German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Mr Ho]

And wanting to avoid any kind of mistake is a mistake in itself. What is a mistake anyway?

What happens in Brothel stays in Brothel and we monger have to act like tute ourselves, as dirty as it can get.

[Mr Ho]

Hi,

I will be visiting FKK clubs everyday for a week next week. I use Viagra for ED right now. Does anyone know if I should switch to Cialis instead as I have heard it lasts longer.

Worst case, I can take a couple of Viagras a day, but don't want to overdose.

Would Cialis be better to be able to perform for an entire day and recover faster?

Thanks.

I fixed my dick problem as I developed mild ED after second cum session at about third room in FKK and also I used Jaanese crazy masturbation so much that I got used to it.

What I do still is that first session I can go without any pill, but for second session since I do not want to risk it, I cut cialis into 4 and I consume it to have full steroid penis anytime I want so I can destroy girls pussy in room with my steroid penis at anytime I wish even she kills the mood with upselling then she is going to get my steroid hardcore doggy style punishment powered by cialis.

Any side affect is that after third day of taking quarter pill of cialis, I get mild red eyes and mild head aches, but nothing significant, plus point beside steroid penis at anytime of the day in FKK is that your tension on neck and shoulder tend to go away with cialis for me due to better blood flow.

It supposed to have peak period of 3 hours after consuming cialis, but for me, it works within 10 to 15 min not even after consuming it. I opt for cialis and with it I can do about 5 to 7 times room per day like I used to when I was in my late 20's when I began doing FKK trip.

[Pistons]

5. Body oriented: I have an abnormal fixation with the body, so this affects point one above. Face almost does not matter. It's not the tautness of skin or physical fitness and tone of the body, but the shape and relative proportions. This means I can occasionally be visually attracted to MILFs.

LOL, at least you know about it yourself. Anyway, I am trending towards that direction myself too. The other points you mention I have checked of for a long time. But the trending away from face towards body and proportions exclusively is something I wonder comes with years of experience of sex in clubs. One doesn't have sex with a face, one has sex with a body, and proportions are so important. Hence why I prefer normally below around 1.63, with the odd exceptions like Samia at GT (1.70 or so). But those tall girls with great proportions are very rare. Shorter girls, for me all the way down to 1.52 is fine, good proportions comes so much easier. I suppose these preferences may change dependant on ones own height as well.

If one just hangs around a girl in life elsewhere, and only sees her face most of the time with clothes on, then sure I can see people may start thinking face is more important, but in a way it is like an optical illusion. Like certain birds displays with feathers that ain't worth shit. When that is said, a cute face can be a bonus too. But only a bonus. After the main proportions are set. Now, I suppose people also disagree on proportions.

[RoyPunter]

Hi,

I will be visiting FKK clubs everyday for a week next week. I use Viagra for ED right now. Does anyone know if I should switch to Cialis instead as I have heard it lasts longer.

Worst case, I can take a couple of Viagras a day, but don't want to overdose.

Would Cialis be better to be able to perform for an entire day and recover faster?

Thanks.

[Member #4581]

In my personal view, one can over-analyze these things too much. In matters of sex, the little head indeed should get a seat at the table if not an equal seat as the so called big head.

(many mongers may be packing relatively more gray matter in their little head compared to their big head. OK, I am not sure about the color of what they are packing there).

Yes, a newbie can't match names with faces. In my view, he should n't. Just below McA said reviews are generally useless because every review is so personal and every session can be YMMV type. You should go in, form your own views, figure out your own favorites, and make your own mistakes.

And wanting to avoid any kind of mistake is a mistake in itself. What is a mistake anyway? It is useful to know the basic price structure so that you don't unknowingly pay double or triple the standard rates. Other than that, you are a big boy and this is not rocket science.

In my opinion, reviews are useful in providing a picture of the general ambiance and ofc entertainment value. When I made my fist visit, I read the reviews and was slightly nervous -- more out of anticipation of all the good things to come -- but other than that, I always go in, see which girls I take a visual fancy to and talk to the girl, and decide what to do next. Quite simple.

First thanks to the regulars. Lots of valuable information. Making my first trip soon as I had to fly through FKK land for holiday and decided to spend one overnight there and check it out. Trip report will come when I do.

My perception is the FKK is like the strip club scene here. Lots of the same opinions from regulars vs tourists. A couple observations pretrip and wondering if this applies to FKK too.

1. I know a lot of girls at the clubs and they fit into a couple categories. 1) Machines 60% - often self medicate and run through as much as they can. High volume and standard service. Will try for high rates and reduce as need be to make the sale. Enthusiasm can decline with rates 2) Elite - 10% - don't do everything they can and would rather do 2 than 10 for the same rate and who can blame them. Big tourist trap with optics. Some good some bad service especially if negotiate 3) Lifers - 10% -typically in open relationships and enjoy the scene. Standard rates and exceptional service. Mostly stick to regulars and selective as to who they entertain. 4) Newbies - 20% - haven't found there role yet. Service and rates not defined yet. A lot depends on their view of optics and chemistry.

Always exceptions, but find a lifer and in for a treat.

2. Can be intimidating for newbies. Even if experienced outside the club everything is defined: optics, services, rates, reviews. You know mostly what you are getting and there is no pressure because on your timeline and easy to move on. In the club, even if you research it's hard to remember everything since typically no pics available to make the name association. Inside the club you have time constraints, alcohol, the hard sell, and naked ladies all around that can make you think with the wrong head and make a poor decision.

3. Not sure how true, but after many conversations with girls in and out of the club. Not everyone even participates in the room. Some just want to medicate, talk, watch, or even self serve. And rates can very, so you may get super high quote from an elite girl for full activities and the next guy may just want to self serve at a much cheaper rate.

At a club, typically can have a drink and watch the room to get a feel for who is making the rounds, who is staying on their own, who is spending time chatting with which guys, which guys are tipping who on stage to get a feel for what category a girl might fall into.

For the regulars, how do you do it in FKK to find the right girl?

[Pistons]

Are you referring to Norway?

And Sweden.

[BaltiX]

I read that study you linked, and can add a few things.

- the non homogenous market was mainly on the background of the girls. A bit counter to the main romanian / bulgarian FKK market. Although there are plenty from those two countries (and moldova) all over too.

- the 10 fold increase in internet ads as pointed out in the study is really just a 2 or a 3 fold increase as most girls run 2-5 adds each.

- many former streetwalkers before the new laws now mainly also run internet ads.

- a good reason for the increase is the expansion of low cost air travel and airbnb as opposed to high cost air travel and expensive hotels not allowing prostitution.

-Networking among prostitutes has increased, so the prostitutes know the real numbers. Talking to them are the key. Not some 'I know it all' professor making educated guesses and assumptions.

Are you referring to Norway?

[Optimist]

McAdonis. Yes, individual responses are the things which count: we are all different. Reports on clubs and girls give a flavour of one person's experience, no more.

We are in different ways making the same point I think: suggesting that readers of the forum should not blindly follow reports.

My only addition is that without field reports the forum loses its main interest, in my view.

[BaltiX]

FKKs in America or not the legalization of prostitution in most states and it's effects on society would be an interesting scenario to see. I wonder how many girls I went to school with would be involved in sex industry.

[Barry Cumstien]

First thanks to the regulars. Lots of valuable information. Making my first trip soon as I had to fly through FKK land for holiday and decided to spend one overnight there and check it out. Trip report will come when I do.

My perception is the FKK is like the strip club scene here. Lots of the same opinions from regulars vs tourists. A couple observations pretrip and wondering if this applies to FKK too.

1. I know a lot of girls at the clubs and they fit into a couple categories. 1) Machines 60% - often self medicate and run through as much as they can. High volume and standard service. Will try for high rates and reduce as need be to make the sale. Enthusiasm can decline with rates 2) Elite - 10% - don't do everything they can and would rather do 2 than 10 for the same rate and who can blame them. Big tourist trap with optics. Some good some bad service especially if negotiate 3) Lifers - 10% -typically in open relationships and enjoy the scene. Standard rates and exceptional service. Mostly stick to regulars and selective as to who they entertain. 4) Newbies - 20% - haven't found there role yet. Service and rates not defined yet. A lot depends on their view of optics and chemistry.

Always exceptions, but find a lifer and in for a treat.

2. Can be intimidating for newbies. Even if experienced outside the club everything is defined: optics, services, rates, reviews. You know mostly what you are getting and there is no pressure because on your timeline and easy to move on. In the club, even if you research it's hard to remember everything since typically no pics available to make the name association. Inside the club you have time constraints, alcohol, the hard sell, and naked ladies all around that can make you think with the wrong head and make a poor decision.

3. Not sure how true, but after many conversations with girls in and out of the club. Not everyone even participates in the room. Some just want to medicate, talk, watch, or even self serve. And rates can very, so you may get super high quote from an elite girl for full activities and the next guy may just want to self serve at a much cheaper rate.

At a club, typically can have a drink and watch the room to get a feel for who is making the rounds, who is staying on their own, who is spending time chatting with which guys, which guys are tipping who on stage to get a feel for what category a girl might fall into.

For the regulars, how do you do it in FKK to find the right girl?

[NNC1701]

In recent years the tendency of most experienced members on this forum has been to reduce the amount of girl and club information they give. This has resulted I am guessing from the way that so many such members have reported in detail and then found either their favourite girl or club being overwhelmed by inexperienced new visitors who swamp the place or girl, and in some cases, try to buy the loyalty of girls by overpaying. Reporting in detail can seem to have only negative consequences for experienced members.

Very sad for the forum but completely understandable.

Even among mongers the cock-blocking instinct is not dead. As long as FKKs thrive and recruit extensive LUs this should not be too problematic. Expect this to get worse once supply starts shrinking though.

This is what is to a large extent has been happening at GT for the last 2 years. Low supply and customers who are desperate for pussy will overpay by going 1-2 hours to a room with a girl even if they don't want to stay that long because they can only cum once or twice during the 1-2 hour period.

[McAdonis]

In recent years the tendency of most experienced members on this forum has been to reduce the amount of girl and club information they give.

Reports are not useful to me, unless there is some context. Often this means talking to and personally knowing the ISGer. Also, I've found that preferences matter. Based on what XXL's assessment of himself as someone who has a good time at Turkish clubs, I would assume that "emotional connection" does not carry much weight for him. For some mongers, this is where they derive the majority of their enjoyment. Payment details, session duration, whether one is a repeat customer, service preferences all help paint a more meaningful picture.

Some characteristics unique to me:

1. Optics-oriented: If extremely visually attracted to WG, I might perceive the session in a more positive light than it was. Good light and mirrors in rooms elevate how I perceive the experience.

2. Cheap most of the time, but high propensity to repeat and occasionally spend more: While not set in stone, I like my first 2-3 sessions with a WG to be strictly 50 EUR, so I prefer their greed for money to at least be well-camouflaged. This automatically repels me from certain WGs and in particular will cause me to perhaps be over-critical of the level of service at certain tourist clubs. My max times generally will not exceed 90 minutes, even for ATFs.

3. BJ oriented: I've met some guys who don't care much. For me, I don't consider it good service unless BJ is long. Problem is not many WGs will extend good faith to customers that fit my profile (see point two).

4. Cum oriented: I finish nearly every room. I don't go to the room unless, I am confident that I will finish within 30 minutes. If I am relatively fresh, I will aim for two pops in a longer 60-90 minutes session. I don't consider the session to be good, unless I finish. Although there were a few times, I overextended myself physically.

5. Body oriented: I have an abnormal fixation with the body, so this affects point one above. Face almost does not matter. It's not the tautness of skin or physical fitness and tone of the body, but the shape and relative proportions. This means I can occasionally be visually attracted to MILFs.

[Optimist]

XXL. Your comments cheer me up . You deprecate yourself: I know you are a man with a good eye for a girl.

Cheers.

[Mr Ho]

Likes.

1. There is a huge difference in service from the girls. If you are lucky you can have 3-4 amazing sessions in just one visit but you can also have very disappointing sessions.

2. The view of the girls walking around naked. Especially when they bent over to speak to a customer and you see the view from behind!

3. The coffee is perfect. I like it everywhere I have been.

4. Outside areas is fun sometimes.

5. The rooms especially when they have air co and couches.

Dislikes.

Each time walking into FKK club, I get this excitement of new beauty that I am going to encounter who will be secured sex. I love this I am surely going to get first night of honeymoon style sex with new young beautiful stunner that I have not met before walking into FKK.

[Vito Corleone]

Likes.

1. There is a huge difference in service from the girls. If you are lucky you can have 3-4 amazing sessions in just one visit but you can also have very disappointing sessions.

2. The view of the girls walking around naked. Especially when they bent over to speak to a customer and you see the view from behind!

3. The coffee is perfect. I like it everywhere I have been.

4. Outside areas is fun sometimes.

5. The rooms especially when they have air co and couches.

Dislikes.

Likes.

#3 & #5 are GT only reasons I visit GT.

Dislikes.

#5.

I don't bother with Frankfurt or oceans so it hasn't happened yet.

#6.

It happens to everyone. Just move on & pick another chick.