German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Takedown]

Monger? Doesn't that imply sex? Whatever you like to call what you do. But mongering is a bit of a stretch don't you think?

Disingenuous at best but to be expected regarding defense mechanisms.

[Pistons]

Not a bad post at all Takedown! These things, and the ones McA points to are things to keep in mind.

But what is life without escapist practises? Eat chicken for every meal, and chicken gets boring.

The same thing can be said regarding everything in life. Work, food, locations, climate, weather, sports, music etc etc.

Now the argument that using a theory, or science even to defend ones ideas is a bit ficticious though, as that argument itself is the same thing. A theory. Much like Erasmus Montanus:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erasmus_Montanus

[Takedown]

I consider myself an addict. Not something I am proud of or really that ashamed of.

You have a healthy point of view, constantly keeping a check on a potentially detrimental habit. While I think it limits your enjoyment of the hobby, I personally think it is better to be this way rather than to be disconnected from facts and reality. You can see a lot of rationalization and intellectualization amongst hobbyist. These defense mechanism do serve a purpose, as they help cope with emotional insecurities, perhaps due to previous emotional trauma such as social rejection or lack of being loved. These logical thoughts help people suffering from psychological trauma accept their realities. You see it written all of the time; "I enjoy travel", "I am practicing my English", "this only takes a little bit of time", "I spend time with other friends", "Society has it wrong".

More broadly speaking, intellectualization can be seen in the frequent references to theories and use of jargon to put up a guise of control. A more therapeutic approach is to practice a higher level mechanism such as humour toward oneself. The problem with that is that it requires one to first let go of primitive mechanisms such as denial and practice acceptance.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectualization

[Sirioja]

Hello,

I will be in Frankfurt and Cologne hitting up bunch of FKKs. I come from Canada so smoking marijuana is legal here, I like to smoke a joint before a session with a escort. But I wonder if smoking marijuana inside FKK or around FKK is legal before have a session with an escort? Thanks.

Some smoke with girls, some girls take cocaine, not only at Aphro Zurich. Only YY NL had problems about drug.

[Samplerr]

Hello,

I will be in Frankfurt and Cologne hitting up bunch of FKKs. I come from Canada so smoking marijuana is legal here, I like to smoke a joint before a session with a escort. But I wonder if smoking marijuana inside FKK or around FKK is legal before have a session with an escort? Thanks.

Not legal, but easy to find if you ask the right girls. They might not have it themselves, but they'll know who does.

[The Cane]

Exactly, they are all already dressed for FKKs.

Caligula would also be properly dressed, and I dare say would quite enjoy aahahaha!

[Mr Ho]

Thanks Poly for the alternative reality of Ghandi and orange sized blue balls. Please keep this up but add in Einstein, Churchill and maybe North Korean leader Kim Suck Dong Un (I may have the the name wrong, lost in dubious translation error).

It seems the laws restricting the consensual sale of pussy must be deeply rooted in protecting the power of women rationing pussy and politics of reproduction that underwrites economic growth and consumption. They will never admit this.

Back in the day, not so long ago, Harem style sex life was only possible for very few men like king, maharaja, so called dictator like Kim Jong Un nd such etc. , but in recent years, more organized platforms in prostitution industry enable freedom thinking men to live similar sex life style for reasonable cost. This is real game changer for men and enhance sex life quality to whole new level. It is form of liberalization, mega liberalization actually.

Protecting power of women, protecting social system, protecting population pyramid, tax system etc. And in part human moral are the reason why recreational sex is perceived as rather dirty thing, it is form of mild brainwash, but rationality is there from the standpoint of those who are enforcing such ideology. It make sense for them to sustain this society, which I agree, though it is not ideology that benefit my sex life that I want to lead.

Personally, I think if all or most of men think like pro mongers, this world is heading to near extinction, so it is good that these mild enforcing brainwash is conducted by so called normal men who lead normal sex life, but it is also good that freedom is now given to choose how we want to live, and I prefer to think with open mind and feed my lust fucking beautiful girls than stuck in ancient closed mind ideologies filled with sexual frustrations.

It is all stand point and point of view, we may think we are normal or not addicted, but from society point of view, any mongers will be labeled as abnormal or sex addict or crazy person LOL, from our point of view, they are the crazy ones not admitting their human basic lust for recreational sex. It is never ending debate which actually keep the world goes around, I guess we call this keeping balance.

Meanwhile, we enjoy good sex life in shadow. Only if these people know how we live.

[Mr Ho]

Hello,

I will be in Frankfurt and Cologne hitting up bunch of FKKs. I come from Canada so smoking marijuana is legal here, I like to smoke a joint before a session with a escort. But I wonder if smoking marijuana inside FKK or around FKK is legal before have a session with an escort? Thanks.

Take train to Venlo, which is border town of Netherlands, one hour train ride from duss, it is legal there and look for coffee shops there, which you will find two on google search, so take your pick. People in Netherlands speak fluent English mostly and it is all legit.

[XXL]

Hello,

I will be in Frankfurt and Cologne hitting up bunch of FKKs. I come from Canada so smoking marijuana is legal here, I like to smoke a joint before a session with a escort. But I wonder if smoking marijuana inside FKK or around FKK is legal before have a session with an escort? Thanks.

No it isn't. Marihuana still squarely against the law. Probably low underground availability in FKKs due to smell.

[CoolManFever]

Hello,

I will be in Frankfurt and Cologne hitting up bunch of FKKs. I come from Canada so smoking marijuana is legal here, I like to smoke a joint before a session with a escort. But I wonder if smoking marijuana inside FKK or around FKK is legal before have a session with an escort? Thanks.

[Pahllus Maximus]

Thanks Poly for the alternative reality of Ghandi and orange sized blue balls. Please keep this up but add in Einstein, Churchill and maybe North Korean leader Kim Suck Dong Un (I may have the the name wrong, lost in dubious translation error).

https://academic.oup.com/beheco/article/26/2/376/257321

Essentially it boils to that chasing women is hard work and orgasms are limited, so we don't want to waste it on inferior females or sub-par experiences, ie those that lack desirable traits of DNA selection, health and youth. Women use beauty (while they have it) to attract superior males and restrict pussy to lesser males. Duh! Oldest dance in the book and is essentially the core FKK transaction thanks to contraception, cheap travel and good old Germany with its key respect for people (apart from a decade of unfortunate madness) over centuries of enlightenment starting with Luther, Goeth and Faust.

It seems the laws restricting the consensual sale of pussy must be deeply rooted in protecting the power of women rationing pussy and politics of reproduction that underwrites economic growth and consumption. They will never admit this, but behind all the claims of trafficking and saving women from themselves, alleged respect / dignity and self sovereignty (applied selectively of course, all based on assumptions free of any evidence), the P2 P prohibition seems to really be about about protecting the equivalent pricing power of a cartel and long term subscription to a wasting asset from being displaced by casual labor providing pussy. If men want to love women and be monogamous (itself unnatural), fine, but it should be a free marketplace. Incredible in the face of the gig economy, globalisation, the cult / ideology of free markets etc this area is carved out from competition in some places. The Nordic model of going after the men in law enforcement (destroy demand) underscores the point of who this racket really benefits.

The stark contrast are the legions of tolerated exploitative pink collar jobs / industries for females with crap wages, repetitive tasks, humiliating, de-humanising and requiring conformity and docility, such as garment manufacturing, assembling electronics, care giving (wiping butts of infants and geriatrics) etc etc. The real crime is undermining pussy pricing and the rent seeking monopoly of women where that is a "thing" (and in their short window to sell a long-term contract for exclusive supply). As Oscar Wilde said, a crime (love) that dare not speak its name, and that speaking is what FKK's represent.

In a lot of ways the men here are perfectly rational seeking optimal choices and pricing in the face of a sanctioned rent-seeking. Given many here are clearly business savvy, this undermining the cartel should be celebrated rather than frowned up by the rent seekers. Polyamorist, perhaps taking a leaf from Ayn Rand, perhaps we need a "Galt's Gash" FKK story from the depths of your wicked imagination and talented pen where oppressed men escape to for a perfect life of wild sex and happy times.

[Steve 9696]

Exactly, they are all already dressed for FKKs. My hero Gandhi in particular would be uniquely qualified to be a kickass FKK wingman.

Gandhi was a really vigorous guy well into old age. A little known fact is that when he was 75 he started sleeping with his teenage grandnieces and also his gorgeous sexy young doctor.

The villagers gossiped endlessly. Profane minds will always jump to the wrong conclusions! They thought that Gandhi's intention was to have sex with the girls. Doh! Of course being Gandhi the whole point of sleeping with them was to not have sex with them. It was a celibacy test.

This all started when he was 16 and his father was severely ill. Gandhi waited by the bedside but he had just married a beautiful virgin and was obsessed by thoughts of his new wife's body. Eventually he couldn't stand it any more and he ran out to ravish her. Just as he was ejaculating, his father died. Gandhi blamed himself. Meanwhile the sex with his wife resulted in a child but the child died too. From then on Gandhi connected all feelings of lust with evil. He even told newlyweds not to have sex..

I was growing tired of all the philosophers going back and forth in here. OMG that is funny. Thanks for the respite! Great stuff. I literally am LOL at this polite upscale restaurant.

[Polyamorist]

Good question Poly! I would bring Jesus, Mahatma Gandhi and Dalai Lama to Sharks 2016 spring. They are all already ready, don't even need to change to robes or towels.

Exactly, they are all already dressed for FKKs. My hero Gandhi in particular would be uniquely qualified to be a kickass FKK wingman.

Gandhi was a really vigorous guy well into old age. A little known fact is that when he was 75 he started sleeping with his teenage grandnieces and also his gorgeous sexy young doctor.

The villagers gossiped endlessly. Profane minds will always jump to the wrong conclusions! They thought that Gandhi's intention was to have sex with the girls. Doh! Of course being Gandhi the whole point of sleeping with them was to not have sex with them. It was a celibacy test.

This all started when he was 16 and his father was severely ill. Gandhi waited by the bedside but he had just married a beautiful virgin and was obsessed by thoughts of his new wife's body. Eventually he couldn't stand it any more and he ran out to ravish her. Just as he was ejaculating, his father died. Gandhi blamed himself. Meanwhile the sex with his wife resulted in a child but the child died too. From then on Gandhi connected all feelings of lust with evil. He even told newlyweds not to have sex.

As Gandhi's spiritual influence grew, so did his sense of responsibility. Whenever he had a wet dream, he saw religious wars burst out around him in India and he was filled with self-disgust. He became determined to purify himself of all sexual desire by exposing himself to greater and greater temptations. He would frequently bathe naked with the hottest women while forbidding them to have sex with their husbands. Like many gurus he believed that in accumulating semen and not releasing it, he was gaining more and more power spiritually. I guess it worked because he had hundreds of millions of followers.

But I'm pretty sure he never lived near an FKK, so his celibacy tests were limited. My goal would be to take him to the next level. I would bring him to Club Globe.

In my dream, we are both chilling out at the bar on FKK day, Gandhi in his loincloth and me in my robe and turban. Emanuela, who looks like a young Sofia Vergara, passes by swaying her ass lasciviously.

I say to Gandhi: "Hey, what an amazing ass. Why don't you go rub your dick all over that ass! Tell her you're famous, I bet she'll let you for free. ".

"Are you kidding, I'm a holy man. ".

"Oh yeah, I know, you haven't cum in thirty years, you don't want to lose control and spoil your record. Forget I said anything. ".

"I'm not afraid of losing control! Hold my alcohol-free beer. ".

So just to prove me wrong, Gandhi goes over and rubs his shrivelled little Indian dick all over the moons of Emanuela's delicious big round soft ass -- all without squirting.

At the end she tells him he is now obligated by the rules of the club to bring her to a room. Being a newbie he believes everything she says and is panicked by a dilemma of conscience. He finally says, "Uh, uh, go with Poly, I'll pay but I'll just watch. " But she sees more profit to be made in the newbie, so she grabs onto Gandhi's painfully swollen cock and leads him by it to a suite while he is thinking, "Ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod I'm Gandhi, this can not be happening!" Meanwhile I'm getting concerned because the test wasn't supposed to go this far. I'm don't want my buddy to hold it against me if he accidentally breaks his vow of brahmacharya. And what would happen to India?

In the room, Emanuela kneels and gives Gandhi a very wet slurpy blowjob while smiling and looking deeply into his eyes. She figures this excitable rube will CIM in 5 minutes and she will leave and claim the extra. What she doesn't count on is Gandhi's legendary self-control. He fills his mind with the mushroom clouds that will envelope Kashmir if he loses it, making a superhuman effort not to cum after 30 years of strict self-deprivation. He shudders like a bag of bones and his balls are as big as oranges but even after half an hour of intense tongue action, she can't tease out the white stuff. So she jumps onto him cowgirl, and squeezes her pussy muscles as tight as she can around him. "WTF," thinks Gandhi. "This is not what I signed up for!" But his iron will prevails and she still cannot make him cum, even after three hours of madly fucking him.

After his ordeal they go out to the lockers. He pulls out a satchel filled with rupees and pours it into her ample bosom. She starts screaming, "What the fuck is this money, it's as small as your dick. " -- then she grudgingly takes it after negotiating an exploitative exchange rate. But what she is really mad about is that he didn't cum the whole time, and she asks herself: "Am I getting wrinkles? ".

[Sirioja]

Good question Poly! I would bring Jesus, Mahatma Gandhi and Dalai Lama to Sharks 2016 spring. They are all already ready, don't even need to change to robes or towels. And as much as I don't like Sharks anymore, don't think there is any competition with the beginners wow factor with Sharks in its heyday of spring 2016 when they had the best looking and most service oriented girls with zero up selling. I might even book the upstairs VIP area for them for some group fun LOL.

Yes, Sharks was probably the best casting in Germany in 2015 until Easter 2016 when Karin and the legendary Katalina left, but fell down after Summer 2016 and even I found a real top class on June 2018 but she didn't want to work for Sharks business = mostly cheap 50 and everything asked. She left after 2 weeks but she didn't work on many days. Because I watched Spain versus Portugal, I missed her when she smiled on Friday, but breakfast together on Saturday, Sunday and next Friday. After our 1 real GFE hour for 100 with a classy, elegant, sophisticated, very woman type, 25 yo Romanian, she asked if I would repeat later? When I answered maybe, we will see, she stopped her day on Sunday and Friday after my only 100, when she had to pay 125 to work and sleep, she didn't want to work for 50 or even 100, but treating her like a woman and her orgasmus paid also, not only with her, not being asked for extra or girls returning, some even asking for again. A rare girl in this business, I didn't advice her Globe because not a place for her, more Aphro for her to be free to decide what she wants to provide.

Helli now silicon, reminds what was Sharks before, not only quantity. But beauties are more and more rare in Germany, compare to Switzerland.

[Mr Ho]

I suppose there is some middle ground between addiction and sex being food. Sex has been shown to be have healing properties. But a hobby can be addictive if everything around it takes it beyond the bare minimum you would need to get that health benefit.

Sex and lust is one of natural desire of humans, but sex / lust has been implanted (by many societies and religions etc.) to us as something that is dirty, unless sex / lust is conducted in certain forms whether it is relationship or marriage etc.

In a way, it is some kind of oppression because it is something we naturally desire as humans, but they try to restrict it for centuries using all kind of tools to denounce and restrict freedom of recreational sexual activities.

Well pro mongers has found good wise way around this for our own happiness.

For me, mongering is going to white sand beach or eating nice different kind of food that never expire.