Comment on Forum Rules Here

[Atlanta Monger]

Jackson,

Regarding TS/TV content, you posted:
"Eventually, I decided to just stop all discussions on the subject."

Does that include passing references to areas or places (bars in Pattaya come to mind) that should be avoided due to heavy lady-boy content?

I've made a list of all those type places mentioned in the Pattaya forum (to be avoided on my trip), and personally thank the guys who have helped me steer clear of 'things in the dark' that I really don't want to see once I get there.

Just a thought,
Atlanta Monger

[Brownout]

extra care should be taken to differentiate posts that talk about differentiating real women from transsexual / shemale / transvestite, for a simple reason.

jackson says that this forum is for sex with women only. granted. if you want only sex with women, you'll come here expecting only to read about this. discussion on how to ferret out real women will be very helpful to prevent any disillusionment. it is known that many regions are replete with impostors. (i encountered one on lockhart rd, hong kong and he was jailed the very next day.)

jackson, you must be careful not to censor anything that talks about how to differentiate real women from transsexual / shemale / transvestite, unless it has other things that break forum rules.

hi,

your argument sounds good, and for the first year of the forum's existence i endeavored to make the distinction, but eventually i became aware of two phenomena that required me to adopt a zero tolerance policy:

1. the guys looking for this stuff would use carefully worded reports to disseminate the info to their like-minded perverts, and...

2. the subject could not be discussed openly under any circumstances because. like the discussions of **** persons, it would spark too many flame wars.

eventually, i decided to just stop all discussions on the subject.

thanks,

jackson

[Travis Bickle 2]

Senior Citizen, I agree completely. If I had to use four hundred words to explain that there were lots of SW's working Aurora Avenue last night, people would get extremely bored and quit reading my posts. Since when is verbosity a virtue. I believe that short and concise posts make more sense.

Civ2000

[ChicagoBoy23]

This site is great. Don't change it.

Occasional abuse by uneducated or ill mannered mongers should not be allowed to kill the golden goose. Free exchange of information is the beauty of the internet. This is not an exclusive club or society. All are welcome but abusers are kicked out.

Keep it free and open !!!!!!

[SeniorCitizen]

Kapalika

I could not disagree more. The purpose of the board is not fixed in stone, different users have different objectives. Information is paramount, but doesn't need a minimum line size to be relevant. What purpose is served to use 400 lines to say that law enforcement is heavy in Lawrence MA or that Betty Boop in Lowell MA gives you sticky shorts in her finish?

If you read certain boards there is certainly a spirit of comradery established between members, and humor can become painful if dragged out too long, but is certainly found on many of the boards.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, and you can read or post as you see fit, but most boards seem to find their own rythm and, with the rare exception where a member abuses other members, it is clearly working.

[Kapalika]

MINIMUM POSTING SIZE REQUIREMENT

Jackson,

In my opinion, my suggestion of limiting postings to those that have 400 or more words, is a good idea. Dialogue quality will improve and people will feel more informed with fewer distractions. When you limit the posting size to a minimum of 400 words what happens? People are invited to give an hour in thei day to read and post messages.

This, I believe, is a crucial part of forming online communities. Limiting the discussion to well thought out postings only and cutting out ten and twenty line postings will then allow 40 line postings - the ones that tell a story and inform like no other- are worth reading. 40 lines, 400 words - 1 Hour. The number of postings will drop of to that which is well thought out 5 minute reading time. When a member feels that his posting has more value because there are fewer distractions - then an inner voice is heard. The members can feel confident in scanning the archives and finding an even more informative data base. When I do my research on databases, I go for the web site that can give me up to date, informed, well thought out opinions on a particular destination. I like to be able have that information at arms length - and not to wade through a whole page to find one message. The other day I was checking out Argentina and I basically spent the whole day gathering all the bits of information, accomodation, guides, clubs, websites etc. It was quite fun though.

Well then - I'm of my moms visiting tonight and I haven't seen her since new years. Oh and by the way, this posting is less than 400 words - cut it out!

[World Traveler]

Jackson, if you want to maintain a sustainable web site, you need to maintain and enforce your guidelines more effectively. Here are some comments:

- Every once in a while remind all posters that this is a web site to find women for sex. Period. It is all about sharing and exchanging individual experiences. All discussions must be on-topic. Please ask us not to turn the posts to a personal playground for chatting, off-topic discussions, and especially POLITICS.

- Please respect the section topic and comment or ask under that section. Please don¡¯t questions about Thailand in a topic from the Europe section.

- All posts should meet standards for minimum contribution on the topic. How many times we read that after tens, hundreds posts a fellow punter is asking for information that has been discussed on several occasions. We are all obligated to meet minimum guideline for the purposes of this site. What is a report without quoting a price, area, location/address, and comments on the service?

- Screen those who may use the privileges given in this board to promote local businesses or personal interests, get tougher on them. Set higher standards. Screen short timers like you are doing now.

- (temporary) EXPELLE those who claim money is not an issue in their questions or comments.

- Set up new folders for newbies only. Lets discuses in those sections the no¡¯s that might turn a place from being a heaven to hell, Pattaya, Phonm Phen, Cebu, Angle City, ..... even Prague, Budapest. ..... To experienced hobbyists there is no other bigger danger than: newbies, want to be a punter, inexperienced hobbyists, and obnoxious flashers who could turn a place upside down in no time. We are all in it for the same reason, aren¡¯t we? I say lets go even further and limit the newbies on the number of posts they could have access to READ before they prove to the board that they have the capacity to observe what is being offered here in this board.

- I am afraid that if no steps are taken, some experienced fellow posters may refuse to discuss and share their latest discoveries just because they are afraid they may lose them before the chance to enjoy it again. Granted, I have taken several leads from this board and turned them to absolute fantastic trips. But I am not sure if those who may follow will be as discreet as I was when I explored it.

- Please remind us that photos are for the photo sections only. One or two photos to give heads up on what to expect. EXPELLE those posters who post photos from commercial porn sites. Give them warning first!

- Limit the graphic description of your encounters to short comments. Just enough for the pleasure of the readers, this is not an erotic storyboard, ... or is it?

- I guess the final comment is to remind everyone to please STAY ON-TOPIC and avoid asking repeated questions.

[Nico]

Is there any way to have a pop up come up letting members know that they have a private message? Somtimes a monger is needing to get some information like right away. For that night, and he sees a member on and messages him but doesn't get a response back till the next day or later.

[Stoner]

Jackson,

I hate to offend you, I really appreciate this site and recommend it to all.

You recently put a message in the Boston forum about not mentioning other "competing" web sites.

I don't know how you feel about this, but I'd love to see a brief discussion about this.

There are many realities we deal with on WSG that we don't deal with on the "competing" sites. Here, its almost 100% mongers. Rarely do we see providers post. Personally, I like this, though I do know that many read here. But is strictly guys on the most part and most conducive for guys.

Yet...as we research info on providers, we must recognize the reality that data has to be mined from multiple online sources. Here, at WSG, is a great place to compile that info and report on what we know, or direct others to where local info can be located.

While I don't think posts should promote other "competing" spots, but it should be understood that knowing the resources iavailable is valuable to accurate reports here.

For instance, many large cities have alternative news sources that often have back pages for escorts and such to advertise and give contact info. Any traveller to an area should be aware of the resource and even how to get it online when available.

Banning this alternate data from being mentioned limits things for newbies and travellers. I'm sure you can see the value in these mediums.

Well...the same is true for other sources of classified info for escorts. XXXXXlist.org is just such a site. Its just advertising...and should not be banned.

Again, I'd like to see a dialog or here your thoughts on what is acceptable and not. If this is already stated some where explicitly, please forgive me and direct me.

Thanks for all you do. Oh...and happy new year, mis amigo!

[Bobby11]

Hello,

Writing about BB (bareback) sex should not be permited. You can "kill" another people today having unprotected sex.

Thanks

[Dick for Brains]

I agree with much of what Chris2 has to say regarding the posting/timing of regular members' reports. Many people who read regularly look only for the most recent postings. Thus they don't get to see newly-posted entries by Regular members as these appear in the thread according to their original time-stamp rather than the time of the actual posting.

Jackson - since you filter these messages anyway, and you can't/don't know how to over-write the time stamp of the program, perhaps it makes sense for you to write some macro to re-submit the posting after you've approved and edited it. In this way, at least the post will get a new time-stamp and will then be read by more of the senior (more regular) members.

Only a suggestion. I don't know if this makes sense to you or if it is way too much work. Again, just a suggestion but I sense that many regular members feel a sense of frustration that they are not fully involved in the conversation because of this treatment.

Thanks for hearing me out.

DfB

[Swiss Tiger]

Reddog,

That guy really "got your goat" didn't he? (I read your message to him!)

Personally, don't you think it would be better if 1st timers were "encouraged" to come back and post their experiences, we might learn something new?

He may have requested a PM because he is shy, or simply because its his 1st time and didn't know.

If his request for a PM means that he is jumped on by "seniors" and brandished a "one timer", and given no or little help to enjoy his experience then it does not really encourage him to come back and share what he got up to with the rest of us.

Clearly, however, I can see your point in trying to dissuade "one timer" activity when the activity is simply a matter of questions and no reports, but sometimes we (or rather this forum) will have to take the risk.

If we assist him and give him the best chance of having "fun", then surely this encourages a revisit more with reports and thanks, don't you think?

Maybe not everyone is like me and you, but we do need to give the "new boys" a chance.

Anyway thats what I think, and I am sure El Matador del Amor Jackson will make up his own mind.

Ciao for now.
ST

[RedDog]

I would like to comment on the PM function of the board. For the most part i like it but i would like to ask if it is not to difficult to have the functionality of this tool only be available to senior members. Because i saw a post of a first time poster that just requested info and then said PM me with the info. I think that is clearly a sign that he will never post and proably not read again. He wants info sent directly to him and a notice of when it arives. I like the PM function because it makes meeting other easy with out have to make a post and having the whole board show up. I am not a great member but as a good member i think this could stop people like this the same way the posting e mail and web address help to prevent it as well.

[Chris2]

Ok, I am supposed to post a certain number of reports before I become a senior member, that is reasonable.

However, the problem is that nobody will be reading anything I post before I become a senior member, nor will anyone respond to anything I write. This is because by the time my messages finally make it to the forums, 3 days later or whenever, they will be on page 2 or 3 and nobody will go back there to see them.

Why can't the delayed messages, after they've finally been posted, be given the actual posting date and time, rather than the original posting date and time?

This would allow new users of this site to participate in conversations, which they cannot generally now do, and would encourage them to actually write reports, since they would know that people would actually be reading them. This would encourage more senior members.

Maybe this would be too difficult to do, practically speaking. But as it is now, I'll probably go back to reading these forums and not posting, since I've figured out that nobody reads my posts.

Hi,

I appreciate your observations.

First, I cannot change the program's code to effect the date/time stamp on the reports as you suggested.

Second, The WSG Forum is an archive of travel reports, not a chat room, so it's not designed to encourage back-and-forth chatting between members.

If you have information to report, then post it. If you want to chat, then go to a chat room.

Thanks,

Jackson

[Fenster]

Allow me to be the skunk at the party and not stroke and massage the administrator and his guidelines. Is Jackson even aware of the format his board has evolved to? What reports are you talking about for cryin out loud? The ratio of meaningful reports vs. pure discussion and inquiries is negligible if not nil. So now if a not so senior member wants to post a follow up question on a topic, you wanna call his mono syllabic inquiry a report? You wanna have him wait till you parse it, patronize and approve it? Is that it? Either the administrator is all too flabbergasted with having control over a forum, or is enamored with the business of over kill, time consuming administration.

And why are you taking these tedious, draconian measures? Cause your board is free? So charge us and reinstate ease of use. You think patrons of this board are destitute and desperate for freebies? You want us to do hand stands cause your board is free to the public? Ultimately, if a member has a quick question about a hotel or a location, don’t ask him to post his report so you can examine it, he doesn’t have a report, his is a two worded question.

What's "draconian" about asking people to use correct capitalization and puncutation?