Good insight.

[LilJoey]

I did got civilians, basically students that need money to live in Kiev. The are from 'the regions' or 'villages' as the Kievites refer to despicably (although most of them came from the same small towns). Their families can't support them, so they need to supplement the income. Don't limit yourself to residents of Kiev. You can invite them to come to Kiev, and they will come, if you offer to pay for their train ticket which is very cheap. Once in Kiev. They have to stay with you.

I also got some from seekingarrangement, those are more pros, but there are all kinds. I met a model, absolutely beautiful, through that site. She showed me her portfolio online, a true beauty, but she was not too hot about me (and / or the money I gave her, maybe she expected a lot more).

I got a spam message in Mamba about Sexmamba, but is too complicated to sign into so many places, pay for VIP status, etc.

I don't feel like dishing $300, I can do that in Miami, so I won't go to Rio. Me too, I am on the wrong side of 50, so you can relate or not to my experience.

Girls in Arena are extremely hot and a little intimidating with 6 inch stilettos. A lot of young men go there too, so I feel ridiculous trying to compete there. I kind of disappear in that crowd at 5'5. I eat at Arena, Martini Terraza sometimes, or go to their Illy coffee shop, and the line of very hot chicks going to the club is frankly AMAZING.

I will try Shooters for the first time when I am there next week, and also for the first time Vodka Bar. Any pointers? Any other suggestions?

Again, anyone wanting to go mongering together, let me know. I am not cheap, I eat at Buddah all the time, I 'live' at Volkonski and know all their waiters (and they know me) , but I don't like to be scalped by a cold beatch or burn my money away.

Again, saw some hotties in Top-Modals. Can we exchange names of those girls here, to know if anyone tried them?

Thanks!

I also got linked to a new website called "Sexmamba" when clicking on certain girls' pictures on mamba. Ru. I tried to sign up to see what it's about, but the process requires a verification to be sent via text message SMS to a number that they give you. It's a different number for each country. The USA is not one of the countries on their list. So I used the number they gave for Some of the European countries and sent the SMS message. But it didn't work. I have not seen this "Sexmamba" site discussed here on the thread. It would seem to be a site where one would know in advance that all the girls are open to P4p, and eliminate that initial question. Probably all fake pics though, like mamba. Ru itself. Have any of you from European countries been able to successfully sign up to the "sexmamba" website? Any experiences to relate?

Pedro, the way I understand your goals, you are over 50, 5'5", and feel ridiculous going after super hot looking girls in their 20's in the nightclubs. Join the club. All of us in this boat feel the same way. Probably because of the rebuffs we've received from young girls we might have tried to talk to in nightclubs back home, or imagined would rebuff us mercilessly if we tried. Believe me, I can relate to what you are saying.

But you have to keep in mind that there are at least two things that are different in the Kiev scene that are working in your favor, that are not present in a nightclub scene in Miami. One is that the girls you are looking for are seeking a guy just like you! The fact that you are older and you are a foreigner who likely has some money to burn is exactly what they have in mind. There are Working Girls in these nightclubs looking for a guy who will give them money. So it isn't as important how pretty and young your nose is. The second factor is that it is very common in Kiev and other EE places for young student girls who need money to hook up with older guys who have money and will "sponsor" them, meaning give them some help with their expenses. So don't worry about the age difference. You will not be the only older guy who hooks up with a younger girl at the nightclub. With these two things in mind, just go and plug away. Try to have a good time drinking / dancing. Keep an eye out for any girl giving you a look (as maybe she's a WG looking for some action) smile back and do an intro. If she's a WG, she will show her interest. WG's tend to hang by the bar areas and not on the dance floor. These are the things I am thinking of doing in the nightclubs.

Cruiser D and others are reporting it's not too hard to get a very hot young girl out of a nightclub in Kiev for $200 or less. This means there are others, who are also older guys, who are already successfully doing exactly what you want to do. So knowing it's possible, is a great encouragement to just go and do it yourself.

One other point. Since your post expresses a desire to spend less, then the best scenario is when you can get the girl to stay with you for a longer time, even all night long. In Kiev it's possible for not too much more than the initial outlay of cash. This is something you can NOT do in Miami. You can spend $300 in Miami on ONE hour with a hot p4p girl, but if you want another hour, it's going to cost you another $300, or at least $200. All night would likely cost you a $1, 000. But in Kiev, you might get a girl from the nightclub who wants $200 to come home with you, and she will stay all night with you probably for just a little bit more. And if she really likes you, and is having fun with you, maybe she'll be happy with just the initial $200. Even the Rio girls who start at $300, can be gotten for the whole night for $400. This you can't get in Miami. This is where Kiev really becomes a bargain. That a pretty young girl will stay with you all night, many, many hours, and fuck you multiple times, for little more than the cost of the initial hour. And Maybe you will find a girl who will come home with you for even less than $200 initially.

So at night have a great time in the nightclubs. The more guys in the 50+ age bracket that can do what Cruiser D says is possible, and report on the details of the process, the more information on this thread there will be to guide others. So post your stories and let us know what happens. And by day try out as many website girls as you can to see if you can find any pretty ones. You are bound to have a great time.

Good luck.

LJ

[Ronaldinjo]

Saw 3 mamba girls yesterday. 2 were undoable, one of them fat. 1 was so so. 6-7 by Kiev standarts, send her home. Invited my beautiful queen Olya, she agreed 200$ for 5 hours. We dined and then to my place, wow, she was great, what a girl. I'm drained once more. Went to Rio at night (about 2-3 o clock) , poor lineup compared to previous night, a lot of unattractive girls. Stayed for 2 hours and than back home dreaming about my Olya. Mandarin is supposed to open wery soon, but I'm leaving very soon.

[PedroToronja]

I did got civilians, basically students that need money to live in Kiev. The are from 'the regions' or 'villages' as the Kievites refer to despicably (although most of them came from the same small towns). Their families can't support them, so they need to supplement the income. Don't limit yourself to residents of Kiev. You can invite them to come to Kiev, and they will come, if you offer to pay for their train ticket which is very cheap. Once in Kiev. They have to stay with you.

I also got some from seekingarrangement, those are more pros, but there are all kinds. I met a model, absolutely beautiful, through that site. She showed me her portfolio online, a true beauty, but she was not too hot about me (and / or the money I gave her, maybe she expected a lot more).

I got a spam message in Mamba about Sexmamba, but is too complicated to sign into so many places, pay for VIP status, etc.

I don't feel like dishing $300, I can do that in Miami, so I won't go to Rio. Me too, I am on the wrong side of 50, so you can relate or not to my experience.

Girls in Arena are extremely hot and a little intimidating with 6 inch stilettos. A lot of young men go there too, so I feel ridiculous trying to compete there. I kind of disappear in that crowd at 5'5. I eat at Arena, Martini Terraza sometimes, or go to their Illy coffee shop, and the line of very hot chicks going to the club is frankly AMAZING.

I will try Shooters for the first time when I am there next week, and also for the first time Vodka Bar. Any pointers? Any other suggestions?

Again, anyone wanting to go mongering together, let me know. I am not cheap, I eat at Buddah all the time, I 'live' at Volkonski and know all their waiters (and they know me) , but I don't like to be scalped by a cold beatch or burn my money away.

Again, saw some hotties in Top-Modals. Can we exchange names of those girls here, to know if anyone tried them?

Thanks!

[Guntherus]

Having no personal interests in Rio-Club other than seeing nice dancers, I hesitatingly mix myself into the discussion repeating what I wrote more than a year ago: to find girls for passionate overnight sex Rio is a sensible choice for me. I visit Kiew for a week, now for the sixth time, I am almost sixty and speak only four words Russian (if speaking is the right word.) But this time I never got to visit Rio. I went to Avalon the first night, where I like the music and find people friendly, I dance a little and I invite a few girls drink when they are friendly. To make long story short, I went away, first with two girls who wanted to try another club, and then two hours later one of them wanted to "see my flat." There is hardly anything in my book comparable with spending the night with a 30yo dying for action because she hasnt had sex for weeks. The trembling and the gasps like that of a teenager are nothing that can be faked. And not even a dancer from Rio, passing as a passionate sexworker once in a while, can exceed this experience, in my opinion. I know this was my luck on the first night. I got her digitis, and spent rest of the days trying to meet her, but she had no time for more meetings because of her child and her work. I hope to meet her next time though. So try your luck with freebies, as well as the dancers and the profilers of Mamba etc.
Costs: three glasses of redwine 135uah, two taxis 100uah, taxi home 100uah

PS What happened to the second girl of the two I mentioned? Entering Caribbean-club, I witnessed a very admirable "friendly takeover" by a nice fellow about the same age as the girl. He literally isolated her on the dance floor, cornered her, and started telling something in her ear, which I had no intention of overhearing. Before long she was dancing to no other. I myself then had plenty more chance to invite the other to my quarters. Honestly speaking, I am not sure I would have managed to reel both of them in. But I confess it crossed my mind.

[Jony B]

So called one beauty, Olya. 22 year old, that sweared pics were hers (before meeting her I didt know if she was freebie or semipro) , so we met in the evening, wow, what a beauty she was, very beautiful even for kievs standarts, an 9 for me at least, and I'm very picky. We dined, talked, her english was better than mine. Blond, great body beautiful face, as in pics, so after hours of talking and walking through kreshatik we came to my place. Before it she made me clear that she needed money for her mothers operation (it casted 3000 $). So we agreed to spend time 350 $ till the mornin untill 10 o clock, and what a night it was, I was like dreaming, I was drained out of sperm that night, I have cum 4 times, she is great, real godess. Best sex in my life. She sweared that it was her first time and last time to make sex for money, and she would very much would like to meet me once more, even for less money. So great deal. 350$ for at least 12-14 hours with her. Gave her 30$ tip that she didn't want to take initially. I feel lucky and very happy. Much better deal than in Rio, and she was better looking than most beautiful girl in Rio.

Hello Ronaldinjo,

Olya. 22 year old you mentioned above is this one?

http://mamba.ru/olechka-uo/?afolder=dating

Thanks

[Ronaldinjo]

I have found mamba to be very good source for beautiful and chip sex in Kiev, only 2 things you need is a little bit luck and patience, because for every beautie you find you need to overpass 3-4-5 trolls at least. Had a great day with Tatyana yesterday. 2 hours 1400 gryvnas, pettite brunette, very sexy and my taste, solid 8 by Kiev standarts, can be leveled with top girls in Rio. Great service, allowed DATY freely, uncovered BJ, and in the second and third shots sex without condom. My shots came on her body. Very nice and sweet personality (half ukrainian, half kaukazian ingush as she said) , very pationate and beautiful face.

Later at night went to Dalls, nice club, good athmosphere, no that big selection of girls like in Rio, but felt that there is better chance for GFE than in Rio. Not many visitors. Talkes to some girls. 2h / 300$, one agreed for 3 h / 300$ promiced DATY and uncovered BJ, but I was drained and tired, just talked to some girls. But there is advantages over Rio: 1. No taxi 100 gryvnas like from Rio, no need to tip managers (didn't see them, waitress helped me) , and better GFE. But Rio has broader selection, in dalls maximum 20 girls working together.

With respect, ronaldinjo

[Ronaldinjo]

Rio is not bad place, there were some cute babes there, but after my night with Olya I didn't see that any girl was worth for takeout there, and I was very tired too. Had a privat with Dasha, suppose the same girl you took home, small brunette who dances acrobatically, am I wright? I don't think she will be rated as 7 by most boys here, she certainely was at least 8 physically, do you agree with me? She had great body and beautiful face, but didn't like her attitude. Maybe we were both wery tired that midnight. But her privat was good. Maybe next time.

[Ronaldinjo]

In my personal opinion Ljs posts are very helpfull and I like to read them a lot. It is maybe true that he overpays girls, but this is his money and his life and he is free to do with them whatever he wishes. Even if he is shill for Rio (which I honestly don't believe) his information is mostly true and relible (eventhough maybe I don't agree about girls beautie, but as it was so much said previously, beauty is on the eyes of beholder). So dear Lj, don't take other mongers attack personally and continue to post your interesting statment as you used to. There are a lot of peaople ready to read them with interest. Those who are not interested can skipp Ljs posts. By the way Lj, I have found Kiev to be much more than only Rio, there is neeed for some effort only and a little bit of luck.

[Ronaldinjo]

Good report Ronaldinjo, I think I know what Girl you are talking about. Blonde and 22, looks like a 9. 5. Definitely worth $350 all night.

Did you take any photos of the ladies?

Have you been to Club Mandarin yet?

Its hard to believ that we are talking about the same girl. She sweard it was her first and last time. I did take some photoes but erotic ones she didn't allow. Haven't been in mandarin, was once in Rio and once in dalls (read the post above).

[Poker Player 2]

Many thanks for your review Poker Player 2. There is so much irrelevant tiresome rubbish here. But this is the kind of informative on the spot stuff thatis really useful. (you may like to read my own day by day visit experience) I was fascinated by your success with the massages. I have similarly attempted to get further with girls from Dolly and Rakuena but with no success. It would be great to get a clue as to which you use yourself. 'TheKnight' similarly is turned on by the massage service and made some small progress, but generally its impenetrable. What's your secret.

Limarian,

I thank you for your message. I read all your posts and I think that you and I.and I believe the majority of ISG members, regard the forum as a means of helping others by providing information. Just like yourself, I am somewhat frustrated by some of the negative comments by a few members who do not use the forum as we do. Your knowledge of Kiev is much superior to mine and I have much to learn from your insights. With regards to the massage lady, I don't have a secret. I can tell you that I had a good time with her from the first visit; we laughed a lot and chatted quite a lot. She became much looser starting from the second visit. Like yourself, I have the best time with a woman when there is a connection beyong the physical aspects. Ofcourse, this approach only works sometimes. I believe I got lucky with the girl from RIO as well; we had a lot of fun and I really enjoyed my time with her. I actually have the massage lady's email, phone and skype presense so if you care to, I could contact her and secure her permission to share contact information?

I never knew Kiev could be so hot! UK weather is much different. I was interested in Premiere palace pool and Gym you were writing about. Do you share my impressions of the Hotel? I thought they offered questionable service and charged world prices for it- do you concur? I was considering staying at the Hotel as a guest.

Regards

[Kirch]

Its become obvious to me that this thread has been corrupted by shills promoting the venue known as Rio. I would like to share what you can truly expect in this place. Rio strip club is an expensive option in Kiev. The average cost of a girl is about $400 when you average the expense of drinks, dances, tips and whatever. The first disappointment that will strike you is that the girls are just not that hot (mostly 7's and 8's). The second disappointment is that not all the girls are available for carry out. I visited this place once a week for three weeks straight and never took a girl home. I could afford one of these girls every night of my stay in Kiev but I do not like wasting my money. Here are the real problems. I am in my early forties with a strong sex drive, but sex in the wee hours reduces me to half of my true self. I'm not a very experienced monger but I know that covered blow jobs and no DATY is basically not acceptable. Others will tell you that they "broke through the barrier" or YMMV but this is all straight bullshit when it comes to the girls in Rio nightclub. Here is why. Rio is a unique venue in Kiev where girls can prostitute themselves without any transmission of bodily fluid. If the girls were open to being better performers, most would not work here.

Senior members of this thread have tried to forewarn the newbies about the reality of this place. Be careful of what you read here, you don't want to be misguided by slick writers with ulterior motives.

Hi Climaxnow, you are totally right and I can just agree. BUT for Kiev and not having so much time RIO is the best place. Everywhere else you will spend too much time. For a tourist coming to Kiev and not speaking Russian it's hard to get around and in addition very expensive. So instead of checking Kreshatik during the daytime and night time at McDonalds, Vodka Bar, Buddha Bar, Deluxe, Baby Face Bar, Arena City and and and, you could just go to Rio and spend EUR 10 for entrance and about EUR 5 for Bacardi Cola (cheaper than Germany) and check out all the girls coming straight to your table. I totally agree that recently the girls are not all 10s but still a lot of nice girls. AND as I always write, it's a matter of your attitude what you get later in your apartment! Of course sometime you are wrong and pay a lot of money for a cheap blowjob and f* with condom and she's leaving after 2-3 hours. But I have there many times and the managers know me and give me advice what girl to take. Furthermore with some experience all of the girls were 7-9s and stayed at my apartment until noon. But my conclusion is that I spend my money way better in Germany going to the FKK clubs. How can I say, it`s the all-in package you get, being in a foreign nice country. Hope you understand :-9

[LilJoey]

See little Joe is getting dragged thru the mud here. Shill for Rio? I just think he is out of his mind but when I read this BS about cops harrassing you if they see you entering your flat with a girl makes you look more like one! For this reason I do have issue with the last paragraph here. I don't see a reason to be so paranoid as I did this numerous times. Carrying your passport- and still give the cops GRN because they see you with a girl? No f-ing way amigos! This is what made me laugh reading this? Some of the guys on here could misconstrue this as an attempt to futhur pump up Rio so cut this BS!

I just entered building with a lady / girl and other times they just walking up and knocking at door. Not a cop anywhere and why would there be? Carry your Passport. Yes, at least have a very good photocopy. I have a friend who lives there now and he never carries his. He is a tough bastard, speaks not bad Ukrainian, so this is a good reason why he does not. I always carried mine but was concerned I would lose it. Fucking EE BS. An added note. Late at nite if you are walking around Khrashatk st, which is one short block up from where my flat was- while walking underground / streets to avoid jay walking BS I would walk with a brisk pace, and an attitude so not to attract militia, cops and low lifes. Specially if you are loaded be aware of your surroundings, common sense and don't be a victim. Spend your cash on babes! Now Joey, get a life, fuck Rio, semi pro daytime for a nice fix, and at nite hang with freebies, and / or chases some girls in the bars, because the chase is more fun and cheaper than anything at Rio, but this has been said a dozen times here.

No, Schucker69, you are quite wrong and have posted information that will cause harm to others. I wrote about the problems sometimes that is encountered when entering one's apartment with girls and that one can be confronted by police. This is stated from reading the thread, which you have not sufficiently done, as well as from personal experience, as I was stopped one time personally.

Now it doesn't mean that a monger bringing a girl to his apartment will ALWAYS be stopped. This is where having a brain is useful as you read posts about problems had with law enforcement by other mongers. Many times you will be lucky and your apartment will not be in an area frequented by LE on foot. Most of the times I have visited Kiev over the past few years, I have had no problem and wasn't stopped by police. It happened to me once, when my apartment was just off the Maidan, an area more likely to have an LE presence. I too am concerned about losing my passport if I take it along in my pocket. But having read of the problems others had and the shake down that occurs if you are stopped and don't have your actual passport with you, I decided that I didn't want to be taken down to a precinct or spend any time in custody of Ukrainian police, so I decided to carry my passport was a better option.

The advice about making sure the girls have ID is also derived from personal experience, as because one of the two girls I had with me on the night I was stopped just entering my apartment did not have her ID, and as a result the police would not let her alone, until I paid them off.

Perhaps you are one of those souls that doesn't mind doing things the hard way or learning things the hard way, and you would like to take your chances with the ukrainian police and would not mind wasting an entire evening on dealing with their bullshit. The advice I gave was for those who wish to extricate themselves as quickly and easily as possible from the clutches of a corrupt law enforcement situation where the opportunity to shake down foreigners is commonly taken. A few simple precautions for those who would be wary are certainly in order.

LJ

[Climaxnow]

As long as Lilijoey enjoy it and can afford it, I don't see the problem. I don't partake his hobby and don't really read his sanguine posts about Rio, but he is enthousiastic in a genuine way, polite and never dogmatic, so live and let live. If you don't like his posts put him in your ignore list, no need to be offensive.

No need for ignore lists Prosal, once shills get called out on the forum they usually dissappear. They can't afford the negative publicity.

[Schuker69]

Most of the hot girls I have taken out of Rio over the past year 2011 and including up until my last visit of April 2012 have not been from the VIP room there, but rather from the downstairs bar or the upstairs bar. The VIP room has never been seen by me to have a consistently better line up than the other rooms. This has been noticed by more than one ISG member, causing us to muse in prior reports on this thread as to what is special about the VIP room at Rio to give it that title of "VIP", since it was decidedly NOT the quality of the girls in the VIP. It seemed that it was simply the more comfortable seating and couches in the VIP lounge and the mere exclusivity of its accessibility that differentiated it from the other rooms at Rio. I once thought I detected a similarity in the type of girls I saw in the VIP of very petite, young, newer types of girls, but this held true only for a time. I spoke to the managers about it, saying in the rest of the world a VIP room would be assumed to have the better girls but that was obviously not the strategy at Rio. The managers I spoke to acknowledged that that was the case. At one time it was my impression that the best looking girls were more to be found in the downstairs room, and the managers were directing the regulars to the downstairs bar, and newer customers to the upstairs room. It's hard to say if this has continued to hold true either. The fact is that girls switch around and rotate through the different rooms, sometimes they would be dancing downstairs, sometimes upstairs and sometimes in VIP, and sometimes at the sister club Paradise located 30 minutes out from downtown.

Therefore, this idea which runs consistently through reports filed by Muddy, that VIP room has the prettier girls at Rio, is a misconception. It makes me doubt whether he has really been in all the rooms at Rio adequately to assess the different line ups, or his observational powers. The fact is that one needs to check out all three line ups to see if there are some top level hotties present. One cannot simply go, or try to go, to the VIP room and bank on the idea that the best looking girls will be there. It's simply not so. The best strategy is to start early, and check out each line up, and if you think that a particular line up is lame, as one after the other of average girls appears on stage, don't just continue to sit there and waste time, but rather ask the manager if you can switch to the other room to see who's there. Do not assume VIP has best line up. It is a misconception.

I do agree that there are many average girls or slightly above average girls dancing at the Rio club. On this Muddy, and others are correct. No one should spend $300 on such girls because such average looking girls are widely available on mamba. Ru or top-modals. Com or other websites at $75 / hr or even $50 / hr. So it's ridiculous to take average looking girls out from Rio at a prive of $300 even for 3 hours.

However, there are also a significant percentage of very nice looking girls at Rio too. And that is the entire point of going to the club. To get one if the beauties, if you can. They are not in the club in unlimited supply, but there are a sufficient number of them to make it worthwhile. There is competition from other customers. Some beauties are new girls, and are dancer only. But if you can get to one of the hotties, and she checks out in all your requirements, and she likes you and agrees to come home with you, you are in for a treat, although it's going to cost you $300/3hrs for take out. But in all my trips to Kiev, the Rio club has replaced the River Palace for me, as the location for the least expensive easy and sure thing, in getting a very hot young Ukrainian girl into my bed for the night.

However, now that some reliable veteran members of ISG are reporting lower prices of $200 or less for very hot girls in the nightclubs, instead of the prices of $400 and $500 that were being reported as nightclub prices previously, it would be highly recommended to spend some significant time searching for your hottie of the night at one of the popular nightclubs to see if you can score something good at $200 or less, and to look at places like Rio, or the new Mandarin scheduled to reopen soon, as a backup in case you are not successful at the regular nightclubs, sort of like it used to be with River Palace when it used to be around.

And who knows, if you schedule a lot of daytime mamba. Ru girl meetings, as recommended, you may hook into the very hot young girls you are looking for, even before you hit the nightclubs at night, at much lower price to boot.

It's all good. Several different methods available to seek out very pretty young girls. What more could an older guy ask for in a mongering destination?

LE concerns have previously been a concern for our hobby. Girl apartments are vulnerable since they are known stationary targets. Best to invite dates to your apartment. It cannot be emphasized enough how important it is to carry your actual passport on your person in going about Kiev. Also, out of concern for being stopped by police when trying to enter your apartment with a girl, it would be a good idea to make sure any girl you wish to bring to your apartment (especially in Maidan area) has her identity documents with her, and that you should know at least her real first name (you can always say to a policeman that you forgot her last name) , and you should have some agreed upon story of how you know each other and are friends or acquaintances from previously. The police say that they are concerned for the protection of tourists from unscrupulous girls who rob them, so it is not good to take girls you don't know into your apartment. So being able to satisfy the police that you do know each other from before and trust them, along with some Grivna has always worked in the past, if one got stopped. The clubs like Rio, know how to recognize the presence of LE in the club, and will likely slow things down or not permit take out during such a visitation, but will resume when all's clear.

LJ

See little Joe is getting dragged thru the mud here. Shill for Rio? I just think he is out of his mind but when I read this BS about cops harrassing you if they see you entering your flat with a girl makes you look more like one! For this reason I do have issue with the last paragraph here. I don't see a reason to be so paranoid as I did this numerous times. Carrying your passport- and still give the cops GRN because they see you with a girl? No f-ing way amigos! This is what made me laugh reading this? Some of the guys on here could misconstrue this as an attempt to futhur pump up Rio so cut this BS!

I just entered building with a lady / girl and other times they just walking up and knocking at door. Not a cop anywhere and why would there be? Carry your Passport. Yes, at least have a very good photocopy. I have a friend who lives there now and he never carries his. He is a tough bastard, speaks not bad Ukrainian, so this is a good reason why he does not. I always carried mine but was concerned I would lose it. Fucking EE BS!. An added note. Late at nite if you are walking around Khrashatk st, which is one short block up from where my flat was- while walking underground / streets to avoid jay walking BS I would walk with a brisk pace, and an attitude so not to attract militia, cops and low lifes. Specially if you are loaded be aware of your surroundings, common sense and don't be a victim. Spend your cash on babes! Now Joey, get a life, fuck Rio, semi pro daytime for a nice fix, and at nite hang with freebies, and / or chases some girls in the bars, because the chase is more fun and cheaper than anything at Rio, but this has been said a dozen times here.

[CityHunter77]

Well I arrived early morning from portugal, weather was superb, very hot as I like it. Got 30 mamba numbers (some of them freebies). Well boys, firs mamba girl convinced me that sexy pics are hers, so I invited her and she was ugly like a hell. I send her home without any taxy fee, she didn't seem surpriced. 2 other mamba girls were so so, one of them matched the girl in the pic, but was less beautifull in reality, about 6 for me. Gave them 25 gryvnas for taxis. Was dissapointed, but decided to give last try. So called one beauty, Olya. 22 year old, that sweared pics were hers (before meeting her I didt know if she was freebie or semipro) , so we met in the evening, wow, what a beauty she was, very beautiful even for kievs standarts, an 9 for me at least, and I'm very picky. We dined, talked, her english was better than mine. Blond, great body beautiful face, as in pics, so after hours of talking and walking through kreshatik we came to my place. Before it she made me clear that she needed money for her mothers operation (it casted 3000 $). So we agreed to spend time 350 $ till the mornin untill 10 o clock, and what a night it was, I was like dreaming, I was drained out of sperm that night, I have cum 4 times, she is great, real godess. Best sex in my life. She sweared that it was her first time and last time to make sex for money, and she would very much would like to meet me once more, even for less money. So great deal. 350$ for at least 12-14 hours with her. Gave her 30$ tip that she didn't want to take initially. I feel lucky and very happy. Much better deal than in Rio, and she was better looking than most beautiful girl in Rio.

Next day I felt great fatigue, called one beautiful girl, Ksiusha, an 7. 5 for me, matched the pics, damage was 800 gryvnas / h, very long one session (I'm not yang any more) and send her home.

At nigh went to Rio, the show was not bad, even though I noticed a fall down compared to my previous time there, saw some beauties in VIP and bar, Katrin, nice pettite, beautiful face, but unfortunately no takeout, Rosa, beautiful face, pettite, Sofia, beautiful tits and body, face less so, Marina (Mariana?) , blond, beautiful face, nice body, don't know if takeout possible, Dasha, brunete, pettite, sexy girl, Katya, great body, but small tits, Ada, nice girl, Bella, nice girl, good body. But my Olya was better than best girls in Rio. Was wery tired that day, spoke to some girls, agreed for 2 privats, had a nice time, dreamd about Olya, wow.

And one more thing, I noticed that ukrainian girls are very fond of dark boys, portugueese, spanish, italians, turks and arabs. Much more than bright americans, english, scandinavians and germans, that what a lot of girls told me.

Good report Ronaldinjo, I think I know what Girl you are talking about. Blonde and 22, looks like a 9. 5. Definitely worth $350 all night.

Did you take any photos of the ladies?

Have you been to Club Mandarin yet?