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12-20-18 00:12 #12611
Posts: 972Originally Posted by Shark16 [View Original Post]Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/pisos...ma-100-f3.html
These girls will do cheap halfs and hours, many are very pretty and just about all BBBJ and I hear many will go ' sin goma' as well. If you look in this section in the link below you will find the ones offering specials that day, usually any girl in ' that piso' will match it. Specials can be found here.
https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/promo...1685-i932.html#post2509966.
The sexomercado site takes a while to figure out how to navigate but it is one of the best boards I have ever come across but it does take work to hunt down girls but 75% of the girls I sent WhatsApps too ' under 100 e' replied within minutes with availability on the spot if not their friends were ready. Most are concentrated in the heart of things very easy to get to by METRO or taxi.
However, I find no fault with Steve's decision in Barcelona, Felinas offers a factor of ease and no research and it is there for guys who just want to have fun and yes there is a premium to be paid but the plus side is no work required. Walk in, pick from a LU and be happy. The places like Felinas are also much nicer and cleaner inside than cheaper alternatives.
I miss Spain it really is a great place to go but it isn't Germany and there are no places with filthy couches that girls sit on and get their pussies vashed all day long.
For the higher end places like Scandalo, Vive and Pigmallion a great source of info would probably be PayforIt; I think he has been to them and more than once, certainly much more up to date with prices than I.
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12-19-18 22:19 #12610
Posts: 2732Originally Posted by Shark16 [View Original Post]
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12-19-18 22:12 #12609
Posts: 811Originally Posted by MrHo [View Original Post]
This is bad when the product is a web page, but tragic when the product is a woman.
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12-19-18 22:02 #12608
Posts: 811Originally Posted by Shark16 [View Original Post]
In fact I just paid 60 E for a session with a 23-year old art student from Argentina, and she did everything, and blew my mind.
There are some business-minded guys on the forum who will tell you, "You get what you pay for." There is a certain appeal to this concept. It would make life a lot simpler if it were true. But in this area of life, things are more complicated. If you pay too much you will be considered an idiot, and the service could actually be much worse.
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12-19-18 20:53 #12607
Posts: 2981Originally Posted by Shark16 [View Original Post]
Anyone possessing a smart phone and being intelligent enough to roll on a condom should be able to do this, but in spite of how often many of us post information of where to get the best service from the youngest, hottest ladies at the most competitive prices in Spain, a truly amazing number of guys say that this is just too complicated and they go to the most tourist-friendly walk-in brothels that have the highest prices if you purchase upsell a-la-carte services. To each his own, of course, but Germany is quite different than many other countries in that it strives to make the scene very public and open. A person can go to google maps, type in Frankfurt Airport as a starting point, and an FKK such as Oase or Palace or Sharks as the destination, and learn how to get to the front door via public transportation. Once a guy is at the front door, someone there will speak to him in English and lead him straight to a locker room, then to a working girl, who will lead him to a room where she will even roll the condom on for him.
With that few barriers to entry for a guy willing to invest no time and effort, especially if he is in Frankfurt on the company dime, I doubt that he is going to join the effort to keep prices down by refusing to pay 100 euros instead of 50.
The South American posters on ISG can be assholes, but they can be pretty savvy. The biggest barrier to entry for the low-price, high quality, areas in South America is the lack of English speaking by many of the ladies, and those posters can be damn unpleasant when suggestions are made that bridges be built to allow English-only speakers to more easily access the markets. They know that too many "gringos" can mess up their pricing, so they want a system that creates a huge barrier to entry. Learning Spanish or Portuguese in spoken form.
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12-19-18 19:55 #12606
Posts: 1357Originally Posted by Optimist [View Original Post]
Germany is known for its fixed price and no tipping necessary culture. Even if they are moving somewhat away from the fixed price policy in p4p, the German culture to stick to the fixed prices is very strong. Germans want quality for their bucks. Why not simply adapt to this when in Germany? Why pay more than standard rate for p4 p? If hotels are cheaper in Germany than in your home country, would you be likely to overpay the same way? Or for a burger at McD? It simply does not make sense to overpay in p4 p. Furthermore; it is not necessary. There are always great goodlooking girls that provide great service at standard rates. Let's reward them with our money rather than the scammers.
Steve9696: USD 230/60 in Spain? Which club? I know Spain a little bit (I. E. Barcelona), and 230/60 is overpaying. Normal brothel rate is 80- 160 E /60 for a quality time (DFK / BBBJ / DATY / MPOS CFS included) with a goodlooking girl. I have also visited places in Barcelona that charge 200- 300 E /60 for the same services, and I have to say there is very little correlation between quality and money spent. Higher end places in Barcelona are usually tourist/rip-off places (with a few exceptions). Of course, I am aware of (but never visited) Vive in Madrid and some places in CDS with a LU possibly so good that they, like Swiss Clubs, can defend a higher rate. But those clubs are rare and not the norm.
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12-19-18 19:18 #12605
Posts: 582To Bonsai
I forgot to give you my advice: take her as a girlfriend... And let her support you! LOL! If you have problems taking her home, leave her where she is! Love can resist distance ;-D.
P.S. Don't worry about being considered a pimp. Whoever stays with someone is supposed to share earnings and help each other, actually normally is the man supporting the woman, and that's not considered a crime or anything bad. So, not to discriminate women, they must be allowed to do the same: you man may stay home ironing and washing the dishes, or get a cleaner and pay for that. Then instead of beauty salon and gym, you go to play darts or golf. A normal couple where one works and the other one is supported. If your woman was a famous singer, or a lawyer, or a manager, would it be considered bad if you lived at her expenses?
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12-19-18 17:51 #12604
Posts: 582What I meant, without meaning to tackle anyone, was that I don't see why somebody should feel pity for these girls or justify their freaks. And I say it out of my career of loving at various degrees many prostitutes of all colour, origin, rank, etc.
Generally speaking about them, not just about FKK's ones, the only allowance I can do is about going with men they don't like, the smell, the sweat, the flavours, but for the rest of the things? I am envious with any woman: they can have as much sex as they like and can do whatever they want in their life without any worry by just spreading their mouths / legs, and be honoured like queens by bunches of stupid wankers dying after them while maybe contemporarily insulting their wives or reproaching their secretaries / saleswomen / waitresses / whatever job a woman working under a man can do.
What would I do if I lost my job? And while working I have to follow rules, have problems, can not travel, etc. If a woman is not so stupid to get a pimp, can't she do like many escorts do, travelling the world for instance without arguing, struggling, etc. ?
About the fact of them living in Germany at german prices... Even without considering the chance to sleep and eat in clubs... Also the workers in the night shifts of the factories live in Germany, pay a rent, support children (who stay in Germany, not in Romania!), pay taxes I guess higher than 25 euros a day, etc.
All the foreign people working abroad on a local normal / lower salary (think of those walking the streets selling umbrellars when it is raining for instance, or trying to sell the roses to couples on promenades) make huge sacrifices to spare a few tens of euros to send home.
When I was young I worked in England and I had to spare money for months to buy a 50 pounds broken down bike to be able to cycle home instead of walking (or begging for a lift to colleagues) 4 kms back to my 4 square meter room in the night after working even shifts of 16 hours.
When I am in Germany I too pay my expenses, but out of my salary, which doesn't consist of sure hundreds of euros per day. Some girls won't break even occasionally in a given day? It happens to many entrepreneurs, restaurants, pub, plumbers, car dealers, shops, etc.
But what do these girls risk? The goods they bought will go taunted? Will expire? Will remain unsold in store? Any woman, even the ugliest one, can take money out of a man if she wants: I use to say that you cannot refuse to anyone to suck your dick!
Those precious princesses who upsell the air you breath together, if end up earning "little", have to blame themselves! And must not receive any mercy or solidarity, especially by the men they mistreat/abuse/cheat/exploitate
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12-19-18 16:19 #12603
Posts: 2207It has never been a fixed price and it's still totally possible to have good sex for 50 € each 30 min if you choose the good clubs and don't act like a wimp.
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12-19-18 15:40 #12602
Posts: 2732But FKK is Not Fixed Price
Originally Posted by Optimist [View Original Post]
Again, I don't want to overpay and try not to but since individuals reference frames are different so are their decisions.
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12-19-18 14:59 #12601
Posts: 4343Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
More to the point for me is that in my experience the girls giving the best service are those who don't upsell, ask for tips, restrict time and so on. More money equals less service?
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12-19-18 14:35 #12600
Posts: 4343So if I go to a concert in a country where concerts are cheap I should pay 50 per cent over the normal price because in my home country it is more expensive?
I prefer to act according to local culture (provided of course its norms are no less ethical than those of my home country)
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12-19-18 06:41 #12599
Posts: 465Originally Posted by EastGoing [View Original Post]
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12-19-18 06:25 #12598
Posts: 1138Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
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12-19-18 05:54 #12597
Posts: 6730Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
A second way is taking the 1 h hour option if she includes one more extra as a bundle deal. Or even negotiating a 45 minute session.
But paying double price for the same thing just screams scam. And you don't want to do this because.
1. It means the girl doesn't really like you, and you don't want to pay a girl who doesn't even like you. Neighter do you want to bed her no matter her looks! Have some dignity! And.
2. It is unfair to the other girls who does not ask for double price. Why would you pay them even less? Would you give one of your son's a car as a birthday present, but the second son would just get a coffecup?
The very instant people agree to unreasonable upselling, the pandora's box is open. That is why I would much rather see an across the board 10 e price hike in Germany (except artemis and hamburg), which is fair to everyone. And also cap the number of girls in a club. At a reasonable level ofcourse. And rather have the clubs pose military level demands on the girls working there. For example a minimum and maximum of bodyfat percentage and height to weight ratio combination. With only high optics as a way around this! And maybe a running demand to test stamina (LOL). All military personell needs to do this, so it is not expecting too much. Even professional horse jockeys have requirements like this, and that is extremely relevant considering the riding. Hirr!