German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Ortos]

You aren't serious, right?

Dahhhhh! Once spoken (or shouted?) by somebody born in Queens on the hallowed greens of Wimbledon: "You cannot be serious!"

[Neurosynth]

Maybe you forget something: These girls enjoy the illusion that Mr Ho is in love with them and will be their loyal lover like a husband or long-time partner. You go with other girls in front of them, it breaks this illusion and they get sad, mad and nasty!

This might seem obvious to some, but after years I've learned I always have to ask because you just never know.

You aren't serious, right?

[Takedown]

But I am not here this time to talk about whether monger is jealous or not, which would turn into another useless topic as we already saw many recently. I would like to make a point that a monger should use jealousy as a motivation tool to improve his mongering advantage. For instance, many American mongers here often complained about being in sex prison, but I never read here that any American monger talked about any idea of how to manage to move to any sex paradise like Germany permanently. And no monger here except me talked about how to improve his appearance so that he would be able to better compete for girl's attention and fondness. Jealousy happens to any monger, but we should use it as a motivational tool to better ourselves in terms of mongering, so that next time we would be in better position to compete for girls and girl's fondness. Try not to be a talker, thinker or even a doer, but try to be a finisher.

Instead what happens is that people blame external institutions for their limitations and some become convinced that their experience is universal. If I've never made a true connection with a WG, perhaps I too would insist that fkks are not places where true social interactions are possible. If I have never had a relationship with a woman at all, perhaps I too would think that ideas such as polyamorous free love would cure all of the world's problems. Perhaps I would give up entirely on romantic relationships and only pursue mongering activities.

As you say, frequency and long term prognosis from the girl's point of view are very important. When I had a relationship with a European working girl, I was basically living in Germany. Shortly after I returned to bimonthly visits, the relationship crumbled. For a guy who makes visits every other year, I would imagine that his viewpoint would be that FKK girls are all swindling hookers uninterested in real human interaction. If life at home gets tough, I would probably extend that viewpoint toward all women.

[ExpatLover]

I think it is more to do with money they could have make if I went with them, girls do their daily calculations. I do not think I give them that illusion, I am polite and friendly to them, but rather more blunt and businesslike to them in FKK because I know I am nothing, but a walking organic ATM to them LOL.

As for jealousy between guys, I heard it from girls, but I never seen it front of me. This is the thing, some monger forget that FKK is merely a type of brothel where it is all business.

For the girls we are ATM or customers, they sell their body, that is all, less they have to give more they can earn better is the Business but that is true in all the businesses starting from Apple.

[Pistons]

Try not to be a talker, thinker or even a doer, but try to be a finisher.

Talker and thinker not considerred, but we are discussing sex here and I personally much prefer the doing part as opposed to just jumping into the Finnish as soon as possible. But each to our own, LOL.

[Pistons]

"The only Zen you can find on the tops of mountains is the Zen you bring up there. ".

True, but once you get up there, one must orient him, or herself in accordance with the elements to create the best Feng shui.

[Bfsie]

On individual level, like in real life, in some time of his mongering career every monger (including me of course) can be jealous, but only when he has crush on the particular WGs. This kind of jealousy is only limited to the specific WGs whom he has crush on. Other than this type of jealousy, I don't think that mongers are jealous in general.

On institutional level, mongers sometimes do have jealousy stemmed from monger' geographical home base, financial status and so on. For example, some mongers living in USA may be jealous of the mongers living in Germany. Some mongers with less fortunate mongering budget may be jealous of well-funded mongers.

But I am not here this time to talk about whether monger is jealous or not, which would turn into another useless topic as we already saw many recently. I would like to make a point that a monger should use jealousy as a motivation tool to improve his mongering advantage. For instance, many American mongers here often complained about being in sex prison, but I never read here that any American monger talked about any idea of how to manage to move to any sex paradise like Germany permanently. And no monger here except me talked about how to improve his appearance so that he would be able to better compete for girl's attention and fondness. Jealousy happens to any monger, but we should use it as a motivational tool to better ourselves in terms of mongering, so that next time we would be in better position to compete for girls and girl's fondness. Try not to be a talker, thinker or even a doer, but try to be a finisher.

[Optimist]

Maybe you forget something: These girls enjoy the illusion that Mr Ho is in love with them and will be their loyal lover like a husband or long-time partner. You go with other girls in front of them, it breaks this illusion and they get sad, mad and nasty!

Many times I have suffered from girls whose illusions are broken. They know they are illusions, but still don't like to see them broken. I understand this: who doesn't like being seen as someone special?. Unless of course they realise that reality is illusion

[Optimist]

"The only Zen you can find on the tops of mountains is the Zen you bring up there. ".

+1. And also to Ortos's variation.

[Mr Ho]

Maybe you forget something: These girls enjoy the illusion that Mr Ho is in love with them and will be their loyal lover like a husband or long-time partner. You go with other girls in front of them, it breaks this illusion and they get sad, mad and nasty!

I think it is more to do with money they could have make if I went with them, girls do their daily calculations. I do not think I give them that illusion, I am polite and friendly to them, but rather more blunt and businesslike to them in FKK because I know I am nothing, but a walking organic ATM to them LOL.

As for jealousy between guys, I heard it from girls, but I never seen it front of me. This is the thing, some monger forget that FKK is merely a type of brothel where it is all business.

[Ortos]

This I agree totally, once you become regular to some girls and you go with other girls front of them, I have been asked why I went with such a such girl or what does she do in room to you or even worst girl who provided me good service withhold some services in room after I went to other girls. I mean I do not mind if girls go with other guys, it is brothel, but what wrong with these girls as I am the only organic ATM machine who only belong to her LOL. It is FKK both clients and girls are free to go with anyone we want to go to room with.

Maybe you forget something: These girls enjoy the illusion that Mr Ho is in love with them and will be their loyal lover like a husband or long-time partner. You go with other girls in front of them, it breaks this illusion and they get sad, mad and nasty!

[Ortos]

"The only Zen you can find on the tops of mountains is the Zen you bring up there. ".

Or perhaps this:

"The Zen you take is only equal to the Zen you make."

[Takedown]

Not going to happen for somebody so clearly consumed by his own anger. That only leads to self-destruction. Coming back under a new handle changes nothing.

Hello sir,

Seems a bit hyperbolic of a description when someone is writing with even keel responses. But to your point, disgust and pity rather than hate are more accurate descriptors. Hope to see you in a club!

[Chongmal]

Is everyone else getting an additional tab opening up for the escort site signup when clicking on the login box for ISG. It was shocking for the family with kids sitting behind me when the full tablet sized naked lady was displayed. I don't mind the smaller ads, I quickly hide them before others can see, but the full page ad is a little much.

[Chongmal]

FKK is merely a type of brothel, it is not real and as Mr Piston pointed out, even though it is minority, I see quite few in forum and it can be dangerous thing for girls and to FKK industry. These girls are prostitute and in exchange for money clients pay, they sell bit of truth, mostly lies and most importantly sex to you, this is what going on FKK and there is no real communication or socializing going there beside business transactions, dialogue to it and sex.

Mr Ho,

I enjoyed this more serious side to your posting. I would like to post out the FKK as discussed here is a twisted version of the term, borrowed by the sex industry. In my posts I typically refer to this version as FKK / Sauna Club. The FKK Industry is based on a nudist naturist lifestyle. It's actually quite a large industry but is more like a Centre Parcs for nudists. Even if you go to Termae 2000 or a similar Spa you are likely to see some naked female bodies that will take weeks to erase from your mind, and not in a good way. The advantage of such spas are that the wellness facilities are at a much higher level, unless sexual gratification is the wellness aspect you are seeking.

Fortunately for mongers, the Sex Industry version of FKK / Sauna Clubs exist and most of the women visiting are 18 - 30 years old and somewhat attractive. This is not always the case in a true FKK.