FKK Arabella / Villa Venus / Sauna Grimberg - NRW AO Clubs

[Rohan Cid]

I would think the Maritim Gelsenkirchen should be ok. Not to high priced. Some ladies speak german. All speak french fluently. Grin.

Funny. Since English is my only language, what are my options?

[Kosher Kowboy]

I would think the Maritim Gelsenkirchen should be ok. Not to high priced. Some ladies speak german. All speak french fluently. Grin.

This is where I booked including breakfast is €592 for 7 nights.

[Kuni042]

Well, I get increasingly bored with GT. Magnum and Oceans anyway. And GT / YY are a long drive from Bochum, so indeed I shall be seen more at those NRW AO clubs.

Well said! When you indeed find that gem it's heavenly!

[Kuni042]

I would think the Maritim Gelsenkirchen should be ok. Not to high priced. Some ladies speak german. All speak french fluently. Grin.

Hello, what accommodations would you recommend that would be close to Grimberg? I am hoping to start my day there and then visit Arabella and / or Villa Venus. Also, if the ladies don't speak English, what would be a good way for me to communicate with them? If any of these questions have been answered elsewhere, please let me know where the answers are posted. Thank you.

[Rohan Cid]

Hello, what accommodations would you recommend that would be close to Grimberg? I am hoping to start my day there and then visit Arabella and / or Villa Venus. Also, if the ladies don't speak English, what would be a good way for me to communicate with them? If any of these questions have been answered elsewhere, please let me know where the answers are posted. Thank you.

[Vito Corleone]

Kuni, you will find some good looking and pretty women in the AO clubs, this is partly why some guys persevere, then you have hit the jackpot fucking without a condom, pulling your bare dick in and out of her holes. Natural sex as it should be and written in the bible. You become a hunter looking for that gem in the clubs among so much coal.

Well said! When you indeed find that gem it's heavenly!

[ExpatLover]

A really good looking woman who can deliver well performed AO can make more money as an independent escort, or even in a more upscale FKK. Not that they can all manage that. Many seem under the sway of a "boyfriend. ".

And also thinking that their health is more important than the money.

[Neurosynth]

... So my theory is, that those AO / RTC clubs will always have less chances to attract really good looking women, because the service expectations from you guys is very high. ...

A really good looking woman who can deliver well performed AO can make more money as an independent escort, or even in a more upscale FKK. Not that they can all manage that. Many seem under the sway of a "boyfriend. ".

[Tp273]

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...129&viewfull=1#post2243129.


Tp273, for example, just wrote he has visited all the clubs I reported about, but didn't write a single line. These are the things that make me post only once in a while whether I travel or not. I post more for myself, as a diary to remember things, than for people who can't write a line of info.

One may like my posts or not, but I do take the time and effort to write them for the benefit of people who give nothing back or just "I was there" (and... ?) or maybe just criticism. I am practically the only one in these desolated thread bothering to write a few "Blah Blah Blah". I apologize for that.

I did put a number of posts on ISG of the larger Clubs ( Oase, Sharks, Oceans, & Babylon) I visited on my last trip but have not got around to posting anything here about the smaller clubs. My business is requiring me to spend a lot of time making up for the 3 1/2 weeks I spent in Germany. When I get time, maybe in a few weeks I will share my adventures to Arabella, Grimberg, Luderland, Fruede39 , the Deitz & my brief stop at M-Exclusuive.

I also visited other non AO clubs such as Treff 188 , SaunaClub49, & XS Sauna club.

[Member #4585]

Indeed! I am doing the Sauna / FKK club thing now for 3 yrs, but didn't so far risk the AO thing. I am just learning that RTC means also AO.

So my theory is, that those AO / RTC clubs will always have less chances to attract really good looking women, because the service expectations from you guys is very high. So even a BBFJ.

Kuni, you will find some good looking and pretty women in the AO clubs, this is partly why some guys persevere, then you have hit the jackpot fucking without a condom, pulling your bare dick in and out of her holes. Natural sex as it should be and written in the bible. You become a hunter looking for that gem in the clubs among so much coal.

[Kuni042]

Indeed! I am doing the Sauna / FKK club thing now for 3 yrs, but didn't so far risk the AO thing. I am just learning that RTC means also AO.

So my theory is, that those AO / RTC clubs will always have less chances to attract really good looking women, because the service expectations from you guys is very high. So even a BBFJ.

Kuni, I hadn't understood why you carried on posting here about Great Palace, Salome and other clubs which are not AO, now at least I found out you didn't know what AO meant. Glad everything has been cleared.

About Ludertreff, yesterday 2 friends of mine were there. I'd say the club is in a phase of transition.

8 girls, 4 from "old" club, 4 from RTCs: Larissa and Maya from F39, Denisa from Luderland and I'm not sure about Anastasia from Arabella. They all offer the same service they were offering before the "fusion". One girl, I think I was told Jasmine, even BJ covered!

Mind the prices: 20 minutes 30 euros, 30 minutes 50 and 1 h 80.

My opinion is that the survivors of Aplerbeck will soon leave and that the club will become by all means a RTC, more or less like it happened with F39 in the beginning.

Varenne, I saw you RODed my posts. And I loved your comment. Thank you.

[EastGoing]

Kuni, I hadn't understood why you carried on posting here about Great Palace, Salome and other clubs which are not AO, now at least I found out you didn't know what AO meant. Glad everything has been cleared.

About Ludertreff, yesterday 2 friends of mine were there. I'd say the club is in a phase of transition.

8 girls, 4 from "old" club, 4 from RTCs: Larissa and Maya from F39, Denisa from Luderland and I'm not sure about Anastasia from Arabella. They all offer the same service they were offering before the "fusion". One girl, I think I was told Jasmine, even BJ covered!

Mind the prices: 20 minutes 30 euros, 30 minutes 50 and 1 h 80.

My opinion is that the survivors of Aplerbeck will soon leave and that the club will become by all means a RTC, more or less like it happened with F39 in the beginning.

Varenne, I saw you RODed my posts. And I loved your comment. Thank you.

[Member #4585]

Forgive my ignorance, but your question below was not answered (maybe it was.. but by PM?). I am mostly visiting GT, YY, Sharks and Oceans. So, this thing with RTC (red carpet club -- T = Teppich = carpet). Is this just the optics of the club? Or is it a special cluster of owners? Or is some sort of special service implied here?

RTC or translated into Red carpet clubs means obtusely that the attraction is AO sex meaning that all sex services are without rubbers. Only way to go for that natural GFE feeling.

[Neurosynth]

The new club Ludertreff is assimilated to Arabella, Verena, Luderland, Grimberg, Venus, F39 (what we now call RTC, irrespective from the actual decor). It seems that some girls from the Aplerbeck saunaclub team remained after it changed to Ludertreff though, and their service might not have adapted to what you expect in an RTC.

I confirm Luder Lounge is not an RTC.

I appreciate your adding new info to the mix here, but this seems a bit vague. If AO is not the rule rather than the exception, I'd be reluctant to think of Ludertreff as an RTC. Perhaps some others can report on what fraction of providers there are comfortable with BBFS.

[Kuni042]

Forgive my ignorance, but your question below was not answered (maybe it was.. but by PM?). I am mostly visiting GT, YY, Sharks and Oceans. So, this thing with RTC (red carpet club -- T = Teppich = carpet). Is this just the optics of the club? Or is it a special cluster of owners? Or is some sort of special service implied here?

Are you sure this is a true RTC? Luder Lounge to the best of my knowledge is not, but it is sometimes confused with Luderland in Leverkusen which is.