FKK Arabella / Villa Venus / Sauna Grimberg - NRW AO Clubs

[Optimist]

So if a girls asks you. "gummie or no gummie?" You can't answer that question right? What's the best way to approach it?

As Sirioja says, what you do behind closed doors is up to you and the girl. When you leave the room it is always respectful to be discreet about what you did. After all the girl may read what you write, identify you, and be unhappy with you. As Sirioja says, to a large extent, we get from the girls what we give.

As Neurosynth suggests, now is not the time to panic.We shall know more as time goes on.

[ExpatLover]

So if a girls asks you. "gummie or no gummie?" You can't answer that question right? What's the best way to approach it?

Most probably the girl will never tell you g. Or not, but with condom or not, after it is your choice if you want to take the ris to pay up to 50000 euros.

[Sirioja]

So if a girls asks you. "gummie or no gummie?" You can't answer that question right? What's the best way to approach it?

If a girl ask you what please You, it stay between you and her for win-win business, but you can't force anymore a girl, threatening to complain at the desk, like did many, crying like little girls, guys before, their only way to get from girls. Now, law protect girls, they can say: No. I agree with this law. Guys will get from what they are and behave.

[Wanking]

So is there no more AO at Arebella? Sorry if I'm asking something that is know, but I was at Arabella last year at this time and had a good time and was hoping to visit again. So what's the deal?

I was only in Verena, not Arabella.

No AO available in Verena from my experience.

[Yoyoma47]

Hi guys,

Thanks for all the feedback on the AO issue. So as I said, I'll be returning to Arabella's in a month or so after the good time I had last year. I was hoping you guys could recommend another place or two in the area to hit as well. Düsseldorf, Essen or Dortmund perhaps? I'll have a car so I can drive, but don't wish to travel too far if I don't need to.

Let me know what you guys recommend and why.

[ExpatLover]

The impact of this law has been somewhat exaggerated. Whatever services you've expected in the past from a given place are probably still available. It's just only done behind closed doors now. The law is mostly unenforcible, and so far we've not had a single enforcement action documented here, nor have I seen same on any other board.

Fully right, this Sunday at Oase the blond receptionist explain very loudly 2 times to a guy that CIM is 50 euros, obviously the new law will not apply in this place.

[Neurosynth]

So is there no more AO at Arebella? Sorry if I'm asking something that is know, but I was at Arabella last year at this time and had a good time and was hoping to visit again. So what's the deal?

The impact of this law has been somewhat exaggerated. Whatever services you've expected in the past from a given place are probably still available. It's just only done behind closed doors now. The law is mostly unenforcible, and so far we've not had a single enforcement action documented here, nor have I seen same on any other board.

[Yoyoma47]

AO is illegal since new German law on first July. Same for BBBJ. What is illegal is to ask for, but a girl who likes you, is free to please you. No risk to be prosecuted for girls.

So if a girls asks you. "gummie or no gummie?" You can't answer that question right? What's the best way to approach it?

[ExpatLover]

So is there no more AO at Arebella? Sorry if I'm asking something that is know, but I was at Arabella last year at this time and had a good time and was hoping to visit again. So what's the deal?

Just go through the forum and you will get all the answers.

[Sirioja]

So is there no more AO at Arebella? Sorry if I'm asking something that is know, but I was at Arabella last year at this time and had a good time and was hoping to visit again. So what's the deal?

AO is illegal since new German law on first July. Same for BBBJ. What is illegal is to ask for, but a girl who likes you, is free to please you. No risk to be prosecuted for girls.

[Yoyoma47]

I think with the loss of AO, CIM and anal are alot less frequent. I came once in the condom and next cum was with HJ.

More later.

So is there no more AO at Arebella? Sorry if I'm asking something that is know, but I was at Arabella last year at this time and had a good time and was hoping to visit again. So what's the deal?

[ExpatLover]

I think with the loss of AO, CIM and anal are alot less frequent. I came once in the condom and next cum was with HJ.

More later.

Anal is very easy to get in all the big clubs, most of the girls are proposing it if you behave like a gentleman, if you behave like a uneducated guy only controlled by his testosterone it is more challenging.

[Wanking]

In the RTC CIM and anal have always been included in the 30. Anyway I waiting your detailed report on P3, I never heard about this club and I'm curious to know about it. Thanks!

I think with the loss of AO, CIM and anal are alot less frequent. I came once in the condom and next cum was with HJ.

More later.

[Christian G]

I didn't enquire about CIM or Anal, because I had 2 good CIM in P3 swingers previous night and I don't normally pay for extras in FKKs.

There's alot of regulars in Verena who are probably getting AO etc still.

I didn't make it to former pauschal dortmund. I off to P3 swingers again tomorrow, for the afternoon party.

I had a good time in Verena even if its boring as hell there. Its a well run club and the ladies and service were good.

In the RTC CIM and anal have always been included in the 30€. Anyway I waiting your detailed report on P3, I never heard about this club and I'm curious to know about it. Thanks!

[Wanking]

At least one good news. What about CIM and anal? Did you go to the former PC Dortmund?

I didn't enquire about CIM or Anal, because I had 2 good CIM in P3 swingers previous night and I don't normally pay for extras in FKKs.

There's alot of regulars in Verena who are probably getting AO etc still.

I didn't make it to former pauschal dortmund. I off to P3 swingers again tomorrow, for the afternoon party.

I had a good time in Verena even if its boring as hell there. Its a well run club and the ladies and service were good.