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  1. #1670
    Quote Originally Posted by Myrrh  [View Original Post]
    In countries where prostitution is illegal massage girls will almost always ask the punter if they want a 'happy ending' after the massage just in case he was an undercover cop. If he took her to court on the basis of that phrase he would lose because she could always claim that she had always ever thought that 'happy ending' meant something else to giving a hand job. It provides some protection however limited and it could be argued that some protection is better than none, if you'll pardon the pun.
    I don't know what it is like in the UK, but in the US a massage girl would never ask that. They almost always ask "What you want now?" or "Do you want me to massage anywhere else?" This puts the onus on the customer to ask for it, which is the most protection these ladies can receive. If they asked if the guy wanted a "happy ending" it would be trivial to show that it is such a common euphemism that everyone involved understood what was being asked.

  2. #1669
    Quote Originally Posted by Jnpr30  [View Original Post]
    Haha. Thanks for thinking of me, and too bad I missed out on the spectacle, LOL.
    You will be fine.

    Ok. The girls will do it discreetly on the couch or in the kino but maybe not on the open stage underneath the Kino screen or if you move above the level of the couch back rest. I know my girls stopped shy of being too open on the public sex but they did it and even offered to do it without asking. I was so pleased that when chatting that the girls I took would just pull my towel away from around my waist and get down low under the level of the couch and give a BJ. But when I stood to get more grip on their heads or pull the girl up over the height of the couch so everyone could see then it was a "lets go to the room" and I was doing what I could to bend her over the couch back to fuck her doggie style as she faced the people sitting to the back of us.

  3. #1668
    Quote Originally Posted by Bitumen  [View Original Post]
    I think my last visits which actually coincided with yours saw that Germany had blown the hinges off the closet door. I was doing anal, getting public sex (special note for our Jnpr30) and getting all services.

    .
    Haha. Thanks for thinking of me, and too bad I missed out on the spectacle, LOL.

  4. #1667

    Are we euphemists or optimists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    I'm developing a bad habit of agreeing with Neurosynth Codes and crass allegories etc are totally transparent.
    If using creative euphemisms was such a daft idea then why have terms like 'full service' and 'happy ending' become such well known phrases in our vocabulary?

    I am guessing that nobody ever used these, they just came into our heads by magic?

    In countries where prostitution is illegal massage girls will almost always ask the punter if they want a 'happy ending' after the massage just in case he was an undercover cop. If he took her to court on the basis of that phrase he would lose because she could always claim that she had always ever thought that 'happy ending' meant something else to giving a hand job. It provides some protection however limited and it could be argued that some protection is better than none, if you'll pardon the pun.

    Anyway, how about this thought. If a member who has posted numerous reports in the past of his barebacking exploits at a notorious brothel which specializes in AO sex now makes a post after a visit to the same club, soon after a law banning paid AO sex, and euphemistically says that 'he got the same service as in the past' then what are we to make of that then?

    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    Went back again today. I did one girl as I was again a bit short on time. Went with Sara, brunette, who provided the service I expected, but didn't include DATY or DFK. 30 euros.

  5. #1666
    Quote Originally Posted by UltraHappy  [View Original Post]
    Depends on how creative you are. Yes, the examples you offer (strawmen examples) are transparent and would provide no cover. No argument there.

    Still, one can nonetheless write reports that communicate a great deal about services without being so transparent, especially where certain descriptions are capable of differing interpretations.

    This is not just about protecting yourself from law enforcement (which I'm not concerned about in this context), but a courtesy that ought to be extended to the clubs we frequent and the service providers who work so hard to leave us with so many happy memories during our holidays.
    "Dear club owner, as a bad faith courtesy I've ineffectively obscured my post in such a way that everyone will understand it, but I will nevertheless expect to earn your appreciation. ".

  6. #1665
    Quote Originally Posted by Neurosynth  [View Original Post]
    Using "creative euphemisms" is a silly pursuit. I mean if folks just want to joke around with it, well have fun. But some folks seriously suggest such things as if they would provide any cover at all. They won't. Any serious police officer, FKK operator, or FKK worker is going to quickly understand what is being said. The only folks who will be confused by such a "code" will be newbies to the board.

    And believe me, it's all been tried before. Using three dollar signs to mean $300. Or saying "three hundred roses. " Or claiming "I had a dream last night I want to tell you about. " It provides no legal cover. It provides no cover from your wife or girlfriend discovering your posts. It provides no cover if you are trying to keep your posts hidden from operators or workers.
    Depends on how creative you are. Yes, the examples you offer (strawmen examples) are transparent and would provide no cover. No argument there.

    Still, one can nonetheless write reports that communicate a great deal about services without being so transparent, especially where certain descriptions are capable of differing interpretations.

    This is not just about protecting yourself from law enforcement (which I'm not concerned about in this context), but a courtesy that ought to be extended to the clubs we frequent and the service providers who work so hard to leave us with so many happy memories during our holidays.

    For example, if I'm talking about driving on an autobahn with a speed limit of 100 kph, I might say something like, "The speed limit was 100 kph. Sure, I like to drive fast like everyone else (ok, maybe not as fast as Siroija but fast nonetheless). I won't say anything about the relationship between the speed of my car and this speed limit, but I can say that I was quite pleased with the performance of my car and I certainly cannot complain about the slowness of my vehicle. " Nothing in that description admits that I exceeded the speed limit, but at the same, that description still communicates plenty to the discerning reader. With a little more imagination, the possibilities are endless.

    In any case, it doesn't matter in the end as plenty of people are going to post what they want without extending the courtesy of discretion to our friends in Germany. Regretfully.

  7. #1664
    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    Bitumen. Yes, I saw things I thought I'd never see. I'm glad I made the effort to get to some of the more unusual venues.

    Even with the changing times my recent three days was one of my better trips, at least over the last five of the fifteen years I've been going to Germany. My conclusion was that there is life in the old dog Germany yet: I don't think we need to despair yet. We may need to work a bit harder than in recent years but we can still find gold.
    I think my last visits which actually coincided with yours saw that Germany had blown the hinges off the closet door. I was doing anal, getting public sex (special note for our Jnpr30) and getting all services.

    It better that the others do not come since there is more for the ones who do go.

    I told my friends who had not come yet to Germany that it has all gone wrong. Cancel your trips and stay at home. I am having too much fun.

  8. #1663
    Quote Originally Posted by Neurosynth  [View Original Post]
    Using "creative euphemisms" is a silly pursuit. I mean if folks just want to joke around with it, well have fun. But some folks seriously suggest such things as if they would provide any cover at all. They won't. Any serious police officer, FKK operator, or FKK worker is going to quickly understand what is being said. The only folks who will be confused by such a "code" will be newbies to the board.

    And believe me, it's all been tried before. Using three dollar signs to mean $300. Or saying "three hundred roses. " Or claiming "I had a dream last night I want to tell you about. " It provides no legal cover. It provides no cover from your wife or girlfriend discovering your posts. It provides no cover if you are trying to keep your posts hidden from operators or workers.
    One can always say, "One went riding without a saddle".

    For 300 one can use the term three ton. Although girls prefer the sound of a monkey.

  9. #1662
    I'm developing a bad habit of agreeing with Neurosynth Codes and crass allegories etc are totally transparent.

    What I propose to do is as I have always done.

    1. Check out places for myself, having got a general idea of which clubs I might like to try

    2. Respond to PMs from members who have done field reports.

    3. Ask questions of other members.

  10. #1661
    Bitumen. Yes, I saw things I thought I'd never see. I'm glad I made the effort to get to some of the more unusual venues.

    Even with the changing times my recent three days was one of my better trips, at least over the last five of the fifteen years I've been going to Germany. My conclusion was that there is life in the old dog Germany yet: I don't think we need to despair yet. We may need to work a bit harder than in recent years but we can still find gold.

  11. #1660
    Using "creative euphemisms" is a silly pursuit. I mean if folks just want to joke around with it, well have fun. But some folks seriously suggest such things as if they would provide any cover at all. They won't. Any serious police officer, FKK operator, or FKK worker is going to quickly understand what is being said. The only folks who will be confused by such a "code" will be newbies to the board.

    And believe me, it's all been tried before. Using three dollar signs to mean $300. Or saying "three hundred roses. " Or claiming "I had a dream last night I want to tell you about. " It provides no legal cover. It provides no cover from your wife or girlfriend discovering your posts. It provides no cover if you are trying to keep your posts hidden from operators or workers.

  12. #1659
    Quote Originally Posted by MonSooner  [View Original Post]
    It sucks the new rule. And it sucks
    Yeah, the new rule sucks and not in a good way.

    Quote Originally Posted by MonSooner  [View Original Post]
    Germany QUO VADIS.
    Yes, indeed, Germany, where are you going?

  13. #1658
    Codes for BB don't make any sense. Might be fun to get your head around some nice wordings, but that's it.

    HB.

  14. #1657
    Quote Originally Posted by HessenBub  [View Original Post]
    That's sarcasm, right?

    HB.
    I have no idea what Myrrh could have possibly been referring to when he referred to possibly leaving something inside a girl that may have been difficult to later retrieve.

    I can only assume that he was talking about food or drink that he may have shared with his girl. I can't think of anything else that would make sense here unless he was talking about filling her head with hopes and dreams or something.

    In any case, no need to analyze Myrrh's poetic musings. His poetic musings stand on their own and each reader can take away their own poetic interpretation of his fine writings. In fact, I look forward to reading everyone's creative poetic musings and ascribing my own personal interpretation to each.

  15. #1656

    Going all the way

    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    UH. No, I don't think it was clever. It was quite clear that Myrrh meant condom: it was not a code to fool anyone.

    Myrrh was winding me up and he didn't mean to be taken seriously. He was having a little bit of a laugh about my obfuscated information.
    No I obviously wasn't trying to be clever (incapable of). But UltraHappy may have hit upon an idea that we could play with for a bit. Even if you disagree that we should self-censor ourselves on this board just because of some new German law, it might be fun in posts going forward to see how many euphemistic expressions we can come up with for describing the activities that we enjoy but which are now illegal.

    We all know about the use of expressions such as 'happy ending' and 'full service' in countries where prostitution is illegal. Maybe some new expressions could be coined for the particular situation we find ourselves in here which could enter the lexicon, at least in the world of pay-for-play forums.

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