FKK Dietzenbach

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Thank you for some significant recent contributions to this thread Jimmy Boy but I am still wrestling with what seem to be some inconsistencies and illogicalities in what you say.

You turned down Dana at Dietz who had saggy boobs but then you went with Melissa at Freude who had "somewhat saggy boobs".

You were afraid to go with a girl at Dietz because she reminded you of Raisa who had not given you good sessions in the past. Yet you hunted down a girl at Freude who you said "ignored me all day" and made no attempt to approach you even though she knew you were clearly interested in her.

I've seen Anita and chubby doesn't describe it. She is fat. She is short and as wide as she is tall. Almost like a round dough ball. I recall catching sight of her while talking to a German customer and we both agreed that it did not matter what she offered, none of us were going with her.

You said that the girls at Grimberg "did not look so good" except for one girl who refused to go with you and at Romantika you were "going to walk out" until you were implored to stay. So it seems that it is not just Dietz but other RTCs that are not meeting with expectations.

However at VV there are apparently 5 girls there who are far prettier than Raissa who was universally acknowledged on this board and others as one of the most attractive RTC girls in memory?

Hitherto the reports from VV were consistent in that the girls were unattractive, plain or ordinary apart from a couple. I wonder what it is that brought about this sudden change in Villa Venus's fortunes?

I confess to some inconsistency, since, as Emerson said, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. ", but not the illogical label. I didn't go wiith Dana not because of her saggy boobs (which were only a little saggy) but because she reminded me of Raisa and seemed to have the same Princess attitude. Had I not gone with Raisa previously and had those less than satisfactory experiences, I cetainly would have tried to go with Dana, her attitude and indifference be dammed. However, having previously gone with Raisa dulled the need to go with her twin, while Alexa was a girl I had not tried before and wanted to experience.

You are correct about Anita. I was being kind. I first went with her In November of last year and had a great session with her and with her and Lisa. When I saw her in April, she had gained some weight and I did not with her, but did go twice with Lisa. When I saw her in July, I was taken aback by how much weight she had gained and thought to myself there was no way I could go with her. However, as other than Beatrix and Alexa, there was not a great deal to choose from, I acquiesced when she asked me to sit with her and talk, while fully intending not to go with her. However, she overcame my resistance with her touching and smiling and got me hard in spite of myself and so I went with her and had a good session. Shows that for me, at least, a pretty face and a sweet personality can overcome serious body issues. I also may have felt I owed her a session since I didn't go with her the last time.

I did not state that all clubs in the NWR were all better than Dietzenbach, just that the area was better for this type of activity. The problem with Dietzenbach is that it is the only club of its kind in the area (that I am aware of). If you don't like the lineup, you're fucked (or not, unfortunately). In the NWR, within an hour drive or less, you have VV, La Luna, Grimberg, Freude, Romantika, Verena, plus probably a few other clubs whose names I don't remember, so if you don't like the lineup in one club you can easily go to another and see if it is any better. What I regretted about going to Dietzenbach was that I could have stayed another day in the NWR and sessioned a few more times rather than wasting my last day in Germany with no A / O sessions. I will not do that again, but if you are not in the NWR area and are only in Frankfurt, then Dietzenbach is probably your only real option for A / O, no matter what the girls look like, which may be why people actually pay to fuck the girls there.

I said that Marianne and Jasmin at VV were prettier. To clarify, I found the face and body package of these two girls better than the face and body package of Dana.

[Vito Corleone]

Planning my next trip! I was not planning on going back, since it is a long journey from the west coast of the USA, but I figure what the heck! My dates as of now are August 26-28. Thinking of spending all three days at Dietzenbach. I have not been to this club in the warmner weather, I have been to Oase in warmer weather. How is the ventilation in the rooms, main area. As far as I remember Oase got hot as hell and stuffy. Also is it ok to bring some chocolates and things for some of my favorite girls (Anna, Alice, Bianca? Not sure of that's ok. Can wait for this trip!

Unless you are in a room with a window, ventilation is crap. Those crappy rooms on the main floor are also crap. When my cock is marinating in some hot young tight pussy, the sauna feel doesn't bother me until I'm done.

The girls love gifts from clients.

[Vito Corleone]

Anna, she seems "shy" and not very sociable but when she said that have only 19 yo I really want to try her. In the room she gave me a great BBBJ, I was very tired and I had difficult to make my cock hard but she did her job, try to put condom 2 times but everytime that make me lose the erection. Looked at this lovely and young pussy and I thought that I must to fuck, so I decided for my first AO and I fucked her doggy till CIP. Obviously now I'm paranoid!!

Great report CG.

Anna seems shy / aloof because she's very young & speaks zero English. What a hot piece of ass she is. I was also paranoid the first time I slide into her BB. I was paranoid I wouldn't last 5 min!

[Vito Corleone]

There were two Danas in the pictures by reception. One Dana was average and plain looking. The one I referred to is practically a twin of Raissa and was pretty and seemed pretty fit (Vito, perhaps you meant the other Dana as having a soft loose body). She also didn't seem meek and mild but more of a Princess attitude. The reason I didn't go with her was that I had been with Raissa a few times and the sessions was not very good, and it seemed she would be a repeat of those sessions.

I came back on Sunday and did Marianne and also Jazmin, who had just returned that day from Romania, a tall, very pretty girl with a very good body. Both were far better than anyone at Dietzenbach, even the Raissa twin.

As you can see, I don't seek perfection in these clubs but the girls have to be at least somewhat attractive for me to do them, and I did not find that in Dietzenbach (except for the Raissa twin).

Great report Jimmy Boy!

Not sure who the new Dana is. If she's a Raissa twin then she must be smoking hot! Jasmine is a hottie. 6'1 w / o heels! Those legs, legs legs legs!

Beatrix at F39 is attractive, but not hot enough to bang her covered. I look forward to checking out this Marianne babe next trip!

[Myrrh]

As you can see, I don't seek perfection in these clubs but the girls have to be at least somewhat attractive for me to do them, and I did not find that in Dietzenbach (except for the Raissa twin).

Thank you for some significant recent contributions to this thread Jimmy Boy but I am still wrestling with what seem to be some inconsistencies and illogicalities in what you say.

You turned down Dana at Dietz who had saggy boobs but then you went with Melissa at Freude who had "somewhat saggy boobs".

You were afraid to go with a girl at Dietz because she reminded you of Raisa who had not given you good sessions in the past. Yet you hunted down a girl at Freude who you said "ignored me all day" and made no attempt to approach you even though she knew you were clearly interested in her.

As for the girls at Freude.

I've seen Anita and chubby doesn't describe it. She is fat. She is short and as wide as she is tall. Almost like a round dough ball. I recall catching sight of her while talking to a German customer and we both agreed that it did not matter what she offered, none of us were going with her.

I waited a long time to go with Beatrix as she was busy with guys all day. In the end I wondered what the fuss was about. It was not so much the fact that she didn't do AO as that she was too shy to give a blow job whilst we sat on the couch and in the room her BJ was so insipid that I called time early. She was disappointed that I did not complete but not as much as I was.

As for the girls at other RTCs apart from Dietz.

You said that the girls at Grimberg "did not look so good" except for one girl who refused to go with you and at Romantika you were "going to walk out" until you were implored to stay. So it seems that it is not just Dietz but other RTCs that are not meeting with expectations.

However at VV there are apparently 5 girls there who are far prettier than Raissa who was universally acknowledged on this board and others as one of the most attractive RTC girls in memory?

Hitherto the reports from VV were consistent in that the girls were unattractive, plain or ordinary apart from a couple. I wonder what it is that brought about this sudden change in Villa Venus's fortunes?

[Christian G]

First time in this RTC. I and my friend arrived around 13.30, ring a bell and a nice blonde girl (Simona) come to greeting us. Check out the showcase, 15 girls all did AO, here unlike the RTC in NRW the photo does not say the "specialties".

Pay 40 euro, undressed, shower, take a coke and look around. I decided to start with Simona, a blonde bulgarian girl. Her english is poor, so we move in the room. I asked her if she did anal, and she said yes. Start with a good BBBJ, wear condom and start with a cowgirl, move to doggystyle. Tried to fuck her ass but she said no no. WTF! Before she said "yes no problem" This really let me down. Fucked her doggy till cum.

After some rest and some food, I sat near Gina a lovely big boobs 21 yo from Romania, her english was ok and she offered me a 3 some with Vanesa. I thought "why not" if she offer me maybe they are a good team. 3 some was not a great choice because Vanessa speak a good italian but her service was too much mechanical, Gina was good and GFE. They gave me a double BBBJ, and I fuck them both in cowgirl and doggy. After my cum, they open the door of the room and we realx together on the bed and chatting while them smoked a cigarette, I asked which girls do anal in the club, and they said that only Simona did it this day. Fuck this make me angry and said them that she not let me fuck her ass and Vanessa suggest me to complain with TF, but I didn't because she don't speak english and also if I complain this it would not change anything. Is a fourth time that bulgarian girls had this bad behavior in RTC!

Third room was with Ramona, 28 yo from Romania. She is a small girl with small boobs and nice ass, she tried to do her best, but her skills are not so great and this time I was unable to finish.

I took a long rest and thought about next room, I would like to took Gina again only me and her this time but I also would like to fuck Anna that have a great body and look cute. Gina was busy, so I decided to sat next to Anna, she seems "shy" and not very sociable but when she said that have only 19 yo I really want to try her. In the room she gave me a great BBBJ, I was very tired and I had difficult to make my cock hard but she did her job, try to put condom 2 times but everytime that make me lose the erection. Looked at this lovely and young pussy and I thought that I must to fuck, so I decided for my first AO and I fucked her doggy till CIP. Obviously now I'm paranoid!!

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Dana who you mentioned above is plain and ordinary looking to me. Not as good looking face wise as several others like Bianca, Nadin (if she doesn't show her teeth), Alice, Oana, Anna, Gina. In fact I only tried Dana last after I had tried many of the others. Almost like an afterthought. Also no one has ever reported that she had an attitude. In fact she seems meek and mild.

Raissa, erstwhile of Arabella, is a genuinely attractive girl who is friendly and chatty before you get her to the room but unfortunately is brisk and business like once she gets you there and puts you in the process. But in no way has she got the same attitude as Alice who looks like she is on a 24/7/365 period.

What's one man's meat is another man's poison but the consensus that has emerged on these pages is that, of the RTC's, Freude 39 is the one that has more girls that guys find generally attractive. It also has one of the largest cast of girls at 20+ to choose. But this is heavily countered by the fact that the more attractive girls are invariably non-AO or AO-lite. Also the atmosphere there is more restrictive with signs formally forbidding AO and some girls not wanting to get involved in any public action at all. It is much more free and easy at somewhere like Dietz.

After F39 there is little to separate the other RTC clubs in terms of the looks of the girls. However if you are paying an entrance fee then it would make sense to me to go to a club which has a large number of girls so that you have a greater chance of finding at least one or two who are doable. Places like Dietz (and probably VV) have around 18+ girls most days. The other clubs have around a dozen or less.

When I read that you turned your nose up at all the girls in Dietz I assumed that you were someone who was conditioned to only going to the proper FKKs. But then you mentioned that you were going to stick to the NRW AO clubs which have lineups that are much more appealing so I was wondering which ones these would be. Arabella? Villa Venus? Grimberg?

Others like Vito Corleone, who's judgement I trust, have said that they have done a 180 degree turn and made a sharp exit when they have visited these places recently.

Lineup must have drastically changed in all the AO clubs. I was there a month ago & the lu at Dietz was better than all the NRW lu combined. Was Alice, Anna, Lily at Dietz? Maybe off day or vacation? Gina with the great heavenly rack with nice slim bod, kind of cute face with dark gypsy skin. Alina & Nadine are OK. Dana has her moments, but soft loose body. Even Andrea looks good even though covered only. Roxy is getting bigger & bigger but still decent looking. Forgot the rest of the names.

Nothing special in the NRW. Only Kati, Roxana & Lilly at Grim belong with the lu at Dietz (Jasmine from VV was on vacation). Lisa & Janina at F39 above average & the the the the the the the that's all folks!

There were two Danas in the pictures by reception. One Dana was average and plain looking. The one I referred to is practically a twin of Raissa and was pretty and seemed pretty fit (Vito, perhaps you meant the other Dana as having a soft loose body). She also didn't seem meek and mild but more of a Princess attitude. The reason I didn't go with her was that I had been with Raissa a few times and the sessions was not very good, and it seemed she would be a repeat of those sessions.

I had four sessions over two days at VV. On Friday I did Lily (Ro) for old times sake and Alana (BU) because I had been cock-blocked in getting to her pretty Bulgarian friend Mariannne. Both of these were better looking than the girls at Dietzenbach (except for the Raissa twin) and they were not even the prettiest ones there. There were three prettier ones: Marianne; one girl who totally ignored me; and one who left at 9 PM before I was ready for her after going with Lily.

I came back on Sunday and did Marianne and also Jazmin, who had just returned that day from Romania, a tall, very pretty girl with a very good body. Both were far better than anyone at Dietzenbach, even the Raissa twin.

On Saturday I did four girls at Freude: Beatrix, a pretty blonde with very nice body (but not A / O); Anita, chubby blonde (even chubbier than before) for old times sake and to fuck her ass; Melissa, blonde with pretty face but somewhat saggy boobs; and a brunette whose name I don't recall. There was also Alexa, a beautiful brunette who ignored me all day and when I asked her if she would be free after her lunch, she curtly said she was busy (which she was, but never came by after to chat even though I was obviously interested). All of them were prettier than the ones at Dietzenbach, with Beatrix and Alexa way above them.

On Sunday I went to Grimberg to see Micky but she wasn't there and the pictures at the reception (plus the girls I could see) did not look so good (except for Kati, who does let me fuck her anymore because I fucked too long in our initial session) so I left and went to Romantika. Only 5 girls on hand. Was going to walk out when Alina came over and asked me to stay. Her face was OK and she had a nice slim body so I stayed, thinking I would do just her, since the others were not doable because of body or face or both. However, Simone's attractiveness grew on me (especially her very nice tits) so I sessioned with her also.

As you can see, I don't seek perfection in these clubs but the girls have to be at least somewhat attractive for me to do them, and I did not find that in Dietzenbach (except for the Raissa twin).

[Sportsman]

This compares to Alice, who I assume is the 'hard-looking face' blonde you mentioned.

Alice has been on vacation since the end of June. The "hard-looking face" blonde JimmyBoy99 saw was probably either Melana or Susi. Both are in their mid to late 30's. Melana's face has more mileage on her and definitive more "hard looking". She has been working at Dietzenbach on and off for a while, Susi just started there few weeks ago.

[Myrrh]

. 19 women were present (according to the number of pictures at the reception counter). The worst line-up I have ever seen in any club (except M-Exclusiv); most of the women ranging from just unfuckable to horrific. Most I wouldn't fuck for free, and some of them would have had to pay me to fuck them. Only three possibly doable. Only one, Dana (tall skinny brunette with hair tied up in a bun) was pretty and had a good body (although her tits were somewhat saggy). However, she reminded me too much of Raissa (formerly of Arabella) and seemed to have her same attitude, so I could never pull the trigger and go with her. Another woman, a blonde, had a good body for her age but her face was too hard-looking. The last, a brunette, had an acceptable body but I didn't like her face.

For those of you who have gone here and actually fucked these women, my hat is off to you. You have much stronger stomachs than I do. I will stick to the NWR A / O clubs, which have lineups that are much more appealing to me.

I know that people have rounded on me for criticizing the looks of girls at clubs saying that beauty is in the eye of the beholder but, having read your account, I now know that this statement could not be more true.

Dana who you mentioned above is plain and ordinary looking to me. Not as good looking face wise as several others like Bianca, Nadin (if she doesn't show her teeth), Alice, Oana, Anna, Gina. In fact I only tried Dana last after I had tried many of the others. Almost like an afterthought. Also no one has ever reported that she had an attitude. In fact she seems meek and mild.

This compares to Alice, who I assume is the 'hard-looking face' blonde you mentioned. Now she is a true ice-cold mannered cow. Good body for her age is a great description because that hard-bitten, sour face of hers make her look a lot older than she probably is.

Raissa, erstwhile of Arabella, is a genuinely attractive girl who is friendly and chatty before you get her to the room but unfortunately is brisk and business like once she gets you there and puts you in the process. But in no way has she got the same attitude as Alice who looks like she is on a 24/7/365 period.

But if you could not "pull the trigger" with someone who looks like Raissa, who is genuinely attractive, and you could not pull the trigger with any of the 19 girls at Dietz because they repulsed you then I am wondering just who you could pull the trigger with.

What's one man's meat is another man's poison but the consensus that has emerged on these pages is that, of the RTC's, Freude 39 is the one that has more girls that guys find generally attractive. It also has one of the largest cast of girls at 20+ to choose. But this is heavily countered by the fact that the more attractive girls are invariably non-AO or AO-lite. Also the atmosphere there is more restrictive with signs formally forbidding AO and some girls not wanting to get involved in any public action at all. It is much more free and easy at somewhere like Dietz.

After F39 there is little to separate the other RTC clubs in terms of the looks of the girls. However if you are paying an entrance fee then it would make sense to me to go to a club which has a large number of girls so that you have a greater chance of finding at least one or two who are doable. Places like Dietz (and probably VV) have around 18+ girls most days. The other clubs have around a dozen or less.

When I read that you turned your nose up at all the girls in Dietz I assumed that you were someone who was conditioned to only going to the proper FKKs. But then you mentioned that you were going to stick to the NRW AO clubs which have lineups that are much more appealing so I was wondering which ones these would be.

La Luna is in NRW but you pay double the price for AO as you do at RTCs and the girls are not that much better looking.

Arabella? Villa Venus? Grimberg?

Others like Vito Corleone, who's judgement I trust, have said that they have done a 180 degree turn and made a sharp exit when they have visited these places recently.

[Vito Corleone]

The worst line-up I have ever seen in any club (except M-Exclusiv); most of the women ranging from just unfuckable to horrific. Most I wouldn't fuck for free, and some of them would have had to pay me to fuck them. Only three possibly doable.

For those of you who have gone here and actually fucked these women, my hat is off to you. You have much stronger stomachs than I do. I will stick to the NWR A / O clubs, which have lineups that are much more appealing to me.

Lineup must have drastically changed in all the AO clubs. I was there a month ago & the lu at Dietz was better than all the NRW lu combined. Was Alice, Anna, Lily at Dietz? Maybe off day or vacation? Gina with the great heavenly rack with nice slim bod, kind of cute face with dark gypsy skin. Alina & Nadine are OK. Dana has her moments, but soft loose body. Even Andrea looks good even though covered only. Roxy is getting bigger & bigger but still decent looking. Forgot the rest of the names.

Nothing special in the NRW. Only Kati, Roxana & Lilly at Grim belong with the lu at Dietz (Jasmine from VV was on vacation). Lisa & Janina at F39 above average & the the the the the the the that's all folks!

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Arrived 2 PM. Asked the receptionist if there would be a problem going out about 4-5 PM to get dinner and returning without paying again. She said no as long as it wasn't for too long (less than an hour or two). Paid the 40 Euro entry. Fortunately, there was no need to prepay for a session (as in VV) or choose up front how many sessions I wanted (as in Freude 39), otherwise I might have wasted another 30 Euro or did a fuck I didn't want to do.

Had some coffee after I changed, watching the women to see who I would do. 19 women were present (according to the number of pictures at the reception counter). The worst line-up I have ever seen in any club (except M-Exclusiv); most of the women ranging from just unfuckable to horrific. Most I wouldn't fuck for free, and some of them would have had to pay me to fuck them. Only three possibly doable. Only one, Dana (tall skinny brunette with hair tied up in a bun) was pretty and had a good body (although her tits were somewhat saggy). However, she reminded me too much of Raissa (formerly of Arabella) and seemed to have her same attitude, so I could never pull the trigger and go with her. Another woman, a blonde, had a good body for her age but her face was too hard-looking. The last, a brunette, had an acceptable body but I didn't like her face.

I walked around and sat for an hour and a half, looking at the women, trying to will myself to fuck one of them, but couldn't do it, so I decided to leave. When I was leaving the receptionist asked me if I was coming back, assuming I was going to dinner. I told her no. Surprised, she asked why. I told her there was no one I liked and left.

For those of you who have gone here and actually fucked these women, my hat is off to you. You have much stronger stomachs than I do. I will stick to the NWR A / O clubs, which have lineups that are much more appealing to me.

[Sportsman]

I was in Dietznbach few times two weeks ago during the hottest days in Frankfurt / Dusseldorf areas. Mid 90 to high 90's everyday. The club ventilation was poor but bearable (barely). Most rooms don't even have fans. Room one has a door leading to the roof top which helps. The main room has 3 to 4 fans.

They have a small kiddie pool at the patio now. It was actually being used, including me for amusement. I first joined Vanessa and Dani in the pool, then Anna and Madi came in also. Some of the local punters were laughing seeing 5 of us in the small pool. Another amusing sight I saw was Nadine was on her knees giving a guy BJ at the patio. Vanessa was standing next to them fanning them using a seat cushion. I called out "Now that's service. " They were giving out popsicles in the afternoon which was nice.

The temperature should be a lot cooler by late August.

[DFWdude]

Planning my next trip! I was not planning on going back, since it is a long journey from the west coast of the USA, but I figure what the heck! My dates as of now are August 26-28. Thinking of spending all three days at Dietzenbach. I have not been to this club in the warmner weather, I have been to Oase in warmer weather. How is the ventilation in the rooms, main area. As far as I remember Oase got hot as hell and stuffy. Also is it ok to bring some chocolates and things for some of my favorite girls (Anna, Alice, Bianca? Not sure of that's ok. Can wait for this trip!

[Christian G]

Andrea is still there, but her services only condom. Not an AO girl.

Thank's Vito, no problem for me if she isn't AO girl. I not go in a RTC for AO but for cheap price included CIM and Anal.

[Vito Corleone]

After trying almost all of the RTC in NRW (Grimberg, Arabella, Villa Venus, Villa Romantika, Verena and F39), I will make my debut in Dietzenbach next week. From your post I remember that not many ladies here provide anal sex. I remember a blonde Andrea with glass and nipple's piercing. Is she still there? Other girls that offer anal?

Thanks in advance.

Andrea is still there, but her services only condom. Not an AO girl.