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[Pistons]

I really am glad I don't live in fascist USA though after watching Suckerbergs interview on Joe Rogan where he mentions men in black suit threatening him on his life at home unless they rigged the election by censoring the Hunter Biden laptop. Connotations to Stasi.

[Sirioja]

I've researched the forums and saw that RTC is Rote Teppich Club. (Red carpet club).

My question: What does this mean? Is it a type of service?

SOmeone else asked recently and didn't get a clear answer.

I read one report saying less than average girls, another said it means AO (not sure if he was joking), another mentioned that in Globe you get BJs on the couch which reminds him of RTC clubs in Germany. Maybe the term is overloaded, but context clues aren't helping.

RTC are small but very high level clubs only selecting top beauties, far prettier than at Globe, You can fuck AO for 30/20 , like 10 guys per day fucking them. You can t miss such unique bargain. Don t look too much at teeth.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

I've researched the forums and saw that RTC is Rote Teppich Club. (Red carpet club).

My question: What does this mean? Is it a type of service?

SOmeone else asked recently and didn't get a clear answer.

I read one report saying less than average girls, another said it means AO (not sure if he was joking), another mentioned that in Globe you get BJs on the couch which reminds him of RTC clubs in Germany. Maybe the term is overloaded, but context clues aren't helping.

They were (and mostly still are) AO clubs.

[LshRoomer]

I've researched the forums and saw that RTC is Rote Teppich Club. (Red carpet club).

My question: What does this mean? Is it a type of service?

SOmeone else asked recently and didn't get a clear answer.

I read one report saying less than average girls, another said it means AO (not sure if he was joking), another mentioned that in Globe you get BJs on the couch which reminds him of RTC clubs in Germany. Maybe the term is overloaded, but context clues aren't helping.

[LshRoomer]

Yes, agreed. I had some excellent experiences in Europe on seeking. I am not a LatAm or Asia expert and can't speak to those areas. I tend not to use seeking in the vicinity of nice FKK clubs for obvious reasons. I also found that I needed to do less haggling and had to sift through fewer scammers in Europe relative to the US. But then again, I haven't used seeking in Europe after the pandemic and at least in the US, hassle and haggling factor became worse post pandemic.

While I have had decent experiences in the US (with lots of effort), I very much prefer the EU scene when it comes to SBs, and I don't think it's even comparable tbh. You mentioned that post-covid US girls are driving a harder bargain with more scams, while I'm seeing that the EU girls are more aggressive and ready to meet; no games. In my experience, there's less haggling, better prices, less secrecy, less scams, less flakiness, higher quality (depending on location, obv), and in general I have had far more success with less effort and more fun.

YMMV OFC. 02.

[Mr Ho]

I am in Bangkok, but I got zero interest to monger here as I am too used to german FKK and globe LOL!

[Turgid]

Did you discuss about the financials before you went out? I don't mind paying for her time but I want a more casual time than a business appointment. Being WGs, they probably won't turn down the money if offered, right?

That was 15 years ago. We live in different times now. There was no discussion about money. My experience back then was that many girls were open to hanging out with and going to non-p4p clubs with gents they met at FKKs. The understanding was that the gents paid for expenses. I was actually offered to meet outside the club by other girls with whom I did not accept back then.

[Sirioja]

Everyone talks so much about the clubs in Germany. Doesn't anyone go 'down' to Vienna. Plus a few higher end Bordellos get good reviews. The amount of clubs surrounding the city make it almost as ripe as any of the other areas. Plus the food city is fun.

Massimo is specialist for Vienna on austrian threads. I enjoyed GT on Summer 2020 with Anita ex Bruggen and YY, Coralia and Iranian Sepid for a beyond taboos night.

[Escape Artist]

Hey Escape,

Advice like what you provided is exactly what I was looking for, that insight into the scene that you would give to a 1st timer.

Just to clarify, you do not mean Villa-venus, right? Because I've seen Villa-venus and Venus saunaclub.

My mission from Amsterdam will be via train, so there won't be an opportunity to stop by on the way to essen, but that's cool. I love train rides in EU, especially with fresh mind expanding goodies from AMS and an FKK awaiting you upon your arrival LOL.

Yeah, can be confusing:

FKK Saunaclub Venus.

Gterstrae 27,46499 Hamminkeln, Germany.

[YodaXxx]

Around 15 years ago I met this Hungarian in Oase and we decided to spend time together off site. She drove me around in her car and I paid for meals and drinks. We had a totally fun time. At that time I found girls readily available to meet outside the club. However, in recent times I found that not to be the case. It is my observation that girls' attitudes have changed; now it is all about the money.

Did you discuss about the financials before you went out? I don't mind paying for her time but I want a more casual time than a business appointment. Being WGs, they probably won't turn down the money if offered, right?

[Sirioja]

Dear LshRoomer.

Hope you had a chance to visit Venus. Any feedback? I will be visiting Dusseldorf in December.

I visited on 3 times before covid and could never find a attractive to pay for.

[Pessimist]

I'll keep this short, as this isn't the right forum.

In addition to what Pessimist wrote, it's good to arm yourself with pricing knowledge and the general flow of how SA works. It's a lot of work and a lot of follow up, but damn how worth it it is when you get that awesome outing combined with an overnight with a super horny girl that doesn't want to leave (until morning), all for 250!! I'll be in Spain for 2 days at the end of the week with a SB that begged me to somehow spare 2 days for her (she refuses money). Remember that there is a human factor as well that people don't really take into account. This is especially true for the non-pros. Sometimes SBs end up liking you and want to do more stuff with you. In the case of optics, you literally have more choices. I don't as I'm that dude that gravitates more toward slim eurogirls with pretty faces..

Yes, agreed. I had some excellent experiences in Europe on seeking. I am not a LatAm or Asia expert and can't speak to those areas. I tend not to use seeking in the vicinity of nice FKK clubs for obvious reasons. I also found that I needed to do less haggling and had to sift through fewer scammers in Europe relative to the US. But then again, I haven't used seeking in Europe after the pandemic and at least in the US, hassle and haggling factor became worse post pandemic.

[Sirioja]

Hey Escape,

Advice like what you provided is exactly what I was looking for, that insight into the scene that you would give to a 1st timer.

Just to clarify, you do not mean Villa-venus, right? Because I've seen Villa-venus and Venus saunaclub.

My mission from Amsterdam will be via train, so there won't be an opportunity to stop by on the way to essen, but that's cool. I love train rides in EU, especially with fresh mind expanding goodies from AMS and an FKK awaiting you upon your arrival LOL.

Sauna club Venus, when Villa Venus is RTC, if you don't need high beauties. No Ada Penelope look at SC Venus, but little Romanians.

[PlateauPunter]

SOunds good to me, thanks for the info! It looks like both Venus and Penelope are equidistant from my place (about an hour). I only have one day in Essen, before moving on to Berlin. I've heard mixed reviews about Artemis, so I wanted another FKK to compare it to before partaking. Besides that, I have a girl in Berlin that may absorb my time, keeping me from checking out Artemis.

I'll hit Venus around 2 and chill for a couple hours, after elevating the afternoon with some of the freshness from Amsterdam. LOL. I'll see how things work out and report back.

Dear LshRoomer.

Hope you had a chance to visit Venus. Any feedback? I will be visiting Dusseldorf in December.

Thanks.

Pp.

[LshRoomer]

Seeking is alright but is a lot of hard work. If you are single, it is easier to handle. Also save some money on hotel rent if you can meet at your own place. I have been on seeking for 6 years, longer than most folks on that site. Like many things in life, things have gotten worse, especially after Covid. There is a dedicated thread on seeking, can read the stories there but some posts are overly rosy and hide or downplay the amount of due diligence one has to do to pick the good ones: has definitely become considerable. Then there are other reports on seeking thread from mongers who had a few bad experiences and turn excessively negative. I find neither type of report to be useful. In the end, the only experience that matters is your own. Unlike in FKKs there is no uniformity, no standards. Which is why the recent state of FKKs is a bit discouraging, that everything is up for haggling. If you read Sharks and Oase of late, think of seeking as involving 25 times as much negotiation, and with people you can't see, many of who are probably outright scammers. Being a cold, hard negotiator is a must; even enjoy the process. Or else you and your money are easily parted.

I'd not let your age be a deterrent. You never know what you may experience for yourself. More than age, your location is an issue and if I recall right, you are in the NYC vicinity. That tends to be an expensive area. Also, from your comments I gathered you don't throw money around carelessly (half of the girls want to be "spoiled" So, if you strictly hold the line on price, you will have fewer successes. On the other hand, you also said you are less sensitive to optics, which can tilt the odds in your favor.

I'll keep this short, as this isn't the right forum.

In addition to what Pessimist wrote, it's good to arm yourself with pricing knowledge and the general flow of how SA works. It's a lot of work and a lot of follow up, but damn how worth it it is when you get that awesome outing combined with an overnight with a super horny girl that doesn't want to leave (until morning), all for 250!! I'll be in Spain for 2 days at the end of the week with a SB that begged me to somehow spare 2 days for her (she refuses money). Remember that there is a human factor as well that people don't really take into account. This is especially true for the non-pros. Sometimes SBs end up liking you and want to do more stuff with you. In the case of optics, you literally have more choices. I don't as I'm that dude that gravitates more toward slim eurogirls with pretty faces.

Read the seeking thread and when you read it, look for reports from guys that tell the good and the bad as that probably is the most reliable picture into the sugar world. But just as guys on the FKK forums ask about pricing / experience, etc all the time, it's important to know what your local area expects. For example, you can easily expect 250 standard for a hot girl in Madrid, while in Berlin / london, 250 is laughable. I have found that the type of girls that you get in these two locals are different as well.

02.