don't make the business at GT, as they cried when hour became for 100, when Bab or Bernds were for 100 since long time.

I have to say one of the chef guy at LR is really really nice guy with fantastic smile. Food is not so good yeah, but custard pudding and pasta are safer bet there comparison to other food there. Only good thing about LR is service level of girls being high, even for 50 euro session.

I am not in FKK to eat, but considering you are stuck there to eat dinner, sometimes even two dinners if you stay long, I would like it if they level up the food. I would say, clubs to stick to pasta with different sauce and pizzas and salad bar, so you cannot go terribly wrong. I also would like soup like they sometimes have OK one at GT.

The worst is Artemis for food. Considering owner is Turkish, it would be nice if they just open kebab car front of club, that would be extra income for owner because we all end up there LOL.

I think beside everyday fucking that making FKK girls bones to go wider as years go by and thus ass bigger. It is also actually food they eat at the club making their ass expand in size as years go by in FKK. When you find new young girl at FKK, you must fuck her a lot at the beginning because soon her ass is bigger, she has plastic liquid bags in her boobs, Botox, tattoos among other things as she get polluted into FKK environment.

[Mr Ho]

Oase entry for 40 euro for 2 hours is also a fair and reasonable entry.

Only been to Oase once, but in summer that club is nice. Just did not like main bar area as you enter. It was too dark to see girls face. Downstairs with restaurant area has good light to see girls face.

[Mr Ho]

GT Bruggen and LR have entry 60, not 50, with free beer, but very average foods most of time now. Too expensive for me for what became LR, and GT garden is not on level compare to Vanilla, Sharks, Oase or World. Every day, Oase is 50 before 4 pm and Palace is 50 before 5 pm. Sharks can be 45 every Monday. Aca Gold is 25 before 2 pm.

My bad, I just remember it is cheaper than other main places. 60 is still good deal and I do like garden and restaurant set up there with Russian borscht soup sometimes. LR for 60 is bit too much, it basically a house with mini garden.

New Palace deal is fair enough considering that clubs size. No where to escape and breath club.

[Sirioja]

If there is no competition, why doesn't GT, LR, Sharks or any other club raise its entrance price to 150 euro? This is my last post on this subject.

LR is empty most of times, except on Saturdays evening, and 60 is expensive for foods quality and club services when you don't drink 10 free beer. Sharks is not anymore so crowded, no wait for room when they closed elephant room and few others. Yes, GT could increase entry, mainly for party, but then Germans would cry, even they don't make the business at GT, as they cried when hour became for 100, when Bab or Bernds were for 100 since long time.

[Member #4636]

I think in the club where facility is good like Artemis with gym, in house doctor, solarium, few sauna, two pools, jacuzzi, girls sleeping area, roof top etc etc. 140 entrance for girls are justified.

But in other smaller clubs. With limited space and facility, it can be considered.

On top of that, owner need to deal with authorities, which require a lot of external help like lawyers, accountant, former police consultant etc. These are expensive cost.

For monger 50 euro entrance is good, but when it is like 80 euro it is bit too much for most clubs. The worst is palace, it is 75 euro and look at that limited space facility. For facility, I like the Artemis best. And for price I like GT Bruggen in summer with big garden and it is only 50 euro to enter.

Oase entry for 40 euro for 2 hours is also a fair and reasonable entry.

[Member #4636]

If there is no competition, why doesn't GT, LR, Sharks or any other club raise its entrance price to 150 euro? This is my last post on this subject.

Unbelievable that you said this! Please read value-added tax part of the following link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Germany#Value-added_tax

(For American readers, value-added tax in Germany is equivalent to sale tax in USA. He essentially said that if a store in US doesn't give you a receipt for the product you purchased, the store legally doesn't have to pay the sale tax of that product to the government)

I don't want to keep discussing. Let's let the readers decide what to take from our posts. This is my last post on this subject.

From your own link.

'The amount payable is the value-added tax it has invoiced, minus any amounts of deductible input tax.'

You probably don't know how VAT works.

[Sirioja]

I think in the club where facility is good like Artemis with gym, in house doctor, solarium, few sauna, two pools, jacuzzi, girls sleeping area, roof top etc etc. 140 entrance for girls are justified.

But in other smaller clubs. With limited space and facility, it can be considered.

On top of that, owner need to deal with authorities, which require a lot of external help like lawyers, accountant, former police consultant etc. These are expensive cost.

For monger 50 euro entrance is good, but when it is like 80 euro it is bit too much for most clubs. The worst is palace, it is 75 euro and look at that limited space facility. For facility, I like the Artemis best. And for price I like GT Bruggen in summer with big garden and it is only 50 euro to enter.

GT Bruggen and LR have entry 60, not 50, with free beer, but very average foods most of time now. Too expensive for me for what became LR, and GT garden is not on level compare to Vanilla, Sharks, Oase or World. Every day, Oase is 50 before 4 pm and Palace is 50 before 5 pm. Sharks can be 45 every Monday. Aca Gold is 25 before 2 pm.

[Mr Ho]

I think in the club where facility is good like Artemis with gym, in house doctor, solarium, few sauna, two pools, jacuzzi, girls sleeping area, roof top etc etc. 140 entrance for girls are justified.

But in other smaller clubs. With limited space and facility, it can be considered.

On top of that, owner need to deal with authorities, which require a lot of external help like lawyers, accountant, former police consultant etc. These are expensive cost.

For monger 50 euro entrance is good, but when it is like 80 euro it is bit too much for most clubs. The worst is palace, it is 75 euro and look at that limited space facility. For facility, I like the Artemis best. And for price I like GT Bruggen in summer with big garden and it is only 50 euro to enter.

[Bfsie]

No real competition in FKK land, ...

If there is no competition, why doesn't GT, LR, Sharks or any other club raise its entrance price to 150 euro? This is my last post on this subject.

Secondly and most important VAT is paid to government only when you issue an invoice or a receipt.

Unbelievable that you said this! Please read value-added tax part of the following link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Germany#Value-added_tax

(For American readers, value-added tax in Germany is equivalent to sale tax in USA. He essentially said that if a store in US doesn't give you a receipt for the product you purchased, the store legally doesn't have to pay the sale tax of that product to the government)

I don't want to keep discussing. Let's let the readers decide what to take from our posts. This is my last post on this subject.

[Sirioja]

I was with a pretty 21 year old civilian blonde last week. Looks wise, she could compete with the best I ever had in any FKK in my life. We were hot and heavy, made out on the couch for some time and I requested we take a sensual shower together which I enjoy thoroughly. She wasn't too sure because she didn't want to get her hair wet but agreed to please me. Shower was very nice, we made out more in the shower, soaped and washed each other nicely, and then moved to the bedroom. She blew me, then I ate her a little, and I suggested we move to 69. She agreed and positioned her pussy at my mouth and her ass in my nostrils. Boy, even after all that shower and washing, the scent was too strong and not in a pleasant way. I had to hold my breath to continue eating her. After a few minutes I reluctantly called timeout and we moved to other activities. The scent didn't bother me earlier when she was on her back and I ate her, but in 69 it was a bit too much. I love muff diving and her **** was reasonably clean and tasty but all of that came to a premature end due to her anal hygiene issues. Oh well..

For me, Romanian girls have better care and hygiene than most of German girls, some Germans are really very natural, not much sophisticated, average nails and shaving.

[Craiova]

VAT is paid to the government after deducting VAT of expense invoices. In case your VAT from expenses is higher then you claim it back from the authorities. This is how VAT works in Europe.

Secondly and most important VAT is paid to government only when you issue an invoice or a receipt.

How many mongers or girls get a receipt or invoice when they pay entrance? You know the answer.

And you know the BFH decision AZ. : V are 9/17 published at December 5th, 2018 concerning the decision if the club must pay the missing VAT in case working girls haven't done for their sales from sex service.

[Member #4636]

I know. WGs and mongers pay value-added tax and FKK clubs collect this tax for the government. For example, a monger pays a FKK club 50 euro as his entrance fee. Technically this 50 euro should be 42 euro plus 8 euro value-added tax (42 euro X 19%) and this 8 euro value-added tax has to be given to the Government. I was pointing out that the club turnover in Pksimar69's post included this valued-add tax, which shouldn't be counted when the clubs calculate their profit because they must pay this tax to the government.

VAT is paid to the government after deducting VAT of expense invoices. In case your VAT from expenses is higher then you claim it back from the authorities. This is how VAT works in Europe.

Secondly and most important VAT is paid to government only when you issue an invoice or a receipt.

How many mongers or girls get a receipt or invoice when they pay entrance? You know the answer.