German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Mr Ho]

I do agree with MR Ho on line up at Globe. I went there one time on Tuesday without any room. I did not see any 8 above girls. The club is somewhat dark inside. Food was ok, Wellness was ok too. However, to make a 10 plus hours in there can be hard.

The thing is I had too much of high expectation, so it is my bad too. Now that I look back, I did not see many plastic monsters or overly fat girls etc at globe that german FKK has to cater to certain clients who seeks for that, which is not me.

I will give it another try on week days again because service was as good as I heard, it is just that I had too much of high expectation for line up due to its high reputation. I mostly saw 7 and 7.5 and I did not see many 6 or lower for optic of girls, so I still have hope that it is worth the visit club if one is feeling bit sick and tired of negotiation in german FKK after the law.

[DaWong949]

I have been once also, I was impressed with service because it is exactly as its reputation and my expectation was filled, food on Sunday brunch was good and value for money as I went on Sunday, but line up was not good as I expected and there were about 20 girls max during my visit.

However, my expectation for line up was too good prior to going to globe and being there on Sunday actually also affected line up I think, to look back there were no fat girl or girl who are below 6 in scale of 10. But I did not see any 8, 9 or 10 I only saw mostly 7 or 7.5 in optical level, but again I was there on Sunday from opening time till like around 4 pm, but globe is day time club, so I believe all line up would be there by 4 pm?

It is hard club to stay whole day as only out side area is roof area, which I kind of like if it is empty to chill out. Other thing I did not like is that some rooms are bit too dark, so hard to see girls.

I would return for normal weekdays again to see if line up would be better at globe.

However, some German FKK begin to offer 100 euro per 30 min session for DFK, BBBJ etc, to avoid annoying killing mood negotiation and not secure service delivery, it maybe wise to throw in globe for mongering trip.

I do agree with MR Ho on line up at Globe. I went there one time on Tuesday without any room. I did not see any 8 above girls. The club is somewhat dark inside. Food was ok, Wellness was ok too. However, to make a 10 plus hours in there can be hard.

[Vrsabien]

Can anyone list which FFK they know off where no phones are allowed?

I know most in Cologne don't allow but where else.

Between sessions I need to surf net for whatvever reason and just get bored with no internet.

[Takedown]

I don't know Wellcum, and I've only made 10 or so visits to Sharks, but I've been many times to Oase and Globe. One difference between Globe and Oase / Sharks is that some optical filtering is applied to prospective workers. There's the odd one at Globe that seems a bit plus sized, but nothing like the scale of that huge Asian woman at Sharks. Age filters are also applied to new girls, but there are a few long-termers at Globe who won't see 39 again.

IMHO the average optic level is higher at Globe, but I think the top handful of girls (optically) is similar at most big clubs I've been to in Germany or in Globe.

Ah I see. Basically my impression too. The top 3-5 girls are similar in quality. There just are no 4's and 5's bringing down the average. So basically, not worth a revisit for me at that price point.

[Mr Ho]

Any posters here go to Globe? I've been once and was not impressed but does anyone besides Sirioja have an opinion comparing the line up in comparison to a club like Oase, Sharks, or Wellcum?

I have been once also, I was impressed with service because it is exactly as its reputation and my expectation was filled, food on Sunday brunch was good and value for money as I went on Sunday, but line up was not good as I expected and there were about 20 girls max during my visit.

However, my expectation for line up was too good prior to going to globe and being there on Sunday actually also affected line up I think, to look back there were no fat girl or girl who are below 6 in scale of 10. But I did not see any 8, 9 or 10 I only saw mostly 7 or 7.5 in optical level, but again I was there on Sunday from opening time till like around 4 pm, but globe is day time club, so I believe all line up would be there by 4 pm?

It is hard club to stay whole day as only out side area is roof area, which I kind of like if it is empty to chill out. Other thing I did not like is that some rooms are bit too dark, so hard to see girls.

I would return for normal weekdays again to see if line up would be better at globe.

However, some German FKK begin to offer 100 euro per 30 min session for DFK, BBBJ etc, to avoid annoying killing mood negotiation and not secure service delivery, it maybe wise to throw in globe for mongering trip.

[Samplerr]

Any posters here go to Globe? I've been once and was not impressed but does anyone besides Sirioja have an opinion comparing the line up in comparison to a club like Oase, Sharks, or Wellcum?

I don't know Wellcum, and I've only made 10 or so visits to Sharks, but I've been many times to Oase and Globe. One difference between Globe and Oase / Sharks is that some optical filtering is applied to prospective workers. There's the odd one at Globe that seems a bit plus sized, but nothing like the scale of that huge Asian woman at Sharks. Age filters are also applied to new girls, but there are a few long-termers at Globe who won't see 39 again.

IMHO the average optic level is higher at Globe, but I think the top handful of girls (optically) is similar at most big clubs I've been to in Germany or in Globe.

[Takedown]

Any posters here go to Globe? I've been once and was not impressed but does anyone besides Sirioja have an opinion comparing the line up in comparison to a club like Oase, Sharks, or Wellcum?

[Mr Ho]

To me it seems they also focus heavily on cash and the criminal element in or behind the scenes of a club. If they find suspicious clues, they can use health code violations, facility deficiencies, etc to justify repeated return visits. Once a club is on the naughty list it seems a long process to work their way off.

Artemis is one of or one of very few club that has in house medical doctor and treatment room, so for medical hygiene level it was good. As for pimping, owner was not involved in it as far as I know, but it was not like FKK ocean where they have big sign at the reception saying certain bike gang are not welcome etc.

I think it was more for unpaid tax and social benefit, plus some politicians wanted to appeal themselves to female and certain voters of Berlin. I was client of Artemis from 2009 till 2015 and I never experienced or saw anything media wrote about Artemis, they wrote Artemis as some kind of horror place. I mean it was not, it was most prompt brothel I have ever seen up until that time beside some up selling LOL.

[UltraHappy]

So they said. That is the professed reason for pretty much all checks. The real reasons for focussing on a particular club or locality are less clear.

Yes, and according to Professor Thomas Zacker who consults for these sorts of businesses, the police have a multitude of tools at their disposal that they typically employ during their controls (immigration, illegal drugs, administrative violations, tax issues, commercial right violations, customs, etc.). https://www.donacarmen.de/wp-content...onsgewerbe.pdf.

Given that a control will often involve checks for many of these issues, the police can be quite effective in making difficulties for these business when they wish.

[Chongmal]

So they said. That is the professed reason for pretty much all checks. The real reasons for focussing on a particular club or locality are less clear.

To me it seems they also focus heavily on cash and the criminal element in or behind the scenes of a club. If they find suspicious clues, they can use health code violations, facility deficiencies, etc to justify repeated return visits. Once a club is on the naughty list it seems a long process to work their way off.

[Mr Ho]

Yes, but they can be appealed. After reading the article about the Artemis article I think it was done to go after illegal immigration.

I think it was done to go after unpaid tax and social securities more than other things artemis owners were accused of.

I also read funny article somewhere that former mayor of German cities young wife once worked in Artemis, which could be true as back in the days, I used to find quite many normal German hotties working there especially in over their summer vacations. Now Artemis is nest for plastic monsters with graffiti all over their body.

[Optimist]

Yes, but they can be appealed. After reading the article about the Artemis article I think it was done to go after illegal immigration.

So they said. That is the professed reason for pretty much all checks. The real reasons for focussing on a particular club or locality are less clear.

[Mr Ho]

I read something that said Planet Eden, I think, had closed and as of 30 July it's listed for sale. The article stated the issues were related to neighbors complaining, police being called to resolve issues between men and between men and WGs.

I know that Living Room struggles with the authorities, and part of the problems are related to similar issues as referenced in the article. One issue was the requirement for alarms, another is for additional separate showers for the women, lockers / safes for the womens valuables, etc. This has had a huge impact on the business causing the closure of several rooms and costly modifications. I think we still wait to see most of the modifications be realized and there I feel there is a risk that the costs to become compliant may outweigh the benefits.

Knowing the location of living room, I do understand if there is complaint by neighbors LOL.

If I live there as teenagers, as soon as I become legal age, I will knock on the door of living room as a customer LOL It is right in resident district of normal houses after going through some warehouses.

[BaltiX]

My last report is misleading. I forgot to say that clubs can, under the new law, be refused by the local authority licences to operate.

UltraHappy has posted an excellent link under the Artemis thread which gives a longterm look at the travails of Artemis and the attempts by authorities to get rid of it.

Yes, but they can be appealed. After reading the article about the Artemis article I think it was done to go after illegal immigration.

[ExpatLover]

My last report is misleading. I forgot to say that clubs can, under the new law, be refused by the local authority licences to operate.

UltraHappy has posted an excellent link under the Artemis thread which gives a longterm look at the travails of Artemis and the attempts by authorities to get rid of it.

At any time the local authorities can close a club and believe me it will happen in the coming years, the German women are upset by this so easy sex and putting big pressure on political.