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  1. #1355

    Well said

    Quote Originally Posted by SoloTraveler  [View Original Post]

    The industry is way too complicated than we punters can imagine. Better stay away from the trouble behind the curtain, and focus only on fucking and punting.
    How true, great line.

  2. #1354

    Lover boy

    Quote Originally Posted by HessenBub  [View Original Post]
    They are brought here by "lover boys", boyfriends, pimps, girlfriends etc. Just do some research and you will find plenty of documentation on the internet.
    I want to become a Lover boy, I'm sick of paying for it. I want the girl to give me her money and then let me have the last fuck of the day, "gently does it I know your pussy is sore from all the pounding hun".

    In all seriousness I'm sure being a loverboy isn't all roses, I bet those girls bit*h at those guy nonstop.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TspjLIqH4sE

  3. #1353
    Quote Originally Posted by HessenBub  [View Original Post]
    Drugs are a part of the game in all of the clubs. Marihuana, alchohol, Cocaine and other substances. How do they get here? They are brought here by "lover boys", boyfriends, pimps, girlfriends etc. Just do some research and you will find plenty of documentation on the internet. It may be an uncomfortable topic for some punters, but the younger the girl, the less educated and only Romanian speaking, the higher the chances she didn't find the way into the business all by herself.

    HB.
    Of course, poor Romanian or Bulgarian girls, from deep Moldovan part, or deep Bulgarian country, don't find the way to brothels on their own.

    About drugs, not only in low level AO clubs, but also in the biggest clubs, just look at some famous girls eyes, and German girls at VIP GT.

  4. #1352
    Quote Originally Posted by Myrrh  [View Original Post]
    Are these girls on something?

    I am sure that some will say that uncomfortable questions such as this, just like many others, are best left unasked. For example, the other question which never ever seems to be asked is how uneducated girls from impoverished backgrounds manage to travel over a 1000 kilometers across 3 different countries to end up working in a sex club of a country for which they don't speak a word of the language?

    There seems to be some sort of unwritten code on here not to ask these sort of things.
    Drugs are a part of the game in all of the clubs. Marihuana, alchohol, Cocaine and other substances. How do they get here? They are brought here by "lover boys", boyfriends, pimps, girlfriends etc. Just do some research and you will find plenty of documentation on the internet. It may be an uncomfortable topic for some punters, but the younger the girl, the less educated and only Romanian speaking, the higher the chances she didn't find the way into the business all by herself.

    HB.

  5. #1351
    Quote Originally Posted by Myrrh  [View Original Post]
    There seems to be some sort of unwritten code on here not to ask these sort of things.
    You're not alone.

    I found this club a bit bizarre as well.

    Regarding the eyes, there was a woman I took called Alex, and her eyes were just like your description.

    The industry is way too complicated than we punters can imagine. Better stay away from the trouble behind the curtain, and focus only on fucking and punting.

  6. #1350
    Quote Originally Posted by Myrrh  [View Original Post]
    Are these girls on something? I am really surprised that this question hasn't been posed before given the multitude of reports that there have been on here. But just because nobody else has asked it does not mean that I shouldn't be asking it because I have noticed that when I look into the eyes of some of the girls that they seem to be completely unfocused, glazed, wandering all over the place with pupils that are definitely an unnatural size.

    The clubs are darkened places so it is easy to be mistaken on this but I definitely don't think it is my imagination as I have noticed it clearly when I am outside at Dietz in the back yard in the light when some of the girls come out as well.

    So, what am I trying to say here?

    For a start, I am not accusing the girls of any wrong doing. There are plenty of legal substances which could make the girl's eyes appear the way that they seem to be. For example, in the UK and elsewhere in the world, there are many so called completely legal, herb based drugs called 'legal highs' which are very popular amongst clubbers and party goers. Then there are many types of drugs which are effectively 'tolerated' by most western governments even though they are technically illegal, like marijuana, as long as a user only has a small amount for personal use and isn't dealing them...
    I think you are may be from India. There are so many nice club with a lot of very nice premises and girls for me no interest to go in this kind of dark FKK club. Romanian girls are very clever and even they were not able to go long to school they perfectly know what is the life. Again they are part of the European community and for them it is not too difficult to travel to Germany. For many European wealthy man is it just a dream to get a Romanian girl friend.

  7. #1349

    Zombie ficking

    Are these girls on something? I am really surprised that this question hasn't been posed before given the multitude of reports that there have been on here. But just because nobody else has asked it does not mean that I shouldn't be asking it because I have noticed that when I look into the eyes of some of the girls that they seem to be completely unfocused, glazed, wandering all over the place with pupils that are definitely an unnatural size.

    The clubs are darkened places so it is easy to be mistaken on this but I definitely don't think it is my imagination as I have noticed it clearly when I am outside at Dietz in the back yard in the light when some of the girls come out as well.

    So, what am I trying to say here?

    For a start, I am not accusing the girls of any wrong doing. There are plenty of legal substances which could make the girl's eyes appear the way that they seem to be. For example, in the UK and elsewhere in the world, there are many so called completely legal, herb based drugs called 'legal highs' which are very popular amongst clubbers and party goers. Then there are many types of drugs which are effectively 'tolerated' by most western governments even though they are technically illegal, like marijuana, as long as a user only has a small amount for personal use and isn't dealing them.

    Alcohol could have a similar effect on the girls eyes but it definitely is not this because alcohol use is strictly forbidden in these clubs (it would impair the girl's performances) and the girls do not appear drunk with slurred speech and uncoordinated movements.

    In the gay world, which for obvious reasons I don't know too much about, I understand that a lot of guys take an easily obtainable drug called 'poppers' (amyl nitrate) and these have been openly on sale in sex shops in the UK and around the world for many years. This substance makes you relaxed and compliant and if you go to a club to have your ass reamed by lots of strangers then it will definitely help you if you take something like this.

    Which brings us to the reason why these girls may want to take these sorts of things. Groups of them are penned up in a darkened club for up to 12+ hours a day, in very limited space with repetitive, boring pop music blaring non-stop, servicing a long line of mainly old, unattractive men. The girls are cheerful, talkative and in good mood much of the time and this could be difficult to achieve day after day without some sort of 'assistance'.

    I am not saying that this is a situation peculiar to Dietz club as I have noticed this in the eyes of girls at the other RTC clubs and at other places like gangbang clubs, although to be honest I have noticed it more at Dietz than elsewhere.

    Is it a problem? Not as such, as I am sure that the authorities carry out occasional checks on these clubs and would be expected to act if they noticed something was untoward. However personally I find it a bit sad to be having sex with a girl who is completely spaced out during the act. Having said that though, the girls may say the same about guys who need to drink alcohol and take drugs like Viagra in order to be able to have sex with them. But then guys are only taking these every now and then and not every day.

    I am sure that some will say that uncomfortable questions such as this, just like many others, are best left unasked. For example, the other question which never ever seems to be asked is how uneducated girls from impoverished backgrounds manage to travel over a 1000 kilometers across 3 different countries to end up working in a sex club of a country for which they don't speak a word of the language?

    There seems to be some sort of unwritten code on here not to ask these sort of things.

  8. #1348
    Quote Originally Posted by SoloTraveler  [View Original Post]
    What I really want to express is as follows.

    In Germany, P4P is legal, and it has all sorts of P4P venues, from all kinds of sex clubs, red light districts, to the most primitive street hookers, all of which can be enjoyed by anyone with an inexpensive price.

    On the other hand, in other countries where P4P is illegal, they have literally nothing to offer except for some really expensive private clubs and escorts agencies. Of course you can always have some fun here and there, but it is just not as relaxed and comfortable as when you are punting in Germany.

    All in all, if we have to make some analogies regarding P4P. Food and restaurants of different type is well suited.

    Let's say you are hungry right now, and need something to eat for dinner.

    In Germany, you have all kinds of choice from 2 EUR Doner Kebab, 7 EUR McDonald's, 15 EUR Bistro set meal, to 50 EUR steak. I would probably try McDonald's and Bistro. So, I feed myself with 22 EUR, with plenty of diversity..
    If you are sex hungry in London, you can get a cheap and quick BJ plus one position for 30 £. And anything up to a 1000 top escort.

  9. #1347
    Quote Originally Posted by SoloTraveler  [View Original Post]
    What I really want to express is as follows.

    In Germany, P4P is legal, and it has all sorts of P4P venues, from all kinds of sex clubs, red light districts, to the most primitive street hookers, all of which can be enjoyed by anyone with an inexpensive price.

    On the other hand, in other countries where P4P is illegal, they have literally nothing to offer except for some really expensive private clubs and escorts agencies. Of course you can always have some fun here and there, but it is just not as relaxed and comfortable as when you are punting in Germany.

    All in all, if we have to make some analogies regarding P4P. Food and restaurants of different type is well suited.

    Let's say you are hungry right now, and need something to eat for dinner..
    Yes and no, in France or Italy even it is illegal you can find a lot of escorts cheaper than in Germany. FKK is a another story more or less just available in Germany but also not so cheap if you take 1 hour including some extras you will be at 250 euros not far from a escort.

  10. #1346
    Quote Originally Posted by SoloTraveler  [View Original Post]
    However, on the other hand, if RTCs are Aldi, why most nations except German-speaking nations don't have even one Aldi?
    What I really want to express is as follows.

    In Germany, P4P is legal, and it has all sorts of P4P venues, from all kinds of sex clubs, red light districts, to the most primitive street hookers, all of which can be enjoyed by anyone with an inexpensive price.

    On the other hand, in other countries where P4P is illegal, they have literally nothing to offer except for some really expensive private clubs and escorts agencies. Of course you can always have some fun here and there, but it is just not as relaxed and comfortable as when you are punting in Germany.

    All in all, if we have to make some analogies regarding P4P. Food and restaurants of different type is well suited.

    Let's say you are hungry right now, and need something to eat for dinner.

    In Germany, you have all kinds of choice from 2 EUR Doner Kebab, 7 EUR McDonald's, 15 EUR Bistro set meal, to 50 EUR steak. I would probably try McDonald's and Bistro. So, I feed myself with 22 EUR, with plenty of diversity.

    In other countries, 4 EUR Doner Kebab and 100 EUR steak are your only options. Of course you can still feed yourself with lots of double-priced Doner Kebab in these countries, but that is just not as pleasant and satisfactory as dining in Germany.

    Lastly, yes, some people including me once left negative comments about FKK Dietzenbach, saying their women are too ugly.

    However, the judgment is judged by German club standards.

    If FKK Dietzenbach is opened in other countries where there are no sex clubs at all, I have no doubt that many punters and I will frequent it everyday. LOL.

  11. #1345

    Sara

    Quote Originally Posted by DFWdude  [View Original Post]
    Was looking on another board and saw a new girl Sara is now present. Is this the same Sara from about a year ago? I had a GREAT public three some with her and Anna on a couch. Wanking had fun watching? Also noticed a few other new names. Any feedback on new girls?
    Same girl. Returned about a month ago. She still looks good & a great session!

  12. #1344

    Sara?

    Was looking on another board and saw a new girl Sara is now present. Is this the same Sara from about a year ago? I had a GREAT public three some with her and Anna on a couch. Wanking had fun watching? Also noticed a few other new names. Any feedback on new girls?

  13. #1343
    Quote Originally Posted by SoloTraveler  [View Original Post]
    Aldi, Testco, Carrefour, Rewe, etc.

    LOL!

    It is funny to see these analogies.

    However, on the other hand, if RTCs are Aldi, why most nations except German-speaking nations don't have even one Aldi?

    By the way, while some British members being actively punting around Germany, can any British please tell me where I could possibly find any venues which resembles Germen FKK / Sauna clubs in the UK?

    I have been searching information for weeks, and the UK seems to be a sex prison.



    Can't believe I will be stuck there for a month in the near future without opportunities to sneak to the mainland.
    No FKK like club.

    Some parties, like Phoenix club: 6 girls, 2 h, max 10 guys, sex as much as you can eat, but not AO.

    Thousands of girls from all over the world on adultwork, many offering AO.

    Thousand of Chinese MP, all offering HJ, BJ and more can often be negotiated.

    Soho walk-ups where 10 min quickie BJ and FS, can be had for 25 £.

    Hundreds of 1000 £ top escorts.

    And everything in between I have known worst "sex prison"! (Think of France, Italy, the US.).

  14. #1342
    Quote Originally Posted by Neurosynth  [View Original Post]
    Please move these generic discussions of BBBJ and AO to a general thread. Discussion here should be specific to Dietzenbach.

    Speaking of which I was there the other day and finally had a chance to spend some time with Valentina. She is the counter-example to those who claim all the women at Dietzenbach are ugly or average at best. I think she would do fine working at one of the large FKK's. She has an interesting look though. I wouldn't be surprised if she has a grandfather or great-grandfather who was a Black GI or some such. Gorgeous though. You're probably not going to get much couch action from her. But behind closed doors she's as good a kisser as I've found at an FKK. Quiet (probably because she speaks *no* English LOL) but sexually very expressive.
    If she's Romanian with dark skin then she is probably mixed with gypsy blood. That's not uncommon in Romania.

  15. #1341
    Quote Originally Posted by SvenFKK  [View Original Post]
    There is something called the Private Club in Birmingham. More like a Partytreff, but with fewer girls and too many guys per girl. Occasionally swinger couples come by. No comparison to Germany, but good for the UK and reasonable cheap.
    Nothing at all like a partyreff.

    The Private club is more like a gangbang club, which in fact is what it is, where a few girls (typically no more than 3 to 4) take on many guys in group sessions and not on a one to one basis. Food and drink is not included in the price like at a partytreff.

    Your right, it is no comparison to Germany so expect lots of pushing and shoving and flying elbows. Also condoms for full sex is militantly enforced so yet another reason why this place shouldn't be discussed here.

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