FKK Arabella / Villa Venus / Sauna Grimberg - NRW AO Clubs

[Varenne]

A club exactly like the Phoenix Club would be illegal in Germany. The closest thing are German clubs with a "party"-like setting, but you get tokens in exchange for your entrance fee, and pay for sessions with the tokens.

I don't know about Phoenix Club, but "new" german law doesn't explicitely make flat-rate clubs illegal. While it's true that most flat-rate clubs have either closed or shifted to a token system, there are still some which don't mention tokens on their websites.

For example:

http://airport-girls.eu/

https://www.anni-porsche.de/

http://www.partytreff-pulheim.de

https://partytreff-bremen.de

http://www.saunabynight.de/ (Mega-Sandwich-Variante).

http://lovefucktory.de

http://www.erlebniswohnung.com

I set up a map of club with party-like settings, separating those declaring using the token system:

http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/...germany_252879#6/51.863/9. 712.

I wondered if interpretations of the law differ locally, but I fail to see a pattern.

[Neurosynth]

It am thinking it is probably similar to The Phoenix Club in London where there are a handful of girls available and you can do as many as you like for the one price of admission.

A club exactly like the Phoenix Club would be illegal in Germany. The closest thing are German clubs with a "party"-like setting, but you get tokens in exchange for your entrance fee, and pay for sessions with the tokens.

[Wanking]

I was wondering about the details for the P3 swingers club. Is there a site I can check out or a descriptive review? It am thinking it is probably similar to The Phoenix Club in London where there are a handful of girls available and you can do as many as you like for the one price of admission. Is that similar to P3? Also, where is it located?

In P3 it's just pot luck with the local swinger MILFs that turn up.

Reports here.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...-Swinger-Clubs

[CpHowdy]

Day 3.

Having cum 6 times in the previous 2 days I wasn't feeling horny at all, and as I was planning visiting P3 swingers that night I wanted to fill my sack along the day.

Although I decided to visit Grimberg mainly because of the low entry price 15 before 1 pm . I was here more for a way of killing sometime and relaxing for the afternoon.

I think it feels like the most traditional of the red carpet clubs I've been to yet. A mish mash of connected rooms a bit like Arabella. There were eight girls present and only one I recognised from Freud last year, Bulgarian Jessie, a small big tit blonde with a cheeky face in her thirties. I've banged her several times in Fruede and always found her service rushed, so I didn't repeat here.

Also there were 2 big tit voluptuous brunettes sitting in the room to the left of the counter. They look like sisters and according to the pictures in the cabinet one of them does anal. They seemed to keep to themselves and not mix with the other girls..

I was wondering about the details for the P3 swingers club. Is there a site I can check out or a descriptive review? It am thinking it is probably similar to The Phoenix Club in London where there are a handful of girls available and you can do as many as you like for the one price of admission. Is that similar to P3? Also, where is it located?

[ExpatLover]

Day 3.

Having cum 6 times in the previous 2 days I wasn't feeling horny at all, and as I was planning visiting P3 swingers that night I wanted to fill my sack along the day.

Although I decided to visit Grimberg mainly because of the low entry price 15 before 1 pm . I was here more for a way of killing sometime and relaxing for the afternoon.

I think it feels like the most traditional of the red carpet clubs I've been to yet. A mish mash of connected rooms a bit like Arabella. There were eight girls present and only one I recognised from Freud last year, Bulgarian Jessie, a small big tit blonde with a cheeky face in her thirties. I've banged her several times in Fruede and always found her service rushed, so I didn't repeat here.

Also there were 2 big tit voluptuous brunettes sitting in the room to the left of the counter. They look like sisters and according to the pictures in the cabinet one of them does anal. They seemed to keep to themselves and not mix with the other girls..

Little advice if you don t want to have sex so many better things to do than to visit a FKK club, good restaurants, museums, walking around, probably you will get less frustrated by doing other activities.

[Wanking]

Day 3.

Having cum 6 times in the previous 2 days I wasn't feeling horny at all, and as I was planning visiting P3 swingers that night I wanted to fill my sack along the day.

Although I decided to visit Grimberg mainly because of the low entry price 15 before 1 pm . I was here more for a way of killing sometime and relaxing for the afternoon.

I think it feels like the most traditional of the red carpet clubs I've been to yet. A mish mash of connected rooms a bit like Arabella. There were eight girls present and only one I recognised from Freud last year, Bulgarian Jessie, a small big tit blonde with a cheeky face in her thirties. I've banged her several times in Fruede and always found her service rushed, so I didn't repeat here.

Also there were 2 big tit voluptuous brunettes sitting in the room to the left of the counter. They look like sisters and according to the pictures in the cabinet one of them does anal. They seemed to keep to themselves and not mix with the other girls.

There were 2 Young very slim girls hanging out together. They both barely looked 18, one was absolutely tiny with a big mop of long black hair. The other was taller and had a pretty model type face and light brown hair, she seems incredibly popular with all the guys. Both these girls would not be my type, too young and too skinny.

I went for a session with a curvy Bulgarian brunette who was hanging out with Jessie. Service was good but I just wasn't feeling too horny and didn't cum despite good wood. I would gladly repeat with that girl in the future. Like most Bulgarian girls she had no English.

I went for a sauna in the tiny little very hot sauna in the basement and got talking to a local Guy for a while. He emphasised the importance of finding girls who have good sympathy, something I've heard many times in the past from other German guys. Then I had some lunch consisting of pasta soup which was surprisingly tasty, and a couple of cold meat sandwiches.

I left after about 3 hours there, first time I think I have ever been in an FKK and not shooten my load!! Although I did cum once in the swingers later that night..

I look forward to repeating Grimberg when I have a nice full sack. Club is located in a nice area near the zoo and there is an American style Diner next door.

[Wanking]

This is my first report using Google voice typing.

I was in Arabella about 3 weeks ago on the first day of my trip. I had a touch of gout which put a downer on the whole trip, still at least my dick was working well.

Only 8 girls present that day. First up for me was Sabrina, I found her service to be too rushed. She made me come within 15 minutes. We agreed on cum in the mouth but she didn't in the end, and I ended up cuming on my belly.

Next up was Cami, a new Young slim blonde, lovely face and body apart from a bit of acne on her back. Service was amateur and very enjoyable. She got really giggly when I licked her brown hole. She had strong bad breath though, a combination of smoking, bad teeth and Cocks I suspect. Still I've been thinking about her a lot since and I would love a repeat in the future.

Next was old Bulgarian curly-haired brunette Jessie, although I think she was called something else before. I guess she is mid forties but I do love her big saggy tits. Her service was very solid and I had a lovely intimate session with memorable missionary position and deep french kissing, followed by a lovely deep cum in the mouth. I'm sure we went over the 25 minute Mark but still she only charged me 30.

My final session and fourth cum of the day was with lesbian looking Anastasia. She is a lovely submissive girl who kisses really deeply, and her service is very GFE. I had been thinking about taking her for one hour but in the end she made me come in her mouth within the 25 minutes, so I was glad to save the 40 yo-yos..

Of course if you say to a girl that you are going to take her for the hour when starting the session you can't go back on it. This time I didn't mention anything about the length of the session to Anastasia and just finished within the time. I think sessions over 25 minutes are rare in Arabella.

So I had four sessions and four Cums. Pretty satisfying really.

Also great to meet Buttlover from the good forum here. He put on several highly charged live sex shows throughout the day which you are allowed to do as long as you use condom's for suck and fuck and don't perform DATY.

[Kuni042]

Given my positive experience, one week before, I tried again. But I was hugely frustrated. LU was imo quite poor. There was an interesting delegation from Ukraine (4 ladies). I tried 2 of them. But it didn't work for me. Their german was not good, and they appeared both cold. None of my previous WG was there. My BL: Lots of nomads, it is very hit or miss. The standard crew is too boring for me.

Yes. But the 40 e don't buy you any sort of extras (like DFK or BBBJ), at least not with the top WGs. I go tonite again, because it is just nicely en route to Duisburg / GT / Oceans / Cologne etc. I can report soon.

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[CpHowdy]

If you have been to Dietzenbach you are fully prepared. The NRW clubs are really interchangeable and lineups improve and decline quickly. Freude is a good place to start as lineup is larger and Arabella and Grimberg are not far away. Do not go to Villa Venus by car at night: car breakins continue.

German not essential. Most guys and girls speak some English. A few words will do no harm

Thanks, I was planning Freude as my first stop but I will hit as many as I can. Thanks for the warning on VV as it is on my list but I will keep to day trips then.

[ExpatLover]

If you have been to Dietzenbach you are fully prepared. The NRW clubs are really interchangeable and lineups improve and decline quickly. Freude is a good place to start as lineup is larger and Arabella and Grimberg are not far away. Do not go to Villa Venus by car at night: car breakins continue.

German not essential. Most guys and girls speak some English. A few words will do no harm

I will never understand why serious and senior mongers will not definitively stop the new guys to try AO, it is just crazy and so dangerous for the health, AO is only for stable relation not with prostitutes getting fucked 20 times a day by guys coming from everywhere.

[Kuni042]

Yes. But the 40 e don't buy you any sort of extras (like DFK or BBBJ), at least not with the top WGs. I go tonite again, because it is just nicely en route to Duisburg / GT / Oceans / Cologne etc. I can report soon.

I'm curious about what you say about Salome. A few years ago it was the sister club of the freude 39 (before it turned into a rtc) and it was 50 for 30 minutes. Now it's 40 for 30 ?

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[Varenne]

I'm curious about what you say about Salome. A few years ago it was the sister club of the freude 39 (before it turned into a rtc)

I wouldn't speak about "sister club", maybe rather a more distant relative, just related on ownership. Back in late 2013, Freude 39 site was closed, whatever the reason. For some time Freude 39 was kind of hosted at Salome location (renamed Freude 39 Herne) Both teams were working in the same club, but basically in shifts. Daytime the F39 girls where there, to meet their usual german clientele, at a price 50€ for 30 minutes. The Salome girls, appealing to the turkish clientele, started to appear later on. I remember that at 20:00 there was a drop in admission fee. At the same time started an option for a shortened girl service at a reduced price. And you bet that exactly at 20:00 the F39 girls used to flee en bloc, deliberately giving ground to Salome girls and the turkish guests. Eventually even Freude 39 Herne closed altogether, and the F39 girls either dispersed or retired. Later on, the site in Herne reopened as Salome again, and the site in Bochum reopened with a new concept (RTC club, back to the roots).

[Optimist]

Thanks for the info. I am aware the clubs are more on the dingy side and AO is not spoken about. I have been to Dietzenbach so am familiar with how it all works. Any specific clubs you would say are the best to hit? I don't speak any German, is that an issue there? I was not an issue in Dietz.

Thanks!

If you have been to Dietzenbach you are fully prepared. The NRW clubs are really interchangeable and lineups improve and decline quickly. Freude is a good place to start as lineup is larger and Arabella and Grimberg are not far away. Do not go to Villa Venus by car at night: car breakins continue.

German not essential. Most guys and girls speak some English. A few words will do no harm

[ExpatLover]

Thanks for the info. I am aware the clubs are more on the dingy side and AO is not spoken about. I have been to Dietzenbach so am familiar with how it all works. Any specific clubs you would say are the best to hit? I don't speak any German, is that an issue there? I was not an issue in Dietz.

Thanks!

If you don{t speak German better to stay on the safe side by visiting the big clubs, never forget even it is legal in Germany, most of the places are owned by mafia guys, or motorcycles gangs, the goal is to suck as much cash from you. The girls are just prostitutes also willing to suck as much cash as possible from you, they don t care about you, even they will not remember you, one after one. Most of the girls are not able to do more in their life than to open their legs and mouth to any guys willing to pay, usually after several years in the job they are mentally affected.

[BigBuddy69]

I'm curious about what you say about Salome. A few years ago it was the sister club of the freude 39 (before it turned into a rtc) and it was 50 for 30 minutes. Now it's 40 for 30 ?