FKK Arabella / Villa Venus / Sauna Grimberg - NRW AO Clubs

[Universo Fkk]

Given absence of any first hand information on this thread over the last couple of months, I thought I would post a quick update on how things are at the RTC club at the peak of the cvurrent Omicron wave with Germany for the first time recording over 200,000 new cases in one day this week.

I have struggled with making the decision to go to Germany this week and did not make the call until 2 weeks ago. The trigger was NRW dropping the requirement for having had a negative antigen test within the previous 24 hours of entering the club (which would have meant getting tested every day for the duration of the stay-this was more than I was willing to do). On January 13th NRW wisely dropped that requirement and now the requirement is a vaccination certificate showing that one has received 3 doses (not 2). This made things much easier, since I already have that in my possesion. The other concern was ending up with a positive Covid test which would have resulted me getting stuck in Germany for 2 weeks before being able to fly back to the US, which given my work commitments would have not been possible. I did employ a number of measures to decrease that risk to minimum, one of which was to abandon my usual strategy to bunny-hopping between the clubs and have just visited 2 clubs on this trip and ended up repeating with my favorite girls from previous trips, so have only had sex with 3 girls total this time. In the end, it still beats spending a week at home jerking off in front of the cimputer and I am glad that I made the journey..

So, if girls thankfully are mask-free and men can take off the mask on the couch, they can take it off also if they are speaking with a girl in front of them? I mean, is it possible as in pre-Covid time French kissing a girl on the couch before going in the room?

Thanks so much.

[Neurosynth]

Quantifying risks or being worried over AIDs is irrelevant.

You made an incorrect claim of being clean after AO many women because you didn't get sick. A claim that only recent STD results can make because STDs can be asymptomatic.

I don't care what risks you take with your penis, but don't claim you're clean after barebacking sex workers just because you don't have symptoms. Thats not the way all STDs work.

Not that it's any of your fucking business, but I've been tested.

But my personal experience is just "friendly discussion" on a wh0 reboard. Of no statistical significance. You shouldn't pretend it's relevant at all. One can look up relevant statistics, but even then the average person has trouble getting an intuitive grasp of what a. 01% transmission rate means in terms of their lived life.

One thing is for sure. If you refuse to take any nonzero risk, life becomes impossible. But humans in general are pretty bad at assessing low probability, high cost threats.

[Rocko20]

Yes, of course, I know that, and everyone should. But it's also true that humans have poor assessment capabilities when it comes to quantifying risk, especially in the case of low probability high cost situations. It would be impossible to live taking only zero-risk decisions.

Years ago folks worried much more about AIDS and AO. Then we came to find out female to male transmission was exceedingly rare.

Quantifying risks or being worried over AIDs is irrelevant.

You made an incorrect claim of being clean after AO many women because you didn't get sick. A claim that only recent STD results can make because STDs can be asymptomatic.

I don't care what risks you take with your penis, but don't claim you're clean after barebacking sex workers just because you don't have symptoms. Thats not the way all STDs work.

[Sirioja]

Yes, of course, I know that, and everyone should. But it's also true that humans have poor assessment capabilities when it comes to quantifying risk, especially in the case of low probability high cost situations. It would be impossible to live taking only zero-risk decisions.

Years ago folks worried much more about AIDS and AO. Then we came to find out female to male transmission was exceedingly rare.

I still worry much more than about covid and twins. Must be a reason to be forbidden by new law, even a joke law except for registration.

[Neurosynth]

Many STDs are asymptomatic. Only a recent STD test can confirm whether you're truly clean. Not even correct condom use is 100% effective for everything.

As a monger, there are levels of risk, but nothing is 100% safe.

Yes, of course, I know that, and everyone should. But it's also true that humans have poor assessment capabilities when it comes to quantifying risk, especially in the case of low probability high cost situations. It would be impossible to live taking only zero-risk decisions.

Years ago folks worried much more about AIDS and AO. Then we came to find out female to male transmission was exceedingly rare.

[Neurosynth]

Medellin is in no way like the FKKs...

Thanks, it sounds great! The reason I asked so oddly was I thought maybe there was now a German club named Medellin. LOL.

[Neurosynth]

No changes in pricing from the pre-Covid era. Entry is still 30 Euros. The girls charge 30 Euros for 20 minutes, 40 Euros for 30 minutes and I think it is 50 Euros for 40 minutes. The only exception is Luderland which has its own pricing-if I recall correctly it was 30 Euros for 25 minutes.

Thanks! It's been long enough that I wasn't sure I remembered the prices correctly. Sad but true.

[SneraDog]

Thanks for the reports! I hope to be back in DE after a 2 year break in late April.

What was the pricing like at the door and with the (AO) girls in the room?

No changes in pricing from the pre-Covid era. Entry is still 30 Euros. The girls charge 30 Euros for 20 minutes, 40 Euros for 30 minutes and I think it is 50 Euros for 40 minutes. The only exception is Luderland which has its own pricing-if I recall correctly it was 30 Euros for 25 minutes.

[Rocko20]

FWIW I've done AO in Germany a few hundred times and never even caught a cold.

Many STDs are asymptomatic. Only a recent STD test can confirm whether you're truly clean. Not even correct condom use is 100% effective for everything.

As a monger, there are levels of risk, but nothing is 100% safe.

[YyzTravel]

FWIW I've done AO in Germany a few hundred times and never even caught a cold.

By Medellin do you mean in Columbia? Do they have clubs similar to FKKs in format? Is it safe?

Medellin is in no way like the FKKs; There are clubs of course, and prostitution is legal, but the scene is very different. Facebook is usually king down there and prostitution is a "way of life" for 50% or more women. I use Facebook primarily and usually go for girls still in and right out of high school 18/19. For Colombians, being feminine and sexy women is more important than anything as it's ingrained culturally. You will see girls who will have their nails done 100% of the time but can't pay rent, or use money for plastic surgery or liposuction at 19 or 20. Threesomes to those girls are as normal as Mcdonald's is to Americans. I have had 200+ threesomes, foursomes, etc down there and it's never a taboo thing. I have had no-condom sex with probably 200+ girls in Colombia and never caught anything. But I have a friend here on the board who is super careful and uses condoms often caught herpes so buyer beware. (I think he got it from that Mexican girl he was with for a while, but who knows).

That being said, if you like young girls with black hair and cinnamon skin, Colombia is KING. I pay higher than most guys when I go down there, and usually end up paying 300 COP for sex with 2 girls, for a 6+ hour timeframe, no condom, CIP. Another 300 COP for the drugs + the room service too, so 600 COP in total for a party in the room. 600 mil COP is roughly 140 USD.

This is why I have never visited the FKKs before, and have made 40+ trips to Colombia. That being said, I need my fill of tall skinny white girls and eastern Europeans so I have a trip planned in April.

[Escape Artist]

What about us folks who got the J&J + a booster. That is only 2 jabs total. Do you know how they are handling that?

J&J plus booster now counts as "fully vaxxed" but not boosted, so you will need a daily negative test at clubs and restaurants.

[Neurosynth]

This is really common with girls in Medellin, but most of those girls are 18/19. Girls, that are in these AO locations that are higher mileage, do they need to have STD tests? Love to go BB, but would like to have a least a little level of assurance from certain points in time from tests.

FWIW I've done AO in Germany a few hundred times and never even caught a cold.

By Medellin do you mean in Columbia? Do they have clubs similar to FKKs in format? Is it safe?

[Neurosynth]

AO is German - "Alles Ohne" or no condom sex….

"Everything without".

[Neurosynth]

Yes, I have remained Covid-free.

Thanks for the reports! I hope to be back in DE after a 2 year break in late April.

What was the pricing like at the door and with the (AO) girls in the room?

[SneraDog]

Does having the covid cert showing 3 jabs currently suffice going into clubs, hotels, restaurants etc in NRW?

Or has the situation changed since Sneradog was there end of January. Rules seem to change all the time in hoormany at the moment.

BTW Sneradog have you remained covid free since your visit to hoormany?

Thank you for your kind words.

Yes, I have remained Covid-free.