FKK Arabella / Villa Venus / Sauna Grimberg - NRW AO Clubs

[Free Dude]

Alice was in Dietzenbach a couple of weeks ago and not in Arabella today. It being a Sunday it was fairly quiet and it looks like Raissa's vacation did her good. She was in a good mood, looks great and the best session yet with her (and the most fun too). Second best looker is Alexandra, formerly Verena, who is leaving for a 3 week holiday this Saturday. Here I would say you could see that she is due for a break.

At the moment Villa Venus is pretty good, with some new girls and an unexpected sighting of Lori (in Dietzenbach, here Nataly). Good atmosphere with Manele at 1 pm, obviously on one of the days that Barbara isn't the theke.

[Hessen Bub]

Does Alice plan to return to Dietzenbach? Thought she moved her home base there.

HB.

[EastGoing]

I repeatedly hit Arabella. No new arrivals, Elena definitely lost, Raissa on holiday. I democratically decided to go with the girls I hadn't had yet, with the exclusion of the 3 MILFs (german Sandra and Michelle plus bulgarian Mary) and of the dominican girl. The latter must be 34 years old, has silicone boobs and works only with condom.
This means that I included the only other girl who works covered in Arabella.

- Silvia a nigerian black panther working there sporadically, I finished in her mouth thanks to her great blowing. I chose her to have the pleasure to hold, hug, touch, fuck a body to my taste: tall, slim, firm, proportionate, she could be a model, only her boobs could be better, being small and not too firm;

- Gina 19 year old with a face of at least 26, a bit chubby, I had seen her in action on a sofa with an old lad, I thought she could be funny. Actually, as I told her, my main hope was that after sessioning with her, she would leave me in peace and keep far, which unfortunately didn't;

- Alice I caught her on her first day in Arabella, she was just back from Romania after a couple of months, she said she had been working a few months in Dietzenbach before. Phisically decent and fuckable, face not too pretty and not too cheerful, for the first time in my life I was asked to fuck "straightly" when mish, because if I swing rightwards or leftwards I might hurt girls' ovaries;

- Karina nice, polite, gentle, unfortunately a bit heavy and saggy phisically, even if proportionate. She was last prey, but never quitted smiling and talking to me, differently from other girls who had been chosen, even repeatedly, in the past or before her.

The only one I couldn't have was Aida. Pretty, short, slim, very cheerful, even better behaviour and attitude than Karina, her main (if not only one, considering her size and proportions) defect were the saggy boobs. Being so short and slim, having "big" saggy boobs was a downside. Last day I saw her, she unexpectedly left at 4 pm, I don't know why, I just know that's quite uncommon, perhaps I will post some considerations in the AO Lounge thread about working conditions.

Raissa came back for the weekend. She was in a hurry on sofas for zimmer and in a hurry in zimmer for sofas, like if she had to recover the time and sessions she missed while away. At least, at last a girl I could willingly zimmer, have intimacy, kiss, AO, etc.
She is not some supergirl, but really, out of what I met in this trip, she was outstanding.

Another annoying problem is that "morally" you can't take always the same girl (s). Not because of rules, but because to other girls' eyes and even to your own eyes, it may seem that you flew and/or go to that particular club only for a specific girl (s). Of course it's not true, but that may come up as final objective result. Not good.

[EastGoing]

i decided, for various reasons, to finally give a chance to villa romantica.
i think my report is the first one in isg about it, this makes me feel important, lol!

it is the easiest club to reach and the closest to stops of public means of transportation. on a rainy day, as was mine, you won't need an umbrellar: you walk out recklinghausen hbf, less than 10 metres in front of you there is a bus station, exactly in front of you there is hst 6, for bus 236, to alte grenz str. it comes once per hour, if you see it's going to be a long wait, then search for the place of bus 237, it runs once per hour as well but in 30 minutes distance, i don't know from what hst though. i had taken notes of the route before my previous trip, so i knew i had to count 11 stops, or anyway i had to get off at lanuv stop. but when i read the route i noticed blitzkuhlen str, 2-3 stops before the supposed one. fearing i had made a mistake, i got off at that stop. that was the mistake, luckily i wasn't far. lanuv stop is maybe 30 metres from the club, crossing the street.

the club has the shape of a circle, lights don't enlighten that much. you enter in what we could call the main lounge, because there's a tv with porn movies and you overlook the following lounge with the counter. the 4 lounges are more or less all of the same dimension, 3-4 sofas capable of accommodating some 8-10 persons, the one where there is the entrance of the sauna is without tv, another one is bigger than the other ones, both good for isolating. at the left of the entrance you have 3 showers, at their left, behind saloon-like doors, there are 2 urinals hanging from the wall. i felt shy in asking where a proper toilet could be, luckily i didn't need it.
towels are kept behind a closed door, if i'm not mistaken by the antechamber by the entrance itself. rooms are upstairs. i didn't bother to check, but a guy who befriended me eventually, told me they are only 3. in his phone call tf had told him 9 girls were available.
so, all this to accommodate... 6 girls and 2 men, when i arrived in early afternoon. tf, hardly speaking any english but at least making efforts to make you understand, had said on the phone that there were "8 girls! but beautiful!" to joke, i think that in her poor english she forgot to put at the beginning of the 2nd sentence the word "everything" (but beautiful). actually a 7th one arrived with bulky luggages (but still thinner than her) at about 7 pm.

i paid the usual 60 euros with a room included, and became guest star of the 4 girls sitting in the main lounge. a decently romanian speaking alien landing there filled their boring empty afternoon, i felt like an attraction, a mascot. rep001tered in the deserts were the only bulgarian present, another romanian girl on her own and the other 2 guests, eventually other 2-3 arrived. i must say that i'm finding out in clubs that quite a few germans can handle romanian language, it's funny to speak with german guys in romanian rather than in english.
the girls were not at all unfuckable, i have seen much worse, but none of them lit any spark in me, for one reason or another, all of them had something passable, also in comparison to the other ones, but also something that would stop me. 2-3 of them put in vv a couple of days before, probably would have made me feel less desperately hopeless when looking for the alternative to laura.

in front of me was sitting alexandra, apart from the small saggy tits, she looked pretty and with a good shaped firm body. i chose her. from close up she looked less pretty, i refused kissing. her bum had like pimples, anyway, she did her best to please me as much as possible, surely praiseworthy. once again, it was me being a bit of a wooden muppet, because i couldn't feel passion, attraction, involvement, etc. i fucking get frustrated for that, i wish i could extract their pussies from their bodies for the needed time and rub my dick into them before replacing them, to avoid other physical contacts, eye contact, talking, etc.
since i had no inspiration and i was even fearing a "hydraulic failure", i considered leaving, but i had gone that far, hoping in who knows what, maybe re-meeting the various nicole, bianca and other ones who have been named recently supposing they were there (btw, i was told many girls had to come back from vacation), i couldn't ask on the phone because i wasn't sure they had kept their old names... in the end i said to myself that i had wanted the bike, then i had to cycle.

second choice was maggie, a little bulgarian "frog". i'd define her a less "pretty" smaller version of grimberg's lily (!!!). i had read 1-2 great posts about her. i thought that at least with her we wouldn't have been able to speak a single word, so whatever could have happened, there would have been no explainations, no comments, nothing at all. not kissable, not sexy, not too accommodating, the only remarkable thing she did was to notice a little kissmark on my neck and... make a big one beside it and a smaller one on the other side. in the following days girls were staring at them, joking, questioning, etc. i was only fearing that there could be a sort of competition for the biggest kissmarker or that my neck would become a sort of "signature" board.

all in all my time there was quite fine: the atmosphere was very relaxed, i enjoyed girl's company, i had jokes with romanian speaking german guys, i befriended an english speaking guy, i didn't have empty boring lonely moments, i had 2 successful shots... i would feel guilty towards their kindness if i "officially" drew a negative conclusion, especially if there are some other 6/7 girls i didn't see...
but i think it's clear that, depending on where you are based, you will not go a long distance or skip other clubs to give priority to this one, at least for what i saw.

[EastGoing]

Thanks for your answer, Varenne.

My last question was supposed to be a sort of appeal, a sort of pm, quite stupid though, I was in a hurry and didn't reason on it properly. Of course I wouldn't post in open forum, nor I expect someone to answer in open forum, maybe not even by pm. I can't count how many "confidential" things I've come through and withheld, this of course would be one of them. I posted the question because I wouldn't like to go as far as Dortmund for a 20 minutes covered session with her. At this point, if I go there, I will not even report. My mistake.

[Varenne]

So, does this mean that I can fuck her all day, in sessions of 20 minutes time, after I pay my flatrate entrance? Since she's so moody, can she refuse that? TF can sort out problems? Do you know if she uses / the condoms also with her regulars from AO clubs, if and how much she would ask for that?

Sessions do last whole 20 minutes in Pauschalclubs, but I doubt you can keep repeating with the same girl over and over. Even if no rule explicitely prevents that, you'll at least be asked to interpose another girl between two consecutive sessions, and that will virtually limit you to a maximum of 3 sessions. And yes, girls have many ways to deny a session even without openly refusing it. I think that TF wouldn't see it as a problem is she tries to share her services with as many different customers as she can. I never heard girls asking for extras in Pauschalclubs, and I don't think AO is on the menu. If she eventually offers that you'd better keep it confidential or I expect she'll face troubles with management and other girls.

[EastGoing]

Looks definitely her in the pictures. She had already worked in Pauschalclub Bochum in the past, before returning to VV, so I'm not surprised she's now in Dortmund.

Thanks for confirming she already worked in a PC, so german fellas were right... There was another guy like me saying he couldn't imagine her flatrate and with condoms.

So, does this mean that I can fuck her all day, in sessions of 20 minutes time, after I pay my flatrate entrance? Since she's so moody, can she refuse that? TF can sort out problems? Do you know if she uses / the condoms also with her regulars from AO clubs, if and how much she would ask for that?

Thanks.

[Varenne]

I can't imagine her working with condoms! It's against her principles, LOL!! And in a Pauschal club!!! Such a dickhead would last less than a couple of hours chain-fucking flatrate.

Looks definitely her in the pictures. She had already worked in Pauschalclub Bochum in the past, before returning to VV, so I'm not surprised she's now in Dortmund.

[EastGoing]

I newer read positive reports about this club. Is something better going there now?

Hy Jym,

Once last week I heard 2 guys speaking Russian by the lockers, maybe it was in VV, I thought about you.
I don't know about Verena, nor I have ever read anything good or particularly interesting about there, but it seems that a couple of "talents" have passed by there, even if for a short while. As I said, in one of my next trips I may try it, especially if it will be officially declared that Laura is there and the usual clubs I visit offer so little.

BTW, I wish I could read and write german without the "help" (?) of google translator, to join german fellas.
As a pastime, I put these links for those willing to participate to the searches of Laura going on in german forums.
Will ISG members arrive before german forums members?

http://www.freiercafe.org/showthread.php?p=188683,
starting from this one you will get other links with discussions, clues, hints and info about her.

Then, if this one works, http://www.freiercafe.com/showthread.php?t=29952

This is what you'll get to after some other clicks:

http://www.pauschalclub.de/dortmund/girl/laura

As you may understand, there is a lot of confusion. In VV I was told she should be in Verena, AO club, which surely is her cup of tea. I can't imagine her working with condoms! It's against her principles, LOL!! And in a Pauschal club!!! Such a dickhead would last less than a couple of hours chain-fucking flatrate.

Pics resemble her, but they must be photoshopped: her hair was light brown last month, she seems to weigh quite a few kilos more, the body looks firmer and bigger, strangely no pics of her back, which is her best part inspite of many brown stains, but the face is hers, with slight adjustments. I can't tell about the colour of the eyes because I was always getting lost into them, but I don't remember them so light blue.

Waiting to write more about my recent trip, I welcome detectives, unfortunately with her no private contacts were ever exchanged.

[Jymondor]

It seems that "my" Laura is now in Verena, Dortmund.

I newer read positive reports about this club. Is something better going there now?

[EastGoing]

VV, tuesday 6th of may.

It seems that I was there the day after Bobbyson, who seems to have troubles even with the calendar, as I already said, obviously joking, in AO Chat and Lounge thread.
It seems that I found a whole different contingent of girls in attendance.

As usual, I phoned in advance to ask if Laura and another one or two were there. Barbara said only Laura was present, more than enough for me. I arrived, paid happily (no headache about choosing in advance) the 60 euros entrance with one girl included and quickly reached back the main floor.
My target wasn't there, obviously she must have been busy. I gave a look around: I had been there only one month before, but I could recognize only Magda, Lily and Maia, not even the always present Larissa was there. Girls must have been about 13, I wondered if the old faces were off, on holiday, or left (or, more likely, got fired by spitfire TF). The 2 new girls worth a try that I had noticed on my previous visit were absent too. I sat in front of the sofa that I knew, but I also was told after asking, was occupied by Laura. A girl in a sofa close to mine had started chatting me up since I had arrived. Her face was quite pretty, she was very nice, but a bit chubby. Shortly after a new girl came and sat in front of me. Not bad, actually doable, but such a sad face expression.
To make it short, it came out that I was waiting for Laura... but Laura was sitting in front of me! I felt like in a supposed-to-be comic movie. 2-3 girls confirmed and laughed at my astonishment, even the new Laura smiled, showing off her teeth, which made me classify her as unkissable and not choosable. I went to the counter, Barbara confirmed. I couldn't make her understand, due to the language barrier, how disappointed I was for the misunderstanding: my point was that she should have recognized me by the voice, accent and usual question, or she could have specified that there was a new Laura.

The ceiling fell on me. My favourite girl, my biggest, if not only, reason for going to VV (second one being that I'm based in Duisburg) had told me that she was to leave or, equally if not more true, to be sent away. Of course I couldn't post it in forum, hoping it wouldn't happen. And I couldn't see alternatives around me... I had paid 60, I had a girl included, of course I couldn't leave undone, but how would I choose? Blindfolded? By lottery draw? By doing some rhyme count like children playing? No truly unfuckable girls around, but no fuckable girls either, for one reason or another, obviously to my taste.

The most correct solution was suggested by the girl who had entertained me for all that time. She convinced me she could have consoled me. She deserved me to go with her even only for the time and effort she took for picking up my pieces and putting them together. Maybe it was thought that I was very affectionated to Laura, whom I'll surely miss, I hope and prefer so, it would be bad if they understood that my desperation was due more to the lack of alternatives, to the thought of being forced to go with (luckily only) one of them, to the thought that I could have gone somewhere else, etc.
She was so nice, I don't even want to think that she did it because of the lack of customers, really an empty afternoon, 2-3 other men around.
So, I went to the room with Elena, new in VV, coming from Alina with other 3-4 girls (at least). I don't remember well the details, I think she blew me well and then we fucked cowgirl and spoon. I think I remember she was kissable but I didn't kiss her. She put great effort and committment, really praiseworthy, unfortunately she wasn't my type of girl, I think and hope that I was enough a good actor and didn't make her understand. Even after, she warmly greeted me. If you like a bit chubby girls, I strongly recommend her. Needless to say, I left, quite disappointed, after the session.

It seems that "my" Laura is now in Verena, Dortmund. In next trip I may try another new club, if the ones I tried last week are in such bad conditions. Since sceneries can change quickly, and it takes just one two girls to make the difference, even if that may mean to repeat always the same ones, I hope things will get better. Unfortunately I will have to go and verify personally for safety nets in VV, unless somebody posts about worthy girls

[EastGoing]

I surely agree that it is terribly difficult to go back to covered after having done AO. I always had that problem after splitting with a girlfriend. After my last one I decided I (hopefully) wouldn't have anymore, and I remember discussing with the SW I've dealt with since longest time (this is our 11th year, we are aging together, LOL!) that my only regret was that I wouldn't have been able to fuck anymore a bareback pussy in my life, and I wasn't an old hopeless lad. Of course I was aware of Thailand, Philippines, etc, but I wouldn't have had the courage to BB an "untested" girl, I already explained how stupid I consider myself for finding the courage with girls who get some 20 AO daily, but in a club, legally and controlled (...)

Last year I had tried to go to Oase and World after experiencing NRW AO clubs, it was too difficult, I drove back to NRW and went also to Dietzenbach! This winter I took also a couple of holidays in "normal" countries, covered stuff, too difficult, I'm back in NRW, whenever I can.

This said and agreed, I must admit that visiting certain clubs with certain girls sometimes makes me think and remember of how nice it would be to deal with a beautiful girl, not even a stunner, just a beautiful girl that you enjoy (or don't "suffer") watching, touching, even kissing, instead of just carrying out the task with girls you feel sacrificed with, inspite of their efforts, availability to whatever (like DFK, which very often I avoid) and great service.

In this trip I even tried a club new to me, Villa Romantica, but I really wasn't that satisfied, I hope my next trip will be luckier. To be optimistic, I hope I just caught wrong days with valid girls off...

[Vito Corleone]

There was actually one girl there that it was her very first day! It was confirmed by the other girls and the old woman at the desk! And I was her first customer! That was a nice feeling knowing I was the first longer to creampie her pussy! She was very tall and great tits and ass!

Just because it is her first day at a club, does not mean you were her first cream pie. She could have been with 10 clients the day before. These girls move from club to club, all AO & same owners.

[Dreams]

Went on Friday may 5th.

It's going to be hard to go back to the covered FKK places I think.

!

Indeed. Since my first visit to Arabella and VV, I have not gone back to any of the big FRA clubs. Not because of the AO offer, but because of the "normal (= no divas)" attitude, and the "no extra" policies, which includes CIM, CIP, COF and anal and all that at much lower costs. (Just check with the girl before agrreing what she does, some don't do everything, but whatever they do is included in the initial price.).

[Bobbyson]

Went on Friday may 5th.

I am horrible with names, I apologize!

There were 14 girls there!

Honestly there were only 1 or 2 that I wouldn't do, I was suprised at the quality. A few of the girls could have easily been at FKK golden time. (Where I normaly go)

I have been wanting to try these AO clubs for quite some time. I went to Dietzenbach in January and was completely sold! It's going to be hard to go back to the covered FKK places I think.

There was actually one girl there that it was her very first day! It was confirmed by the other girls and the old woman at the desk! And I was her first customer! That was a nice feeling knowing I was the first longer to creampie her pussy! She was very tall and great tits and ass!

I ended up doing 4 sessions. With two threesomes. All AO and all CIP. One of the girls said no CIP. I acted sad and during the session was sweet talking her. And by the end of the session she allowed me to CIP!

Took a couple days off and will hit another club tomorrow!