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  1. #413
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanuk327  [View Original Post]
    Just curious. What is the difference between LU and optics of the girls. For me they both mean the same.
    Optic means nice looking girl. LU is wider definition. It means not just or only nice looking girls, but good performers as well.

  2. #412
    Quote Originally Posted by PussyLiccker  [View Original Post]
    I guess if relaxing atmosphere is that high of importance. I have visited Panthera before the acquisition. That visit didn't give a good impression of the LU nor the optics of the girls. There were two girls that were my types, and the other girls were just not doable for me. Some were milfy and overweight or others just didn't apeal to me. It was beyond taste, it's about tolerance. I went with one girl, and decided to cut my losses and head for Aca which the optics of the girls are on another level there are way more girls there. Although service is important, girls got to have some level of looks for me to get myself to session with them. Sure Aca is not a service club guaranteed every girl will do the same thing. If I didn't run into good sessions at Aca I wouldn't be attending. I go to club for the girls, so rest of the stuff is secondary to me. Like clientele, food, facilities, and etc. I try not to make judgments based on a single visit, but at the same time I do take things into consideration to make an estimate if it's worth visiting again.
    Just curious. What is the difference between LU and optics of the girls. For me they both mean the same.

  3. #411
    I guess if relaxing atmosphere is that high of importance. I have visited Panthera before the acquisition. That visit didn't give a good impression of the LU nor the optics of the girls. There were two girls that were my types, and the other girls were just not doable for me. Some were milfy and overweight or others just didn't apeal to me. It was beyond taste, it's about tolerance. I went with one girl, and decided to cut my losses and head for Aca which the optics of the girls are on another level there are way more girls there. Although service is important, girls got to have some level of looks for me to get myself to session with them. Sure Aca is not a service club guaranteed every girl will do the same thing. If I didn't run into good sessions at Aca I wouldn't be attending. I go to club for the girls, so rest of the stuff is secondary to me. Like clientele, food, facilities, and etc. I try not to make judgments based on a single visit, but at the same time I do take things into consideration to make an estimate if it's worth visiting again.

  4. #410
    Of course it depends on your taste, if you think optics (beautiful girls) are the most important, and service of the girls not so much, you best visit GT (but NOT on an Friday or staruday evening!) or Acapulco. If you want more relaxed atmosphere and good looking girls offering good service, indeed Babylon and PSR are good options (but in summer period can be quiet). Aca Gold is indeed not so good anymore as Panthera, but since there are stull 6-8 Panthera girls left, you can have a very good session indeed, and the optics of the new girls is good too (like Aca, but they lack in service as well as in Aca.).

    Enjoy!

  5. #409
    Quote Originally Posted by TeddyTed  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    I am planning to go ACA Gold soon and would like to know few things.

    1. Haus Panthera had changed its name to Acapulco Gold, right?

    2. Do you recommend this FKK as my first FKK ever? Seems like reports here on AG is bad.

    But the entrance price appeals to me, which is 20 euro for entry during happy hours.

    3. Any advice for me?

    Thanks,

    TT
    AcaG (former HP) does not worth a visit any longer, IMHO. Service is terrible now, all best girls have left. First FKK visit should be memorable and I would recommend FKK Babylon in Elsdorf. For a little more money you will get true FKK experience (all girls are nude) and great GFE as well. If you are looking for the best ambience and food. PSR (Parksauna Residenz) in Lohmar is my choice.

  6. #408

    TT. AcaG etc

    TeddyTed, I fear that if your criterion for starting at AcaG is the 20 Euros entry fee then you're on a zip line to disappointment. Acapulco (Velbert) is 40 Euros for standard entry but as we explained earlier it's only €30 before 13:00. Now, I like 1 hour sessions as it gives me time to relax, have a chat and then slowly increase the pace. So if I am there for a full day that's likely to be 3 x80=240 and the difference between €20, at AcaG and €40, at Aca is simply insignificant. Banana Boi appears to know more about this than most, appears to be very helpful towards his fellows. Listen to his advice. I have less experience but intuitively reckon that Acapulco Velbert, or indeed Samya, has to be a good introduction. Thereafter you'll be hooked. You can't do this on a shoestring, I'm afraid and there's little point. Pedro.

  7. #407
    Quote Originally Posted by TeddyTed  [View Original Post]
    But the entrance price appeals to me, which is 20 euro for entry during happy hours.
    You get what you pay for. If money is the main factor, there are other low budget clubs like Penelope. 20 euro entry before 6 pm and 25 euro sessions. Not recommending rather stating it's there. The best of the low budget clubs is easily Mondial with 30 euro entry all day and 30 euro sessions.

    The other alternative is to hit a partytreff like Totalclub Osnabruck where you pay 100 euro and fuck as many girls as you can. This seems to be a better option if money is an issue for you.

    Personally I would only recommend a first NRW FKK to be GT, LR, ACA, Samya, or Sixsens. In Hessen, it would be Sharks or Oase.

  8. #406

    Questions.

    Hi,

    I am planning to go ACA Gold soon and would like to know few things.

    1. Haus Panthera had changed its name to Acapulco Gold, right?

    2. Do you recommend this FKK as my first FKK ever? Seems like reports here on AG is bad.

    But the entrance price appeals to me, which is 20 euro for entry during happy hours.

    3. Any advice for me?

    Thanks,

    TT

  9. #405
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanuk327  [View Original Post]
    I am also not sure about public transport convenience.
    In fact, it's not possible to get to Babylon with public transport for a long distance.

  10. #404
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanuk327  [View Original Post]
    Appreciate your input. I have some doubts about Babylon since the club has significant across the border clientele
    I went to Babylon for a long time, but stopped going because some girls were very publicly rude to me there (it started when one sharky type was angry that I would not take her to a room on a prior occasion). The owner guy is customer-friendly, but the problem is that the female managers under him are not so supportive, so when he's away, the girls can act crazy.

    Panthera seems more consistent to me, both under the old and new management.

  11. #403
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxime  [View Original Post]
    Indeed PSR will fit her very good I think. Quiet, but with recurring and mature guests and close to Koln. Bernds also, but is much smaller, little further, and closed in the weekends. Both are indeed service clubs (where Bernds excels, and PSR has some different quality members.).

    Good alternative might be Baylon in Elsdorf. Is same distance from Koln as Panthera, and good quality line up, mix of younger and older girls, but she would do well I think. On Friday and Saturday more party atmosphere, but big enough to don't be bothered by it. Service oriented and many returning customers who value service quality over barbie looks.
    Appreciate your input. I have some doubts about Babylon since the club has significant across the border clientele which is not stable and she does not speak English. I am also not sure about public transport convenience.

  12. #402
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanuk327  [View Original Post]
    Maxime, which clubs could be a good fit for Marina considering her personality, age, look? I suggested her to try PSR and Bernds. Can you recommend some other clubs? Her preference is service club with respectful stable mature clientele and within public transport reach from Koln. Your advise is valuable since you know her.
    Indeed PSR will fit her very good I think. Quiet, but with recurring and mature guests and close to Koln. Bernds also, but is much smaller, little further, and closed in the weekends. Both are indeed service clubs (where Bernds excels, and PSR has some different quality members.).

    Good alternative might be Baylon in Elsdorf. Is same distance from Koln as Panthera, and good quality line up, mix of younger and older girls, but she would do well I think. On Friday and Saturday more party atmosphere, but big enough to don't be bothered by it. Service oriented and many returning customers who value service quality over barbie looks.

  13. #401
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxime  [View Original Post]
    It is indeed a real pity that many of the original HP girls are gone, but still around 10-12 left (Denisa, Luciana, Celine, Melody, Paulina, etc) of which a few now on holiday.
    Maxime, which clubs could be a good fit for Marina considering her personality, age, look? I suggested her to try PSR and Bernds. Can you recommend some other clubs? Her preference is service club with respectful stable mature clientele and within public transport reach from Koln. Your advise is valuable since you know her.

  14. #400
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxime  [View Original Post]
    But serious: this is indeed a special entrance price of 20 euro because of the "introduction of the (new) Acapulco Gold concept". And so it will be valid for ALL customers visiting.

    A bargain, if you see what you get for this!
    It's a bargain if you're lucky enough on the day to find a good one. LU is uninspired, but had a good time with Caroline from Cameroon, and what a brisk business she was doing. I can't remember a girl so popular since Su.

    And thanks, yes, they honor the 20 euro entrance.

  15. #399
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanuk327  [View Original Post]
    Met Marina this past weekend in the hotel. She said that it became unbearable to work in AG any longer. New management treats girls without respect and customer base changed dramatically towards south.

    She worked in Blue Note / Panthera for 9 years and is not kind of a butterfly person who flies from one place to another. She is now part time in Haus Dupont in Wuppertal and works by appointments only.
    It is indeed a real pity that many of the original HP girls are gone, but still around 10-12 left (Denisa, Luciana, Celine, Melody, Paulina, etc) of which a few now on holiday.

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