FKK Arabella / Villa Venus / Sauna Grimberg - NRW AO Clubs

[Downandup]

I'll probably check out an AO club or three when I visit late next week. I'm hoping that AO is still on offer even if that's not on the web site.

Top of my list is going to be Fun Park. Then it's going to be La Luna followed up by Grimberg; Villa Venus or Verena. F39 is completely off my list if AO is banned. I've also found a number of hobbyhuren on sexdo. De that still offer AO so their locations are still on my list for a test.

I'm not sure about Bernd's, I was planning a day there on Friday 10th but it's advertised as "Couch Aktion Tag" - Public sex in the main room. So I'll put that off for a possible stop the following Monday or Tuesday as I'm not even sure if AO is possible for a first timer.

[Usel1]

Have you actually been there? I was there & I saw the photos with my very own eyes.

Sorry Vito,

I meant on the website not in the sauna.

Thanks anyway.

[Vito Corleone]

Sorry Vito see.

But Arabella have no pics at all about its ladies.

Have you actually been there? I was there & I saw the photos with my very own eyes.

[Usel1]

Dietz removed their photos & replaced it with a vase with fresh cut flowers.

Romantika & Arabella have photos of the current lineup of girls, but no service info. My experience in all 3 clubs have not changed. Romantika does have a "this house is condom only or whatever the German translation" sign above the wooden pay lockers.

Sorry Vito see.

But Arabella have no pics at all about its ladies.

[Downandup]

Many a website is now removing any mention of AO. Websites as sexdo and fickanzeiger for instance, but also forums like Freiercafe.

Sexdo must be going through a cleaning process as I can still see a few. I wonder what a site like tabulose huren is going to do when that's their reason for existing.

[Vito Corleone]

She is still absolutely stunning! I experienced no problems with her. Just great off the hook sessions. I must be missing something as there were no signs of hiding / avoiding clients or stalling tactics not wanting to go to the room. She still seems a bit aloof & doesn't smile much so some clients might be hesitant. She belongs in a FKK or sauna club like Raissa. Seems like Raissa is receiving rave reviews at her new club & even with her notorious sour mood if you do not finish within 10-15 minutes.

Rest if the Lu was horrendous! Not much better at Romantika. Minus madalina, the leftovers were a tad bit better compared to Arabella. Instead of those illegal AO signs, the authorities should make it illegal for those horrendous looking women to work.

[Vito Corleone]

At Romantica I hooked up with a dyed blond girl named Magdalena, or Madalena, or something else close to that. She was the only one who did it for me physically. She's taller than many, reasonably thin, nice be+ sized breasts that are firm and shapely. Most of all she has (I think) a very cute face. Small chin, nice cheekbones, big eyes. And she seems perky and happy rather than drained and sullen like many of the other girls. More and more I'm letting attitude trump looks, but relative to the women at Romantica on this day she led in both..

She was Flori at Venus Nov. / Dec. 2013 & Jan. Of 2014.

Roxana at Romantika Feb. / March 2014.

Has been away for quite awhile. Gained some weight, but service is still top notch!

[Vito Corleone]

Now I am just wondering if Arabella have cleaned up their website then like FKK F39 and Dietzenbach they have also removed photos with descriptions of services provided from the reception area inside the club itself?

The bandwagon of AO suppression now seems to be gathering full steam ahead.

Dietz removed their photos & replaced it with a vase with fresh cut flowers.

Romantika & Arabella have photos of the current lineup of girls, but no service info. My experience in all 3 clubs have not changed. Romantika does have a "this house is condom only or whatever the German translation" sign above the wooden pay lockers.

[Free Dude]

Many a website is now removing any mention of AO. Websites as sexdo and fickanzeiger for instance, but also forums like Freiercafe. There was some explanation on the FC forum, they seem to have reason to think that "the authorities" are already making their preparations for when the law comes into effect. So from now on they won't allow any mention of girls or clubs allowing AO, because they fear it might incriminate them when the law becomes reality (in other words, it might give a reason to do a check on these clubs). On sexdo you had dozens of girls in Krefeld, Dusseldorf and Cologne that clearly stated in their profiles AO was possible, nowadays anything that might give that impression has been taken off. Even with the very same girls.

[Neurosynth]

In search of an F39 substitute (although I knew they wouldn't be. Smaller. Less compelling line up) I went to Villa Romantica and Sauna Grimberg. Both are part of the RTC chain. Both are similar in that the facilities are probably clean and healthy, but unimpressive. The women working there also tend to be carrying extra weight, have sagging boobs, and so on. Nothing terrible, just not F39 quality (let alone, say, Oase or other "non-AO" FKKs.)

But as seems to be the pattern, at each place I was able to find 1 girl who left me quite satisfied.

At Romantica I hooked up with a dyed blond girl named Magdalena, or Madalena, or something else close to that. She was the only one who did it for me physically. She's taller than many, reasonably thin, nice be+ sized breasts that are firm and shapely. Most of all she has (I think) a very cute face. Small chin, nice cheekbones, big eyes. And she seems perky and happy rather than drained and sullen like many of the other girls. More and more I'm letting attitude trump looks, but relative to the women at Romantica on this day she led in both.

Started with the usual public making out and BBBJ. Went to the room. More of the same, and then when it was time for penetration she grabbed a condom and said "put on?" She seemed to want to use one, but then paused expecting me to protest. Which I did. She said OK but don't CIP. The dreaded AO-lite! But she still had a sunny attitude and worked on me well. Then, getting close, I realized I hadn't "pulled out" in many many years. Frankly, I don't recall ever pulling out. I always thought it was really dumb. That if you needed to do that, then you really should be using better birth control. (That's not why the FKK girls want guys to pull out though.) Anyway I expressed my frustration and she smiled and said it would be OK "just for you. " Being flustered by the prior few minutes I had a little trouble, but she got on top and rode me across the finish line like a Belmont Stakes jockey.

(I realize that some are going to think I've revealed too much here. I don't. The end.).

At Grinberg things were more, excuse the expression, grim. Initially I couldn't find a single woman without obvious flaws. Many were overweight. A couple much too old. But from the start Cindy was very explicit and even came over uninvited and sat in my lap and tried to start making out. Usually I would shut down such a girl cold. I really don't like to feel like I'm being played. Oddly, while she was aggressive, I didn't feel that way. I waited quite a while because I wanted to scope out this tall, very skinny girl I had caught a glimpse of. On closer inspection she was perhaps too skinny, and her face had a rather hard expression. I ended up going back to Cindy, again because of personality and a cute face.

Cindy is undeniably chubby. That's usually a show stopper for me. But a good amount of that excess weight made it to her boobs, and they are large without being overly pendulous. Rather nice they are actually. And like I said, she has a cute face. So I flag her over, we make out a bit, and I suggest we go upstairs even before the ritual public BBBJ. Once we get upstairs she asks "with gummy or no?" I say no, and she emphatically, and quite honestly I think, says "Good!" She seems to prefer without. Sex with her was very good, very passionate (or a remarkable simulation thereof), and with good technique. BBBJ, then her on top for a long time while kissing and so on, then finally I took over on top and after a bit bang! And it was over.

So as to the question of F39 substitutes.

On this day, in these places, there was a single girl substitute. Had I wanted to go with two or more girls at either of these places I would have been disappointed. And yes I paid 2 30 euro entry fees. But these two sessions were well worth the 60 euros each they totaled, and I had already planned on checking out both places. I *might* repeat, but the difference between finding 1 girl and 0 girls is not that great in number, but absolutely objectionable in practice. We will see.

[Hessen Bub]

AO has been removed from the website. It just states that DFK, CIM and anal are normal.

HB.

[Myrrh]

Just noticed that FKK Arabella has changed its website now to just a one-pager with no mention of AO. Unfortunately the page is in German and does not translate with google translate but as far as I can see there is no mention.

Previously there had been a sub page of the website with details of the girls and what services they provided including those girls that provided AO. Admittedly that page had been out of date for many months as most of the girls mentioned had moved on long ago, but still it did make clear that Arabs was definitely an AO club.

Now I am just wondering if Arabella have cleaned up their website then like FKK F39 and Dietzenbach they have also removed photos with descriptions of services provided from the reception area inside the club itself?

The bandwagon of AO suppression now seems to be gathering full steam ahead.

[Varenne]

I don't know why you're posting on here

Neither I do. Should this go on, I suggest to continue in a a thread which is more appropriate for generic discussions.

[PussyLiccker]

Not what I meant. New guys are not used to the quality of girls at the top clubs and their reviews of "she is a 10" are reflective of that fact. When you go to FKK's for years you become immune to the beauty so experienced guys will start listing what immaterial flaws a girl has rather than appreciate her beauty, resulting in hardly any to no stunners.

imo the girls you see on the Globe site are not representative of that you see when you get there. Also pretty certain that girls at AO clubs are not as pretty as girls at top non-AO club. Check out the Samya or Dolce Vita (Kappelerstrasse, Dusseldorf) sites since the girls on their sites are more or less up to date.

I think it depends on the person. Some people may have gotten picker with who they go with in terms of looks, and others may have gotten more picker with service levels. But, you'd expect a punter to get pickier with service level over time. I'm sure there are guys that started off at mainstream clubs earlier on, and then later start exploring other options like more service oriented club with girls that more on the table or get into other stuff.

Everybody has a certain criteria in what they look for in a girl as I certainly did even as a newbie, and it really hasn't changed. I'm into girls of certain looks which can be thought of as sort of a poster girl types that find are rare. When I started out, I didn't think majority of the girls were these types, so in that sense I was not so easily swayed by the girls at the clubs or think majority of them were stunners as a newbie. Just thought there alot of naked chicks in one club, and it's a great thing. LOL. There are rare occasions I'd meet a girl I would think of as a stunner, and it's not because I was newbie, but I happen to be lucky to run into them on occasions.

I can't comment on how the girls in AO clubs look as it's not my area, but I imagine that most of them would not be appealing visually, but who knows there could be some lookers as I've been surprised on occasions at less than popular clubs.

[Banana Boi]

Not sure I agree with "what a newbie would consider a stunner". Don't see why I should have lower standards regarding appearance by being a newbie..

Not what I meant. New guys are not used to the quality of girls at the top clubs and their reviews of "she is a 10" are reflective of that fact. When you go to FKK's for years you become immune to the beauty so experienced guys will start listing what immaterial flaws a girl has rather than appreciate her beauty, resulting in hardly any to no stunners.

imo the girls you see on the Globe site are not representative of that you see when you get there. Also pretty certain that girls at AO clubs are not as pretty as girls at top non-AO club. Check out the Samya or Dolce Vita (Kappelerstrasse, Dusseldorf) sites since the girls on their sites are more or less up to date.