German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Kuni042]

LOL. But you are right, some my not appreciate this. But this is what it is. I tipp every now and then a 10 or 20 e too, if service was really memorable.

And how many ladies will be grateful for that kind of tip? Not many I bet. Why don't you grant them additional tips by telling them they don't need to comb their hair nor renew their make up? Another tip would be for you to spread the sheets on the bed yourself and dispose of the sheets afterwards.

[XXL]

As I am a into safer sex (98% of the time), my tipp is that the ladies don't need to shower / clean / rinse as much- saves them 10 - 15 min each session....

And how many ladies will be grateful for that kind of tip? Not many I bet. Why don't you grant them additional tips by telling them they don't need to comb their hair nor renew their make up? Another tip would be for you to spread the sheets on the bed yourself and dispose of the sheets afterwards.

[Chongmal]

Are we sure about that? How many posters actually do? Or admit to doing so?

Look at some of the most frequent posters here and see if we can confirm if they are over payers.

Chongmal? No

So really, how can we qualify EastGoing's assertion that most board members here unnecessarily splash money?

Definitely not by overpaying. As far as doing long rooms at club rate, well it's club rate and you're paying the fair price.

I will weigh in and say for my favorites I do spoil them a bit. Not by paying over standard rates but I've been known to conduct a pancake session, but not with all ladies. ATM there are two ladies I pancake, one more frequently than I should.

Often times with a new lady I will be 30 min and out for €50. A really nice new lady may get an extension to 60 min. The ones who act proper after that get repeat sessions. Some expect an automatic promotion to pancake material but that is a privilege earned.

[Kuni042]

As I am a into safer sex (98% of the time), my tipp is that the ladies don't need to shower / clean / rinse as much- saves them 10 - 15 min each session.

I was thinking of switching my screen name / handle to SaferSex. Not sure if this can be done easily. Because this describes me best.

Many mongers don't realize that using about 80% of a session time or a little overpaying is the form of tipping. When you go to restaurant, hair salon or any other type of service business in Germany, you usually need tipping for its service, although the amount is not as much as in America percentage-wise. Sex business in Germany is not exceptional and there are three ways of tipping: using around 80%% of session time, a little overpaying and actual tip. If you don't do one of these 3 forms of tipping, you can usually expect that next time the WG wouldn't give you as good service as this time, just like the waitress of a restaurant wouldn't serve you good if you didn't tip her last time you were there.

In some tourist FKK clubs like the clubs in Frankfurt area, the WGs force you to pay tips by shortening your session to around 80% of session time or imposing extra or upselling to you. This is just like the restaurants in the tourist areas of the USA add the tips to customers' bills so that the tips become mandatory even if foreign customers don't want to pay it because they know that their visits would be their last visits there.




Kosher Kowboy,

I read here that you have some experience of using viagra from India. I have been using Suhagra made by Cipla in India for several years and had good experience with it until recent shipment which seems to be not as strong as used to (I guess maybe due to the competition and every manufacturer needs to cut cost and make its price competitive). My questions to you are: Have you tried to use more than 100 MG Indian viagra per time when you found it impotent? What is the cause of their impotence you think? Is it because of not enough quantity or other reason? Thank you.

[Horny Harry]

Be prepared, it might be more difficult to get cash in Germany in the coming week (s) due to the security van driver strike. Personally, if this becomes a problem, I would drive to Venlo or Roermond over the Dutch border to get cash. Obviously not as practical if clubbing in Frankfurt.

https://www.apnews.com/adad52b472ec409db9d040f9d39649b0

Yikes. What's the best option if one is flying into Frankfurt?

May I say that I think that this is typical scaremongering from a (US?) tourist that doesn't live in Germany, and doesn't speak the language (not able to read newspapers, internet sites or watch the 8 o'clock news), and therefore have a very limited (Google Translate + US websites) idea of what's going on?

In the medium city (150 k inhabitants) where I live there are no problems, are plenty of banks, plenty of cash machines, no queues. Nothing (as of yet!) in the news, no friends or colleagues have heard about this, nor are they withdrawing extra cash.

Perhaps a strike is planned, but things will not immediately come to a grinding halt and it's hardly a reason to panic and plan to rent a car so you can "drive to Venlo or Roermond to get cash."

[Bfsie]

Many mongers don't realize that using about 80% of a session time or a little overpaying is the form of tipping. When you go to restaurant, hair salon or any other type of service business in Germany, you usually need tipping for its service, although the amount is not as much as in America percentage-wise. Sex business in Germany is not exceptional and there are three ways of tipping: using around 80%% of session time, a little overpaying and actual tip. If you don't do one of these 3 forms of tipping, you can usually expect that next time the WG wouldn't give you as good service as this time, just like the waitress of a restaurant wouldn't serve you good if you didn't tip her last time you were there.

In some tourist FKK clubs like the clubs in Frankfurt area, the WGs force you to pay tips by shortening your session to around 80% of session time or imposing extra or upselling to you. This is just like the restaurants in the tourist areas of the USA add the tips to customers' bills so that the tips become mandatory even if foreign customers don't want to pay it because they know that their visits would be their last visits there.




Kosher Kowboy,

I read here that you have some experience of using viagra from India. I have been using Suhagra made by Cipla in India for several years and had good experience with it until recent shipment which seems to be not as strong as used to (I guess maybe due to the competition and every manufacturer needs to cut cost and make its price competitive). My questions to you are: Have you tried to use more than 100 MG Indian viagra per time when you found it impotent? What is the cause of their impotence you think? Is it because of not enough quantity or other reason? Thank you.

[Takedown]

Well as you say, the most frequent posters here don't overpay. Although some tend to do far more than the minimum pay. Less frequent posters on the other hand seems to pay a bit more it seems. But I suppose the question is a bit misleading. I would rather say people spending 200-1000 on a girl on one night is making it cheaper for the ones of us who sometimes just pay minimum. Overpaying or adding extras / extending time. The later is far more relevant. The first portion is no doubt dangerous and not good. But the later part can be. I guess I should have been more clear.

As for tipping, of course people even in Germany tip. All over Europe people tip. But instead of 20-30% tip like in USA, it is more standard to just tip 10%. That goes for all of Europe, and not just Germany. But there is of course the standard rules related to tipping, and it is all about service.

First, 20-30% is not standard tipping in America. 15-20% is standard in the food service industry while 10% or less is standard in other industries. The food service standard is only so high because food servers are only paid $2.13 per hour, a low minimum mandated by federal law. Some municipalities and states such as California and New York have a higher minimum; but nationally, a restaurant only has to pay its wait staff $2. 13 per hour. Point is, the American over tipping stereotype is overblown when compared to German and British standards. Perhaps it is true when compared to cheap French and Dutch but not that exaggerated compared to fiscally responsible Germans. I would say that 10-12% is probably closer to standard when considering all industries across the board, not that much different than the European standard you suggest.

Second, paying for extras and extending time should not have any negative attachments whatsoever and people who enjoy long rooms should not be ostracized for doing so. If anything, the minimum 50 euro sessioners should be made to re-examine his priorities if the priority to minimize expense is greater than the priority to maximize pleasure when participating in an extravagant hobby. Some people like to keep metrics on spending such as price per room, price per finish, or price per number of different girls. I find less value in that. What's more important for me is something that you cannot easily objectively place a metric: enjoyment of time spent to cost ratio. By that metric, guys who prioritize the finish above all else are basically paying 50 euro for 10 seconds of pleasure, a please poor metric.

I'm going to nerd out and measure it out this way: Pleasure points per euro spent. If a guy aims to finish all rooms in 30 minutes, he probably really prioritizes the finish. So let's say his enjoyment points are 5 points per minute for the first 29 minutes and 10 points during the last minute when he finishes. That's 155 pleasure points for 50 euro for an average of 3.1 pleasure points per euro spent. Compare that to the 60 minute guy who enjoys kissing, foreplay, and body caresses much more than the 30 minute guy; he enjoys 8 pleasure points for 59 minutes and 10 points in the last minute of finishing. That's 482 pleasure points for 100 euro for an average of 4.82 pleasure points per euro spent. Using that metric or a less crude formula close to it, the one hour guy is getting a hell of a better deal than the 50 euro minimalist, 155% better to be exact.

[Sirioja]

Well as you say, the most frequent posters here don't overpay. Although some tend to do far more than the minimum pay. Less frequent posters on the other hand seems to pay a bit more it seems. But I suppose the question is a bit misleading. I would rather say people spending 200-1000 on a girl on one night is making it cheaper for the ones of us who sometimes just pay minimum. Overpaying or adding extras / extending time. The later is far more relevant. The first portion is no doubt dangerous and not good. But the later part can be. I guess I should have been more clear.

As for tipping, of course people even in Germany tip. All over Europe people tip. But instead of 20-30% tip like in USA, it is more standard to just tip 10%. That goes for all of Europe, and not just Germany. But there is of course the standard rules related to tipping, and it is all about service.

Several studies have been made regarding tipping also in Europe. For example one found out that if the waitress had a flower in her hair, she got more tip. Another one showed that smiling helped greatly. A third one showed that if she wore a name tag, she got more in tip because it made the waitress service more personal. So it goes to show that if the service personnel manage to create positive impulses, they get more tip, and the customers are less likely to get angry even if the food was bad. Because the service personnel is no longer a robot you can scream at. He or she has feelings too. And every service job is basically the same. The service personnel have to sell themselves. And we all tip because we like to encourage this type of personal behavior.

I hate to speak about money with girls, making me think about grocery for sex, I hate upselling, killing my illusion, I left rooms with Luci or Mady who was my GF at History Basel Liestal and never repeated, I never tip, my only tip is to repeat as long I enjoy, but I don't think all girls worth same rate. I hate to spend 50 or 100 for a average room with a GND, I prefer to pay more expensive for a beauty at Palace and for excellence at Globe, when Germany is down for me at the moment. I like what I felt on last Friday, when I was disappointed because of bad snow for my ski plus one more injury, so I preferred to give up, waiting for better snow, so I returned to Globe. After watching Bormio and Semmering. At, I saw a desirable 27 yo Hungarian, 1 rare exceptional hour, 260 € , and as soon we finished shower and kissing after I paid, I felt I wanted her again. Great feeling, when I m not interested just to fuck a piece of meat.

I prefer to pay more expensive for better quality, but also have to make the girl gives You quality, willing to please you.

[Sirioja]

Yup. But I only experienced aggressive behaviour (pulling aside, upselling) with africans.

When I visited PHG on 2016 for my model type, early on day, some black girls were starting working and hassling for business when I m really not into black girls. I remember one real model type at Sharks, really pretty, very smiling, but I couldn't go to her. She was quite busy.

[Pistons]

Are we sure about that? How many posters actually do? Or admit to doing so?

Look at some of the most frequent posters here and see if we can confirm if they are over payers.

Kosher Kowboy? No.

Sirioja? No.

Chongmai? No.

Pistons? No.

Nik? No.

McAdonis? Certainly not..

Well as you say, the most frequent posters here don't overpay. Although some tend to do far more than the minimum pay. Less frequent posters on the other hand seems to pay a bit more it seems. But I suppose the question is a bit misleading. I would rather say people spending 200-1000 on a girl on one night is making it cheaper for the ones of us who sometimes just pay minimum. Overpaying or adding extras / extending time. The later is far more relevant. The first portion is no doubt dangerous and not good. But the later part can be. I guess I should have been more clear.

As for tipping, of course people even in Germany tip. All over Europe people tip. But instead of 20-30% tip like in USA, it is more standard to just tip 10%. That goes for all of Europe, and not just Germany. But there is of course the standard rules related to tipping, and it is all about service.

Several studies have been made regarding tipping also in Europe. For example one found out that if the waitress had a flower in her hair, she got more tip. Another one showed that smiling helped greatly. A third one showed that if she wore a name tag, she got more in tip because it made the waitress service more personal. So it goes to show that if the service personnel manage to create positive impulses, they get more tip, and the customers are less likely to get angry even if the food was bad. Because the service personnel is no longer a robot you can scream at. He or she has feelings too. And every service job is basically the same. The service personnel have to sell themselves. And we all tip because we like to encourage this type of personal behavior.

[Takedown]

Yikes. What's the best option if one is flying into Frankfurt?

I say get cash at airport ATMs just case this amounts to a real issue.

[TankTank123]

Yup. But I only experienced aggressive behaviour (pulling aside, upselling) with africans.

In my experience, the Africans at Babylon have never been aggressive.

[Kuni042]

Yup. But I only experienced aggressive behaviour (pulling aside, upselling) with africans.

Usually at Bab Elsdorf. I remember also at PHG on day, quite aggressive behavior.

[Kuni042]

Ah. First time I hear about it. I checked out several german newspapers, and the Banks are all saying "don't worry, there will be plenty of cash". There maybe a few ATM affected. Ie less than 5%. I got today my cash for my weekend adventures without a problem. Grin.

Be prepared, it might be more difficult to get cash in Germany in the coming week (s) due to the security van driver strike. Personally, if this becomes a problem, I would drive to Venlo or Roermond over the Dutch border to get cash. Obviously not as practical if clubbing in Frankfurt.

https://www.apnews.com/adad52b472ec409db9d040f9d39649b0

[Kuni042]

I have been to Salome 3-4 times last year and there maybe 1-2 girls on average.

Golden Time had a decent collection: about 2-3 on each of my visits. Sometimes even 4. Rachel is a good-looking part-timer (she is a full-time nurse apprentice) from cologne. You can always call the front desk in any club, and GT didnt lie to me.

On the other hand, Magnum & Salome front desk did lie to me, just to get me into the club.. So i am cautious with them.

Pascha in Cologne had a full floor of colored ladies. From Africa. But those I would avoid, as they only upsell the whole time. I also believe they arent there anymore.

Duisburg RLD has at least 4-5 spread across various houses

In Germany again for the next few weeks. Was in a few of the NWR clubs last month and never once have seen anything other than white Bulgarian / Romanian girls.

Any black gals in any of the clubs?

Thanks.