FKK Arabella / Villa Venus / Sauna Grimberg - NRW AO Clubs

[Sirioja]

Sirioja. Yes, As you often point out, quite a few are intimidated by really beautiful girls, and prefer to go with girls who are not even pretty. I agree that there is no correlation between beauty and quality of service. As with all workers in all clubs (whether beautiful or not) we usually get what we deserve (as long as we try to weed out the bad apples first).

I would not say intimidated, they are just not able to behave with beauties, GND are easier because they are happy to get business, but treat a beauty like a woman and she will like you, asking You not to go with other girls but only with her, because so rare clients like this, and if You are skillful enough to give her orgasms, then she will ask: You do the same with others?

About RTC, Germans go because of cheap sex: entry 15 and AO fucking for 30 , before returning to wife, new law was also to protect German wives, but AO girls are low level for sex and of course for look, compare to beauties who are the best if You deserve them and can give You love in bed when they like You. Did You find many GFE level like Amanda in RTC, even she might fall for level at Sharks now.

[BigBuddy69]

They survive because the Germans are not all millionaires and cannot spend 300 or 400 euros in one weekend.

[Optimist]

Sirioja. Yes, As you often point out, quite a few are intimidated by really beautiful girls, and prefer to go with girls who are not even pretty. I agree that there is no correlation between beauty and quality of service. As with all workers in all clubs (whether beautiful or not) we usually get what we deserve (as long as we try to weed out the bad apples first).

[Optimist]

JimmyBoy. I admire your perseverance in trudging round five such clubs without enjoying any of them. That is dedication. I hope you had more luck at some other clubs.

You mention Cindy as a sort of high point. This is amusing when she is almost universally slammed by all visitors. Personally I think she is OK, even if with no skill in sex, so, glad it worked for you.

I think the reasons the clubs survive are several. A session is 30% of the costs quoted in some clubs, and usually includes DFK. If a guy likes a couple of the girls then it is an OK deal (even with the ridiculous entry price). Of course, there is very very rarely even one girl with top rank looks.

These clubs seem not only to survive but to be getting busier and busier.

[Sirioja]

Guys,

Who go to these clubs don't look for beauties. Many guys are afraid to go with beauties in normal clubs, thinking they will give bad services, when most girls and beauties give us from what we deserve with them.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Did a Happy Hour tour of Arabella (morning, 15 Euro entry) and Freude (evening, 15 Euro entry) on Sunday and Venus (morning, 20 Euro entry) and Verena (evening, 15 Euro entry) on Monday. Line-ups were generally awful: 9 ladies at Venus, one fuckable; 17 ladies at Freude, one fuckable; 12 ladies at Venus, one fuckable; 7 ladies at Verena, one (maybe 2) fuckable.

Did a session with Cindy at Arabella; nice, soulful face, slim body, Ro, 22 or so. Passed interview, provided service expected. Nice session with a very nice girl but room was to hot to fuck more than 20 minutes, even though we were having sex in front of the air conditioning unit. Prices are 20 Euro for 15 minutes, 30 for 25 minutes, 50 for 40 minutes, and 75 for 60 minutes.

Did not session at Freude as the one girl I liked, a tall, pretty blond with nice body and enhanced tits, disappeared shortly after I saw her and did not return. Prices are 30 Euro for 20 minutes, 40 for 30 minutes, and 80 for 60 minutes.

Sessioned with Anna at Venus. Pretty blond with small perky tits, nice body, one week in the business. Said up front that she did not do A / O and did not like DATY. Room was nothing special but for 30 Euro was worth it just to fuck her. Prices are 30 Euro for 25 minutes, 50 for 40 minutes, and 75 for 60 minutes.

Sessioned with Erica at Verena. Blond, 20 years old, very pretty, beautiful small be tits, nice ass. Said up front that everything was covered with her. Expressed amazement that that was the case in an RTC club but she said take it up with the theke if I had a problem with it. Wasn't going to lose the opportunity to fuck such a pretty girl for 30 Euro, even if everything covered, so went with her. Lively 25-minute session with her dancing to manele on my dick. Another blonde had a very good body but not as pretty as Erica. However, since I was now a marked man as accepting covered sex, I decided not to bother doing her. Prices are 30 Euro for 25 minutes, 50 for 40 minutes, and 75 for 60 minutes.

In summary, none of these clubs are worth the 30 Euro regular admission price, and barely worth the happy hour price to fuck the one or two girls worth paying 30 Euro for. The lineups are full of old, or fat, or saggy titted, or facially unattractive women. I am amazed at how they stay in business and that men will pay to fuck these women, no matter how ugly they are.

[Triptogamont]

I appreciate the clear information and the speedy reply. I understand, but am saddened by the lack of couch action since the new law came into being. If you had to, how would you rate Arabella against Villa Venus and La Luna these days? I would love everyone's opinion on this, as well.

Cheers!

While I am not an expert by any means, I have visited every RTC at least twice over the past year or so. Read my posts here and in the Freude and Laluna threads. I prefer Venus to all others, if only for Larissa. Laluna is good only if Kathy and Tania are there. With facilities being equally shit across the board, you have to go by lineup, which can change drastically day to day. Luckily, many of these clubs are close to each other, so if one is terrible, you can drive to another in 20 minutes or so. I generally just pick one and roll the dice. Then move to another if I don't like what I see. Just one opinion and worth exactly what you paid for it. Good luck and please post about your experiences!

[Wanking]

I never been to VV or La Luna.

I've only been to Arabella loads of times, F39 many times, Verena once and Grimberg Once.

Must try Grimberg again some time, even just to go for a meal in the American style diner next door in between sessions.

[Johncr04]

I had a couple of brief DATY sessions on the couch in Arabella, the best being Sabrina (who looks similar to the girl in the pics a couple of posts down). BBBJ or fucking (unless covered) is a no no. The 5 min couch action with kissing and petting is kind of standard.

I appreciate the clear information and the speedy reply. I understand, but am saddened by the lack of couch action since the new law came into being. If you had to, how would you rate Arabella against Villa Venus and La Luna these days? I would love everyone's opinion on this, as well.

Cheers!

[Wanking]

I'm about to head over for a vacation feasting on the flesh in the NRW clubs. I know the law change a while back put a damper on things, but just wondering if any clubs have any semblance of couch action anymore? I've tried to RTFF and noticed mentions of DFK and a rare and brief BBBJ. Do any clubs have any dark corners where a guy might have a little public fun or is pretty much everything kept in the zimmer these days?

Many thanks.

I had a couple of brief DATY sessions on the couch in Arabella, the best being Sabrina (who looks similar to the girl in the pics a couple of posts down). BBBJ or fucking (unless covered) is a no no. The 5 min couch action with kissing and petting is kind of standard.

[EastGoing]

That's Gina Jolie ;-)

[Johncr04]

I'm about to head over for a vacation feasting on the flesh in the NRW clubs. I know the law change a while back put a damper on things, but just wondering if any clubs have any semblance of couch action anymore? I've tried to RTFF and noticed mentions of DFK and a rare and brief BBBJ. Do any clubs have any dark corners where a guy might have a little public fun or is pretty much everything kept in the zimmer these days?

Many thanks.

[Wanking]

Was searching a few of the girls names on Google and found these pics of Sabrina linked to Friercafe (pics 5 to 10 years old). I think its her alright. Looks like she made some porn in her time. I had a couple of nice sessions with her a few weeks ago, and she was in good humour. She speaks a bit of English too.

I remember she told me around a year ago she was retiring soon but I guess they never really do.

https://www.google.de/search?q=Sabri...bih=609&dpr=2.

Anyone got a link to the actual movie? Pm me if you don't want to post here.

[Optimist]

It is good to hear you had a good visit. No need to apologize for recommending it. That was not why I went. It was just logistically convenient, and I like to look for chic and charm in even unlikely places. Maybe I should have tried Samya or Mondial.

I did find charm if not chic. The customers were refined, courteous, and positive. All treating the girls with a respect too often missing. No pot bellies either, except on the women

I do not think I will return. The red carpet clubs are not my cup of tea.

[Kosher Kowboy]

Apologies for leading you, Trip, to this wasteland, Luderland. It was perhaps an experiment in how bad things can get. The Thekefrau was very pleasant tho, as was the brief discussion on politics with the German guest.

As we are two senior members and Pessimist has elsewhere suggested that senior members like to keep the good clubs to themselves, I will have to admit of course that everything I say about how awful this club is, is just a ruse to keep it, the best club known to man, to ourselves LOL.

I have been to Luderland three times and it has always been a disaster. So lesson learned.

I always encourage guys to explore, but in this case I really recommend driving past. Unless one has an optic requirement of 2 out of 10. But I don't want to be mean, local guys were buying gifts and obviously very happy, so everybody wins.

Actually I should be perhaps apologizing to you for telling you to add this club to your itinerary. I think the club attendees are accurate as you described, mainly Germans and much less percentages of tourists than Dietz and the NRW RTC clubs seem to have floating around. Besides Day Care and Verena / Grimberg, Luderland has been my favorite. The Club itself is cleaner, lockers nicer, showers nicer as are the rooms. I think you all hit a really bad lineup that day. Two of their superstars were out, Isabella and Sarah both top notch were on holiday and Selena and Lori both winners as well might have been absent as they were a few days before you when I was at Luderland. The Dietz LU has been very thin for weeks with massive crowds and long waits with fill ins being brought in from four NRW clubs and a few of these girls will actually be going back to Luderland and not where they came from in the NRW and I will for sure be in Leverkusen once the shift comes in 7-10 days in the meantime DayCare is keeping me content.

I usually always am in agreement with your opinions and observations but occasionally will beg to differ. I would not agree to the put this club on the ' keep driving and skip' list rather give it another shot. The Dietz regs are all hitting it often now especially on weekends (little traffic and not far) and as for me it is (if I don't hitch a ride) a quick cheap train to Leverkusen and a cab ride there. Do yourself a favor and go fuck Isabella next trip if driving by on a 3 club day in fact this one is not far from Finca I think you could have made it a four club day (LL open late) . But the multi-club day discussed was a bad lineup at Luderland too that day. Will be a rough summer for the RTC fans, hot temps, small lineups, etc. I think it is going to be crucial to just call in to the clubs for the LUs this summer before going or contact the girls directly if can; I'll do what I can do help with my very limited resources

Sorry for recommending such a wasteland of non desirable Gypsies this day, I think you can forgive me for the many pieces of advise that did work better.