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  1. #23560
    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeLight  [View Original Post]
    What excuse do you use to travel by yourself?

    Use some sort of professional development opportunity: a conference, or short-term (like a few days) educational course.

    Second venue may be some sort of a hobby you have. Maybe you a railroad fan and you want to visit some railroad museums in industrial towns like Dortmund and Darmstadt (wink wink, there is one there indeed!) It would be great if you had such hobby in your childhood and suddenly you feel a strong urge to resurrect the experience, blah blah, you get the idea.

    Thirdly, maybe you want to explore some sort of business opportunity, perhaps starting your own business. Maybe not now, maybe after you retire. However being a practical man that you are, you wish to start the preparation early, research a bit deeper (should I say analyze?) the matter and you have to visit Germany.

    Fourthly you could have just discovered some German ancestors in your family tree and now you must visit and / or search for their graves. A slight variation may be that you want to learn and practice some German, but that would require some effort, like endless hours of practice, unless du sprichst wirklich schon gut Deutsch.

    Important: once you make up your legend, stick to it to death. You have to believe in it yourself or else your wife will sense the deception.
    Conferences or anything the dates can be checked is dangerous if he does not actually go, I would say actually go to these things and take photos as evidence LOL! Then off to FKK at night time LOL! So the whole thing will be half true!

  2. #23559
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    If you can get them then the price is up to the buyer, but the problem in most states in USA is that such options are not even available! The same go for many other nations!
    Another good point about FKK is the hygiene in Germany is top level. They have the bidet there whereas a street walking provider in the USA has very bad hygiene and would be lucky to even have a wet wipe, let alone a wipe between each client. Plus the temperatures in the USA can top 115 degrees and with all the sweat and residue down there anyone paying for full service is insane which is why mainly the BJ is the way to go in the USA.

  3. #23558

    Monetization of their youth and beauties

    The reason why some of top stunner do escort and also on low days turn up at FKK as walk in is that they like to monetize their youth and beauties in more direct impactful way which is money sex exchange business, so it is good that the whole world is filled with young stunners who want to directly monetize their beauties instead of just sticking to complicated for both dating scene!

    Arent we mongers who know where to around world are lucky LOL!

  4. #23557
    Quote Originally Posted by Adindas  [View Original Post]
    In the US prostitution is illegal, except in Nevada. In Nevada there are a lot of street prostitute could be poked much less than that, especially in the car.
    A beginner in porn industry in the US get paid around US $600-US $1000 per shoot which could be a few hours work. The scene will involve a rough sex, bareback, gang-bang, deep anal penetration, spanking, humiliation, sometimes with giant cocks, you name it.
    Also people in the US could travel to neighbouring countries such as Mexico, Columbia, etc
    Nevada totally sucks. It is all cbg by law overpriced probably more than $500 per hour. Plus you need to drive 100 to 500 miles to a legal brothel once you are in Nevada.

    Mexico you can wind up blown up there are reports of civil unrest in Tijuana wherein drug criminals are lighting cars on fire. And you can't have a gun in Mexico unless you are in the cartel, or a Mexican police officer bribed by the cartel.

  5. #23556
    Quote Originally Posted by Adindas  [View Original Post]
    As other people said EUR50 for half hour so EUR100 for an hour. For people who need travel paying EUR100 an hour why do they need to travel if that price is available to where they live without the need to travel.

    Also remember EUR100 an hour without extra. Any extra will be EUR30-50. The rate for half hours in Some FKKs in NRW are EUR40.

    I agree no need to barter as it gives off bad vibes and invariably leads to poorer service. But it is also important to remember what trigger that behaviour in the first instance. It is normally come from people, tourist, not regular visitors. These people are an easy target for the sharks, gold diggers. It is also because lack of information as they will compare the price they pay at home with the one they pay in FKK. But they fail to compare it with other places like in many countries in Asia, in South America. In Thailand, Vietnam, Laos: for examples with that sum of money you might get the girl to stay with you for the whole night.
    Also if you do not come there regularly, or it might be just once in a few years, once in a lifetime,whatever come after even if these FKKs cease to exist is no longer your concern. If you see the service is good you could actually just tip them.

    Anyway it is your money you are using. You could even pay ten times the regular price. Many people could effort that given that it is not an regular basis. But sensible people will start thinking, why do I need to travel if I could get the same price or even cheaper in my cities, areas. If people stop visiting FKKs in Germany it is just a matter of time before it ceases to exist. By the end of the day it will effect us all.

    Alternatively you could also visit high class Brothels, Night Clubs where you will be treated like a king as long as you are willing to pay. There are a lot of courtesans, Pornstars could be flown to your house as long as you want to pay.
    I travel because I fuck best Eurasian girls here and I fuck best white and other exotic stunner level girls in Europe LOL! The best of both world LOL!

  6. #23555
    Quote Originally Posted by DrPoon  [View Original Post]
    Girls at the level of European FKK girls will be about $500 per hour in the USA.
    If you can get them then the price is up to the buyer, but the problem in most states in USA is that such options are not even available! The same go for many other nations!

  7. #23554
    Quote Originally Posted by Adindas  [View Original Post]
    In the US prostitution is illegal, except in Nevada. In Nevada there are a lot of street prostitute could be poked much less than that, especially in the car.
    A beginner in porn industry in the US get paid around US $600-US $1000 per shoot which could be a few hours work. The scene will involve a rough sex, bareback, gang-bang, deep anal penetration, spanking, humiliation, sometimes with giant cocks, you name it.
    Also people in the US could travel to neighbouring countries such as Mexico, Columbia, etc
    The USA Has a massive escort and Sugar Baby scene with three separate escort review boards.

    The legal Nevada brothels constitute far less than 1 percent of the transactions. More like a tenth of one percent.

    The street scene is getting smaller every year in the USA, and is now only covered by one of those three review boards. Since it is most likely to be targeted by law enforcement, it is a very small percentage of the total transactions.

    The prices generally range from $250 an hour to $700 an hour.

    A tremendous number of independents who do full GFE, including BBBJTCIM, and who have their own websites and screen, are now indeed in the $500-$600 an hour. In smaller cities and in certain geographical areas, it can sometimes be a little bit less.

    It is very difficult to make comparisons. Realistically, the way independent escorts are forced to operate in the USA, they see relatively few customers, often only one a day. And that is reflected in the high prices. As to whether the Romanian FKK lady at $100-$150 an hour (including upsells) is the equivalent of the $500 an hour USA Independent escort, that would depend on which two you pick for comparison.

    The only part of your post I agree with is the porn discussion. It is possible to purchase sex from some porn stars, usually by finding them on Twitter and eventually emailing them. Ladies don't make much money doing porn. They primarily use it to enhance an Onlyfans presence. The porn stars who quietly escort tend to charge the same rates as independent escorts who do not do porn, although sometimes $100 an hour or so more.

    Incidentally, it is the lowest price per hour ladies who are most likely to draw the interest of law enforcement. And it is the sites those ladies advertise on that in turn gets fake ads taken out by law enforcement. Currently the main target is the site skipthegames. Before that it was of course Backpage.

    One of the reasons independent escorts charge above a certain price per hour point, and one of the reasons that Johns pay it, is that independent escorts who screen, have their own websites, and charge market rates are not typically targeted by law enforcement, especially in most large cities.

  8. #23553
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    Basel starts a test program where a few hundred people are legally allowed to buy weed from some pharmacies. It's quite likely that in a few years weed is fully legal again in Switzerland. While drug possession and consumption are technically illegal in Switzerland, possession of small quantities for personal consumption is normally not prosecuted, people might get a fine but that's it.
    As you wrote, we had golden years in year 1999 to 2001 I believe, oh wow how I so enjoyed those golden years when I was teen and top weed was over the counter legal in professional grower shops, I smoked and fuck stunners, amazing time LOL!

    The thing is CDB weed is legal it seems now, but now THC is not! I miss those golden years, but it is what it is and I follow the law! I had best time with weed, so that is that until the situation legally provide with the best weed again!

    I might at one point go to Amsterdam to try ecstacy mdma sex with top escort stunner for a week as it is all legal in Amsterdam! I will book top escort from Germany to bring her over to Amsterdam though as I am not sure if Amsterdam escorts provide quality young girls!

  9. #23552
    Quote Originally Posted by DrPoon  [View Original Post]
    Girls at the level of European FKK girls will be about $500 per hour in the USA.
    In the US prostitution is illegal, except in Nevada. In Nevada there are a lot of street prostitute could be poked much less than that, especially in the car.
    A beginner in porn industry in the US get paid around US $600-US $1000 per shoot which could be a few hours work. The scene will involve a rough sex, bareback, gang-bang, deep anal penetration, spanking, humiliation, sometimes with giant cocks, you name it.
    Also people in the US could travel to neighbouring countries such as Mexico, Columbia, etc
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  10. #23551
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Asians are spoiling girls by paying too much but Sirioja you are spoiling girls by spending over 45 minutes on foreplay in a one hour session. Then girls will not want to do 20 minutes of fucking with me in a 30 minute session.
    My standard is around 10 mn kissing caressing, then 30 mn for both oral and 20 mn fucking always kissing, most girls can t for longer, too big, too hard, too sporty. With exceptionnal girls, I stay longer. With my Rhur German, discovery was at 4. 30 am when I waited for her since 7. 30 pm and could only for 30 mn before closing, now she comes to me when seeing me and we stay 2/2 h30 , I could stay longer, rate 50/30 full GFE and foreplay fireworks playing, I think she trust me.

  11. #23550
    Girls at the level of European FKK girls will be about $500 per hour in the USA.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adindas  [View Original Post]
    As other people said EUR50 for half hour so EUR100 for an hour. For people who need travel paying EUR100 an hour why do they need to travel if that price is available to where they live without the need to travel.

    Also remember EUR100 an hour without extra. Any extra will be EUR30-50. The rate for half hours in Some FKKs in NRW are EUR40.

    I agree no need to barter as it gives off bad vibes and invariably leads to poorer service. But it is also important to remember what trigger that behaviour in the first instance. It is normally come from people, tourist, not regular visitors. These people are an easy target for the sharks, gold diggers. It is also because lack of information as they will compare the price they pay at home with the one they pay in FKK. But they fail to compare it with other places like in many countries in Asia, in South America. In Thailand, Vietnam, Laos: for examples with that sum of money you might get the girl to stay with you for the whole night.
    Also if you do not come there regularly, or it might be just once in a few years, once in a lifetime,whatever come after even if these FKKs cease to exist is no longer your concern. If you see the service is good you could actually just tip them..

  12. #23549
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Some girls know they can ask what they want because Asians now back will pay whatever they ask. Was not same on last year without Asians, when had many 100/60 full GFE. I don t mind paying 150/60 when 30 mn are too short for my too intimate game.....
    Asians are spoiling girls by paying too much but Sirioja you are spoiling girls by spending over 45 minutes on foreplay in a one hour session. Then girls will not want to do 20 minutes of fucking with me in a 30 minute session.

  13. #23548
    Quote Originally Posted by Abox79  [View Original Post]
    Yes, not many people do get a 100% pay rise. However, the 50/30 rate was in place for 20+ years. Not many people are paid the same as 20+ years ago. There's a lot of jobs paying 50 Eu an hour, it's not that high a pay rate. Like you say, if it's too much then don't pay it. Personally I never try and barter, it gives off bad vibes and invariably leads to poorer service because the girls think the guy is cheap.
    As other people said EUR50 for half hour so EUR100 for an hour. For people who need travel paying EUR100 an hour why do they need to travel if that price is available to where they live without the need to travel.

    Also remember EUR100 an hour without extra. Any extra will be EUR30-50. The rate for half hours in Some FKKs in NRW are EUR40.

    I agree no need to barter as it gives off bad vibes and invariably leads to poorer service. But it is also important to remember what trigger that behaviour in the first instance. It is normally come from people, tourist, not regular visitors. These people are an easy target for the sharks, gold diggers. It is also because lack of information as they will compare the price they pay at home with the one they pay in FKK. But they fail to compare it with other places like in many countries in Asia, in South America. In Thailand, Vietnam, Laos: for examples with that sum of money you might get the girl to stay with you for the whole night.
    Also if you do not come there regularly, or it might be just once in a few years, once in a lifetime,whatever come after even if these FKKs cease to exist is no longer your concern. If you see the service is good you could actually just tip them.

    Anyway it is your money you are using. You could even pay ten times the regular price. Many people could effort that given that it is not an regular basis. But sensible people will start thinking, why do I need to travel if I could get the same price or even cheaper in my cities, areas. If people stop visiting FKKs in Germany it is just a matter of time before it ceases to exist. By the end of the day it will effect us all.

    Alternatively you could also visit high class Brothels, Night Clubs where you will be treated like a king as long as you are willing to pay. There are a lot of courtesans, Pornstars could be flown to your house as long as you want to pay.

  14. #23547
    Quote Originally Posted by MongerMooze  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for all the great information that is available on this forum!

    I hope it is ok if I pose a question or two here.

    First, I assume some or many of you have wives and / or families. I unfortunately do not travel a lot with work (and my wife knows my co-workes so it would be a risky lie). What excuse do you use to travel by yourself?

    Secondly, I have read a lot of reviews (that I really appreciate) and a thing stands out as weird to me: Licking pussy. Partly because so many (mongerers) seem so into it, but hey 'each to his own', but also because it seems standard that you have to pay extra for it. Is it never included? Do the girls not like having oral sex performed on them? What up?

    Thirdly, along the same lines, most reviewers seem to find it really important with GFE, I have a wife I can get that experience at home. I just want to fuck good looking girls, I don't really care if they seem unattentive, bored or don't feel like kissing. I'm not against them enjoying the sex, but it is really secoundary to me enjoying it. Are there more like me out there?

    Hope I can make an escape from the wife soon. Planing on going to Frankfurt and checking out Mainhattan and / or Sharks.
    Just say you want to see some museum in Germany as you are interested in it and actually go to museum for 10 min to take photos!

    DATY is free usually, but some try to take advantage of you, but blowjob without condom is recently charged by little more, usually about 20 euro more in some clubs, it used to be free till government changed law in summer 2017!

    I like fucking top beauty with GFE, but if I have to choose one, I go for beauty than GFE as I make sure the session is GFE or at least very dirty LOL!

    So the question to you now, why do you want to escape from your wife? What is it about your wife that bother you so much and if so, why did you get married in the first place? You once thought she is the love of your life no? Then what changed beside maybe she got too old for you to seduced or she cheated or what changed since you decided to exchange bows forever?

  15. #23546
    Quote Originally Posted by Abox79  [View Original Post]
    Yes, not many people do get a 100% pay rise. However, the 50/30 rate was in place for 20+ years. Not many people are paid the same as 20+ years ago. There's a lot of jobs paying 50 Eu an hour, it's not that high a pay rate. Like you say, if it's too much then don't pay it. Personally I never try and barter, it gives off bad vibes and invariably leads to poorer service because the girls think the guy is cheap.
    Average wages in Germany increased by less than 20% over the period 2000-2020.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...on-y-in-euros/

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