German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Pistons]

Sirioja,

Indeed, I was also told this by a girl once: Tatooed guys usually have small dicks. I suppose they have to make up for something. Or maybe the ink makes it shrink!

[Japansh]

I am travelling tomorrow to NRW. Cologne, Dusseldorf area.

I will have time during the day (10 am - 4 pm) and then late in the evening 9 pm +.

My interested are nice natural tits, great deep BJ with CIM. Money are not a problem and I have a car.

Which will be the best club for me Samya, Babylon, Sauna Club, others.

Any girls names, descriptions will be appreciated.

Which club has the best / girst earlier during the day and which works late during the night?

Thank you in advance.

[Shark16]

Game of chicken really.

Yep, that sums it up for me. Very well put.

[Takedown]

As a country I think it is the Dutch. As a region, Dalmatia in Croatia has taller people (try visiting Split and you'll see). And as a tribe, the Maasai of Kenya / Tanzania are even taller. As a discussion I have no idea why we have it here.

So basically, people near the equator and poles are hardly the tallest, the exact opposite really. Discussion started because of the claim here:

Basically near the equator and poles people are taller than at 45 degree latitude.

[Sirioja]

Some internet sources say Dutch are the tallest, some say the ex-Yugoslavian countries. Either way it is only a 1-2 cm difference either way. Part of the confusion is that each country does the survey on its own citizens and I suspect these snapshots don't lead to an apples-to-apples comparison. For instance, Bosnia might have sampled 300 men age 17-24 in 2005 and measured each man. Whereas Netherlands might have sample 350 men age 20 plus in 2016 and allowed for self-reporting. If you look at the Wiki link I originally posted the methodologies are sometimes listed.

Here is another interesting read. Based on military conscription records, in Van Gogh's day, the Dutch were amongst the shortest people in Europe. A century later they are amongst the tallest:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...the-height-gap

According to girls, but they don't meet many black, some even refusing, so NL are said to be the biggest and Asians the smallest, resting pussy as say girls. This is made with muscles, so usually fat have small, full tattooed quite often also. I m happy because at the moment my new beauties say: You are good for me, even I know difficult for my Romanian pussy but we will find the good position for both, but better than being so often said: big for my small pussy.

[Pistons]

A few times I have been asked if I want to try something in the room. And since I get a hunsh where these incidents are going, I always ask "would it cost me anything? Every time I get a 'yes, 50 e'. But the last time, instead of twlling her only 'no', I decided to add a "no, but for the sake of avoiding conflict with the next guy, let him know the price when you ask about this". One of the girls I told this to just looked away and tried to avoid it. Maybe she thought I was a little rude. The other one told me straight up "but then he doesn't want it". And I replied "I know". And then we laughed a bit.

[Pistons]

Some internet sources say Dutch are the tallest, some say the ex-Yugoslavian countries. Either way it is only a 1-2 cm difference either way. Part of the confusion is that each country does the survey on its own citizens and I suspect these snapshots don't lead to an apples-to-apples comparison. For instance, Bosnia might have sampled 300 men age 17-24 in 2005 and measured each man. Whereas Netherlands might have sample 350 men age 20 plus in 2016 and allowed for self-reporting. If you look at the Wiki link I originally posted the methodologies are sometimes listed.

Here is another interesting read. Based on military conscription records, in Van Gogh's day, the Dutch were amongst the shortest people in Europe. A century later they are amongst the tallest:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...the-height-gap

As a country I think it is the Dutch. As a region, Dalmatia in Croatia has taller people (try visiting Split and you'll see). And as a tribe, the Maasai of Kenya / Tanzania are even taller. As a discussion I have no idea why we have it here.

[Mr Ho]

Had an interesting debate in Mainhattan two nights ago and thought I'the ask senior members for their thoughts.

Had a great session with Sharon / Cheron, including BDSM (which I requested) and I am aware the girls always want 50 more for that so no problem.

However, during the session (90 minutes because she was excellent) she asked me if I would like a covered dildo in my ass. I agreed.

She was skilful with it and it did add to the session even though I didn't request it.

We get to the locker. I want to give her 200.150 for the time (90 minutes) and 50 for the BDSM. She says it is 250 as she used the dildo? I started laughing and said I hadn't asked for it, and that as she wanted to do it I didn't see why I should pay more for it. She invited me to go to reception as she was very sure this is "always" extra. News to me. I've done it before when girls have proposed it and never had to pay.

What so annoying with some of the girls in FKK nowadays is that, they began dividing standard sex acts and taking each small actions as an extra.

Once at palace, a girl came up to me to session, and in rare occasion I went with her because she was quite hot. Of course when she approached me, I made sure DFK and BBBJ was included in session, so I went to room with her, she did give DFK, she did BBBJ, then I was about to do DATY, then her hand blocked her pussy and said 50 euro extra LOL She got me there, I never had DATY as an extra in past 10 years in FKK, so I did not bother to even negotiate for DATY and voila, 50 euro extra LOL.

I did not even get annoyed, it was just ridiculous lough on my face then because upsell division of standard sex came this far.

Only hope we got without being hustled and annoyed with cheap scam are in nrw region only excluding oceans.

Not all girls are like this, but once in awhile I come across girl that make me go "what?

Standard session change as time goes by, but I would like them to stop dividing sex acts into so many small pieces and sell it as extra because prior negotiation before room get too annoying to the level that kills mood and made me anger fuck her in room to punish her than having good sex.

[McAdonis]

Some internet sources say Dutch are the tallest, some say the ex-Yugoslavian countries. Either way it is only a 1-2 cm difference either way. Part of the confusion is that each country does the survey on its own citizens and I suspect these snapshots don't lead to an apples-to-apples comparison. For instance, Bosnia might have sampled 300 men age 17-24 in 2005 and measured each man. Whereas Netherlands might have sample 350 men age 20 plus in 2016 and allowed for self-reporting. If you look at the Wiki link I originally posted the methodologies are sometimes listed.

Here is another interesting read. Based on military conscription records, in Van Gogh's day, the Dutch were amongst the shortest people in Europe. A century later they are amongst the tallest:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...the-height-gap

[McAdonis]

You cannot negotiate every detail of every session.

You said yourself, historically, you have never been asked to pay extra for this service. If it is not one of the established extras, she should have communicated to you upfront her expectations. Do not let her convince you that you are evil one here!

Furthermore, if you're a regular at a club with known liberal spending habits, one girl complaining will not prevent other girls from going with you.

+1, if PFI were an established "cheap charlie" 50 EUR guy, he would be blacklisted for complaining to reception. But that's assuming the WG would have even taken PFI to reception. My guess is she would have backed down and been happy with her 200 EUR. If PFI had confidently agreed with going to reception, this Sharon / Cheron WG would probably have trailed behind PFI several paces. As PFI reaches reception and turns around, this Sharon / Cheron WG would be nowhere in sight. Game of chicken really.

PFI, please show some self-discipline and do not go with her next time you see her, and calmly explain your reason. I am not saying that you never have to go with her, but at least put her on probation. Best case scenario: She will on the spot, tell you that for all future sessions, a dildo up the ass is free as long as you agree to 90 minutes BDSM for 200. More probable scenario: She will walk away in a huff to see if you follow her. But once she sees you auditioning other WGs, or she hears you are happily paying 200 EUR to other WGs, she will reconsider. If not the same visit, then two or three visits later.

According to many whales that I have spoken to, a similar scenario plays out with the WhatsApp Western Union requests. The WGs try to squeeze some money out of the whale. When the whale says no, the WGs will ignore the whale and see if the whale begs for forgiveness. A few months might pass, but it seems like 90 percent of the cases, the WG comes crawling back. The WG of course, for reasons of pride, never apologizes. She simply pretends like nothing ever happened and that there was never a rift.

[Polyamorist]

You cannot negotiate every detail of every session. It would kill it. I'm all in favour of getting the deal straight before starting. But not to the point of asking about every possible movement or action.

Salaam P48. If there was no agreement to pay, there is no obligation to pay. That is a standard of commerce worldwide and for all time.

If she had asked for 1000 euros would you have paid it? Seriously, she could have made up any figure she liked. But if you were not already familiar with that figure, then you were not under any obligation to honor it. It takes two parties to make a deal.

You should have called her bluff and taken her to reception. As of now, she has been incentivized to operate the same scam with other guys too. Standards keep falling and it is easy to see why.

[Pessimist]

When you request BDSM and since you apparently agreed on 50 E as an extra for it, how was the request for BDSM made? Was it as stated, I. E. "I want BDSM"? Or did the request include specific sex acts that you wanted to be done to you by her and vice versa? I am not sure if a dildo up the guy's ass could be included in the BDSM category. If so, you could simply claim you are already paying for it.

But anything outside the very basic suck and fuck is to be negotiated prior to the act. The receptionist even includes that much in her pricing instructions to first time guests. As such, if you want to be safe, you should always ask if this act is included or if she is going to charge for it. I know most guys in the middle of sex don't do much of thinking, but one should not be surprised if a girl charges extra for any sex act that is not in the standard suck and fuck. That she suggested it to you is immaterial. Whether you requested or she suggested, the act was done and she provided such service.

In my experience, Sharks management takes the side of the guy in many of these situations. They would have sided with you, I think.

[PayForIt]

Not my cup of tea but that still sounds like bullshit to me. Add that to the fact that she didn't quote a price explicitly, no way I would pay for that. Also, that scammy upsell attempt would give me good reason to not go with her again. Furthermore, if you're a regular at a club with known liberal spending habits, one girl complaining will not prevent other girls from going with you. If anything, they would know that you're not a sucker.

Thanks. Interesting that Pksimar69 has a different view that it was an extra.

I've never had to ask before if this was an extra. It's all part and parcel of the BDSM experience. I agree with Shark 16 - just part of the deal I was already paying for. I tried joking with her "seriously. Can we go back to the room then and you can pay me 50 to put the dildo up your ass? She laughed.

You cannot negotiate every detail of every session. It would kill it. I'm all in favour of getting the deal straight before starting. But not to the point of asking about every possible movement or action.

Just one of those things. I agree with Sirioja. No point in complaining. Wasn't worth it given the great session and the intention to tip anyway. But takedown makes a strong point that her upsell at the end is a good reason not to repeat, or I suppose to get this clear from the outset next time (mood killer though that would be).

[Pistons]

Just commenting on the fact most commenters here seems to want to make a statement regarding not having had a dildo up their ass. Hehe.

[Takedown]

Not my cup of tea but that still sounds like bullshit to me. Add that to the fact that she didn't quote a price explicitly, no way I would pay for that. Also, that scammy upsell attempt would give me good reason to not go with her again. Furthermore, if you're a regular at a club with known liberal spending habits, one girl complaining will not prevent other girls from going with you. If anything, they would know that you're not a sucker.

Had an interesting debate in Mainhattan two nights ago and thought I'the ask senior members for their thoughts.

Had a great session with Sharon / Cheron, including BDSM (which I requested) and I am aware the girls always want 50 more for that so no problem.

However, during the session (90 minutes because she was excellent) she asked me if I would like a covered dildo in my ass. I agreed.

She was skilful with it and it did add to the session even though I didn't request it.

We get to the locker. I want to give her 200.150 for the time (90 minutes) and 50 for the BDSM. She says it is 250 as she used the dildo? I started laughing and said I hadn't asked for it, and that as she wanted to do it I didn't see why I should pay more for it. She invited me to go to reception as she was very sure this is "always" extra. News to me. I've done it before when girls have proposed it and never had to pay.