FKK Arabella / Villa Venus / Sauna Grimberg - NRW AO Clubs

[BigBuddy69]

I agree with JB. Most of the time the girls are in the main reception room. Last time Vanessa danced a bit (and I had a wonderful view on her perfect tits). And with Kathi you can have a lot of couch kissing, even if I am growing tired of her. If you play it "safe" and if you go to CA on a Sunday or on a Tuesday, for 70 € you can have one hour with a hot girl willing to please. Most of the girls are really better looking than in VV.

Too bad that last time with Lisa at the reception, I had to pay for some overtime even if I looked at my watch and I'm pretty sure it was for 5 minutes maximum.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

[QUOTE=EastGoing; 1547256]That's why I also avoid Club Angelique, the smallest of those I have visited: not only because it is more expensive, but because girls will not give me any extra time, nor before not after. They stay in a personnel room and they normally come out when the bell rings. Once a choice is made, or you make it clear you are not going to the room in the following 2 minutes, they go back in there or anyway sit at a "safety distance".

While it's true that many times the girls don't all hang around the main reception room, I have been there when the girls were dancing to the music, and generally at least some girls are in the main reception room most times. Also, once you make your selection, you can go to the glass-enclosed room (I think it's the smoking area) and make out for a while with the girl before going to have sex (I also made out with Kathi on the couch in the main reception room and nobody batted an eye).

[EastGoing]

CD,

Everything you say is correct and I agree. Everybody got their own opinion and preferences.

I express my points:

Precisely because these clubs can be quite boring, I need and enjoy some "company", not because I want or I look for grilfriends, and surely a female company is better than a male one. Also, I guess we don't go in clubs to approach men, LOL!

Especially in these small clubs, punters stay on their own, are normally quite older than me and don't look too keen on conversations, probably many can speak only german. If there was a big garden or a pool it wouldn't make that difference to me, maybe a table tennis or football table would, but still I would have to find someone to join me. Wi-fi would be good, but, agreeable or not, I don't travel to go in clubs where I'm surrounded by naked women ready to do anything (or a bit less than anything if the club is not AO) to play table tennis or surf the net. I go, shoot my bullets, fill the recharging time as well as I can but still exhaminating the girls' looks and behaviours and then leave, unless I get entertained in conversations. 4-5 hours are normally even too many for me, in any case.

That's why I also avoid Club Angelique, the smallest of those I have visited: not only because it is more expensive, but because girls will not give me any extra time, nor before not after. They stay in a personnel room and they normally come out when the bell rings. Once a choice is made, or you make it clear you are not going to the room in the following 2 minutes, they go back in there or anyway sit at a "safety distance".

I can command, at different levels, but even the lowest is well more than decent. 4 languages and I bothered to learn little Romanian, girls appreciate it a lot, they are favourably impressed, which gives me a further edge. I know nothing of bulgarian and pratically nothing of german, which is why I prefer to avoid zimmering bulgarians,"if I can". Anyway, when I defined a probable cold session the one I could have had with the bulgarian girl in VV and the one I had in Arabella, I compared them to what I could expect with a girl I can talk to. I would have given a good score to Nadja's session, in a different context or place: she carried out the task efficiently, without sparing any energy, without any hassle.

However, personally speaking, I go in clubs for the girls, I don't care too much about environments and facilities, I couldn't stay too many hours anyway. The only times I did that, in Oase and World, it was because I was with a pal, but I found it heavy and boring anyway, and kept tampering him for leaving after 4-5 hours, he wanted to stay until closing time!

I know food is pratically inexistent, I eat before and after. I don't care about drinks, saunas, furnitures, roman columns or red carpets, crystal chandeliers or simple bulbs, marbles or stones. I want to have peace of mind, nice time and, most important, sexual satisfaction, I could do that even in a cave or in the woods (done it, LOL!).

I know more or less what to expect in these minor clubs, that's why I phoned in advance checking for safety nets. I sacrifice beauty for service, not really for the money, even if I don't even want to try to imagine how much an Artemis stunner would ask for an AO session, maybe with CIA. Anyway normally at least a couple of girls outstand the other ones (I don't need to shoot 8) and they could compete in better clubs. In my described last VV visit there was one only, I took her twice and was happy.

If prices of VV and Oase were the same, or even Oase cheaper, maybe out of 10 trips I could fly once, max twice for Burgholzausen, but I guess the following day (if not the same one) I would head to Dietzenbach or NRW, as I already did in the mentioned accompanied trip.

Mind you, I consider beauty very important, but that is not all and may not be enough, on the contrary it would upset me a lot to be fished by a shark or to session with a stunner without unloading.

Anyway, tastes are tastes, but normally in AO clubs I have been with girls who were at least reasonably fuckable (honestly it has happened that it took a little effort) , no unfuckable ones, the "worst" ones anyway compensated with the service. AOing alone makes a big difference, but of course I'm not going to fuck a cow. Also, some of them were very fuckable: I'm quite sure that if you saw VV's Laura dressed and not smiling too much among the other girls outside before Oase's opening time you would consider sessioning with her, but even naked you'd give her a look, especially if you saw her from behind.

Furthermore, a few of the "very fuckable" ones told me that they moved (or stay) in these clubs from the normal and bigger ones because they work much more, let's hope more will follow. In big clubs they have great competition in quality and quantity, maybe they make 4 customers in one day, while in RTC clubs they can make even 15-20. Yes, I know, it's extremely riskier, but this is another issue.

Just my opinion

[Dreams]

I guess I also understand where you come from on this issue EastGoing.

However, generally speaking, choice of good looking hookers can be very limited in these smaller clubs. A lot of the girls will not speak English (or sometimes German even). Club food / facilities are also (generally speaking) very limited and can leave a lot to be desired by comparison with the mega-clubs. You are basically getting bareback and couch-time and an inexpensive price in clubs like Arabella / Venus / Grimberg and are prepared (generally speaking) to accept lesser looking women in order to achieve these benefits. Some of us do not want bareback (or know how to get same in the mega-clubs) and are either not needing excessive couch-time with these girls (because they are hookers and not girlfriends) or are prepared (or have the budget) to pay for same. Also do not automatically assume that couch-time is not available to well known customers particularly during quieter days. IMO it comes down to this; you are prepared (sometimes) to accept lesser looks in return for a lesser fee and bareback / couch-time. Others (like myself) are prepared to pay a bit more for good looks extra services and better facilities. The above statements are generally speaking and I am aware that there are exceptions applicable to all of the above statements.

I wish you well.

CD

So, basically, we agree.

Those clubs offer different services than those other big ones. And it is nice to have a choice.

For years, ignoring even the existence of those "cheap" NRW clubs, I used to go to all the big ones, in the FRA area, plus Artemis, Colosseum etc. I started to get tired of those, especially as I became older, and finding it difficult to cum inside with a condom. Which meant that I had to pay at least 100 if not more per session, just to COB, and this after hard negociation in the middle of the act. I am not going to VV or similar places for AO, but for the relaxing, non-sharked, all included atmosphere

But what you say is right, if one wants a large choice of optifucks, with uncertain quality of services, and no extras, big clubs are better.

Again, to each his own, and thanks to those in this forum who exposes only facts, without judgment, leaving each reader to decide for himself.

[Capt Dan]

I guess I also understand where you come from on this issue EastGoing.

However, generally speaking, choice of good looking hookers can be very limited in these smaller clubs. A lot of the girls will not speak English (or sometimes German even). Club food / facilities are also (generally speaking) very limited and can leave a lot to be desired by comparison with the mega-clubs. You are basically getting bareback and couch-time and an inexpensive price in clubs like Arabella / Venus / Grimberg and are prepared (generally speaking) to accept lesser looking women in order to achieve these benefits. Some of us do not want bareback (or know how to get same in the mega-clubs) and are either not needing excessive couch-time with these girls (because they are hookers and not girlfriends) or are prepared (or have the budget) to pay for same. Also do not automatically assume that couch-time is not available to well known customers particularly during quieter days. IMO it comes down to this; you are prepared (sometimes) to accept lesser looks in return for a lesser fee and bareback / couch-time. Others (like myself) are prepared to pay a bit more for good looks extra services and better facilities. The above statements are generally speaking and I am aware that there are exceptions applicable to all of the above statements.

I wish you well.

CD

[Breadman]

The "passion" and effort girls put in these clubs is unmatchable by the better looking girls of the glamorous clubs.

I won't agree with you on this but I know where your coming from. I used to do all the smaller clubs, fkk cocoon, zeus and heavens gate to name a few. The service was top notch and you could find some lookers in the clubs. And 30 euro's per session was easy on the budget. Problems arose when the larger clubs started opening, made it harder to find the quality talent along with the cheaper rates. And its very hard to spend an entire day in these small clubs. The facilities just don't cut it. Now that airfare is triple what I used to pay, I'd rather spend my time at the larger clubs.

[EastGoing]

Thanks for your answer, BB69.

CD,

thanks for your feedback and appreciation. Surely what you say is not wrong, and is agreeable by many points of view. Some of my "answers" are already written, by me and also by Dreams: we talk about 30 euros for all inclusive hassle-free shark-free service. The "passion" and effort girls put in these clubs is unmatchable by the better looking girls of the glamorous clubs.

A) dealing with a more expensive, hurried, probably wooden girl,

Be) who will give me a minor service and less options inspite of some, not all, additional expensive available extras,

See) knowing that I'm highly likely not to finish (ok, that's my personal problem with condoms) , as it happened to me in Artemis, where I unloaded once out of 3 sessions, with "only" 260 euros damage because I didn't take any extras,

Those things don't attract me, and make me rather these small clubs, whose girls also have a much friendlier attitude. I can't imagine a girl in Artemis or Oase staying on the couch with me just as a company for a few hours, without paying her, maybe without even sessioning with her. Aside personal records, in bigger clubs when you approach or get approached and you are not going to "proceed", you will be instantly dumped, in these clubs you (or at least it happens to me with some of the girls, of course not all) can even just chat as a past time.

I just report what happens to me, what I feel, it can be liked or not, I respect other people's tastes and opinions, hoping they respect mine too.

As to health issues, as I said, a wrong person, man or girl, is enough to spoil plenty of people. As I wrote, some concerns exist but you must leave them out, the solution would be safe sex, the best solution would be chastity or wanking.

Thanks for your wishes, I will need more than that, LOL!

Soon I'll post about my visit in Grimberg, which was in the overall the best of the 3, maybe you will like it more, but I don't think there will be much poetry this time :-)

[Capt Dan]

I had met her for the first time in September. So, she said she remembered me but not the details, not difficult to believe, after months, she being such a dickhead and meeting, probably with her normal unkindness, hundreds of men. I remembered she had one tooth missing on the right side of the upper arcade, now I noticed there were another 2 missing going towards the inside, a poor one was left alone when she smiled too much. For the rest, apart slightly saggy boobs, but she's 32 and mother of 2, I would say that strictly phisically speaking, she's the best looking girl of VV, and surely not only in there: she's Romanian, tall, with a great backside, has a pretty beautiful face and eyes I get lost in. Even without getting a bit "fixed", she could well work in better clubs. She gave me a good looong funny couch time, basically maltreating me, LOL!

Let's just say that anyway prices and service are worth a visit, you can expect a lot for your dick, but not for your eyes

Chap,

I would not go with her even if it were for free. Disregarding the description of this woman's status and appearance (saggy boobs. 32, mother of 2) , one wonders that if you visit with her for a third time, by then will she have any teeth left? One also questions why she is loosing teeth. Certainly not from DFK. Is the Tooth Fairy responsible for this dental loss or perhaps a more sinister cause? As you suggest, if this is the best that is on offer in this club, you are very welcome indeed!

I fully realize that what occurs in the more glamorous mega-clubs would surprise many in this forum but at least the plushness (of the mega-clubs) and the attractiveness of the hookers in these mega establishments, allows the punter to escape from the cares and realities of day to day existence. The grotty and grotesque feeling I get when reading your report about Villa Venus would make me steer way clear of this establishment. I certainly commend your writing skills, but I wish your subject matter was more in line with what I believe the majority of members (who frequent the Germany FKK Clubs Section) wish to read about in this forum (that is nice times, with attractive girls in nice surroundings). Although I do realize that some will not like me saying this and indeed some will relish the prospect of following in your footsteps. Despite having said all of the above, nevertheless I commend you for writing as you have with some style (although it does transgress occasionally into the realm of prostitute poetry). I certainly do wish you well, good health and happiness.

CD

[BigBuddy69]

@ Eastgoing : You're right, it was Wednesday the 5th. For the price change, I noticed it after my second or my third session I don't remember, it was in the middle of the afternoon.

[EastGoing]

I already wrote a couple of things about my return to VV in my second-last post. Again, before going I had phoned to make sure I could have safety nets (since in these clubs beauty is not abundant), supposed to be Laura, Bonnie and Alexa. We must consider that we talk about all inclusive service, for about 30 minutes, at the price of 30 euros! My round trip train tickets Duisburg-Wattenscheid or Duisburg-Gelsenkirchen cost 22 euros. VV is in Duisburg, with Strasserbahn I spend 3 euros, which probably should actually be 5, but I often try to "save" on public means.

I was opened the door by a bulgarian girl I didn't know, just half a smile, no words, she abandoned me by Barbara at the counter. She looked quietly fuckable, just a bit short, but proportionate, a possible candidate, considering average expected bodies.

Since stepping in the hall, and from my position in front of TK, my eyes "unconsciously" immediately looked ahead, over the bar, by the opposite sofa at the bottom of the hall. Laura was sitting on her sofa, already scanning me. Her witty eyes were penetrating me, surely she remembered seeing me in the past, but she looked like doubtful. She didn't remember well about me? Or she didn't know what to do with me this time?

The place was nearly empty, I could count hardly 5 girls and 2 punters, probably many rooms were busy. When I went downstairs I met a few girls. 2-3 were busy with laundry, but the other ones gave me the impression to be "hiding". 2 were alone in the sauna, never seen that, I thought they were not allowed.

Back upstairs, I slowly walked towards my "magnet", like if I was wandering randomly. When I saw she was fine with that, I went straight to her. A little preamble: she's very moody and unbelievably dickhead, which is probably what I like most in her, even if I reckon that staring at her eyes closely, possibly during a mish, should be charged as an extra. It's a sort of sadic experience, she's a real rebel and she gets offended very easily, inspite of being her provoking and maltreating you, she doesn't appreciate you reacting, not even as a joke. Once I had to "beg" her to forgimme and come in the room, once she didn't want me at all. She does if and what she wants, carelessly, you can't govern her, she's in control, not you, she chooses positions, what to do and what not, how long, you follow her instructions, not the contrary, etc, that works on the sofa as well as in the room.

I had met her for the first time in September. So, she said she remembered me but not the details, not difficult to believe, after months, she being such a dickhead and meeting, probably with her normal unkindness, hundreds of men. I remembered she had one tooth missing on the right side of the upper arcade, now I noticed there were another 2 missing going towards the inside, a poor one was left alone when she smiled too much. For the rest, apart slightly saggy boobs, but she's 32 and mother of 2, I would say that strictly phisically speaking, she's the best looking girl of VV, and surely not only in there: she's Romanian, tall, with a great backside, has a pretty beautiful face and eyes I get lost in. Even without getting a bit "fixed", she could well work in better clubs. She gave me a good looong funny couch time, basically maltreating me, LOL!

In the room, as I remembered, she categorically refused even to hear the word "condom". Her motto: "if you want to use that thing, you go with another girl". Thinking of that reminds me of some news you read sometimes, of sick girls willing to spread infections, recently I came across this:

http://www.kenyan-post.com/2014/03/s...e-student.html

But in such places doing such things, having such worries is quiet pointless: all it takes is one wrong person and all the club, and then all clubs, will be infected, punters included.

The session was good, unfortunately she had a cold with a bit blocked up nose, so little blowing and no kissing, but I couldn't complain (with her you couldn't anyway, LOL). We (she) didn't bother about time, I enjoyed some relaxing after session "fighting".

Then I looked for a peaceful hidden corner to rest, and I saw Bonnie, ex Arabella. She saw me, she was staring at me, I turned my head, I wanted to rest, also I remembered we had no common languages, I would have gone later to her, what would have I done on her sofa since we couldn't communicate? A friend of mine had sessioned with her in Wattenscheid, he had been quite satisfied but sorry for being unable to exchange 2 words. Our glances met quite a few times for more than an hour. I took note of the "absences", some I was aware of, some I wasn't. Bianca, if I recall well, is said to be in Romantica; I heard Aida has been sent away, I don't remember why; Alexandra ex Arabella left, so did Flori. I didn't know about Nathaly and other ones, of course I couldn't ask one by one, I had understood on the phone that another Alexa, who gets good reviews in german forums, was off. A couple of girls I had already had in past visits tried to hook me up, but I politely refused, I told them I was waiting for Bonnie.

When I felt "ready", I sat in the sofa near hers, waiting for her return. When she came back I greeted her using her real name, she was very cold and unresponsive, then left for a minute. A punter witnessing told me to try again. When she came back, I tried to tell her something, she said she spoke only german and turned her head. Got the message, I walked away.

I wasn't sure about what to do, I didn't feel very keen on making experiments, I wasn't really fancying the girls around. Maybe the girl who had opened the door when I arrived? It would have been a meeting without any communication, just mechanical, without particular fun or participation, no comments, nothing but action, probably cold, like the one with Nadja in Arabella. I headed towards her. She was by the drinks machine, but then Laura walked beside going to her sofa. What a striking difference! WTF, I knew what was the right choice, I had always known it, since the beginning, moreover after giving a look around to the available girls. During rest time I had even bothered to find a German fellow to ask Barbara if I could session twice with the same girl, because it wasn't clear, I had already sessioned with her twice in the same day, but it was last year. Also, that day she was in "good" mood and she hadn't even hurt me, LOL!

Final consideration: the club has lost a lot of talents, and beauty (which wasn't anyway that much also before) is not really something you can expect to see in there. I saw less unfuckable girls than in the past, this time the girls were just fuckable, with more or less effort and fantasy, and didn't seem too enthusiastic, didn't send out good vibes, the atmosphere was quite cold. There's been a moment the music stopped for some 30 seconds, there was an embarrassing absolute silence, inspite of nearly all sofas having a punter or a girl sitting, everyone on their own. Laura must have been away, because she can't keep her mouth shut, even if no dicks are around, LOL! She surely would have commented, loudly. Anyway, back to beauty, it is in beholder's eyes, and this works especially in these clubs, so. It's up to you...

I saw also new girls, but without Laura, outstanding phisically and being the only one talking to other girls on other sofas and keeping people awake with her loud voice, at the moment I don't know if I'd go there. More than half of my permanence that day was with her, mostly on the sofa.
Let's just say that anyway prices and service are worth a visit, you can expect a lot for your dick, but not for your eyes

[Free Dude]

The problem with the clubs at the moment is that there are too many, which means the girls (and probably guys too) are spread a little thin. It used to be Arabella, Grimberg and Venus; but lately Alina, Verena and Romantica have been added (and Dietzenbach, which seems to have the best line up). You could easily make 3 good line ups (for a RTC) out of the different girls of the 6 clubs. But as I said it is spread a bit thin now, Bonnie is in Venus by the way. Which has some other good girls (Larissa, pretty Anna, Alexandra, sisters Lilly and Maya) , some others not there at the moment (Emma, Renata) or scared of by Barbara. Former Venus girls like Bianca, Michaela, Sarah, Flori are either in Romantica or Alina. I could name a few good girls in the other clubs as well, but it always feels like there is only 2/3 doable girls at the moment.

[EastGoing]

kaisar,

i can't help agreeing each and every word dreams wrote, from all points of view, and i fully share his opinions. maybe a bit optimistic about the quality of girls, but even there, it's true you will always find those 2-3 girls you need for your satisfaction, you don't need to have tens. in these clubs normally you don't have a big embarrassment of choice: a couple of them will outstand, which doesn't necessarily mean they are extremely beautiful, the rest of them will be more or less at the same level for fuckability or unfuckability. however, i don't know if i could have written any better than dreams, simply true and perfect, including the matter of languages. btw, i'm proud to inform the world that i learnt a bit of romanian, so now i have the chance to converse in nearly all european countries, especially western ones, since anywhere we go we are extremely likely to deal with romanian providers.

i entered the club in late afternoon, i had phoned before to make sure i could have some safety nets, just in case i caught desired girls on days off. as posted many times, german forums are filled with pratically daily updates, so i knew more or less who and what to expect. main target of the visit was raissa, beatified in those forums, joined the club only 3 months ago, new for me. second should have been elena, already met last winter when she was new, unfortunately she was off.

i was welcomed by nadja, a bulgarian brunette who has been working there with many breaks since a couple of years, i had never met her before. a pleasant sight, but she quickly abandoned me by the counter. normally girls opening the door, especially if you are new to them, try to hook you up, probably she realized, a bit by tk and a lot by going-to-room-denisa's smiles that i wasn't that new. the lights on the ceiling were off, i got an impression of grotty place that i never had in my previous visits. inside, at first glance i wasn't as happy as usual, few girls on sofas, none of them to my liking, and a couple of punters, a few couples obviously in the rooms. i followed the usual rites, starting from 60 euros entrance with one room included.

gaby on day off, denisa and nicole, both gained kgs (not that they were skinny before, but now they are not that attractive) , were the only ones left of the glorious team i had happily met last year, when there was quite good choice. i already knew about the several losses, i only forgot to ask about stefania, probably in that spot i would have finally accepted her avances, she had always been so kind to me and "courting" me, but i never chose her because a bit chubby, but her reviews, attitude and personality would have surely deserved. the scene was completed by the 3 long time milfs i have always seen, the dominican girl and a few new girls i didn't find interesting.

i didn't have too much time, nor (contrarily to normal) somebody to talk to or who could anyway entertain me, so i decided to proceed with the first room, in that moment only nadja available for my taste. no languages in common, no talks, no preliminaries on the couch since i had noticed she wasn't that kissable, just a nod and there we went. being the first ao session of this year, i knew i wouldn't have lasted that long, so i also took that into account, the good bullet would have been for raissa.

her body has very good shapes, especially her boobs are really proportionate, firm, definitely a good body. face is ok too, but when she jumped off the heels, i realized she's quite short, what a pity! after a few quick sort of kisses on my body, which i reciprocated on her boobs, she proceeded downstairs. nadja hasn't got a tongue, she has a blender, a light-speed mixer, her tongue is a fury on your dick! at home i basically live on blowjobs, i'm used to them, got one even two evenings before the flight, i have been sucked hundreds of times by plenty of girls, but i don't remember many, if any, close to that. i was really sorry to tell her to stop what she was doing. i don't remember if she asked me for gummy, i'd say she didn't. a couple of positions, then, when i was close to the end, i moved to her asshole. she put some cream, i slided inside effortlessly, i even checked i wasn't in the "wrong" hole, lol!

i would have liked to count the words we told each other during our session, which lasted maybe 15 minutes. she wanted to go and i had no reason and no justification to try to hold her. in arabella, i'd say only with elena i had come out of the room before the allowed 30 mins, and anyway i think in her case we were at about 25. the lack of any kind of interaction helped me to establish the (negative) record.

it was quite a mechanical session, no passion, no communication, no hotness, but still i was satisfied and would tell you to try her. her only physical defect is her heigth, her mouth didn't inspire me but it wasn't any bad to look at. for the rest, she does all you ask her without any complaints, she phisically participates, i mean that she moves, she doesn't lay still like a corpse. and she's worth a try just for her blowing skills!

when raissa got free i called her by me. she's romanian. 18, long black hair, tall, slim, some 4-5 kgs more wouldn't hurt, pretty, sociable and plays with enthusiasm.

we spoke a little, then we started kissing and she wanted to go to the room. i realized she didn't want to stay too much with a punter, i had noticed how quick she was with the other customers, both in and out of the room. anyway, we had a great gfe session: dfk, caresses, several positions, participated, intense, not mechanical, even if i could feel her hurry. when i finally unloaded the time was nearly over, but i cuddled (withheld? sequestered?) her and played a little until due time. i must say she didn't make resistance, didn't try to escape nor called for help, lol!

eventually i got to know a couple of the new girls, then i paid the dues, dedicating the owed chat time, actually very short on that day if compaired to "normal", to the survivors of the "old glories". later, i got dressed to leave and the blonde one accompanied me to the door, we warmly greeted each other and she closed the door after i was out of her sight.

final conclusion: currently arabella is not that good anymore, as i had already written in my last posts, it is getting worse and worse. level of beauty has collapsed, service has worsened. the new girls are not as pretty, as friendly and as customer oriented as the ones that were there last summer. i could say that probably it is not easy to replace the various alexandra, carmen, bonnie and all the other ones whose names i don't even remember all.

inspite of my affection for it, arabella is not anymore on top of my list, but still i will visit it. raissa (in the overall) and elena (just for the body) are a good reason, and to me it's always nice to see the survivors of the glorious army of summer-autumn 2013.

[SwingerLover]

Fuck that didn't last long. Says it closed on the homepage.

It says it's temporarily (= vorübergehend) closed.

[Wanking]

I was there a few times when it was Partytreff Viersen a few years ago, pretty shitty set up that time. Website talks about parties but also mentions free entry so I guess you can walk in and have just one shag or whatever.

http://fkkclub-viersen.de/site/angebote/

Fuck that didn't last long. Says it closed on the homepage.

http://fkkclub-viersen.de/

[Dreams]

What are the girls like in these clubs? Are they comparable to the girls working in the bigger FKKs? Clubs like Oase, World, GoldenTime.

Do they speak English or German?

No. The line up is more "normal" girls. May be a few are 7-8, but most others will be 5-6 (and some dogs). However, there will be more fuckable girls that you will be able to honour. If you are after optifucks divas, you better go to upmarket clubs. But the service there wll be far less good and far more expensive since any extra will be charged, while in here all extras provided by the girl, being CIM, COB, AO or anal, or whatever, is included in the 30 Euros.

Some girls will not speak much of eitherr German or English.

These are called AO clubs, because this service is openly available, but you don't have to abide. Girls will always ask "with or without", and you can choose.

For me those clubs are my favorites because: 1) there is always a few girls worth going with; 2) The cost structure is excellent. 110 or 120 for 3 sessions, all included (just check with the girl what she does before going up) 3) The girls are not prima donnas, thay are just much more natural that those in the big Hesse clubs. No sharks there. 4) I like the sofa policy: girls are not allowed to sit and chat in group, which can be intimidating if you want to interrupt and approach one. Here, each girl sits on a 2 seater, and if you are interested, just sit with her. After a few minutes, take your decision, stay or get up. Simple. Cons: hardly any food, no pools.

In summary, if what you want is being surrounded by 50+ beautiful naked ladies, in a luxurious environment, with pool, restaurant and the rest, don't go there.

If what you want is good fucking sessions at a reasonable price witt mostly accomodating and friendly girls (there are exceptions, of course) , those clubs may interest you.