FKK Arabella / Villa Venus / Sauna Grimberg - NRW AO Clubs

[Christian G]

What a bad news! I'll be in NRW between 29 days for a 6-days-tour around this club and maybe most of them will be close?

[Free Dude]

I read discussion in F39 thread between EastGoind Free Dude, and BigBuddy69. It is not easy to understand what changes are happening now and what the game plan is. Could you please briefly explain current situation with the clubs being discussed such us Arabella, Verena, F39, etc. Please indicate what clubs are AO now what are not. Please also update about Alina, Grimberg, Venus. Are they affected? Thanks.

For now Freude is still being remodeled. I heard a rumor that the new opening date is now 24 September. Til then the other clubs should remain opened. There is also a rumor that the prices will start with the well known 30/30 for entry and sessions and will week by week increase to 40/40 and 50/50.

[Jymondor]

I read discussion in F39 thread between EastGoind Free Dude, and BigBuddy69. It is not easy to understand what changes are happening now and what the game plan is. Could you please briefly explain current situation with the clubs being discussed such us Arabella, Verena, F39, etc. Please indicate what clubs are AO now what are not. Please also update about Alina, Grimberg, Venus. Are they affected? Thanks.

[EastGoing]

Thanks for your appreciation, Vito. It's nice to receive some once in a while :-) it's not nice to write in a desert dead thread :-(

I was in Venus last Wednesday and this Monday. The atmosphere was more relaxed, since Barbara was in Hennef too, and Betty and the other TF are not scary for the girls. Payment structure was back to 60 with a room included and 30 for further sessions.

Hennef is draining the few resources this club had, since it's the one supporting and catering for Annabella. Quite a few new girls, but none of them was that attractive for my tastes, and it seems now you can't even count on quantity to have the hope to find something worth, since there were respectively 12 and 9 girls, last Tuesday it was reported only 7. Fuckable new girls possibly short slim Dilara, who left shortly after I arrived and is now on holiday, and Elli, roughly same body, who luckily told me, at 9 pm, that she was on break, then would eat, then do the cleaning, then get ready to leave! Sort of Rosa, long breaks and ages to do whatever, but if Elli costs 30 euros, Rosa should cost at least 3000, regardless of what happens in the room. I had approached Elli not knowing her name, reports on freiercafe are quite bad, so I was lucky I didn't have the displeasure to session with her.

So I had to be glad that Jasmine was back, at least I had someone to put in between my sessions with Elena.

Jasmine is slim, 1,85 tall, nearly model body, if I'm not mistaken she has some sort of hair on her back. She's miles away, IMHO, from Maya and Rosa, but also from the average fauna inhabiting RTCs, in Venus she has no competitors from the physical point of view. She is a bit cold, and her face doesn't attract me that much, honestly I don't find her kissable, something wrong with her teeth too. At least now she got some experience in the job, I had met her when she had just started. She tries to be nice, not that she isn't or wasn't or didn't want to be, probably it's just her character, shy, that makes her look cold, anyway she's ok and surely worth a session.

I was also with Bianca, I had sessioned with her just for a change and for her sweetness when she was Karina in Arabella. She's on the chubby side but smiling, cheerful and willing to please. Also kissable

At the moment, IMHO, the club is even less worth a visit than before.

That's all for this trip

[Vito Corleone]

EastGoing,

I enjoy reading your posts. Keep up the good work!

I also do not enjoy feeling pressure to finish or to run off to the room. Raissa is the exception. She's so fcuking hot "l would let her give me * "(Jonah Hill).

[EastGoing]

Last week I was in Verena, 12 girls available, 5 were on their first day of work over there, at least 3 of them coming from M-Exclusive in Dulmen: Sabina, Ruby and another (unfuckable) one. From my last visits, last month, I recognized only Anna, Alina, Janina, and Maria, back from holidays, who didn't greet nor talk to me, nor that I cared about. But I was glad to be welcomed and minded by Janina. I recognized Gina, never met before but sister of Sonia and hence looking a bit like her, even if less pretty, she came back alone and hurt me when she told me Sonia decided to retire. She was supposed to be back last week, in Arabella a girl had told me 10 more days, but in Verena, when I asked what had happened to all the missing girls, the "survivors" made the list one by one and told me she had retired. When Gina came out of the room and confirmed, I had to take it for good. Both the girls and I forgot about Juana, but it was blatantly clear she couldn't stay there, I guess she must have stayed less than a week. Unfortunately, new stars Anais and Violetta were absent, TF said they were (already?) sick.

TF was Katia, this time she was very friendly, I think she didn't even remember the episode of the newspaper. Girls told me she is a very kind person, maybe that day she had something wrong for her own matters.

Sessions:

- Sabina: pretty gypsy face, a bit of round ass and a bit of round tummy, nothing special physically. She's sweet and willing to please you. A good session.

- Gina: a compulsory choice for me. Good room, but her sister was much much better from every point of view, apart from the boobs, Gina's are nice. I will choose her again, it's not her not being good enough, it was Sonia being too good. I would have expressed higher satisfaction if I hadn't made the obvious comparison with her sister.

It was nearly 10 pm. After flirting all day, Alina refused me because some 10 turkish guys had come in. I was with a friend of mine who had given her problems in Venus with TF because she had left him for another customer who would tip her, so she normally makes these unkind things, I should reconsider my great esteem for her. At least, they made peace (and love) thanks to me, LOL!

I wasn't attracted by the other new girls, or at least not too much, and I wanted to try a new one, so I thought I could try Ruby, inspite of knowing it wouldn't have worked, since my friend had warned me about her characteristics, which don't suite me. But for as little as 30 euros I can try nearly anything.

- Ruby: sort of aggressive pornstar, with heavy make up and a coating of a bit of fat in excess everywhere, specially in strategic points. I didn't like her from many points of view, including attitude and expression, etc. , but I nearly had to choose her by force, if I wanted to make another room. Already in the quick approach on the couch I felt we couldn't match. Anyway, she was in a hurry, clearly showing off the hope that I would finish quickly, not willing to follow instructions and she pissed me off a lot by insisting in speaking german to me, like when she wanted to change positions, inspite of my continuous requests not to. After hardly 10 minutes Little Head couldn't bear her anymore and decided to abandon the hopeless match. I followed Him after 30 seconds of nervous pathetic disappointed puffing attempts to blow Him back to life. She seemed surprised of me wanting to quit that early, but I paid her anyway, the fault had been mine. Also, I had thought I could repeat Gina, but she refused me too, at least apologizing and explaining to me, but I already knew it, that in the time she would have to spend with me she could make 2-3 rooms with the turkish guys. I wondered if they are really so fast and keen on leaving the room after finishing, since also in other clubs girls say that about them.

We left the club shortly after, pratically girls were all in rooms, and I decided, contrarily to scheduled plan, not to return to Dortmund for this trip, I would go to Arabella, as already described.

More to come.

[EastGoing]

Vito,

I'm the sweetest nicest guy a sex provider can meet, in fact it happens and has happened that some of them try to take advantage of me or anyway misbehave. I'm kind to them, respect them, don't do nor ask anything special, actually normally I'm quite basic, BBBJ and fuck, not rough, coming with me is more a boyfriend experience or just machine, mechanical sex, I'm nor a maniac nor a savage fury. Often I don't even kiss them because I don't like sperm leftovers and / or the girl to the point of kissing her, nor I like tongue-whirling tilted machines. Normally I don't even DATY nor finger. This works specially in RTCs, where I normally don't find very attractive girls, otherwise of course I can lessen my "restrictions".

But I don't like to feel any kind of pressure, specially about finishing and getting out of the room. Unfortunately, I last too long, often I don't even unload, and this can result in a problem with some girls.

About arguments and other problems, as you told me once, some things should be kept out of public forums, in my case the very most of it. In brief, to give you clues of what can cause some problems: some girls, after you have been with them, expect you to go back to them in your future visits. If you don't, they will be quite disappointed.

There are some factors you must consider, the main ones being your age, your look, what language and how much you can speak to them, meaning not just "blazen, ficken, zimmer" and that's it, whether in english, german or other ones.

As to the sessions and treatments, we all know that there may be some chemistry, some sympathy, some other factors which can have an influence on what a girl gives us. Going with a girl, even if it's just money-for-pleasure business, it's not like going to the drink dispenser, the result will not be the same for everyone like when you just push the button for the coke and get half of your glass filled.

Anyway I will willingly resession both with Rosa and Maya, if not else for their bodies, whether I hire an empty shell or a participative unhurried girl.

In the overall, I think I am quite lucky with the treatments I receive, in and out of the rooms, and I always bear in mind that I'm spending as little as 30 euros when sessioning.

Other field reports of my trip will follow.

[Vito Corleone]

- Maya: it was the first time I met her, really well over the average look of a RTC girl, actually really out of place for beauty and body, not perfect but not far from that. She had a way of looking at me that gave me the impression she didn't like me. Eventually I understood it's just her way of watching other people, she's not wrong in feeling "a bit superior", specially considering the partners she has to go with, and also the girls that surround her, actually no comparison in look and body, apart from alien Rosa, really a shame that 2 girls like them sell themselves (even AO!) for 30 euros. Of course I couldn't help being attracted and take whatever she would give me. A bit in a hurry both on the couch and in the room, not too accommodating or willing to follow instructions. We had some "disagreements", actually arguments, in the first session and some misunderstandings before making the second one: she didn't understand I wanted to repeat her and walked away from our couch! So I went with Beatrix, zimmered the day of my previous visit, when she was off. When we finally did it, Maya gathered the fruits of my session with her colleague, nearly 45 minutes without finishing. I grabbed her 5 minutes after the session with Beatrix and finished after 15 minutes. Maya wanted to leave the room, which burnt the tiny bridge between me and her, but I will of course rebuild it on my soon coming next trip.

I had a great time with Maya. She does have a sharp look in her eyes. Attractive for her age (late 20's or early 30's). I did her 5-6 times & she was great. Kissing, BJ, CG, RCG, arched her back for doggie, mish, spread eagle, basically very accommodating. Ok, she was not thrilled when I did not session with her during one of my many visits. Still gave exceptional service each time. Arguments & disagreements? Not sure why our experiences with both Rosa & Maya are worlds apart. What exactly are you doing in the room? Some strange freaky stuff? Just curious since Maya was very accommodating in the room. Zero problems with her.

Great sex. She would be perfect if she looked like Rosa or Raissa. Speaks zero English, but we did well using body language. Rosa is a bit spacey & can seem aloof, but Maya? She's does her job & willing to please. A trooper & takes a pounding with a smile.

[Vito Corleone]

Not sure what happened to her during your visits. I did not experience any problems going to the room with her, or just laying there staring at the ceiling. Hiding or avoiding customers is news to me. Making clients wait? When you sit with her on the couch, she does take her time. Smoke & relax 5-10 minutes. Not a problem for me as I get to kiss & grope her hot bod. She does everything at her pace & can seem to move really slow when the girls are yelling at her to do the laundry & etc. For me, on the couch & in the room she was great. Not exactly enthusiastic, not a dead corpse either. She seems totally absent in everything else she does.

She was very happy to go to the room with me. I must have sessioned with her 14-16 times during my trip & all were fantastic. The stupid no back to back or 3 sessions with the same babe is ridiculous. I paid the 60 E anyway because she's just so damn hot. Yes, she was in high demand & there were plenty of other babes around. Raissa, Alexandra & Maya.

I am also not that demanding when visiting the rtc clubs. I refuse to be cheated in any situation, but never experienced any problems with the girls. Arguments? Girls suffering at my site? Not really sure what you do in the room or while sitting around recovering your juice. I just do my thing & keep to my self. I have fun joking around with the girls here & there, but nothing too serious to the point of tension.

Yes, she needs to smile more or pretend to want to be there. She looks like a combo of wanting to cry & clueless air head. She cannot be happy knowing a bunch of creepy men salivating at just the thought of sticking their little friend in her BB.

YMMV!

[EastGoing]

i must disagree with vito about her performances, even if i enjoy and have a different kind of fun with her. if i recall well, she said she's been about 5 months in ao clubs, but already changed verena, alina and venus because nearly every customer complains about her (dis) service, tfs tell her off until they send her away. i've seen renata trying to give her instructions, like smiling, she even asked me how she had been in the room, question that i'm never asked in arabella, i've even complained to anna about that in the past (however i said good, of course). actually i don't remember, among consenting and capable of discernment women (not that i've ever raped or abused any), such a dead inanimated corpse. whatever she does, walking, talking, cleaning, she does it like if she was absent, the thing she does best is hiding, to avoid customers. but... do you remember edwige fenech? rosa is taller, slimmer, has smaller perfect boobs, but she could be her daughter, or edwige when she was 18, the face is the same. rosa is a real monster, with such a body it's even better if she sleeps in the room, so i can touch her, squeeze her, lick her from top to toes without being disturbed, unless i exceed in squeezing, try to finger her holes or tickle her. when i have had enough, i call her. our first session was nearly one hour, but i didn't take advantage of her, i was just enjoying her so much that i didn't realize the time going by! nor did she, lost in her world. the other sessions were well over 30 minutes too.
maybe it's just her nature, her behaviour, she sounds and behaves like if she really wanted to do something, whether to please you, to earn her money or to avoid complaints, etc. , but she can't find out what she could do (!). laying on her back with open arms and closed legs, staring at the ceiling and saying something like "what should i do? what (else) do you want me to do?" when you, drooling, try to wake her up, to interact with her, well, it's funny, but you really feel like being with an inflatable dolly. i can't believe her attitude and coldness, surprise and disorientation when i try to shake her and make suggestions about what we (i) could do. she has no malice, she doesn't mean to cheat you nor to take any advantage, actually it's more likely the contrary. she could make billions, and she would deserve them, she is worth a fortune, i can't understand why she is aoing in nrw for 30 euros when she could be asking hundreds of euros for hardly half an hour of (covered) shallow empty sex, which she anyway provides but risking her own and her customers' health.

sex, fun and service can be given, at different levels, by plenty of girls, but you won't meet often such a beauty. for 30 euros! ao! i took her only 5 times, but i'll be back soon...

p.s. all the "old" girls, specially some old glories and/or (ex)superstars, are disappointed for the presence of beatrix, maya and rosa, who work a lot, not only because they are new. but, while they "respect" the first two because they can defend themselves, it's true they are quite bad to rosa, who maybe doesn't even understand the reason of their hostility. and she does, unintentionally, all she can to "help" them, leaving customers waiting for her, telling them she will come "after" or "later" and then forgetting about! everyday i had to change my plan, my schedule, because i couldn't have her when i wanted. once i had to wait more than one hour and a half, and she had been with only one customer, 5 minutes on the couch and 20 in the room! once we came out of the room and there was a line of 4 drooling 60+ years old waiting for her and trying to make sure (lol!) that they could have the chance. once, at 22 o'clock, she said she couldn't come with me because it would cost me 60, since we had already been together. true, but that had happened at 16, i had already had other 3 rooms! then she went for a phone call. back at 22,20 she wanted to smoke, the other girls badly shouted at her to stop wasting time and head to the room because closing time was approaching, she slowly did it.

let's hope she will be transferred again, in the other clubs girls had a friendly attitude towards her, but arabella is surely the worst, the toughest place with the worst, the toughest colleagues (competitors? of such a model? or enemies?) she could find, a den of real snakes, hyenas. even i, a customer (even if i'm never treated like that, which anyway pleases me, i'm still a customer) receive plenty of "negativity", but i don't give a shit. actually i like to see some of the girls suffering just at my sight, and our conversations, sometimes arguments, enhance that, they really make me feel important, lol! funny also that some of them from time to time try to reconquer me. in this trip, after nearly 2 months of absence, with one only visit in nearly 3 months, i repeatedly chose all the girls new to me, rejecting several offers by a few old girls. if they all go to freudenberg, with many other girls, i will lose and miss all this, lol!

[EastGoing]

I was 3 days in Arabella last week.

Girls on duty: romanians Beatrix, Denisa, Aida, Karina, Gaby, Rosa, Alexandra, Raissa, Maya, Alina (on Monday 8th she was in Venus); bulgarian MILF Mary, Katia (bul-tur); ger-brit MILF Michelle came back on Sunday.

Highlights of sessions and considerations:

- Maya: it was the first time I met her, really well over the average look of a RTC girl, actually really out of place for beauty and body, not perfect but not far from that. She had a way of looking at me that gave me the impression she didn't like me. Eventually I understood it's just her way of watching other people, she's not wrong in feeling "a bit superior", specially considering the partners she has to go with, and also the girls that surround her, actually no comparison in look and body, apart from alien Rosa, really a shame that 2 girls like them sell themselves (even AO!) for 30 euros. Of course I couldn't help being attracted and take whatever she would give me. A bit in a hurry both on the couch and in the room, not too accommodating or willing to follow instructions. We had some "disagreements", actually arguments, in the first session and some misunderstandings before making the second one: she didn't understand I wanted to repeat her and walked away from our couch! So I went with Beatrix, zimmered the day of my previous visit, when she was off. When we finally did it, Maya gathered the fruits of my session with her colleague, nearly 45 minutes without finishing. I grabbed her 5 minutes after the session with Beatrix and finished after 15 minutes. Maya wanted to leave the room, which burnt the tiny bridge between me and her, but I will of course rebuild it on my soon coming next trip.

- Katia, about 2 months in the club, on last day I took her instead of Maya following a friend of mine's suggestion. Sweet, willing to please you in all ways possible, anal included (if I recall well, since I didn't do that). A couple of plated teeth and a bum a bit bigger than needed for her proportions are her defects, for the rest she is okay.

- Beatrix: has a few dental problems and sucked out boobs, a "transparent" skin that lets you see the veins of her legs, but she gives great service, even too much: seeing her on the couch blowing and riding an 80+ year old would-be-corpse, who couldn't even walk, obviously full of viagra, made me feel sick.
A few minutes later, he did (underwent) the same thing with Katia. I wonder if these clubs have an insurance or some agreements with hospices, I mean just in case one of these old customers dies while riding or being rided by those young beasts, of course I'm not talking about STDs.
Anyway, I chose her everyday, she gave me great fun and satisfaction in the room, well beyond my expectations. I somehow regret not repeating her, but I gave priority to great better lookers. The fucking rule of putting a girl in the middle of repetitions requires careful planning and a bit of luck, in case your girl (s) is not available, which often happens with Rosa, mostly because she hides. Also, differently from many other girls, starting from the beautiful ones, Beatrix is quite demanding in the room. When I was sessioning with her, I was really working hard and coming out tired, while a room with Rosa can be considered pure rest, or defatiguing, in the hardest hypothesis.

[Vito Corleone]

New babe Rosa at Arabella. Just started a couple weeks ago. Total hottie. Was stunned when I saw her sitting on the couch. Pretty face, tall with nice slim bod. Brown hair, with pierced tongue. 18 yrs old. Service is good, but you have to remember she is only 18. Show patience & she can be tons of fun in the room. Attitude & personality 100% opposite of Raissa. Raissa total diva. Rosa, non diva (well, not yet).

Not sure how long she will last. Denise & some of the older hags were picking on her. Jealousy & pure competition turning some of the old guard into medusa. Doesn't have the strong personality like Raissa to tell them to F off. Maybe the move to Freude 39/ Joy or whatever in Bochum will be a good move for her. With 40+ women, the medusa hags will have other things to worry about.

[Vito Corleone]

I am Canadian with Latin roots, but have been mistaken for Arab, Israeli, Southern Spanish and Indian.

Would I have a problem entering the club?

I have seen many Turkish clients at all RTC clubs, but not many darker skinned clients. Dietzenbach is the only place I have seen clients with darker skin.

[Travel69]

I am Canadian with Latin roots, but have been mistaken for Arab, Israeli, Southern Spanish and Indian.

Would I have a problem entering the club?

Arabella was reported here someone was rejected on the door. Last year, I was in Grimberg and feels the vibe is not favor for non-white person. I was rejected service for excuse of not speaking English (by the way, I speak german). By observation, a group of three or four east asian (Chinese, japanese or korean), was rejected service by the girl by excusing not speak english. Even a young german guy was rejected service by the girl. Maybe just girls working that days I do not know. When I visit Grimberg, the vibe is very unfriendly. A german guy argued with a girl that day because he kiss the girl on the couch and did not want go room with the girl. anyway, at least that day, it is not worth visit. I paid three sessions and only have one mechanical sessions. After talk the front desk, the TF agree to only charge me 60euro and refund rest of money.This is only positive point because it is hard to get your money back in this kind of place. There is no place to sit. You cannot sit a couch which a girl already sit on. You will be given very unfriendly reminder from girls if you sit on it. Villa Venus is ok for any race and quite friendly vibe. I saw a lot turkish guy. If you do not have car, I would suggest not to try Arabella and Grimberg.

[DFWdude]

I am Canadian with Latin roots, but have been mistaken for Arab, Israeli, Southern Spanish and Indian.

Would I have a problem entering the club?

Very possile. I am American, but "look southern". I was booted from Arabella just after I entered the door. To make matters worse they refused to even call me a cab. Since all three clubs are affiliated I reckon they have same pollicy.