FKK Arabella / Villa Venus / Sauna Grimberg - NRW AO Clubs

[Breadman]

I add some pictures of the general atmosphere in the club.

Be careful posting photo's of other hobbiests, your photo's are blurred enough so the guy in your one photo shouldn't be recognized.

[Dark Vader]

Can someone please tell me if non German speaking men are welcome in these establishments. And if so, will be provided the same services? I am a Caucasian guy and speak zero words of German, I've been to the various Fkk's in Frankfurt with no notable issues.

As these clubs are sort of 'off the grid', I wonder if that was done on purpose to leave guys like me out. I notice that their websites are in German only whereas Frankfurt's FKK's have English translation.

I sure don't want to drive all the way there and get rejected or worse have some German guys staring at me in the clubs.

'Dank' for any useful info.

Relax no entry problems so you'll be just fine but if you're based in Frankfurt why not save yourself some time and visit FKK Dietzenbach instead? It's part of the same group and some girls work at both Villa Venus and Dietzenbach.

[Tiradentes]

Can someone please tell me if non German speaking men are welcome in these establishments?. And if so, will be provided the same services? I am a Caucasian guy and speak zero words of German, I've been to the various Fkk's in Frankfurt with no notable issues.

As these clubs are sort of 'off the grid', I wonder if that was done on purpose to leave guys like me out. I notice that their websites are in German only whereas Frankfurt's FKK's have English translation.

I sure don't want to drive all the way there and get rejected or worse have some German guys staring at me in the clubs.

'Dank' for any useful info.

[SwingerLover]

P6 is not common abbreviation. What it stands for? Thanks.

I guess that would be PaySex.

[Jymondor]

Or stay away from P6.HB

P6 is not common abbreviation. What it stands for? Thanks.

[Dreams]

Deleting the thread will not change reality. If you don't want to fuck BB just don't visit AO clubs and use a condom in the other clubs. Trying to convince BB lovers to use a condom isn't going to work. There's plenty on non BB locations in Germany, just visit these. Keep in mind that BB happens in all the clubs, girls doing it you would never guess they do. If you use a condom you are OK. You might catch a lttle sperm when doing DFK with a girl who did CIM before or if you DATY a girl who had CIP before. Bad luck. Disgusting? Don't do DFK or DATY. Or stay away from P6.

HB

Thanks, HB. We sometimes need short but clear statement.

[SwingerLover]

Well, I've just had enough of those insulting and derogatory comments here. Do you people even know that there is something like forum rules on ISG?

I just reported all 3 of you to Jackson for your violations and asked that the author of "the dimwits who partake in this type of disgusting unsafe behaviour can crawl around in the dark away from normal type regular guy mongers" be kicked off the forum for his disgusting remark!

The one who seconded this insult should be downgraded to regular member again, so that his reports would be monitored again for the next six months. Same goes for the one that publicly called dreams an "idiot" on open forum, which would make him subject to criminal prosucution in Germany, if that violation was reported to the police! And then he also writes that he'd "take it a step further and remove all promotion of unsafe sex practices from the board", which is also a gross violation of the forums rules. We'll see how Jackson will handle my complaints.

What's the matter with you people? What business do you have to tell others how to live their sexlifes? If you don't like the AO-threads, then don't read them. But leave the members who like them in peace! Just as a reminder, here's a link to the forum's posting guidelines, where it explicitly says "NO Safe Sex Complaints": http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...tingguidelines

The line about "that this type of venue should be in discussed in some sorta dark and dingey sub-directory away from chat about the big time FKK and Sauna Clubs." makes me wonder about FKKs in general. I've never been to one, so I can't tell about the attitude of the guys who visit those places, except those guys who write here and the nice ones I personally met at other, allegedly "disgusting" places. But from what little I've read on the FKK-Clubs forum until now, most of it in this thread here, I think I will keep on avoiding the FKKs. Just in case those remarks here are any reflection on the attitude being displayed by maybe other guys at those clubs too.

I have never read anything similar in the regular Germany forum, nor in the Germany Partytreff Clubs forum, like I read in this thread here today. Do large clubs cause some kind of delusions of grandeur?

I'd rather party at those "small, disgusting little clubs" from the Partytreff Clubs forum where almost everybody is friendly and treats others with appropriate respect and kindness. And where no people appear who write such derogatory comments and insults in the respective threads of a forum.

And by the way: The remark "the AO gang there has turned that sub into a wasteland. Completely useless." is also pretty useless, since there are only 13 out of 53 user threads in the Germany Partytreff Clubs forum that deal with AO and 4 of those are practically dead.

[Hessen Bub]

Personally I think this thread should be deleted or at the very least moved to the Germany Partytreff Forum. The Bottom Feeders over in that section would be over the moon about these lousy clubs.

Deleting the thread will not change reality. If you don't want to fuck BB just don't visit AO clubs and use a condom in the other clubs. Trying to convince BB lovers to use a condom isn't going to work. There's plenty on non BB locations in Germany, just visit these. Keep in mind that BB happens in all the clubs, girls doing it you would never guess they do. If you use a condom you are OK. You might catch a lttle sperm when doing DFK with a girl who did CIM before or if you DATY a girl who had CIP before. Bad luck. Disgusting? Don't do DFK or DATY. Or stay away from P6.

HB

[Myrrh]

Personally I think this thread should be deleted or at the very least moved to the Germany Partytreff Forum. The Bottom Feeders over in that section would be over the moon about these lousy clubs.

I am struggling to see the logic behind the objection to a club that is called FKK Arabella being in the 'Germany-FKK Clubs' section of this forum [head scratching].

The other clubs in this thread, Villa Venus and Sauna Grimberg, operate a similar business model of paying per session (FKK model) rather than flat rate (partytreff model) and so by that logic they belong in the FKK section as well.

In any case why is it assumed that bareback sex is a partytreff issue alone? It is common knowledge that bareback sex happens in most or even all of the FKK clubs dependent on the particular girl. The clubs in these threads are perhaps more honest in acknowledging a practice that regularly goes on in FKK clubs. This way you will know which clubs and girls definitely do it rather than having to find out through trial and error and suffering the awkwardness or embarrassment of asking a girl for a service which she finds distasteful or does not provide.

[Woofiee]

Personally I think this thread should be deleted or at the very least moved to the Germany Partytreff Forum. The Bottom Feeders over in that section would be over the moon about these lousy clubs.

Agreed, although I'd take it a step further and remove all promotion of unsafe sex practices from the board. The Partytreff section *used* to have more information and would be worth going through. Some clubs, like the Pauschalclub. De line. Are quite high-quality and more like a flat-rate FKK, so I participate there as I can. Otherwise; the AO gang there has turned that sub into a wasteland. Completely useless.

And now they're here.

[Myrrh]

You fuck her with or without protection, thats your choice. They all kiss with tongue, they all suck an they all go bare if you want. On top of that their services are clearly mentioned with their pictures on the front desk.

She took my dick, shove it in her thight pussy and started riding me. In public. I had seen more of these public sessions in the lounge but it was actually my first one. After a while I decided to move on to a room.

I add some pictures of the general atmosphere in the club.

Just to clarify a few things.

They do not all fuck without protection. Some, including all of the Dominican Republic girls, state on the website that they do not do AO.

Only a proportion of the girls (when I visited only 6) have their photos and details of their services posted near the front desk. The details of the services that the girls provide is on the website but no photos and it is not clear that these are fully up to date and complete as girls of course come and go.

My understanding was that some public affection is allowed for example kissing, caressing and even a blow job on the couches. But the expectation of management is that this is only brief, will not involve full sex and that you will move to the rooms soon afterwards. I also understand that you are only allowed 30 minutes per session and that this 30 minutes will begin once you initiate any sexual activity like a blow job or hand job on the couches.

Also, I did not realise that they allowed the taking of photos inside the club so I assume this was clandestine?

[Dreams]

After the reports of our morality crusaders, I'd like to add how lucky we are to be able to have a full GFE with a girl beautifull young girl of your choice who is smiling at you waiting in her sofa for only 30 euro. You fuck her with or without protection, thats your choice.

Anyway, Arabella has become my favorite destination. I've had many of the wonderfull girls. Crema is (was, since she is now in Venus) of course the absolute top. But in fact you can choose any of the women in this club and you will be satisfied. They all kiss with tongue, they all suck an they all go bare if you want. On top of that their services are clearly mentioned with their pictures on the front desk. And I've never seen an unfriendly attitude.

My favorite is Andrea. This girl gives it all, including hardcore anal sex.

Last week I took the teen Bonny. SHe's tiny and slender and her ass almost fit in one hand. We were kissing and fondling on the coach before she bent over to blow me. She then sat on my lap and gave me a lapdance. She took my dick, shove it in her thight pussy and started riding me. In public. I had seen more of these public sessions in the lounge but it was actually my first one. After a while I decided to move on to a room, where we continued to have hot sex in any position that I wanted. As she did't want me to come inside her pussy, we finished with a CIM after more excellent sucking and licking of my dick and balls. .

I add some pictures of the general atmosphere in the club.

Thanks, mate. At last a report, who is just informative, and does not comment and criticise other's behavior.

I have been last to Venus and Arabella a few months back. Unlucky as I was, I missed Crema at both those occasions. But enjoyed Aida and a few others.

[Dreams]

Seems to me that there is too much talk about these small, disgusting little clubs and that this type of venue should be in discussed in some sorta dark and dingey sub-directory away from chat about the big time FKK and Sauna Clubs. That way the dimwits who partake in this type of disgusting unsafe behaviour can crawl around in the dark away from normal type regular guy mongers.

We were happy discussing those clubs that you call "disgusting" in their own thread until people like you and a few others came in to tell us how disgusting we were. We did not invite you in.

Have you EVER been into one those clubs? Or are you just adding some useless comments from your dirty sofa?

Just stay in your "noble" thread, where you believe you are in a safe environement, until you also catch something. You won't believe it though, I am sure.

Free for you to pay 2-3 times more, in the belief that you are safe. Only naive guys believe that AO is not offered in big FKKs. And that STDs are not rampant there too, especially since BBBjs are the norms.

At the end, whether it is in "disgusting" little clubs, or "big " FKKs, it is up to the monger to choose protected or unprotected sex.

[Dreams]

Can't imagine any doctor giving you the ok to fuck prostitutes without a condom.

This shows that you lack imagination.

[Kris Kras]

After the reports of our morality crusaders, I'd like to add how lucky we are to be able to have a full GFE with a girl beautifull young girl of your choice who is smiling at you waiting in her sofa for only 30 euro. You fuck her with or without protection, thats your choice.

Anyway, Arabella has become my favorite destination. I've had many of the wonderfull girls. Crema is (was, since she is now in Venus) of course the absolute top. But in fact you can choose any of the women in this club and you will be satisfied. They all kiss with tongue, they all suck an they all go bare if you want. On top of that their services are clearly mentioned with their pictures on the front desk. And I've never seen an unfriendly attitude.

My favorite is Andrea. This girl gives it all, including hardcore anal sex.

Last week I took the teen Bonny. SHe's tiny and slender and her ass almost fit in one hand. We were kissing and fondling on the coach before she bent over to blow me. She then sat on my lap and gave me a lapdance. She took my dick, shove it in her thight pussy and started riding me. In public. I had seen more of these public sessions in the lounge but it was actually my first one. After a while I decided to move on to a room, where we continued to have hot sex in any position that I wanted. As she did't want me to come inside her pussy, we finished with a CIM after more excellent sucking and licking of my dick and balls. .

I add some pictures of the general atmosphere in the club.