FKK Arabella / Villa Venus / Sauna Grimberg - NRW AO Clubs

[Optimist]

Eastgoing. You say "Sabrina, really she meant something different". I think you are right to settle for

That as an explanation. Some things can't easily be explained.

So, hoping that my next post in this thread will be a field report, which I doubt, possibly from Arabella, possibly about Sabrina (LOL?)"

As you have said, you and Sabrina can't get married (!) so going back to Sabrina can only lead to repeating the same problems.

If you were an optimist like me you would foolishly think everything would get sorted out without problems. That just leads to problems. I have twice had working girls get really upset / depressed that I was married. Despite my advanced age.

Thanks again for posting on this difficult issue

Jimmy Boy - maybe it is wise for EG not to foster the illusion that a girl is not a working girl?. I have often reminded girls very bluntly of the business relationship in order to try to break down any undue closeness. Unfortunately it does not work. I suspect Sabrina has her own internal drivers which lead her to behave as she did - rational reasons are often irrelevant. usually it is more a question of their emotional history.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Is it not possible that she got upset with you because after what you described as a practically transcendent session for both of you, when she may have thought of you as more than just a customer, you made her feel like a working girl (stronger word auto edited out) who was trying to cheat you out of money by not believing her when she told you she wanted to enjoy the moment a little longer and that there would be no extra cost? Would that not explain her harsh words at the reception when you were not asked to pay more, and her subsequent treatment of you?

[EastGoing]

Ok, sorry for not having Hessen Bub's style and writing too much, but this was the greatest sex holiday I ever had, the lowest point being on the arrival day, reported in Duisburg thread, and maximum being reached on Ara day 1, so I have more enthusiasm in writing about, not knowing if I'll ever have other holidays like this one. Writing about also helps me in reliving it.

I told some friends of mine (one has already booked the flight) that no matter if and what I might have caught, I'm happy of what I did, my only regret being not barebacking all of them and some more, since I even wasted a precious day going to Bochum partytreff and took one day of rest.

In spite of writing extensively, some things seem not to be clear.

To sum up, my appreciation is mainly due, in random order, to:

1) the extraordinary service I've been given, whether personal or available to any customer. I'm sure very most of girlfriends and wives don't even get close to that, don't even think of and not even by thinking about they could provide such sessions, whether mechanical, remote-controlled or shared;

2) doing AO, after more than one year using condoms, which I didn't use for several years, obviously gave me a different pleasure. A little thing more was that I could happily release in pussy, without anxiously having to wait to see if my girlfriend had lied about taking pills or not. Once I even refused to CIM Sabrina, who had just orgasmed. Since I CIM all year long, I didn't want to waste the chance to CIP;

3) the total lack of any worry, doubt, pressure, etc. Instead I had total peace of mind that I wouldn't be cheated about time, performances, upselling, etc. I would have been happy with much less than I got. I was happy in VV with girls physically really nothing special, just fuckable (and uncomparable to the ones I got in Ara) , who gave me quite a good service but much lower than what I got in Ara. In VV they just obeyed commands and suggestions, they put little of their own initiative, while in Ara I was even "imposed" things I didn't even ask or want, none of the girls spared any energy or effort to please and / or abuse me, LOL! Once with Sabrina there has been a moment I thought I couldn't even ask for help if I had wanted to: "against my will", she was riding my dick like mad, while holding my hands down, our fingers intertwined, and wildly DFKing me, I was nailed to the bed and thought we'd break it;

4) the comparison with what I'm used to at home and in "normal" trips, Germany included: don't tell me that the above paragraph happens normally to punters anywhere;

5) the prices, especially the value for money: I reckon that the best spent money of my life, also out of mongering, was in Arabella, and what I got was worth several times more than 30 euros for 30-45mins. Which overpaid escort or Artemis stunner would suddenly assault you from behind to kissmark you? How would you agree that,"wait for me to turn my shoulders to you and catch me by surprise?"LOL! Would it count as an extra?

As to PSE or GFE, I didn't go in those clubs hoping or aiming to one of the 2 versions, I just went for an experience, but since I was held back by the mentioned different habits, inexperience in AO and related fears, I would stick to "minimal" basic actions, main difference with a normal session being just fucking uncovered (if). Only Denisa, Sabrina and a bit Bella drove me off my paths taking me wherever they wanted (thanks so much!). Probably most GFE was Carmen, really sweet and really giving me all of her, all she could, we seemed 2 lovebirds on fire; with Bianca we made a plain porno, I was actor and director of a 20+ years ago bad movie, just blowjob and sex in different positions (thoroughly enjoyed anyway).

As to Sabrina, maybe I exaggerated some expressions or not explained well: I didn't, don't nor I'm going to love her, but I wouldn't have been sorry to meet her again, anywhere, anytime, anyhow. Our second session pleased my body and also my soul (which means I wasn't just having sex, no matter how good), and I'd say she was feeling the same or close to that. I said I was starting having some clues of useless feelings: fuming for her not coming to me and me not feeling in the mood to go with another girl. Obviously I don't have those reactions normally, I didn't mind Gaby not showing interest in me in VV, I didn't resession with worthy Bella, I didn't care of what other girls were doing, so something was clearly going wrong. Further contact would have led to arguments, explainations, reproaches and other unnecessary stuff between a prostitute and a customer, what would have been the point? If I want to get back to her I can do it, but what for? I don't know if she was truly developing feelings for me, or just acting, or trying to catch a fish in the net (which is always my main suspicion when receiving exaggerated good treatment) , but so far better like this. When I left on day 1 I didn't have any particular feeling towards Sabrina, apart from gratitude for contributing to give me the time of my life, the top day of my sexual life. I planned to go back for her and Denise, just the 2 of them. Let's say that if Denise had been at work that day, things would have very likely been different: instead of concentrating on Sabrina, planning more sessions with her and being bewitched by her, I would have had to mind a huge distraction (and destruction) of a nearly-at-level target. As I said Denise is not as good physically, but more than fair anyway, she's really great, playfully wild, excellent performer by all points of view, less rough, less violent, but still she managed to put me upside down, sweetly but mercilessly devastating me with her bright smile on all the time (when her mouth was not engaged on my flesh). When dealing with her I felt like playing (and always "losing") , with the other one more like fighting, apart from final moments, but there wasn't a massive difference, like towards the rest of the (good) girls. If I rate 10 and 11 (out of 10) my sessions with Sabrina, Denise can get minimum 9, I guess a second session could only raise the rating, as did for Sabrina.

But, to be honest, I really don't think my reaction would have been the same if Denise had behaved like Sabrina, really she meant something different.

So, hoping that my next post in this thread will be a field report, which I doubt, possibly from Arabella, possibly about Sabrina (LOL?) , I thank you all for bearing the bullshit I filled this thread with and look forward to reading your reports.

Cheers.

EG

[Myrrh]

EastGoing,

I like others are grateful for your reports and the time and effort that you clearly put into writing them.

I must admit though to finding them a little heavy going and just a little bit perturbing.

I have been to Arabella before however for me the beauty of the place was definitely the fact that I could achieve the porn star experience (PSE) and NOT the girl friend experience (GFE).

The disposable, zipless, cum dumpster, spunk bucket type of experience. Just like having the most glorious Sunday dinner and ice cream sundae of your life as a child and not worrying about the fact that your mum will be scrubbing the pans whilst you doze off with your thumb in your mouth, deep in the land of nod.

It's like you put the most hard core DVD in the slot and then for half an hour you are fooled into thinking that you can take any attractive young woman that you see in front of you and use them to do more or less anything that you want them to do in that half hour time slot before the video credits come up. That is more pornstar than girl friend.

If I thought (or more accurately was naively hoodwinked into thinking) that they genuinely cared about me then I would run a mile. I don't want to be pondering about what they genuinely thought about me, their mood swings, possible blue periods, possible 'true' feelings or anything else whilst I am on that plane home.

With the number of sausages that these girls turn per week they couldn't possibly have any genuine feelings for anyone and I am just grateful that these mattress actresses are so good at their jobs that they manage to fool me into thinking that they do, at least for the half hour that I am with them.

After that it is a case of "back to reality, here comes gravity" as Eminem would say.

But you found love there, or of sorts? Reminds me of the words from another song (this time by Rihanna) "I found love in a hopeless place?"

[Tjohoo]

Tjohoo,

As you said, we are (more than) twice as much older than them, which would put us in a bad light even if they were normal girls. The ones we are talking about are prostitutes,"mine" even AO, a definition that disappointed her when reading that on the forum I showed her, before she had just been glad to read reports of people praising her. So, what would you do with them? What would you expect? Just enjoy and (try to) forget them!

Thank you for taking your time to give me / us such I extensive honest answer.

Well first I don't care if they are prostitutes or not. When it comes to this sort of matters (feelings) we are all equal.

Second. I would (and have) ended up exactely as you did. Because they are "just" prostitutes and we are "just" humans. That said, we are just the same.

T

[EastGoing]

Optimist,

Thanks for at least bothering to answer my questions or trying to. Larissa in VV, if I'm not mistaken, told me they take tests every 2 weeks. Since that doesn't make a big difference from a practical point of view, and it wasn't a topic I wanted to discuss having already decided to go AO, I didn't bother to ask further details. Maybe it's the House paying, maybe just for big diseases tests. I agree 250 is a high price. Hopefully someone will answer soon or later.

As to me being wise, well, I'm just experienced. I already heavily fell in the trap twice, which means I'm actually stupid, since I repeat mistakes or risk to repeat them. When I find unfuckable girls, I'm often glad because I know there will be zero risk for me to develope any feeling apart from friendship or just sympathy. Where I live my mongering is based on BBBJs in car provided by not very attractive females, really almost never I happen to fuck, being it not worth due to circumstances, and since I travel often that's not a problem, on the contrary a relaxing BBBJ gives me many more chances to enjoy and release than fucking covered an expensive stunner. Anyway, too often I have to deal with the problems you mentioned of jealousy, spites, etc. I don't trust anyone anymore, I'm given best service by paying less, always being allowed CIM and not clockwatching, but is it because I'm that beautiful? I'm not! Am I wealthy? Obviously not! Am I nice? Maybe. Could I be a possible way out to a better world, being 42, alone and nice, with a probable weak heart wrapped into banknotes for protection (since I always want to make it clear it's just "business")? Much more likely!
When I travel obviously I "risk more" because I come across fuckable, or hopefully much more than fuckable, girls, but there's no time, no occasion, and normally not second chance, so I'm safe.

Tjohoo,

Maybe you are right, but anyway Sabrina and I wouldn't have to get married, better to put an end to it, possibly badly, so that less regrets come out in case of real (pointless) feelings. Perhaps she misunderstood I didn't want her anymore? She got offended by my fear to be asked 120 euros instead of 30 by thekkenfrau, meaning I gave more importance to 90 euros than to her companionship? Or she just thought I wanted to go with her 3 hours after our first session? Or she spotted regulars and / or big-paying men? They all sound weak excuses, she misbehaved also from a professional point of view, disappointing a customer who had openly declared and vowed even to the walls that he was back for her and only for her, inspite (and nearly unrespectful) of the many fuckable available girls around! Girls who might appreciate going with me, not only for money but also for fun, many of them, Bella for instance, were there on my first visit, as I said I had become very popular, as a toyboy, LOL! Girls who even heartily, spontaneously, strongly and loudly attacked her, a compatriot, a colleague, probably a friend. Carmen couldn't believe I wanted to go with her, we had been chatting quite a while in my long "spare" time and she had seen me fuming. When I halted her she was astonished and wouldn't move, I literally had to grab her and take her away. In the room she seemed honored, she knew she wasn't supposed to be there with me (obviously not because I'm that great model) , but she didn't ask why I didn't take Sabrina. I had previously declared I wouldn't session anymore with her, but maybe nobody believed me, since I wasn't picking any other girl, anyway Carmen had being witnessing too, so maybe she was also disturbed by the fact of "stealing" (actually I kidnapped her) a customer or possibly concurring in breaking a connection (...).

Anyway, Sabrina gave me 2 extraordinary unforgettable sessions, the first one being less affected by useless feelings like respect, personal involvement, passion, etc, it was just pure violence and fun, only towards the end she melted a bit. The second one was more shared and more participated not only physically, let's call it a "higher level", inspite of her natural wildness. But maybe one of you reading my posts goes there tomorrow and she does the same to him, meaning that it's just the service that she provides to customers and that some weak gullible childish stupid man going there risks to mistake for something more than it is meant to be. Like the man Optimist reported about did. Like the man who is posting all this bullshit (and I apologize for this, I promise to quit Sabrina's topic) could have risked to do if having further sessions with her.
As you said, we are (more than) twice as much older than them, which would put us in a bad light even if they were normal girls. The ones we are talking about are prostitutes,"mine" even AO, a definition that disappointed her when reading that on the forum I showed her, before she had just been glad to read reports of people praising her. So, what would you do with them? What would you expect? Just enjoy and (try to) forget them!

BTW, my previous report should have ended like this:

"In the end of August I'll be by Giessen, some 200km away, so far.
That's all (so far?)"

P. S. : Got the puns? LOL?

[Tjohoo]

Thank you East Going for your honest reports. Great to read.

But are you not a little bit to harsh in your judgement over Sabrina. She is (if I got it right) 19 years old. An age where people act like childs in one moment and acts like an adult the next. I work with people of that age group every day. And it often strikes me that they are young people in grown up bodies. They live in an other world were they are the center of it, and there main interests are clothes, boys and Facebook!

Two weeks ago I visited a club three days in a row. Day one and two I went to a room with the same lady and had a great time. We also chatted a lot during the rest of the days. On my third day I did not see her during the first hour, and when I spotted her she did not look at me or say hello to me. So I acted the same! After a while I had to pass her on my way out to the terrace, so I put on a smile and said hello. She just said a silent hello. I asked her if everything was OK and why she didn't say hello or come up to me earlier. Then she looked at me with a sort of puzzeled relief, and said that she had tried to say hello to me two times just as I enterd the club, and that I had not answerd her or looked at her, and that she thougt I was mad on her for some reason. At that moment I felt extremely stupid. Here I was, a man double her age, reacting like a child and acting wounded because of a misunderstandning with a women just over 20.

It's not my intention to sound to hard. But reading your story I can very well understand how a 19 years old can act like that. Even if that don't meen that it's OK for them to do so.

But I can also very well understand how you felt.

T

[Optimist]

East Going. Sorry I don't know the answer to your questions. Certainly some of the "holidays" girls take are to get rid of infections, and sometimes they come back and don't do AO anymore. But if this applies to Arabella etc I don't know. In the big clubs around Frankfurt years ago the girls were required to be tested but no longer, since this would imply that they are employed not self-employed.

The few girls I have known well (not in AO clubs) have all got themselves regularly tested. It costs up to 250 euros for a complete private screening so I guess that girls in the cheaper clubs don't pay this.

So all in all I don't know

[Optimist]

East Going. Excellent report about Sabrina. Thank you. You certainly took the right decision. It was nice for me to know that other mongers have had the same experience of girls beginning to play emotional games and in the end (unless the mongers are wise like you) being captured by girls. I have had girls make scenes, claiming jealousy, when I went with other girls but then punishing me by making me wait for a session and so on

Your experience goes nicely with the experience of another monger who I posted about under the GoldenTime thread and linked to RoDs which (if I can steal a phrase from you) could now become " a thread of brokenhearted gullible " men

[EastGoing]

when i was to leave on day 1, after greeting whomever and whatever, what attracted more my attention, which was roughly equal to the one of a knocked out boxer, was denise's and her neighbours' smiles. i'm sure girls must have laughed a lot while chitchatting among them about me. who knows what she said to sabrina while i went to shower before sessioning with her, probably she convinced her that she would have had fun, since she had sounded so reluctant. denise was one of the girls who halted sabrina to tell her that i wanted to go with her, rejecting her objections about me having already been with 2.

back to me leaving, thekkenfrau had called sabrina, who was hanging around by there, i don't know if on her own or awaiting me, to accompany me out. i thought we had already kissed goodbye when finishing our session. normally i don't go back to girls i've already been with, basically because i like to change, but also to avoid spoiling memories if session was good. while licking my wounds, i was strongly considering another visit in arabella, not sure yet, but when she embraced and kissed me by the exit, all doubts were swept away by the same storms that had invested me that day. i'm sure she read in my eyes she would see me again, in spite of me declaring nothing about that.

on day 2, having become obvious even to myself, not only to my dick, that i was basically going back for denise and sabrina, let's say for the "revenge", and not to taste the other fuckable girls, i wanted to make sure they were at work. i rang arabella, the thekkenfrau on duty didn't speak english but i understood with great sorrow that only sabrina was there. i tried to console myself by thinking that anyway she was the best of the 2, and maybe i could focus only on her, against all my principles, especially mongering ones, who state not to stick to one girl as a main rule. when i arrived she was walking by the entrance, destiny is destiny, she warmly welcomed me, i told her "i came back for you, honey", she knew it, she smiled "i know", she told me to go and shower, she'd wait for me.

in the room she half-ironically asked me if the person phoning to ask about denise and sabrina was me. she's so smart, and she always inexplicably knows all i do, i love that. i forgot to mention that she is 19 years-old, a real monster, especially considering her age, sabrina is 30, more than 10 years experienced. i never had a real 3some (once in car i got blown by 2, obviously romanians, quite uncomfortable) , should i ever have it i can't imagine better candidates: among other advantages, i wouldn't have to worry about directing or taking initiatives, only problem would be my integrity and safety, luckily there weren't "toys" in the rooms (apart from me).

during the "warming up", she declared to me that today her main and first goal would be to kissmark me allover, i don't know if that was due to the fact that i had informed her i'd leave the following morning, anyway quite a good start for a declaration of war. i told her not to or to just be happy with a small one, maybe because i'm a bit childish, i've always liked having them for showing off to wankers and other girls, lol! she paused the assault for laughing, but i wasn't anymore an easy sparring partner: at lightning speed i overturned our bodies and i planted my fingers by her holes and my teeth on her neck. funnily, she was more worried for the pussy than for the rest, we couldn't help laughing when i made her notice that she wouldn't mind tens of bare cocks but she was afraid of a finger. anyway we got along fantastically to say the least, it was great to feel her getting wetter and wetter until the final reciprocal "showers", again nearly contemporaneous, again i "lost the race" for a few seconds. again, she didn't want to unplug and wanted to lay with me for further "rubbings" and cuddles. while chatting, i had informed her i found out that day that she was mentioned in forums (true, but not this one) , i showed her on her mobile, at first she was glad but got disappointed when reading about the definition of ao lady. to "change" topic, i told her it was time to go, about 45 mins, i already posted about other thekkenfrau and price discussion about timing. she got upset that i wanted to dump her in spite or her reassurances i would pay only 30mins, also being first session it was anyway included in entrance fee. i told her not to worry, we would have second and maybe, if "necessary" (lol!) , third session, but she kept complaining for me being unrespectful of her still willing to lay in bed with me, even out of the room. she was more disappointed than i thought, we split not in great mood, also i wasn't asked more money and she heavily harshly commented, all eyes on us.

she got busy soon, i thought once free she'd come to me. i had informed the other girls, by whom i had become quite popular, when receiving "avances", that i was awaiting sabrina, so that they wouldn't waste time courting me. i noticed 4-5 other "new" girls. 2-3 quite worth. the club wasn't busy, so i got involved in conversations anyway. shortening, when sabrina finished didn't come to me, i was even sitting by her couch, she totally ignored me and went to other men, once she sat nearly 1 hour o'clock on the sofa with a man, both of them laughing to my (and even neighbouring girls'!) loud falsely-amused invitations to speed up the process. the guy, a mid40 years old weighing some 140 kg, was truly enjoying his time with the star sitting on him, but i wonder if he understood the situation, if he did and took it long anyway, he was a real bas.... i wonder if he paid for that time, if not why thekkenfrau didn't intervene? they were in front of the counter! the other girls didn't go farther than offering me their services, i couldn't understand what else they were saying among themselves, but i guess there were comments on what was going on. i couldn't make a melodrama, she was not my girlfriend, she's a prostitute in a (ao!) brothel where i was a simple client, she could be my daughter (even if that same day i was quoted 32 and by one 26, i hope for her she was joking, because she sounded serious while repeating it 3 times) , etc. what was annoying me more was the fact of possibly looking like a jealous exboyfriend, and actually i realized feeling clues of the presence of bloody stupid unwanted feelings of jealousy, affection, etc, all bullshit i was sure, and i had promised myself, i wouldn't feel anymore. maximum i could do would have been, as a customer and not as a boyfriend or ex, to complain to thekkenfrau for excessive couch time, but i would have been more ridiculous than i am by writing these facts in the forum. i was not in the mood to go with another girl, even if that was the obvious and more natural thing, repeatedly suggested by spectators, i'd say really even out of their own possible interest. i publicly blame myself for being so childish and stupid in certain things, but i didn't like that game, i wasn't playing a role, i was really fuming. after a couple of hours, meeting me while walking around she tried to establish a contact for some 3 times, first by greeting then by calling me, but i wouldn't mind her. the other girls, mostly doing nothing, followed the show, but they were all by my side, lol! i had already declared long before that i wouldn't go with sabrina anymore, when the girls were saying things like "there she is, go go".
i just was waiting for her to come to me, i knew she would, it was a likely part of the bloody game. i was sitting on a sofa, she came to me with a smile, i just had the time to tell her that i was waiting for a girl who was busy. the spectators, heard that, intervened even from the neighbouring hall, all telling her off in romanian, a couple of them really badly, again i'm surprised thekkenfrau said nothing, but maybe she was away in that moment, it was really a riot. imagine the scene: small club and nearly without customers around in that moment, with 5-6 girls all together accusing one standing motionless in the middle, i even understood clearly "he's been waiting for you for 3 hours" in romanian. seconds later carmen (i think it was her name, sorry, she wasn't at work on day 1) walked in this mess, wondering what was going on, i stopped her, a moment of silence, she was surprised i wanted her, she couldn't believe me (sabrina was standing in front of me, beside her!) , i grabbed her and went for it leaving behind us the restarted trial to sabrina.

the session was enjoyable, peaceful and tender, what we would normally define a gfe. if you photoshop her belly a bit, but even if you don't, carmen is a pretty possibly 30 years old girl with a very pretty face and nice smile, oddly in the room i realized that her upper jaw has teeth only in the "smile area", good for her they are in the important place, also, what you don't see you don't miss. she really seemed happy, nearly grateful, thrilled, excited, for being chosen. she has a lovely character, i had a good part of the afternoon to appreciate it, she did all she could to please me and she certainly succedeed, she even made me forget about the girl that should have been in her place in that moment. had moments of fun while sucking her lovely tender boobs, she said many punters like them, i also liked her tickled reactions. i chosed her because she seemed the best one in the overall, not just because she walked by in that moment (she came in the perfect moment, not even if agreed it could happen so perfect) or to make a spite to sabrina, i was really waiting for her, i say this for justice towards her, i'd willingly go again with her, she wasn't an expedient or a stopgap, but obviously she couldn't be the first choice with my 2 favourites available.

fully satisfied i went for showering and got changed, upstairs everything was quiet, i didn't see sabrina. i paid, greeted, thanked and headed to the exit. she walked by there looking at me like a beaten dog, i ironically said "bye honey" without stopping and left, if i'm not mistaken this time i wasn't accompanied, but couldn't tell for sure, obviously all my senses and thoughts were on her.

i'm glad i didn't resession with her, i considered going with her after carmen, not minding any other girl inspite of having worth ones around, but that could only lead to some trouble, i don't want and don't need to develope any kind of connection or liaison to any girl anymore, i've had my share and decided to be mongering for the rest of my life, until i have the physical and economical possibilities at least. i had reasoned on the risk of multisessioning with her, since there was such a chemistry and entente between us (obviously i can't post each and every thing we did or speak about) , which is another reason why i put in my principles not to go twice with the same girl.

in the end of august i'll be by giessen, some 200km away.

that's all (so far?)

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Since the AO Club thread is closed, there is no Club Angelique thread, and this thread is no longer solely about VV, Arabella, and SG as there are now Club Angelique reports in this thread, perhaps Admin can change the thread title so that new readers who are interested in Club Angelique will know that there are reports on the club here.

[EastGoing]

i'm going to share some random observations, excuse me for withholding some infos and details, but i'm really posting much more than i thought i would, also, the fact of delayed posting implies forgetting things, anyway i'm giving you many infos about this clubs that may be of interest to everybody, especially regarding the "atmospheres", which are more important than the mere numbers and "gossip", names, etc, probably it won't make a big difference or be of help to you to know in how many positions sabrina (just to take a random one) and i coupled. just bear in mind that those are my impressions and what happened to me, it may not be the same for everyone. as i just pmed back to a fellow appreciating my reports, it's also a matter of luck, habits, likings, chemistry, etc.

can't speak for the fkk-girls, but judging from the ao-girls in krefeld i'm under the impression that they don't "apprechiate" the use of condoms for health reasons, but because they are too lazy to go wash after each fuck.

this masterpiece of poetry by swingerlover has been wandering in my head since reading jimmyboy's comment about larissa and another girl not going to shower after sessions, since i found it, i resume it for a laughter.

if i'm not mistaken, all girls asked me if i wanted to use a condom or not, even if i felt different scales of interest towards my answer, i mean that one was already sticking it inside, being that an obvious part of a [CodeWord123], even if in an uncommon reversed version, and one had jumped on top of me with clear intentions and probably just remembered by chance to ask. when i democratically asked back if they wanted to use it, a good half said they preferred not to, even with enthusiasm, one had a bright light in her eyes while steadily saying "i obviously prefer without", the others said it was the same for them, and didn't have any special reaction after my decision, seemed like ordering a beer rather than a coke to the waitress.

if i'm not mistaken, nearly all the girls i sessioned with had no hurry at all to stand up and leave, they wanted (i underline wanted, not just agreed or accepted a request from me, it was their genuine intention) to stay a little bit more after i released, some of them with the dick (and fluids) still inside, some still playing with it "after", it was always and only me the one who wanted to rush to bathroom (in ao sessions) , and quite a few times i found (successful) opposition to my intent, with even complaints for wanting to drop them as soon as unloaded. i consider this a "plus", a sign of appreciation and liking towards me, again, i don't know, but honestly i don't believe they behave like that with everyone. bianca, a real professional, probably the only one i met (i think she could easily shoot as a porn actress, even if she doesn't have the body) , parted quite quickly: mission accomplished, a few post-action-pleasantries and bye; in angelique only evelyn wasn't in a hurry, but i wouldn't even include (and in some things i didn't) that club in my considerations, it was the only one of the 3 places where i could find defects, i think that if they didn't offer ao they wouldn't go that far. in vv and ara i wasn't refused anything, i was offered (given?"imposed"?) everything, happily and heartily, i never felt any pression (apart the blessed "aggressions" in ara) , especially about clockwatching. actually, i reckon i never stayed less than the paid 30mins even if popping earlier (i'm used that when i pop it's over) , but most times i stayed longer than that, on my second battle with sabrina i was quite sure that thekkenfrau, a different one not english speaking, would charge me more, because before entering the room i had heard a discussion with another customer about the fact that they would ask 120 euros for one hour with a girl. i had asked sabrina to translate that because i wanted to sequester my honey, even for longer, but obviously it was better to make 2 30mins sessions for 60 euros (gosh. 1 euro / min, a phone call from home to my german mobile number would cost more). bella was the "quickest" to stand up for leaving in ara, but still took 3-4 mins o'clock. somehow i feel sorry for making her look like in a secondary position, in another context i'd vow meeting her like a stroke of luck, i would sign instantly to find beforehand a girl like her in most places i visit. if i had met her in vv i'd have been enthusiastic and i'd have magnified her and the club, remember that i declared being quite happy there for going with girls she would overwhelm from all points of view. but meeting her (a handsome and somehow classy girl, with quite good skills in bed but more moderated and more "in control" than my 2 favourites when performing) , between denisa and sabrina, 2 rough barbarians who, one in a light-hearted way, like playing a game, one like a tireless warrior, really smashed and brutalized me,"unfortunately" makes her look nothing special, but she's worth a visit.

i know that this will be hard to understand by many, but i prefer the laid back atmosphere, full included service, no upsell, no extras etc. to the constant bickering and poor service with optifucks in bigger hesse clubs. to each his own, of course.

thanks for appreciating my reports, i fully agree with the above, actually it should be harder to understand the contrary

[Dreams]

Funny how things can change in a few months.

Last March I went first to Arabella full of expectations, and was quite disappointed by the line up. Then went to VVenus and was ecstatic there. Seems that things have changed again, and that Arabella is now again back on top.

Anyway, I always rent a car when travelling there, so can shift from one to another if required.

Tough life.

[EastGoing]

Got there mid afternoon. 3 bus stops from Wattenscheid Hbf plus a few minutes walk, or 20 mins walking at normal pace, but here it's impossible to get lost even for me, LOL! When I entered I smelt by the stairs going to lockers and showers an unpleasant smell of wet moquette, but got instantly over it. Thekkenfrau was very nice, over mid 40, tall, blonde, blue-eyed, english speaking, smiling and cheerful, must have been great in her time. She took care of me very nicely all the time I was there with each and everything I might ask (or even not, if she saw I was in doubt about something or looking for, she'd promptly intervene) , I was expecting her to follow me in the room to make sure I worked out what I was supposed to be there for. Actually many girls were looking at me with an amused smile when I entered and during my stay. Was it so blatantly clear I was a newbie not only in there, where they obviously had never seem me before, but in an AO club, in any club, in Germany, with a girl? Was I the youngest and / or most beautiful (yes)? Did I look like a tender virgin to play with, have fun and initiate to sex pleasures? Would they enjoy their time with a toy boy?

After the introduction and the payment of 60euros-one-shot-included, I showered, took a walk around and noticed, to my great surprise, that nearly all girls, maybe even all, were reasonably fuckable. With some being "remarkable". Not all of them were portraited, because some were new.

BTW, IF I DON'T GET ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS ABOUT "HOLIDAYS AND TURNOVERS" AND IF A GIRL CAN REFUSE A CUSTOMER, I DON'T POST ANYMORE! :P.

A CHILDISH SPOILT BRAT.

I spotted Sabrina sitting proud in the corner like a queen on the throne, she seemed easily the one with the best body, but I want to see all the "goods", in front and behind, because I prefer to choose knowingly and not find surprises, I didn't feel like asking her to stand and turn, also in that moment she wasn't smiling, so I continued my tour. I noticed Moldovan Gaby, somebody not too long ago posted a pic of her with red hair in some thread, not this one, saying she would do AO, I was sure she was supposed to be somewhere else. Now she's blonde, the haircut is the same, when I had seen that photo I hoped I would come across here if I went to that (which one?) club, but having her in front of me gave me a different sensation. She's not bad physically, but didn't attract me, nor did her general attitude. Actually, if she had been in VV I would have taken her for sure, but the competitors in Arabella were many, younger and more attractive by all points of view.

Shortening, I got in touch with Denisa, new in there, black hair with blonde stripes, more than fair body, brightest, most sincere-looking and most captivating smile of the trip. We had a nice brief conversation about our past "careers" and "fell in love". There were other men around, but the most of eyes were on me, I didn't know if I had to be proud or disappointed with that, but it was embarrassing. She took me by hand going to the room, with that great smile printed on her face, I'm not used to see such an "enthusiasm", thekkenfrau gave us a blessing, she seemed emotionated like a mum to a marriage.

A few little premises: like most of us, I'm used to wooden unwillingly unenthusiastic corpses; I don't like FK because I don't fancy snowball leftovers; in this trip I had my first AO experiences, which I'm even shy reporting and don't even specify clearly; I don't DATY because (take a seat and hold tight!) I'm afraid of catching diseases (explaination: since it's me paying for my own pleasure, the mucosa involved must be mine and risks and odds must be by my side).

This said, the action was according to bookmakers' expectations towards the sacrificial victim: she played me like a muppet, SHE had a lot of fun assaulting a nearly defenseless and helpless shy beginner pupil, she did all she wanted with me, kissing, blowing, fucking, from all sides and positions, a massacre. When I unloaded she kept hugging, caressing and kissing me, not forgetting a few bites, WTF, was I dreaming? When she had enough she set me free, I'm reasonably convinced we stayed longer than 30 mins. I couldn't help promising her that, if she gave me permission, I would post about her on internet (otherwise I wouldn't? LOL!) , she was very glad to hear that. I headed to the showers staggering and fearing that the water might make me wake up.

Not to write a book, I go straight to second executioner: Bella. Her approach and execution was colder, slower, more professional, but it was very difficult to get to the peaks of Denisa, who can get that far? Bella is a beautiful girl, tall, pretty face, black hair. Great session, getting better and better with time going by because she was letting herself go enjoying what we were doing. While becoming more "familiar" with me, she also took her slice of fun by taking advantage of the unexperienced alien who happened to land there that day. She didn't abuse too much of what was left by Denisa, and when we finished we split but kept joking and laughing also in the hall, something I wouldn't imagine in Angelique.

Sabrina had been quite busy, I had seen her walking around and I was wondering how such a body could be had for such little money, no matter what treatment she could give. Other girls told her in front of me I would have liked to go with her, and she turned out "but he has already been with 2!", sounding like she really didn't want me. I felt not at ease and told her that if she didn't want me I wouldn't insist, she said "no, it's ok" sounding like sorry and hardly bearing the task. I went to shower first, eventually she'll tell me that in the meantime she asked infos about me, LOL, how I am, how I do, etc. A few lines above I asked a question, now I have the answer: Sabrina, a fierce, ferocious wild savage beast, a real tiger with fangs and claws. Luckily she didn't want to come with me, what if she had come with me willingly? (I'll find out on my second visit...). Or maybe she feared she'd give me the "coup de grace", therefore it was better for me to avoid her? After a difficult beginning with her ravening, devouring and tearing me to pieces, at a certain point of the fight I found her weak point: being fucked from behind. During the several contortions it was always her leading the game, now I was in control. She said she wanted to change position, I asked "why, because you can't bite me like this?","no, because I'll end up coming and I don't want to". WTF, she managed to escape and rejump on me, but in the end I managed to tame her, repositionate her and we both happily released. Not too many words to describe this session, she didn't even want to "unplug" and tried to be sweet and gentle, a little kitten. It took a good while before we go out of the room, this time I watched the clock. 45mins abundant.

A little while after, I picked up my pieces, greeted warmly and gratefully even the sofas and the tiles, and put an end to the greatest mongering (and non) day of my career and sexual life.

[Dreams]

I disovered VV last March, and had a really good time there, to the point that this is now my favorite FKK in the whole of Germany.

I know that this will be hard to understand by many, but I prefer the laid back atmosphere, full included service, no upsell, no extras etc. To the constant bickering and poor service with optifucks in bigger Hesse clubs. To each his own, of course.

Trying to find excuses to go back, but in the meantime, keep the reports coming!