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08-10-16 18:23 #22Sorry I did first now read your letter. I have just been in Moldova, but I come back to Moldova in the end of December. If you plan to be in Moldova in the end of December and start of January are you more then welcome to write a PM to me. It could be nice to meet you.
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Dexa.
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07-10-16 23:24 #21
Hi Dexa,
I am arriving in Chisinau 13 July and I will stay for a week that time. If you have time we meet to take a beer or to. I will be all alone. I've been once last year in Moldova Chisinau, met some beautiful girls but I've lost contacts. Tinder worked nice for me last year. The problem is that their English is not at the best level.
I am male, 35 from Southern Europe but living in Scandinavia.
Send PM If you have time and want to meet.
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07-10-15 13:20 #20
Meeting in Chisinau
I am now in Moldova. I will stay the rest of July in Chisinau, and I would be happy to meet anybody, who is there and want to meet me. I will be happy to meet for a beer or a drink. Just PM me if you are in Moldova in July. I am 50+ man.
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05-31-15 23:38 #19
Bella Selena
http://bucuresti.backpage.com/Female...escort/2661726 I find what girl in internet I have very good time with she.
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04-26-15 17:16 #18
For the "first time male tourist" who is looking after Moldovan women, part 14
I have decide that I will make a series of reports about Moldova, where the target group is the 50+ "first time male tourist" who is thinking about coming to Moldova and meet Moldovan women.
I am private person, so I will only write in generally. I will never post photo of girls I meet in Moldova. Because personally do I think this is part of the girl and my private life. I do not want to make it public on Internet. In many ways are I am a private person. Because I am private person, do I only write in generally, and there will be no photos of women I have met. But I have been many times in Moldova, so I think I have some "know-how" about Moldova.
I am not putting photo on Internet. Instead is I am doing that I am willing to personally at meet with other men from ISG Moldova Forum in Moldova, when I myself are in Moldova. In the past 9 years have I met with 10 friends from ISG Moldova forum. All 10 meetings have been very nice and it has been very good to share experience about women in Moldova, and drink a good drink together. All 10 meeting was in Chisinau.
I can strongly recommend that you take your time to make many "face to face" meeting in Chisinau with western male friends from ISG-Moldova, and simply exchange your experience about Moldovan women with other ISG male friends, and also listen to how they (the other ISG-men) are "working" with Moldovan women, and in return tell them how you are "working" with Moldovan women. My personally experience is that this kind of "face to face" meeting gives a lot. All my "face to face" meeting with ISG friends have been very nice and it has been very good to sit and drink a beer together and share experiences about Moldovan women.
How can you know if my "expert principle" will work? You can not know. Of course can I not provide a guarantee for success. I can just say that I personally after visiting Moldova many times in the last 12 years, have I in the last 7 years meet and "have action with" more young 18 to 29 old Moldovan women, then I did in a 7 years period while I was a young man (and meet young women in my home country). It has been odd and a bit strange for me to experience this as a 50+ old man. In the last 6 years period in Moldova, have I had 2 long-term girlfriends in Chisinau, and I am still together with the last one. My current long-term girlfriend is 22 years old. I did meet her while she was 18 years old. I am a 50+ man. So for me, have my "expert principle" worked very well. Every year do I several time visit Moldova, and every time I am in Moldova is it very nice to meet my long-term Moldovan girlfriend again. I very much like Chisinau, and I do always have a good time in Chisinau. In 2014 and 2015 (until today) have I been 4 times in Moldova, where I all 4 times did have a very good time.
I have decide to create a new user thread and blog with the name "For the first time male tourist who is looking after Moldovan women", and then put together all my reports in my series. The first 13 parts in this series of reports have I already have made public in this thread.
In Part 1, did I write an introduction to this series. Part 2 was about how to meet Moldovan women using the Internet. In Part 3, did I write about Moldovan women in the disco. Part 4 was about Moldovan women and nightclubs and shopping centre in Chisinau. In Part 5, did I write about pubs, bars, and cafs in Chisinau. Part 6 was about the different group of young Moldovan women in Moldova and the 10 most important factors when Moldovan women choose the man. In Part 7, did I write about a "Help list" of topics. Part 8 was about the "all out war" in ISG-Moldova in the beginning of 2009. In Part 9, did I write about that there is "no free lunch" if you as a 50+ western male tourist want to be together with 18 to 25 years young and nice Moldovan women. Part 10 was about, that Moldovan women have a too little "dating pool" of good Moldovan men. In Part 11 and in part 12, did I write about different aspect related to dating with Moldovan women. Part 13 was about, in what kind of relationships, do I think Moldova is strong and weak.
In this reports will I look at different aspect related to one-night stands and long-term relationship with young Moldovan women, when you are a western middle-age male tourist (who is between 45 to 65 years old).
(12-20-2013, Canyon11 about Balti, Moldova).
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(Antuan, about women in Moldova). Originally Posted by Essi
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(George Red, 01-29-2009, about meeting young women in Moldova). Originally Posted by Essi
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(DirkDingy, 01-26-2006). Originally Posted by GeorgeRed
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(Felix Nordic, 01-17-2006). Originally Posted by DirkDingy
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I do agree with Essi, Canyon11 and Felix Nordic when they in the quotes above are saying that it is very difficult to make free one-night stands with young freebie Moldovan women if you are a middle-age male tourist (who is between 45 to 65 years old). I do also think it will be very difficult for the 50+ western male tourists to make totally free one-night stands with young 18 to 25 years old Moldovan women. Originally Posted by FelixNordic
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As I have written about before is Moldova not an easy pick-up spots for middle-aged western male tourists who are looking for free one-night stands with young Moldovan women. Young Moldovan women try to avoid "pump and dump" middle-aged foreign male tourists. Young Moldovan women do not like to end as "fucked and forgotten" and they do not like "fuck and go" male tourists. The "sex tourist paranoia" in Chisinau also makes it difficult for middle-aged western male tourist to make this kind of holidays. It will simply be very difficult for a "first time" middle-aged western male tourists to make free one-night stands with young freebie Moldovan women in a 1 weeks holiday in Chisinau. At the same time is it also very important to remember that newcommers and "first time" middle-aged western male tourists who are visiting Moldova for the first time, very easy risk to end with "no action at all" and simply end with an empty wallet and no sex at all; he can simply easily risk receiving only null sex. Zero sex if he is only going after normally one-night stands with young freebie women in Moldova. Many young Moldovan women will feel that it lower her value and reputation if she make several one-night stands with different foreign male tourists and having her friend's, mother, father, the rest of her family and city to know about that. Because of the "sex tourist paranoia" are young Moldovan women skeptical and mistrustfully. She won't take your words at face value and will try to question you to make sure your story is true. Young Moldovan women do not like empty promises.
I guess that the background for "sex tourist paranoia" in Chisinau simply is that to many male tourist in the past simply have been lying and promise to marry or start a serious long-term relationship with Moldovan women, and then after sex have the male tourist simply disappeared and dump the young Moldovan woman. This kind of negative experience with male tourist have simply increase the "sex tourist paranoia" in Chisinau and strongly reduce male tourists social capital in Chisinau. The result is the situation Essi, Canyon11 and Felix Nordic are mentioning in the quotes above. My guess is that there simply have been too many "pump and dump" and "fuck and go" male tourists in Chisinau, Moldova, who has been lying and making empty promises toward young Moldovan women. These negative experience have made many young Moldova women to conclude that many male tourists only are playing with them and doing "pump and dump". As a result will some young women think that western male tourists do not comply with there end of the bargain. All this has contributed to crate a situation with "sex tourist paranoia" in Chisinau and has made the situation for middle-aged male tourists more difficult when we talk about young Moldovan women.
Of many different reasons do I think it is important to avoid lying to young Moldovan women you just have met and where you try to start something up. First at all, if young Moldovan women feel that it is normally that western male tourist is lying to them, will it just increase young Moldovan women skepticism towards western male tourists. At the same time will it also just increase the level of "sex tourist paranoia" among young Moldovan women. When you are starting up with a young Moldovan woman it is very important that she feels you comply with your end of the bargain, as she define it. That is to say, for example in relation to making long-term relationship. If they feel that you comply with your end of the bargain is it my personally experience that the majority (but not all!) of young Moldovan women will try to be "all the girl they can be" for you. They will feel that you are their man, and you will get the respect from the majority (but not all!) of young Moldovan women. If young Moldovan women in general think that western male tourists comply with there end of the bargain will it in general increase western male tourists social capital and reduce the level of "sex tourist paranoia" among young Moldovan women. Of all these reasons do I think it is important that western male tourists shall avoid "big time" lying towards young Moldovan women. Of these reasons would I also like to call for caution and make a warning against trying to make "shortcut" with "lying" about your own person or "lying" about your own personally history or background. This will only increase Moldovan women skepticism and in the end will it only make it more difficult for other male "first time" tourist who arrive to Chisinau and increase the general skepticism about the male "first time" tourist among Moldovan women.
Also If you are avoiding lying to your young Moldovan woman may it also prevent her from poisoning your reputation among her other friends in Chisinau. Keep in mind that some Moldovan women spend a lot of time together where they are talking about men including slander men.
It is much better if you choose to build a good positive reputation among women in Chisinau. You can try doing that with speaking the true toward Moldovan women, choosing having long-term relationship with Moldovan women, being a easy going man who is giving his Moldovan long-term girlfriend a long rope, being a kind and nice man, choosing having a semi-permanent present in Chisinau (where you are regular coming 2 to 4 times every year to Chisinau), having a good job whit a good salary. All these kind of factors will give you a positive reputation among women in Chisinau. As a result of your good reputation among the young Moldovan women, will you typically find that it will be easier and easier for you to find young Moldovan women who want to start long-term relationship with you when you have been 5 to 10 years in Moldova. This happens despite the fact that you in the same period have been many years older and now is a 50+ middle-age male tourist.
I do also very much agree with my very good friend BrasilSoccer0 (see the quote above) that Moldovan cities like Chisinau and Tiraspol are like a big village, so many girls knows who you're dating, shagging, and they knows who your long-term girlfriend is. This includes the next young Moldovan girl you want to begin a flirt with. This is one of the reasons why building a good positive reputation among Moldovan women is very important. I do also think that Moldova (including Transnistria) can be a good destination for having young long-term girlfriends for the western middle-aged male tourists who is having a semi-permanent present in Moldova (including Transnistria). But please also remember that Moldova very much is an insider's country, and that makes things much more difficult if you are a "first time" male tourist. For this reason, will things be easier for you when you have visited Moldova regularly for a 2 year period and have achieved a semi-permanent present in Moldova. Originally Posted by BrasilSoccer0
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Many young Moldovan women are very nervous about being "marked" as prostitutes if they are sexual together with many different men, this risk is especially big if they are sexual together with many western male tourists. In Moldova can young Moldovan women very easy and totally unfairly be "marked" as prostitutes, just if they are seeing walking together or eating together with an older western male tourist (where she not is part of big group, but alone together with the western male tourist). So also of this reason are young Moldovan women very cautious, carefully and slow. In general can young Moldovan women encounter some social discomfort if they are together with old or middle-aged western male tourist. This can happen even they just were socially together and nothing more did happen. If you are a "kind man, stable man, a good father to her future children and a good provider" who want a long-term relationship with a young Moldovan girl, will young Moldovan women love to tackle the problem of being "marked" as prostitutes and the social discomfort, but this fight does many young Moldovan women not want to take just because of some "stupid" one-night stands with old or middle-aged western male tourist. So if you have a good health, good social skills, good cultural skills, good education, good job, good wages / salaries, good personal finance, have a lot of time you can spend in Moldova and the young Moldovan woman perceive you as a kind man, easy going, stabile, reliable, strong, trustworthy and credible person, a good provider, a good father to her future children and a good long-term boyfriend and husband will you have a positive situation. In this positive situation will young Moldovan women be willing to take up the fight against the "marking" as prostitute and the social discomfort even if you are an old or middle-aged western male tourist. If they perceive you (a western male tourist) in this positive way will many young Moldovan women only have little respect for their fellow countrymen opinion and they will not care about what they think. But if the young Moldovan woman perceive you (a middle-aged western male tourist) as a "bad" man, an unserious man, an untrustworthy man, a "fuck-and-leave game-man", a one-night stand man, "pump and dump" and "fuck and go" male tourist then will the young Moldovan woman most likely simply drop you. All this, because she quite simply evaluate and rate the situation, that you not are worth the trouble you give her, and she therefore does not want to take up the fight against the "marking" as a prostitute and the social discomfort.
As an example of this kind of problems can I mention that some few (but not all!) Moldovan men and Moldovan women in Moldova in some cases do have the opinion that Moldovan girls who are together with western male tourist, most likely are prostitute. I have many times when I was together with a young Moldovan woman in Chisinau city had episode where Moldovan persons (who was unknown men to me) directly had said "not nice thing" like that "she is a prostitute" to the Moldovan woman I was together with. Nearly all the episodes have happen at public places and nearly all have been in the daytime. And these kinds of episode have happen regular to me in the 12 years period I have been visiting Moldova, on average have it happen about 1 time in a year. So the prostitution talk and the "sex tourist paranoia" in Moldova can be a problem for a 50+ western male tourist.
Chisinau is just like a small city or a big village and I think it is very difficult for young Moldovan women to put up with a behavior where they run the risk that other people will say that they are sluts, working girl or prostitutes. Young Moldovan women have one problem; there family, friends and other Moldovan women do shame young Moldovan women who are seen to have been together with many other guys, especially if these other men are middle-age western male tourists. Some young Moldovan women have also tried that some other Moldovan women have use shaming to help their competitive odds when different women do compete about a man. Young Moldovan women do simply know that it is not uncommon for a young girl to shame another young girl where she has a rivalry and competition about relationship to a man. This is done simply with attempting to paint her as a prostitute. When one Moldovan woman is shaming another Moldovan woman can she in this way simply reduce the other Moldovan woman social capital. This is just one of many reasons why young Moldovan women are very carefully when we talk about making one night stands with middle-age male tourists. Often are young Moldovan women each other's worst enemies. Young Moldovan women do sometimes make stupid and ridiculous criticism of other young Moldovan women.
It is also central that we do not fool ourselves. Very few young 18 to 25 years young Moldovan women will feel the same level off "natural physical attraction" to the 45 to 65 year old middle-aged western male tourists compare with the level off "natural physical attraction" they feel toward young men. This will make it very difficult for the 45 to 65 year old middle-aged western male tourist to make normally free one-night stands in Moldova with 18 to 25 years young freebie Moldovan women on a total full freebie basis.
All in all can you say that it will be difficult for middle-age male tourist to make totally free one-night stands with young 18 to 25 years old Moldovan women. The problem is that there in Moldova is no totally free lunch when we talk about 18 to 25 years young women in Moldova and 50+ Western male tourists.
If 45 to 65 year old middle-aged western male tourists want to be together with young 18 to 25 year Moldovan women does he need some tools that can work as the "great push factors" in relation to young Moldovan women. One "great push factor" can be giving with offering a long-term perspective on the relationship. If you as a 45 to 65 year old middle-aged western male have a good health, good social skills, good cultural skills, easy going, good education, good job, have a lot of time you can spend in Moldova, good wages / salaries, good personal finance and you also are a stabile, reliable, strong, trustworthy, have intelligence, kindness and credibility will all this together be a "great push factor" if you combine it with willingness to have a young Moldovan long-term girlfriend where you at the same time have a semi-permanent presence in Chisinau where you can give your young Moldovan long-term girlfriend attention, care, social security, social safety net, social status and a long-term perspective on the relationship. It is at least my personally experience that all these factors all together work well as a "great push factor" that makes possible for 45 to 65 year old middle-aged western male tourist to start long-term relationship that include sex with a 18 to 25 year young Moldovan woman. Another "great push factor" can be, if you give your young Moldovan girlfriend a long rope, so she will perceive you as a very easy going man. In general can you say that is a "great push factor" if you are a 45 to 65 year old middle-aged western male who are a socially mature man with a good socio-economic status. Many young Moldovan women are attracted to this type of men if he wants to start some kind of long-term relationship.
You can choose to add a sponsor element to your long-term relationship with young Moldovan woman. If you choose this is it very important to understand that the sponsor element not is the "payment" for making sex with the Moldovan girl (you are not "buying sex" so you can not use the "sponsor element" as a smart way to make one-night stand with Moldovan women, when we are talking about this group of Moldovan girls. No, "helping your girlfriend" can be used if you already have met a Moldovan girl who wants to have a long-term relationship with you, and you not are into a "marriage 1 year, fast-track mode". The "sponsor element" is simply "your payment" if you not want to make a wedding in a 1 to 2 year timeframe. As I did said before is there "no free lunch" if you as a 45 to 65 years old western man want to be together with young 18 to 25 years old Moldovan women. With "helping your long-term girlfriend" are you not "buying sex", but you are instead "buying freedom" to avoid wedding in a 1 to 2 year timeframe.
There are only two alternative to "helping your long-term girlfriend"; where alternative option 1 simply is where you is making a wedding in a 1 to 2 year timeframe with your young Moldovan long-term girlfriend. And alternative option 2 is where you are starting living permanent together with your long-term young Moldovan girlfriend in the same house or apartment (in Moldova). As I did said there is "no free lunch" if you as a 45 to 65 years old western man want to be together with young 18 to 25 years old Moldovan women. In this situation will you only have three main options, where option number 1 is "helping your young long-term Moldovan girlfriend"; option number 2 is "marriage in a 1 year, fast-track mode" where you marriage your young long-term Moldovan girlfriend, and you are making the wedding in a 1 to 2 year timeframe, after the wedding do you take your Moldovan wife to your home country, or you yourself move to Moldova; option number 3 is you yourself moving to Moldova and start living in Moldova, and live together with your young long-term Moldovan girlfriend in the same apartment or house. There are only these 3 main options when you are a 45 to 65 years old western man who wants to be together with young 18 to 25 years old Moldovan women.
As a second reason can I mention, that I did also help my different long-term girlfriends because I did feel it a little bit strange, when I did go home to a good life in my home country while they were staying in Moldova with only few money to make the living and lives hand-to-mouth, so I simply want to help them a little before I went home.
Now can you maybe think that sponsor element just is "sex for money", but personally do I disagree in this opinion. If I shall be honest do I personally only define "sex for money" as one night stands where you have a very clear agreement with the woman about "you make sex with me, and I give you 100 Euro". Remember it just from the early 1900's that we have had the concept "a date" with a clear and explicit etiquette manual saying that men were to pay for meals, entertainment and transportation, and in return do women provide company, rapt attention and some physical affection. You can say that his money bought her companionship. In Moldova do people still follow this date etiquette manual. After my opinion do stuff like this and all other kind of support to long-term girlfriend absolute and in no way belongs under the concept "sex for money". Personally do I believe that a wide and extended "sex for money" concept just will make all things very blurry. Because if you have an extended "sex for money" concept, will it impact on the classification on all the relationships (including marriage couple and other long-term couple) where you have unequal financial resources and some kind of transfer of resources from the man to the women (or opposite). Because the consequence of this extended "sex for money" concept will be, that it in these situations would be possible for people to classify these kinds of relationships as a "sex for money" relationship and long-term prostitution. In my opinion does it simply not make sense. In my opinion can a woman receive gifts including money as part of a long-term relationship that include sex and it will not constitute a "sex for money" case. I do actually agree with the women mention in LilJoey report and there opinion about this issue, where the women in his report did see the exchange as "friendship" and not a "sex for money" case (a quote from LilJoey report is shown just below). To some extend do I agree that a lot of things just are words and spin, so it can be true to say that it's all in the spin.
When we talk about spin is it of course also important to notices, that when I talk about sponsor element in a long-term relationship, do I not mean that the western male tourist shall give in to young Moldovan female predator who are hunting western male tourist and when she finds him will she snared her male tourist and try to extract so much money as she can from the male tourist. When she is done, does he hang back alone, finished with no money and she has dump him and find a young local male boyfriend or a new male tourist she can snared. I think it is very important for western male tourists to avoid these kinds of young Moldovan female predator who tricked there western male tourist. The 45 to 65 year old middle-aged western male need to be carefully because he do risk to run into problems with the young Moldovan female predator, young Moldovan party-girls, Moldovan green cards girls, young Moldovan female gold-digger and Moldovan scam women.
If you are thinking about having a long-term young Moldovan girlfriend where you plan to offer a relationship with a sponsor element is it a good idea only to make a short suggestion about this, where you shall not be too precise about the level, because you must avoid attracting female gold-digger, party girls, scam-girls or young Moldovan female predator. Of the same reason shall you not offer her a too high level. A level around 100 to 400 Euro a month is a good and reasonable level. If you are willing to spend more money every month can it be good idea to choose to have 2 young long-term Moldovan girlfriends at the same time. You shall avoid sponsor element at a level around 500 to 600 Euro a month (to one girlfriend) because you with this level very easy risk attracting female gold-digger, party girls, scam-girls or young Moldovan female predator, which just will give you a lot of problems. Because this type of Moldovan women very easily can transform your relationship into a "living hell", and you end up with a relationship with no GFE and only having a "bad" time. You can also run into problems with your young Moldovan girlfriend if she only has little self-control over the way she behaves in different situations. You can also risk running into problems with young Moldovan female predator if your young Moldova girl is obsessed about money in a very materialistic way, where she often ask you for expensive presents. A big warnings sign is also if she begin only to want to make sex with you after you have done something for her first (give her a for expensive present). Of these reasons shall you be carefully about not to offer a too high level sponsor element. If you have a relations with a Moldovan female predator can the relationship also very easy degenerate to an empty shell where the Moldovan girl tried to run a scam. With this do I mean, that the Moldovan female predator thinks that you are stupid and boring (but big time still wants your money). This is typically indicated and shown where she suddenly begins to have a lot of excuses for not being together with you when you are in Chisinau, Moldova. The excuses can be all, from strictly necessary family trip to Tiraspol, the grandmother's illness, to long-planned vacation with friends in Odessa. These excuses will often have the character of BS stories. Normally would a woman in this situation quickly drop the relationship, but the scam is simply that the Moldovan female predator do not want to drop the relationship because of the "help" (the euro you give her every month), instead, will she continue to make excuses for not being together with you and she'll be still less and less together with you. In some cases, can the Moldovan woman even think of just leaving from you without first talking with you about it and she will not pick up the phone when you try to call her. You would first get an explanation when she comes back to Chisinau. Her goal is obvious that she can continue to receive your "help" without the need for her to be together with you. If you think you are the victim of this kind of scam is it very important that you have a serious talk with your long-term girlfriend. If the problems after the talk still continue can it simply be necessary that you end the relationship. You should not expect that she suddenly become "reasonable" and she herself ends the relationship.
On the other hand is it a good sign (for you) if she, your long-term Moldovan sometimes does things for you without any reason and give you support when you need support and back you up when you need back up. A good sign (for you) is also if she never or only rarely ask you for presents, and she like often to make sex with you and also like to be together with you. With this type of girl will it often be a good idea to offer a long-term relationship with a sponsor element.
Before you plan to start a long-term relationship with a sponsor element with a young Moldovan girl shall you know, that it is my personally experience that Moldovan women can be very tactical, so it actual can take me very long time before I actual have found out what intension the Moldovan women did have. I have often only found out what intension the Moldovan women did have, after I have made sex with the Moldovan women. This have lead to the screening process and goals match process both can be very time consuming and burdensome, and make it necessary to meet and "have action with" several Moldovan women before I have found a good long-term girlfriend. So you shall expect that it can take you some time before you have found your young long-term Moldovan girlfriend.
(Garcia123,08-31-2008). Originally Posted by LilJoey
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(Anal Intruder, 05-13-2010, about Military Club in Chisinau). Originally Posted by Garcia123
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In the past have there in the debate in ISG-Moldova been 2 extremes, one approach among some male tourists has been to largely be willing to pay disco, restaurant, night club for young Moldovan women where there are no long-term relationship or other sexual relationship, but just only talk. Personally do I not like this approach because I think we don't need to go to Moldova if we want to spend money only to talk with young women. That can easily be done in our own western home country! The other approach for some middle-age male tourists has been only to have totally free one-night stands with young freebie Moldovan women without giving something back. After my opinion is this approach totally unrealistic, simply because there is nothing in it for young Moldovan women. She will not get a long-term relationship; she will only get a bad reputation. In the long run do I not think this approach will work for middle-age 45 to 65 years old male tourists who want to be together with 18 to 25 year young and nice Moldovan women. Originally Posted by AnalIntruder
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All in all is it important to understand that there, as I have mention before, essentially only are 3 options that work well in Moldova for the 50+ western male tourists, when we talk about young 18 25 years old Moldovan women.
Where option 1 is to have serious long-term relationship where you want to married your young Moldovan girlfriend in a 1 to 2 year timeframe. When you after the wedding choose to take you young Moldovan wife home to your western home country is it very important that you are willing to spend the money and use the time to visit Moldova 2 to 3 times every year, so your Moldovan wife still can keep the contact with her Moldovan family and her local Moldovan friends. This is important because she will most likely be very happy that it is possible for her to keep her contact with her family and local Moldovan friends. But it is also important because most likely will her family and Moldovan friends be saying to her, "that she is very luckily because she has got such a good husband". Both factors will reduce the divorce risk.
As option number 2 can you choose to have serious long-term relationship where you want to married your young Moldovan girlfriend in a 1 to 2 year timeframe, but after the wedding do you choose to let your Moldovan wife continue to live in Moldova and you choose to permanently live half to full time in Moldova. You maybe have an international work where you travel a lot, but your international work does still make it possible that you can live (at least) 3 to 6 month every year in Moldova. As a variant to option number 2 (a option 2 B) can you choose permanently to move to Moldova and start permanent living together with your long-term young Moldovan girlfriend in the same house or apartment (in Moldova), in this way can you delay the wedding, so the wedding maybe first is after 5 years. Options 2 (A or B) is a good idea if is possible for you to make option 2 (A or B). This option has this big advantage that it makes it possible for your Moldovan girl to keep a close contact with her Moldovan family and her local Moldovan friends. Both tings are most likely important for her. In this case will she most likely be very happy with option 2 (or 2 B), which of course it at the same time is to big benefit for you. This option also have the advantage (just as option 1) that most likely will her friend and family be saying, "That she is very luckily because she has got such a good husband (or live together with such a good long-term boyfriend)". All these factors will reduce the divorce risk.
The last third option is to have a long-term relationship with the young Moldovan women that include a sponsor element. The sponsor element can be of all kind; it shall just make it possible for her to get some kind of benefits where she in some ways can extract resources. So it can be all kind of "help", for example from finding a very good job to her in Chisinau, ensure that she get a promotion at her work, give her some money every month, ensure that she get a good exams at her university, pay the rent for her apartment or room, pay her university fee, gifts, presents or several tourist trips abroad every year. It is important that you also have the desire and time to visit Moldova several times in a year. It is central that the Moldovan girls perceive you (a western male tourist) as a good provider and a stable, easy going, reliable, trustworthy and credible person who speaks the truth. You must remember that Moldova do not have a European welfare state. So it is the family and husband / long-term boyfriend who are young Moldovan women's social security and social safety net. Among other things is this one of the reasons that it is important that the young Moldovan girl perceive you (a western male tourist) as a good provider who want to make some kind of long-term commit to her and perceive you as a stable, reliable, easy going, trustworthy and credible person who speaks the truth. It is also a great advantage if you have some kind of permanent presence in Moldova. This can be done in different ways, with much different kind of "permanent presences" in Moldova including semi-permanent presence in Chisinau, where you are coming 2 to 4 times every year to Chisinau, Moldova. My personally experience is that this kind of semi-permanent presence in Chisinau will work well. My personally experience is also, that if you as a 50+ western male tourists meets all the factors I just have mentioned, are there many young 18 to 25 years old Moldovan women who are very interested in starting a long-term relationship with a 50+ western male tourist.
When you think about the 3 to 4 options I just have mention is it important to remember that the normally young 18 to 25 years old Moldovan women in general, not are interested in making free one-night stands with 50+ western male tourist. So please remember that middle-aged 50+ male tourists only have very little possibility to succeed in fast hookups and making free one-night stands with normally young 18 to 25 years old freebie Moldovan women.
Young Moldovan women are looking out for their best interests and try to avoid ending being "pumped and dumped" and "fucked and forgotten" of middle-age male tourists or local Moldovan men. Young Moldovan women try to avoid "fuck and go" male tourists. Young Moldovan women are fully aware of the clock working against them. Young Moldovan women think it will be a failure in life if they remain single at the age of 35 without having a long-term boyfriend or a husband. So getting a long-term relationship is put high on Moldovan women agenda. Many Moldovan females want a husband or long-term boyfriend who can give them the possibility to live with the 4 see system (CCCC): cocks, cash, cooking, children.
Many young Moldovan girls are in reality quite conservative women who are looking after long-term boyfriend who either are a local rich business man, a Moldovan man who has emigrate and works outside Moldova, but sill regular are visiting Moldova, a Moldovan man with connection which make it possible for him to make different kind of "business", a man with a high level specialist work or high-level career work, a western male tourist (foreigner) who regular visits Moldova or a foreign business man with business in Moldova. The problem for young Moldovan girls is that there all too few men in Moldova who belongs the groups I just have mention, compare with the big number of young Moldovan women in Moldova. Many young Moldovan women do dream about a long-term boyfriend who belongs to the groups I just have mention, because these kinds of men can make it possible for the young Moldovan girl to have a good life, where she maybe even can stop working and go home (if she wants this) and she can have social security and a good social status. The groups of men I just have mentions is of course also the groups of men you are competing with, if you arrive to Moldova as a 50+ western male tourist who want to get a long-term young Moldovan girlfriend (18 to 25 years old).
Please remember that you shall not expect that your young Moldovan girlfriend will give you "unconditional love", most likely will she "love" you in a conditionally and opportunistically way. Maybe she starts the relationship with you because you were the best high-quality man she could get. Most likely will she only "love" you, as long you meet the meet the list of requirements (economically, socially, status, long-term relation, semi-permanent living in Moldova and so on). But is this so different from what many women are doing in many western countries? Just as in western countries will many young Moldovan long-term girlfriends also in a conditionally and opportunistically way play the emotional packet (sex, "love" and tenderness) in the relationship with the western man. Both young western women and young Moldovan women do many times play the emotional packet (sex, "love" and tenderness) in a conditionally and opportunistically way when they have a relationship with a man. In reality does it happen in many ways in western countries. Just think about, how many young good looking western women do you think married to a poor unemployed young man without money? At least in my home country is it really very rare to happen. Please also remember that even in the situation where you continue to meet the list of requirements, is there a risk that she begin to feel that you are begin to being old and boring, and she choose to finish the relationship or begin to make some scam on you.
One of the most common mistakes that some western people do make, are that they think they could make it all with little effort where they just only need to spend a little bit of money on a young Moldovan woman and then will it be possible to make an easy pick-up. They think that you can get normally and ordinary young Moldovan women to make sex with them if they give her 30 $, and then would she be willing to make a one-night stands with a western middle-aged male tourist. In my opinion, are they wrong. Generally, will it not be possible to lure and tempt normally ordinary young Moldovan women (18 to 25 years old) to make one-night stands with middle-aged male tourist with just giving her 30 $. I believe that some western people in this way clearly overestimate the importance of money and at the same time do they underestimate the importance of long-term relationship. I think it is much more important if the young Moldovan women believe that the western middle-aged male tourist is willing to start a long-term relationship with her. If they (the young Moldovan women) also believe that he is trustworthy, easy going, tolerant and giving her a long rope, well educated with a good paying job, shows that he has social and cultural knowledge and understanding. If he also at the same time has a semi-permanent life in Moldova; then yes, then will the 45 to 65 year old western middle-aged male tourist be well on the way. And again must you remember that it is the family and husband / long-term boyfriend who are young Moldovan women's social security and social safety net. If the young Moldovan women (18 to 25 years old) believe you are willing to start a long-term relationship with her, is it also central that she perceive you as a "kind man, easy going man, strong man, stable man, a good provider and a good father to her future children". It is important that you have a good social status, and you have good ability to create trust and a safe environment. If all these mentioned factors are met, is it my personally experience that you as a western 50+ middle-aged male tourist do have a good base and starting point to start a long-term relationship that include sex with a young Moldovan woman (18 to 25 years old).
Another common mistakes some western people do make are that they overrate the value of a western passport, so they believe that young Moldovan girls by themselves will run over to the middle-aged western male tourist when he arrive to Moldova, and that he in this way easily will achieve to be the lover and fuck-buddy to young Moldovan women for one or two holidays (in Moldova) without giving her some kind of benefits, but only have her as a short-term holiday girlfriend (for one or two holidays) in a totally free way as a totally freebie girlfriend. After my opinion do this kind of "sex haven paradise" not exist in Moldova, I think it will be very difficult for the 50+ western male tourists to have this kind of relationship to nice young 18 to 25 years old Moldovan women. When we talk about western passport is also important to remember that many young Moldovan women already them self have western (Romanian) passport.
Please also remember that Moldova is no miracle cure for the shy men. If you is a 50+ man who was "good to meet women" while you was young, then you most likely also will be "good to meet young women" in Moldova if you make the list of requirements. But if you are a 50+ man who was "bad to meet women" while you was young. Then you are at risk also to be "bad to meet young women" in Moldova. Then it is necessary that you adjust your strategy in Moldova after that you are a shy and cautious man. If you are a shy, cautious and moderate conservative man who are looking after a good traditional young woman with "good values" who can be your wife, then it is very important to notices that Moldova is no miracle cure where you easy can find this type of girl on Internet. This will normally demand hard work inside Moldova in a long time (maybe years) to find this kind of young Moldovan women. Remember also that Moldova is an insider country for new commers. But please also remember that we (a western middle-age 45 to 65 years old male tourist) find young Moldovan long-term girlfriends in Moldova, both because of the experience of positive cultural differences and cultural enrichment, but also because that we in Moldova can find and get better young long-term girlfriends, then we can find and get in our western home country. It is the combination of these two factors that make everything worthwhile, when you consider the trouble and work with having and finding a young Moldovan long-term girlfriend.
One more time would I like to say that the central factors and requirements are that the middle-aged western male tourist want a long-term relationship, are a stabile, kind, reliable, tolerant person who is giving her a long rope, trustworthy and credible person and a good provider with a good health, is well educated with a good paying job, has social and cultural knowledge and understanding. If all this is the case will many 18 to 35 years young Moldovan women most likely accept age gaps with 20 to 45 year differences. So it is most likely possible for a 50+ western man to find a young 18 to 25 year old Moldovan woman as his long-term girlfriend. This is at least my personally experience. It is also my personally experience that her family and friends most likely will accept you if you meets the factors and requirements I just have mentioned. You will most likely not get a lot of shit or hear something negative from her family and friends. The fact is that many young Moldovan women are under-serviced in the dating market if they only want kind men, stable men, a good father to her future children and a good provider who actually want long-term relations with the young Moldovan girl. Of many reasons do young Moldovan women outnumber good Moldovan males, which is plus for western male tourist. All this means that if you as a 50+ western male tourist make the list of requirements will you most likely could find a young 18 to 25 year old Moldovan woman as your long-term girlfriend.
There may be elements in your environment in Moldova or in your western home country that think the age gap is too big and does not think it's natural that a 50+ western man have a young 18 to 25 years young Moldovan woman as his long-term girlfriend. For example may there be criticism from some men who both are jealousy and envy and from some women who believe the man has bought and paid for the young Moldovan woman and consider your relationship as a case of long-term prostitution. Some western women can also react with jealousy and aggressiveness towards young EE and young FSU women who are together with western middle-age men with a good status. Some western men and women will even say that it is only male loser-men who travel to Moldova and get and find young Moldovan long-term girlfriends in Moldova. Personally do I think that this kind of argument is total rubbish and nonsense that can only be regarded as garbage, because you also need to remember that also young Moldovan women love male winners, and they do not like male losers, just like western women. One of many reasons, why young Moldovan women love male winner who meet the list of requirements, are because she wants to be proud when she introduces you to her friends and family. Most likely will there always be someone envious on you, if you as a 50+ middle-age western man have a long-term relationship with an 18 to 25 year young Moldovan woman. Some men and women will maybe get pissed and try to take you down. Depending about the situation can it be a good idea to have discretion. But I think you only shall care very little about what other people think about your relationship with young Moldovan long-term girlfriend. The most important thing is that you feel comfortable with your relationship. You pick up a young Moldovan long-term girlfriend because you like her and the relationship fits you. You have not chosen a young Moldovan long-term girlfriend because it's a trend or something you is "supposed" to do. I believe that it is important that we do not end up as weak men, who just abide by what some other people say, because if we do so, will we most likely just end under other peoples domination. If you are a 50+ middle-age western man who meet the list of requirements (economically, socially, status, long-term relation, semi-permanent living in Moldova and so on) can I only say, why not use the opportunities and explore the possibilities for meeting young Moldovan women and start long-term relationship with them. It could be that there was one 18 to 25 years young Moldovan woman who was waiting to meet you. There is no reason just to sit at home and think life is finish and feel that you are in some kind of mid-life crisis.
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12-03-13 21:47 #17
Streaptise clubs
Guys,
Keep your money and stay far from this clubs.
Essi
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03-26-13 09:56 #16
For the "first time male tourist" who is looking after Moldovan women, part 13
I have decide that I will make a series of reports about Moldova, where the target group is the 50+ "first time male tourist" who is thinking about coming to Moldova and meet Moldovan women.
I am private person, so I will only write in generally. I will never post photo of girls I meet in Moldova. Because personally do I think this is part of the girl and my private life. I do not want to make it public on Internet. In many ways are I am a private person. Because I am private person, do I only write in generally, and there will be no photos of women I have met. But I have been many times in Moldova, so I think I have some "know-how" about Moldova.
I am not putting photo on Internet. Instead is I am doing that I am willing to personally at meet with other men from ISG Moldova Forum in Moldova, when I myself are in Moldova. In the past 8 years have I met with 8 friends from ISG Moldova forum. All 8 meetings have been very nice and it has been very good to share experience about women in Moldova, and drink a good drink together. All 8 meeting was in Chisinau.
How can you know if my "expert principle" will work? You can not know. Of course can I not provide a guarantee for success. I can just say that I personally after visiting Moldova many times in the last 10 years, have I in the last 4 years meet and "have action with" more young 18 to 29 old Moldovan women, then I did in a 4 years period while I was a young man (and meet young women in my home country). It has been odd and a bit strange for me to experience this as a 50+ old man. In the last 4 years period in Moldova, have I had 2 long-term girlfriends in Chisinau, and I am still together with the last one. My current long-term girlfriend is 20 years old. I did meet her while she was 18 years old. I am a 50+ man. So for me, have my "expert principle" worked very well. Every year do I several time visit Moldova, and every time I am in Moldova is it very nice to meet my long-term Moldovan girlfriend again. I very much like Chisinau, and I do always have a good time in Chisinau.
I have decide to create a new user thread with the name "For the first time male tourist who is looking after Moldovan women", and then put together all my reports in my series. The first 12 parts in this series of reports have I already have made public in this thread.
Just now have I am in 2 reports in this series looking at different aspect related to dating with Moldovan women. In my 2 next reports (in my series) will I first look at, in what kind of relationships, do I think Moldova is strong and weak, and then will I talk about different aspect related to how to keep the Moldovan women you have as a long-term girlfriend; I think this is an important goal.
I can strongly recommend that you take your time to make many "face to face" meeting in Chisinau with western male friends from ISG-Moldova, and simply exchange your experience about Moldovan women with other ISG male friends, and also listen to how they (the other ISG-men) are "working" with Moldovan women, and in return tell them how you are "working" with Moldovan women. My personally experience is that this kind of "face to face" meeting gives a lot. All my "face to face" meeting with ISG friends have been very nice and it has it has been very good to sit and drink a beer together and share experiences about Moldovan women.
(TommyFranks in Thread: General Info (Moldova).02-03-13)
It is important to understand that there essentially only are 2 options that work well in Moldova for the 50+ Western male tourist, when we talk about young 18 – 25 years old Moldovan women. Where option 1 is to have serious long-term relationship where you want to married your young Moldovan girlfriend in a 1 to 2 year timeframe. The second option is to have a long-term relationship with the young Moldovan women that include a sponsor element. The sponsor element can be of all kind; it shall just make it possible for her to get some kind of benefits where she in some ways can extract resources. So it can be all kind of "help", for example from finding a very good job to her in Chisinau, ensure that she get a promotion at her work, give her some money every month, ensure that she get a good exams at her university, pay the rent for her apartment or room, pay her university fee, gifts, presents or several tourist trips abroad every year. It is important that you also have the desire and time to visit Moldova several times in a year. It is central that the Moldovan girls perceive you (a western male tourist) as a good provider and a stable, reliable, trustworthy and credible person who speaks the truth. You must remember that Moldova do not have a European welfare state. So it is the family and husband / long-term boyfriend who are young Moldovan women's social security and social safety net. Among other things is this one of the reasons that it is important that the young Moldovan girl perceive you (a western male tourist) as a good provider who want to make some kind of long-term commit to her and perceive you as a stable, reliable, trustworthy and credible person who speaks the truth. It is also a great advantage if you have some kind of permanent presence in Moldova. This can be done in different ways, with much different kind of "permanent presences" in Moldova including semi-permanent presence in Chisinau, where you are coming 3 to 4 times every year to Chisinau, Moldova. My personally experience is that this kind of semi-permanent presence in Chisinau will work well. Originally Posted by TommyFranks
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It will be difficult for the 50+ Western male tourists to make many totally free one-night stands with young 18 to 25 years old Moldovan women where you not are giving her some kind of benefits like for example money, presents, promise of later marriage, promise of serious relationship with engagement and later possible marriage. The problem is that there in Moldova is no know totally free lunch when we talk about 18 to 25 years young women in Moldova and 50+ Western male tourists.
(Nolies. 05-29-09)
But even when we talk about the kind of one-night stands where you are giving her some kind of benefits as for example money, do I not think that Moldova can compete with Cuba, Thailand and Philippines. In general do I think it is much easier to make this kind of one-night stands in these 3 countries compare with Moldova. You can ask me, will it not be possible to attracted young Moldovan women in a disco, with suggesting financial help to the young Moldovan woman for a night? Yes, some few young Moldovan women in a disco could be. The problem is that all is very much hidden, so it can be difficult to find the young Moldovan women in the disco. The young Moldovan women will be a mix of pro, semi-pro and amateur non-pro. But because it is so hidden, will it not be easy to find the young Moldovan women at the disco (maybe except at Deja Vu). And to be frank, there are many countries where it will be easier to attract a woman by financial help for a night at some special "clubs" compare with Moldova. Please also read also the quote from Viking30 I have put just below. Originally Posted by Nolies
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(Viking30, 10-18-2009)
It will also be difficult for the 50+ Western male tourists to put him in a position where he is the lover and fuckbuddy to young Moldovan women without giving her some kind of benefits. In this context could the benefits for example be marriage in a 1 to 2 year timeframe, promise of serious relationship with engagement and later possible marriage, sponsorship, sponsor elements, gifts, presents or tourist trips abroad. What also can be difficult to achieve is to get a long-term boyfriend / girlfriend relationship with a young Moldovan women where you (a 50+ Western male tourists) just is the boyfriend, fuckbuddy and lover and where you not are "helping" her (for example sponsorship, sponsor elements, gifts, presents, work, promotion, or tourist trips abroad) and you also not have promise to married her in a 1 to 2 year timeframe or promise her a very serious relationship with engagement and later possible marriage. Of course can you achieve much if you are very good in relation to factors such as appearance, style, refinement, cultural awareness, charm and game. But even in this case do I think it will be difficult if you not are using one of the 2 options I have mentioned above. At least in the cases where you are a 50+ western male tourist who want to deal with nice young 18 to 25 years old Moldovan women. You most also not forget that there in Chisinau is a widespread "sex tourist paranoia", so many Moldovan women will think that a Western male tourist is a sex tourist. Moldovan women do simply not like to be "fuck and forgotten". So if you are a foreigner male tourist is it very important that the Moldovan girls perceive you (a western male tourist) as a stabile, reliable, trustworthy and credible person. Moldova is very much an insider's country, and it makes things much more difficult if you are a "first time" male tourist. For this reason, will things be easier for you when you have visited Moldova regularly for a 2 to 3 year period. Originally Posted by Viking30
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(Nolies, telling about Moldovan women)
(Assimil. 05-14-2010. In the quote does he talk about the situation in Moldova.) Originally Posted by Nolies
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(Assimil. 09-22-2009. In the quote does he talk about the situation in Moldova.) Originally Posted by Assimil
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Of many reasons do young Moldovan women more dream about finding a rich local Moldovan man than a middle-aged or old Western male tourist. This can make it a little difficult to meet the young absolute top 10 Moldovan girls, if you are a middle-aged or old Western male tourist. Originally Posted by Assimil
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If you are a 50+ western man with good health, good social skills, good cultural skills, good education, good job, and have a lot of time you can spend in Moldova, good wages / salaries, good personal finance, and you also are a stabile, reliable, honest, responsible, caring, trustworthy and credible person. If you are in that situation will you have excellent opportunities in Moldova. If you are willing to used one of the 2 options I mentioned above, when we talk about young women in Moldova. If you intend doing this, has young Moldovan women (18 to 35 years old) one big advantage, they are willing to accept an age difference of 20, 30 or 40 years, so it is possible for a 50+ Western man to find a young 18 to 25 year old Moldovan women as his long-term girlfriend. This shall compares with the situation in many Western countries, where the same type of Western man typically only can find western women who are up to 10 to 15 years younger than himself, if he wants a Western woman as his long-term girlfriend. Young Moldovan women can be very pragmatic. They are looking after a kind man, a stable man, a good provider, a good father to her future children, and a good long-term boyfriend and husband. If he is found among 50+ Western men, so yes let it be, and then is he the "chosen" man.
The fact is that many young Moldovan women are under-serviced in the dating market if they only want kind men, stable men, a good father to her future children and a good provider who actually want long-term relations with the young Moldovan girl. Of many reasons do young Moldovan women outnumber good Moldovan males, which is plus for western male tourist. All this means that even if you are "too old" or "too black" will you as a 50+ man most likely could get a young 18 to 25 years Moldovan long-term girlfriend if you have a good health, good social skills, good cultural skills, good education, good job, have a lot of time you can spend in Moldova, good wages / salaries, good personal finance and you also are a stabile, reliable, trustworthy and credible person.
On the other hand shall you notices that many young Moldovan women are over-serviced in the dating market when we talk about one-night stand sex with young good looking but unserious men, or bad provider man, or already married men. This mean that even with these good opportunities in Moldova, do you need to make a hard work to get a young Moldovan long-term girlfriend, and you will still have problems with "sex tourist paranoia" in Chisinau.
The problems are also that the 18-25 year old young Moldovan women know that she in this age is in her best years. This means that these years should in no way be wasted by making a series of "stupid" one-night stands with men who not are a "kind man, stable man, a good father to her future children and a good provider". No, these years will be used to find a good serious long-term boyfriend, who is "kind man, stable man, a good father to her future children and a good provider". He shall be a good serious long-term boyfriend with a good socio-economic status. You must remember that Moldova in many ways still is a traditional country, where the population still has the opinion that the man is the head of the household and it is more the men's task to bring money to the family and household. That this still is the case has been conforming of a sociological study made of Soros Foundation – Moldova in 2012.
(Defence. 08-22-2007)
(BrasilSoccer0, 08-06-2012) Originally Posted by Defence
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I do also very much agree with my very good friend BrasilSoccer0 in his opinion that Moldova not is a p4p country. I do also think that Moldova much more is a country for long-term serious or semi-serious relationships. Originally Posted by BrasilSoccer0
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One important weak point with Moldova is the quite high level of problems with scam-girls, party girls and gold-digger. Western male tourists can easily meet problems in this area. This is especially true for "first time" male tourists.
If the young 18 to 25 years young Moldovan women have 1 or 2 "normally" relationship behind her, can it be a plus for you. Because then she will have more realistic expectations to you and her relationship with you. She knows quite simply more about how a man behaves, and what a woman can expect from a man. She will also in this situation know that in Moldova is it difficult for a young Moldovan woman to find a good long-term boyfriend and later husband who is a "kind man, stable man, a good father to her future children and a good provider". This will make it easier for you. And you shall still remember, that it looks like the situation in Moldova is that many young 18 to 35 years old Moldovan women are willing to have long-term relationship including sex with 40 to 69 years old western men if they in return can get attention, care, social security, social safety net, social status and a long-term perspective on the relationship.
I will end this report with a very good quote from PedroToronja where he in a very good way describe the different between being a good high status young man and then being a good high status 40+ or 50+ or 60+ western man when we are talking about ours and yours possibilities in relationship to young FSU women.
(PedroToronja from 01-22-2013 in Kiev thread)
Originally Posted by PedroToronja
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03-01-13 06:18 #15
Photos in reports
Essi, because you do mention my name in your report, did I guess that it is a criticism of me when you talk about photos in reports. I am surprise over your criticism, after we in the last 3 years have met 2 times in Chisinau, Moldova. I think it was very nice to meet you in Chisinau, and I hope to meet you again in Chisinau in 2013. I am coming to Moldova in the last week of March, just around Easter. If you also are in Chisinau around Easter do I hope that we can meet for a drink. Originally Posted by Essi
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About photos do I have one total principle, I never put photo of people I have met including girlfriends on Internet. That is an absolute principle, because I want to protect privacy for me and my friends including girlfriends. I am sorry but this is a principle I have in relation to all types of websites including facebook, because I want to protect privacy for me and my friends. Instead are I am doing that I am willing to personally at meet with other men from ISG Moldova Forum in Moldova, when I myself are in Moldova. In the past 8 years have I met with 8 friends from ISG Moldova forum. All 8 meetings had been very nice.
If you like to meet my girlfriend are I open to make a double date with you and your girlfriend and me and my girlfriend. We can make this kind of double date in Chisinau. I did read in the other thread that you just have got a new girlfriend.
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I did think it was very interesting to read what EastGoing did think was missing in the Moldova thread, that it is why I did choose to put up the 2 quote from him in the end of this report. Originally Posted by EastGoing
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Dexa
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02-24-13 15:35 #14
Photos
Guys / mongers.
After reading all this posts and follow the advices dexa wrote here, me and Jackson will be happy if you will contribute you real image and photo's.
As long time wasn't a new photo sent so please do it. Don't forget!
Essi
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02-23-13 22:44 #13
For the "first time male tourist" who is looking after Moldovan women, part 12
I have decide that I will make a series of reports about Moldova, where the target group is the 50+ "first time male tourist" who is thinking about coming to Moldova and meet Moldovan women.
I am private person, so I will only write in generally. I will never post photo of girls I meet in Moldova. Because personally do I think this is part of the girl and my private life. I do not want to make it public on Internet. In many ways are I am a private person. Because I am private person, do I only write in generally, and there will be no photos of women I have met. But I have been many times in Moldova, so I think I have some "know-how" about Moldova.
I am not putting photo on Internet. Instead is I am doing that I am willing to personally at meet with other men from ISG Moldova Forum in Moldova, when I myself are in Moldova. In the past 8 years have I met with 8 friends from ISG Moldova forum. All 8 meetings have been very nice and it has been very good to share experience about women in Moldova, and drink a good drink together. All 8 meeting was in Chisinau.
How can you know if my "expert principle" will work? You can not know. Of course can I not provide a guarantee for success. I can just say that I personally after visiting Moldova many times in the last 10 years, have I in the last 4 years meet and "have action with" more young 18 to 29 old Moldovan women, then I did in a 4 years period while I was a young man (and meet young women in my home country). It has been odd and a bit strange for me to experience this as a 50+ old man. In the last 4 years period in Moldova, have I had 2 long-term girlfriends in Chisinau, and I am still together with the last one. My current long-term girlfriend is 20 years old. I did meet her while she was 18 years old. I am a 50+ man. So for me, have my "expert principle" worked very well. Every year do I several time visit Moldova, and every time I am in Moldova is it very nice to meet my long-term Moldovan girlfriend again. I very much like Chisinau, and I do always have a good time in Chisinau.
I have decide to create a new user thread with the name "For the first time male tourist who is looking after Moldovan women", and then put together all my reports in my series. The first 12 parts in this series of reports have I already have made public in the Chisinau thread. There may be a few small correction compared with the original report (this is itself one correction).
Just now is I am in several reports in this series looking at different aspect related to dating with Moldovan women. In this report will I look different aspect related to how to make good impression on the Moldovan women you are dating. This is an important goal so I will write a more about this goal.
(Quote from Hedonist. 12-02-07, Thread: Kiev. It is about Ukraine women, but I think it also can correct for Moldovan women)
(Quote from Nolies. 03-30-09. He talks about Moldovan women in this quote) Originally Posted by Hedonist
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You must not forget that Western men have many advantages. Western men are in general modern, educated men with a good job. Many western men are also stable men. All this is a big plus. But just as in Ukraine do some Moldovan women also perceive Western men as boring and weak, and some Moldovan women do simply not respect western men. So the big challenge for the western man is to combine so he at the same time both on one hand are a nice, good and kind man, and on the other hand simultaneously also are being a strong man who knows what he wants, and know how to get it. Originally Posted by Nolies
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So went you meet a Moldovan girl at a date shall you try to do this:
1) Be cautious about drinking on the first date.
2) Remember to thank the Moldovan women for the date and give compliment to the Moldovan girl. Good manners are always a good thing.
3) Enjoy yourself, be relaxed. If you're easygoing and fun to be around will it normally give a great impression, remember to smile and talk with the Moldovan girl. Moldovan girls who show up to a date are generally friendly and kind.
4) Moldovan women like men who are kind, tender and gentle men, but at the same time shall you be a strong man who from the start is the boss in the relationship. You shall also be a strong man who knows what you want, and know how to get what you want. Moldovan women love when the man is being proactive and the leader.
5) Moldovan women do care about your socio-economic situation, so it is a good idea to tell them about your job and work. If you are prepare to "help your girlfriend", can it also a good idea to short to suggest this, but you shall not be too precise about this, because you must avoid attracting female gold-digger,"400 euro sponsor girls", party girls and scam-girls.
6) Tell a little bit about your plans in relation to Moldova, for example, do you plan to start business in Moldova, or are you planning to move to Moldova when you retire.
7) Show the Moldovan girl your qualities but in an indirect way. You can even make a little fun of yourself. Moldovan girls love men who are successful but at the same time do they not like if you brag too much about your successes.
8) It is important that you are educated, charismatic and modern. Moldovan women do not like male rednecks.
9) Listen actively to what your Moldovan women say. Ask questions to the Moldovan woman, Many Moldovan women love to talk and many Moldovan women love men who listen to what they are saying.
10) While you have the date shall you make flirt with the Moldovan women, for examples can you make small body contact with the Moldovan girl. It can also sometimes be a good idea to end the date with having a nice walk with the Moldovan girl in for example the park or just at the street. Remember that Moldovan women as other women also love to be loved and needs to be needed.
11) If you are sexually interested in the Moldovan girl, is it a good idea to ask her, if she wants "a drink" home at your apartment. Remember to be polite, friendly and natural when you ask her. For them, is it a sign of confidence that you ask her about this. I have never met a Moldovan woman who got angry because I ask. Remember that Moldovan girls hate to be "fuck and forgotten", so they are also carefully on this issue. So you can risk that she say "no" to you, even she was happy that you ask her.
12) Moldovan women like small present like flowers, a rose, perfume and makeup, so it can be a god idea to sometimes bring a little present like this with you to the date.
I will stop this report now.
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02-23-13 22:13 #12
For the "first time male tourist" who is looking after Moldovan women, part 11
I have decide that I will make a series of reports about Moldova, where the target group is the 50+ "first time male tourist" who is thinking about coming to Moldova and meet Moldovan women.
I am private person, so I will only write in generally. I will never post photo of girls I meet in Moldova. Because personally do I think this is part of the girl and my private life. I do not want to make it public on Internet. In many ways are I am a private person. Because I am private person, do I only write in generally, and there will be no photos of women I have met. But I have been many times in Moldova, so I think I have some "know-how" about Moldova.
I am not putting photo on Internet. Instead is I am doing that I am willing to personally at meet with other men from ISG Moldova Forum in Moldova, when I myself are in Moldova. In the past 8 years have I met with 8 friends from ISG Moldova forum. All 8 meetings have been very nice and it has been very good to share experience about women in Moldova, and drink a good drink together. All 8 meeting was in Chisinau.
How can you know if my "expert principle" will work? You can not know. Of course can I not provide a guarantee for success. I can just say that I personally after visiting Moldova many times in the last 10 years, have I in the last 4 years meet and "have action with" more young 18 to 29 old Moldovan women, then I did in a 4 years period while I was a young man (and meet young women in my home country). It has been odd and a bit strange for me to experience this as a 50+ old man. In the last 4 years period in Moldova, have I had 2 long-term girlfriends in Chisinau, and I am still together with the last one. My current long-term girlfriend is 20 years old. I did meet her while she was 18 years old. I am a 50+ man. So for me, have my "expert principle" worked very well. Every year do I several time visit Moldova, and every time I am in Moldova is it very nice to meet my long-term Moldovan girlfriend again. I very much like Chisinau, and I do always have a good time in Chisinau.
I have decide to create a new user thread with the name "For the first time male tourist who is looking after Moldovan women", and then put together all my reports in my series. The first 12 parts in this series of reports have I already have made public in the Chisinau thread. There may be a few small correction compared with the original report (this is itself one correction).
Just now is I am in several reports in this series looking at different aspect related to dating with Moldovan women. In this report will I look at different aspect related to the concrete situation when you make a date with a Moldovan woman.
(Nolies. 10-11-06)
(Felix Nordic. 11-28-06) Originally Posted by Nolies
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Often have you got a telephone number from Internet chat and you call the girl and made a date with her. In this case is there a risk that the Moldovan women will not show up to the date. I have personally expired that some Moldovan girls can not keep times and appointments and they sometimes are not coming to dates and appointments. I have often thought about why this happen. I guess that there are many reasons. I guess that some girls want to meet western men, but when they have made a date with a western man, do they get nervous and end up with not coming to the date. I have also been thinking that some girls maybe are busy with meeting many men or simply very busy with work and housework. Many young Moldovan women do still live home together with there father and mother, and I guess, that this also sometimes can give girls problems with keeping times and appointments. Another main reason to this problem is if the girl does not speak English at all, and you do not speak Russian or Romanian. In this case will the Moldovan girl typical try to find a girlfriend who speaks English. If she not can find a girlfriend who speak English will she most likely not show up to the date, because she in this case will be nervous about how the date shall go if she not speak English and you not speak Russian or Romanian. So one way to reduce the number of girls who does not show up to the date is simply only to make date with girls who at least speak some little English or alternative to say to the non-English speaking women that you will take a friend with you, who can make translation while you have the date. At last must you also not forget that some girls, who make chat on Internet, are "chat junkies" who only just want to make chat and do not have an intension about meeting you at the date. Originally Posted by Felix Nordic
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It is a very good idea at the first date, to bring the girl to a simple place, and drink a cop of coffee or drink a drink with her and have a little talk with her. Maybe you also can have a little dinner or lunch with her. Do not use a lot of money on the first date. Bring her to simple places like McDonald, Andy Pizza, Café inside Jumbo, café outside Elat, or other places like these places. I know it is easier to say then do, but it is a very good idea. Moldova is a very difficult place, for the first time western male tourist. You simply risk using a lot of money and time and simply getting no sex, if you make your first date on an expensive place. Party girls will simple love it, but you will still only get "no sex" from a party girl. It is my personally experience that most Moldovan women are very happy with places like McDonald, Andy Pizza, Café inside Jumbo or café outside Elat.
Typical will Moldovan women use the dating situation to find if you have one of these 6 typical goal with her:
1) Do you want to married her. Here are we talking about a short 1 year timeframe for the wedding to happen.
2) Are you looking after a long-term girlfriend where you also in some ways are "helping" your girlfriend.
3) Are you looking for a "sex for money" relationship, including one-night stand with a "sex for money" plan.
4) Are you looking after a long-term girlfriend in what you can call a "freebee relationship" where you not are "helping" your girlfriend.
5) Are you looking after free one-night stands (freebee).
6) Are you willing to make a long series with dates on expenses restaurants and disco.
A western man should use the dating situation to achieve 5 goals. First he shall use the dating to make a screening of the women he meets, so he can deselect all the party girls, scam-girls and gold-digger. This is important to do this. For the second shall he also use the dating to find out to what extent the Moldovan woman's goals match the goals he has. It could be elements like how active a sex life should there be, shall it be short term or long term relationship, shall there be a sponsor element in the long-term relationship or not, and so on. Goal number 3 is that he shall get an impression of the Moldovan woman's personality and goal number 4 is that he shall find out if the Moldovan woman is a "Green Card Girl". The last fifth goal is to find out if she is a "400 euro sponsor girl".
About goal number one, to find out if the women is a party girl, party girls, scam-girls and golddigger. Then the easiest thing to do when you made date, is to bring the girl to a simple place cheap place, as I have mention before in this report. If the girl reacts in positive and good way is it a good indicator that she not is a party girl. About scam-girl and gold-digger shall you hear and look very carefully if she in a direct or in an indirectly way tries to come with suggestion that you in some way shall help her with a lot of money. This can be a good indicator that she is a gold-digger and scam-girl. Unfortunately is it often first later when you are in the relationship with her that you find out if she is a gold-digger and scam-girl.
(Flix Nordic. 05-07-06)
In the quote above does Felix Nordic give a good example on how a party girl actual work. How they try getting money from male tourist and off course "no sex". Originally Posted by Felix Nordic
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In this quote above does Felix Nordic give a good example on how a scam girl actual work. How they try getting money and present from male tourist with giving big BS promise to the male tourist. Off course does she not keep her promise and only thing the male tourist is getting is "an empty wallet" and "no sex". Please note the typical layout of the scam; the woman promises a lot, the man believe the woman's promises, giving her a lot of money and / or gifts. Women keep naturally not her promises, and runs far away, so the man can not come in contact with her. Originally Posted by Felix Nordic
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About goal number two, to find out to what extent the Moldovan woman's goals match the goals he has, is just to say that I sometimes need to make directly talk find out if this is the case. All will depend of the situation. You shall notice one problem. It is my personally experience that Moldovan women can be very tactical, so it actual can take me very long time before I actual have found out what intension the Moldovan women did have. I have often only found out what intension the Moldovan women did have, after I have made sex with the Moldovan women. This have lead to the screening process and goals match process both can be very time consuming and burdensome, and make it necessary to meet and "have action with" several Moldovan women before I have found a good long-term girlfriend.
About goal number 3 is it important to try to find out if the Moldovan girl is a nice, tender, lovely, kind, sweet, simple, open-minded, relaxed, well-balanced, honest and easy-going women. But of course shall you also try to find if the women you are dating is a heartless woman, rudely aggressive, lying and telling lies, manipulative, emotionally unstable, big drinker who drinks a lot, has big mood swings, cold personality. All this can put up the red flags. Other factors who I also think can set some red flags, are if the girl not have been working or studying in long period (1 or 2 years). Another factor that can set up a red flag is if she without you has asked her, begins to talk hateful and says horrible things about her exes (former boyfriends or former husband). This can also put up a red flag in my book.
About goal number 4 that is to find out if the Moldovan woman is a "Green Card Girl". This is a very difficult goal. The problem with "Green Card Girl" is that it is a very a very serious and dangerous kind of scam, where the Moldovan women pretend that she love you and want to married you in a one year time frame. The problem is that she from day one plan to divorce you when she has got her citizenship or permanent "green card" in the new country. A "Green Card Girl" can be the beginning of a nightmare for you. There can be some warning signs, but I must also admit that I am not an expert in the "Green Card Girl" problem. But some of the warning signs could be:
- If she insist on a very quick married, and will not accept that you have a boyfriend – girlfriend relationship in at least a 2 to 3 year period, even if you offer to "help her" in this period.
- If she very much want quickly to move to your home country.
- If the Moldovan women have several (2, 3 or 4) divorce behind her.
- If you not are introduced to her friends and / or you not are introduced to her family.
- If you pick a woman off a dating and marriage web site especially made for western men in English can this increase the risk for her being a "Green Card Girl". The same problem can also occur if you pick a woman off a sex-chat-porn web site.
- If you find out that she still is meeting her "former" boyfriend. This could mean big problems.
When you made the date shall you also try to find out if she is a "400 euro sponsor girl". With this do I mean that she demand very big "help" from you, and want that you help her with something like 400 to 500 euro every month. First at all is this level (400 to 500 euro every month) a stupid high level, which is not at all necessary. A normally level would be 100 to 300 euro every month (all inclusive). The problem with the 400 to 500 euro level is that attracts the wrong type of Moldovan women (party girls, scam-girls and gold-digger). A type of Moldovan women who very easily can transform your relationship into a "living hell", and you end up with a relationship with no GFE and only having a "bad" time.
Please notices that even if you begin a long-term relationship with a young Moldovan women where you only give a moderate level of "help" (100 to 300 euro every month) and you have a good relationship with good GFE, can there be a risk that the relationship in its final phase before it end, can degenerate to an empty shell where the Moldovan girl tried to run an "end phase" scam. With this do I mean, that after maybe a 1 to 3 year period with a good time and a lot of GFE, begins the Moldovan woman to think that you are stupid and boring. This is typically indicated and shown by that she suddenly begin to have a lot of excuses for not being together with you when you are in Chisinau, Moldova. The excuses can be all, from strictly necessary family trip to Tiraspol, the grandmother's illness, to long-planned vacation with friends in Odessa. These excuses will often have the character of BS stories. Normally would a woman in this situation quickly drop the relationship, but the "end phase" scam is simply that the Moldovan woman do not want to drop the relationship because of the "help" (100 to 300 euro every month) , instead, will she continue to make excuses for not being together with you and she'll be still less and less together with you. In some cases, can the Moldovan woman even think of just leaving from you without first talking with you about it and she will not pick up the phone when you try to call her. You would first get an explanation when she comes back to Chisinau. Her goal is obvious that she can continue to receive your "help" without the need for her to be together with you. If you think you are the victim of an "end phase" scam is it very important that you have a serious talk with your long-term girlfriend. If the problems after the talk still continue can it simply be necessary that you end the relationship. You should not expect that she suddenly become "reasonable" and she herself ends the relationship. I have personally been in situations where I have had a suspicion about being victims of an "end phase" scam and I know it is not an easy situation. Sometimes does a Moldovan girl also start an "end phase" scam if she comes to the conclusion that you do not want to married her and have children with her. Some Moldovan women can have strong reactions on this issue.
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02-23-13 21:51 #11
For the "first time male tourist" who is looking after Moldovan women, part 10
I have decide that I will make a series of reports about Moldova, where the target group is the 50+ "first time male tourist" who is thinking about coming to Moldova and meet Moldovan women.
I am private person, so I will only write in generally. I will never post photo of girls I meet in Moldova. Because personally do I think this is part of the girl and my private life. I do not want to make it public on Internet. In many ways are I am a private person. Because I am private person, do I only write in generally, and there will be no photos of women I have met. But I have been many times in Moldova, so I think I have some "know-how" about Moldova.
I am not putting photo on Internet. Instead is I am doing that I am willing to personally at meet with other men from ISG Moldova Forum in Moldova, when I myself are in Moldova. In the past 8 years have I met with 8 friends from ISG Moldova forum. All 8 meetings have been very nice and it has been very good to share experience about women in Moldova, and drink a good drink together. All 8 meeting was in Chisinau.
How can you know if my "expert principle" will work? You can not know. Of course can I not provide a guarantee for success. I can just say that I personally after visiting Moldova many times in the last 10 years, have I in the last 4 years meet and "have action with" more young 18 to 29 old Moldovan women, then I did in a 4 years period while I was a young man (and meet young women in my home country). It has been odd and a bit strange for me to experience this as a 50+ old man. In the last 4 years period in Moldova, have I had 2 long-term girlfriends in Chisinau, and I am still together with the last one. My current long-term girlfriend is 20 years old. I did meet her while she was 18 years old. I am a 50+ man. So for me, have my "expert principle" worked very well. Every year do I several time visit Moldova, and every time I am in Moldova is it very nice to meet my long-term Moldovan girlfriend again. I very much like Chisinau, and I do always have a good time in Chisinau.
I have decide to create a new user thread with the name "For the first time male tourist who is looking after Moldovan women", and then put together all my reports in my series. The first 12 parts in this series of reports have I already have made public in the Chisinau thread. There may be a few small correction compared with the original report (this is itself one correction).
Just now is I am in several reports in this series looking at different aspect related to dating with Moldovan women. In this report will I look different aspect related why Moldovan women are interested in western men?
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In this report do we look at some factors that may contribute to why Moldovan women are interested in western men. Now have Essi in one report made this theory (please see quote above) where he said that there are many more female students compared to the number of male students in Chisinau. In addition, did he say that the difference is so great that it would affect the situation positive for the male tourist who visits Chisinau. I have decided in this report to examine whether this position is true or false. Originally Posted by Essi
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One of the most common misunderstandings is that the main reason to Moldovan women interest in western men is the western men's money or the western men's passport. I disagree, when talk about "normally" women (women who not are prostitute). The main reason why Moldovan women are interested in western men is that there are too few "good" Moldovan men in Moldova. In the last 10 years have I am been talking with many Moldovan women, and common for many of them, is that they had bad experience with the local Moldovan men. They simply have had big problems with finding a "good" Moldovan man. How can it happen that Moldovan women in Chisinau have so difficult to find a "good" local Moldovan man?
First at all does Moldovan men doing badly, when we talk about higher education. Regarding the gender distribution among students, does Moldovan women prevail and Moldovan women share of the total numbers students at higher education was in the education year 2007/08 at 59% compared to 41% for the Moldovan male share. In 2007/2008 was the actual numbers of male and female students respectively 50500 and 72400 students. This means that there are 21900 more female students compared with the number of male students. This is such a big difference, so this may in fact give an advantage to the male tourist who visits Chisinau, Moldova. On top of these problems is it also true that many men in Moldova simple drink all too much. Moldovan women winds "hands up", but at same time is the result that Moldovan women have very difficult to find a "good" local Moldovan man.
Secondly dose it looks like there is a tendency that more Moldovan men emigrate compared with the number of Moldovan women who emigrate from Moldova. Moldova has a massive labour migration, which has pushed around 30 percent of the labour force into working abroad. A good guess is that around 800. 000 persons have emigrated from Moldova. It look like that around 66% of the Moldovan emigrates are men, while only 34% of the Moldovan emigrates are women. The average age of migrants is 34 to 35 years. This would say that the Moldovan women simply have very many good men in a good age because of emigration.
All in all can you say that the emigration from Moldova simply has reduced the "dating pool" of Moldovan men. The socio-economic problems for Moldovan men with lack of education and drinking have further reduced the "dating pool" of "good" Moldovan men. The result has simply been that Moldovan women in Chisinau have big problems with finding a "good" Moldovan man. This has resulted in that Moldova's women do outnumber "good" Moldovan men. The consequences of this are that there's more competition among Moldovan women for those guys. You can say the "sexual market" in Moldova is becoming very competitive with so few "good" Moldovan men. This means that Moldovan women has raise their game, which in Moldova means that Moldovan women have increased there willingness to perform premarital heterosexual sexual relationships. Most likely have Moldovan women also made an increase in premarital sexual partners. It also look like Moldovan women have lowered their demands to the man's age and appearance, which I guess is the reason that it has been possibly for me as a 50+ man to have had several young 18 to 29 years old Moldovan as my long-term girlfriends in the last 5 years. This competitive environment has also increased Moldovan women's desire to meet and date western men. It looks like young Moldovan women because of this competitive environment are willing to have to long-term relationship including sex with 40 to 69 years old western men if they in return can get attention, care, social security, social status and a long-term perspective on the relationship, which would say a long-term relationship which last at least 1 year or more. At least this is my personally experience. You can say that in Moldova do the hard law of supply and demand rule in Moldova's "sexual marked" for men and women.
So in answer to my opening question, what would I say to Essi's claim, which was that there are many more female students compared to the number of male students in Chisinau. In addition, did he say that the difference is so great that it would affect the situation positive for the male tourist who visits Chisinau. In response, would I say, that I actually think his claim quite basically is true. In addition does it also look like the emigration have reduce the number of men in Moldova and this does also look as it has affect the situation positive for the male tourist who visits Chisinau.
Now you must not think that this kind of competitive environment only exist in Moldova. You can just go to USA; on many US College campuses today have women outnumber men. Only 43 percent of American undergraduates today are men. These have resulted in a competitive environment with a "hookup" culture on many US campuses.
I will stop this report now.
PS
List of reference:
CBS-AXA Consultancy, Migration and remittances in Moldova, IOM Chisinau 2005.
Statistica Moldova, women & men in the republic of Moldova, Chisinau 2008.
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02-23-13 21:21 #10
For the "first time male tourist" who is looking after Moldovan women, part 9
I have decide that I will make a series of reports about Moldova, where the target group is the 50+ "first time male tourist" who is thinking about coming to Moldova and meet Moldovan women.
I am private person, so I will only write in generally. I will never post photo of girls I meet in Moldova. Because personally do I think this is part of the girl and my private life. I do not want to make it public on Internet. In many ways are I am a private person. Because I am private person, do I only write in generally, and there will be no photos of women I have met. But I have been many times in Moldova, so I think I have some "know-how" about Moldova.
I am not putting photo on Internet. Instead is I am doing that I am willing to personally at meet with other men from ISG Moldova Forum in Moldova, when I myself are in Moldova. In the past 8 years have I met with 8 friends from ISG Moldova forum. All 8 meetings have been very nice and it has been very good to share experience about women in Moldova, and drink a good drink together. All 8 meeting was in Chisinau.
How can you know if my "expert principle" will work? You can not know. Of course can I not provide a guarantee for success. I can just say that I personally after visiting Moldova many times in the last 10 years, have I in the last 4 years meet and "have action with" more young 18 to 29 old Moldovan women, then I did in a 4 years period while I was a young man (and meet young women in my home country). It has been odd and a bit strange for me to experience this as a 50+ old man. In the last 4 years period in Moldova, have I had 2 long-term girlfriends in Chisinau, and I am still together with the last one. My current long-term girlfriend is 20 years old. I did meet her while she was 18 years old. I am a 50+ man. So for me, have my "expert principle" worked very well. Every year do I several time visit Moldova, and every time I am in Moldova is it very nice to meet my long-term Moldovan girlfriend again. I very much like Chisinau, and I do always have a good time in Chisinau.
I have decide to create a new user thread with the name "For the first time male tourist who is looking after Moldovan women", and then put together all my reports in my series. The first 12 parts in this series of reports have I already have made public in the Chisinau thread. There may be a few small correction compared with the original report (this is itself one correction).
(Prosal. 12-06-11)
(Borderland. 12-06-11) Originally Posted by Prosal
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(Climaxnow. 12-06-11) Originally Posted by Borderland
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(Quote from Nolies. 05-29-09) Originally Posted by Climaxnow
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(Acolonizer. 01-01-12, about women in Ukraine) Originally Posted by Nolies
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(Felix Nordic. 10-12-06) Originally Posted by Acolonizer
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In the next several reports in this series will I look at different aspect related to dating with Moldovan women. In this report will I look at why Moldovan women do not like to make sex with the inexperienced "first time" 50+ western male tourists who are coming to Moldova for his first time. Originally Posted by Felix Nordic
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I think one reason for Moldovan women behavior is because many Western men and Moldovan men only want to make one-night stands with Moldovan women. I have notices that many of the Moldovan girls I have meet actually tell there mother about me. The problem is, that they can not tell there mother that they have been together with 20 western male tourist in one summer, so they choose 1 or 2 tourist. And they will most likely choose the male tourist where they think there is some possibility for a long-term relationship. You can ask why they tell there mother about it, but Chisinau is a city with a lot of talk, and if a girl was together with 20 western men in one summer, would somebody tell the mother about it. So they are very carefully with men where they think there is a big risk that they will drop them "after sex" and only want a one-night-stand. Moldovan women do simply not like to be "fuck and forgotten". Moldovan women do also not like just to be a 1- holyday girlfriend where western male tourist are in a 1 or 2 week holyday in Moldova where he is together with the Moldovan women, but he never return to Moldova. Again because Moldovan women hate to be "fuck and forgotten". This is one major reason why it is difficult for a western middle-age male tourist to meet and make sex with young Moldovan women in his first holyday to Moldova.
You must remember that in the end does the Moldovan girl have as a major goal to get a husband and get children, just like in western countries. This put me to the other major reason. Western men and Moldovan men and Moldovan women in Moldova are obsessed with, if Moldovan girls who are together with western men are prostitute (or not are). I have many times when I was together with a woman in Chisinau city had episode where Moldovan men (unknown men to me) had said "not nice thing" like "she is a prostitute" to the Moldovan woman I was together with. It already happen with my first Moldovan girlfriend many years ago (She is now happy married with a Moldovan man) , and it happen last time in last July (now July 2 years ago) , where I was on a date with a Moldovan women (and that date did not end with sex, and the date was before I met my current long-term girlfriend). I think this is a problem. In general do I think that western men, Moldovan women and Moldovan men in Moldova are all too quick to say that young Moldovan women who are together with western man are a prostitute. For the Moldovan girls are this a big problem, and this problem is also a reason that Moldovan girls are carefully about not being together with too many different western men. They simply want to keep a good reputation, so they can find a good husband and get children. In general are Moldovan girls very interested in western men, so if there is a possibility for some kind of long-term relationship will many of them like to be together with the western man. The long-term relationship does not need to be serious. But there is "no free lunch", so either shall the relationship be very serious with a wedding in a 1 year timeframe, or alternative you find an apartment where you live together with your girlfriend in Chisinau, which makes it necessary for you to move to Chisinau and permanently live in Moldova. Alternative to this kind of serious relationship is that you need to make compensation with some kind of "sponsor element" or other kind of "help" to your girlfriend. The "sponsor element" is the compensation for not being into a "marriage 1 year, fast-track mode". So you can say that "helping your girlfriend" is "paying" for not being into a "marriage 1 year, fast-track mode".
Second do I also help my different long-term girlfriends because I feel a little bit strange, when I go home to a good life in my home country while she is staying in Moldova with only few money to make the living and lives hand-to-mouth, so I simply want to help her a little before I go home.
It is very important to understand that the sponsor element not is the "payment" for making sex with the Moldovan girl (you are not "buying sex") , so you can not use the "sponsor element" as a smart way to make one-night stand with Moldovan women, when we are talking about this group of Moldovan girls. No,"helping your girlfriend" can be used if you already have met a Moldovan girl who wants to have a long-term relationship with you, and you not are into a "marriage 1 year, fast-track mode". The "sponsor element" is simply "your payment" if you not want to make a wedding in a 1 year timeframe. As I did said before is there "no free lunch" if you as a 40 to 69 years old western man want to be together with young 18 to 29 years old Moldovan women. With "helping your girlfriend" are you not "buying sex", but you are instead "buying freedom" to avoid wedding in a 1 year timeframe. The price with "buying freedom" in this way is that the Moldovan girl often will regard the relationship only as a semi-serious relationship. The consequence of this is that there is a big risk that she will drop you, if she find a local Moldovan man who are serious and want to married her and have children with her. Remember the Moldovan women typical end goal is to get married, find a husband and get 1 or 2 children (with the husband). You can say that if you not are into a "marriage 1 year, fast-track mode" and you are "buying your freedom" will there often be a tendency that the Moldovan woman will regard the long-term relationship with you as a "waiting room" until she finds a local Moldovan man who are serious and want to married her and have children with her.
I think the 2 major problems I have been talking about are the main reasons that young Moldovan women not just run to the western man when he arrive to Moldova for the first time.
But there can also be some other reasons. In Moldova do many Moldovan people have Romanian passport, which would say that they do not get impress of a western passport, because they already themselves have an western passport, where they free can travel and live in other European countries. In Moldova is there also an upper class with a lot of money (as in all countries). Other Moldovan people who speak good Russian and have a Russian background have good possibilities to travel to Russia and get a work there. These factors may also contribute as additional reasons for the behavior where those young Moldovan women in Chisinau not just run to the western man when he arrives to Moldova for the first time.
The "dating pool" of Moldovan women who want to make "one night stands" is very little in Chisinau. Most young Moldovan women do prefer long-term relationship, especially if the man is old. The young 18 to 29 years old Moldovan women who are in interested in 40 to 69 years old western men, are Moldovan women who are looking after "social security" and "social status", and they are looking after a long-term boyfriend who can "help them". So it is important that you have a good socio-economic status, a good job and a good education. It is also important that you are willing to give the Moldovan women "social security" and "social status" and it is very important that you are willing to start a long-term relationship with the Moldovan women, and plan to come regular to Moldova. Remember that you are competing with the local rich Moldovan men. All this is doing that it is very important that the Moldovan women perceive you as a trustworthy and credible person who speaks the truth.
All these reasons are doing that it actually make sense, that young Moldovan women in Chisinau not just run to the western man when he arrives to Moldova for the first time.
That does not mean that experienced western male tourist who are coming to Moldova for his first time and speak Romanian and / or Russian does not have a good possibility to meet and "have action with" Moldovan women. This will specially be the case if he in the past has been living many years in Russia, Ukraine or Romania or had been traveling to these countries in many years (10 to 15 years). Moldovan women will like this type of men, even when they arrive to Moldova for there first time. Because there past show that the person feel himself associated with these countries in this region. Some Moldovan girls will think that this increase the possibility that the western man will return to Moldova, which make him a more attractive man seen with Moldovan women's eyes.
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(Viking30, 10-18-09) Originally Posted by Turkiye
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Now, somebody maybe are thinking, that I are BS you, when I say that "helping your girlfriend" is not "buying sex" from your girlfriend. In response would I say, look at Moldova where there in Moldova in general are very few prostitutes. If there were a lot of women willing to "sell sex" would Moldova be much more like Thailand. But I think we all can agree that there is a big different between Moldova and Thailand. In Moldova are there only few women who are "selling sex" to men. But instead are there in Moldova many women who are willing to "selling long-term relationship with" western men, so they can marry and get a wedding with the western man or alternative get a long-term relationship with the western man. In this way can the Moldovan women get "social security" and "social status". You can say that many Moldovan women are willing to "selling long-term relationship with" Western men and the buying price is a wedding or "help to your long-term girlfriend". But is this so different from what many women are doing in many Western countries? Just as in western countries will Moldovan long-term girlfriends also play the emotional packet (sex,"love" and tenderness) in the relationship with the western man. But remember western women do also play the emotional packet (sex,"love" and tenderness) when they have a relationship with a man. Originally Posted by Bluebaloon
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The fact that many Moldovan women are willing to "selling long-term relationship with" western men, but only few Moldovan women are willing to "selling sex" to western men, are making Moldova to a difficult country for the inexperienced "first time" western male tourist.
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02-23-13 20:48 #9
For the "first time male tourist" who is looking after Moldovan women, part 8
I have decide that I will make a series of reports about Moldova, where the target group is the 50+ "first time male tourist" who is thinking about coming to Moldova and meet Moldovan women.
I am private person, so I will only write in generally. I will never post photo of girls I meet in Moldova. Because personally do I think this is part of the girl and my private life. I do not want to make it public on Internet. In many ways are I am a private person. Because I am private person, do I only write in generally, and there will be no photos of women I have met. But I have been many times in Moldova, so I think I have some "know-how" about Moldova.
I am not putting photo on Internet. Instead is I am doing that I am willing to personally at meet with other men from ISG Moldova Forum in Moldova, when I myself are in Moldova. In the past 8 years have I met with 8 friends from ISG Moldova forum. All 8 meetings have been very nice and it has been very good to share experience about women in Moldova, and drink a good drink together. All 8 meeting was in Chisinau.
How can you know if my "expert principle" will work? You can not know. Of course can I not provide a guarantee for success. I can just say that I personally after visiting Moldova many times in the last 10 years, have I in the last 4 years meet and "have action with" more young 18 to 29 old Moldovan women, then I did in a 4 years period while I was a young man (and meet young women in my home country). It has been odd and a bit strange for me to experience this as a 50+ old man. In the last 4 years period in Moldova, have I had 2 long-term girlfriends in Chisinau, and I am still together with the last one. My current long-term girlfriend is 20 years old. I did meet her while she was 18 years old. I am a 50+ man. So for me, have my "expert principle" worked very well. Every year do I several time visit Moldova, and every time I am in Moldova is it very nice to meet my long-term Moldovan girlfriend again. I very much like Chisinau, and I do always have a good time in Chisinau.
I have decide to create a new user thread with the name "For the first time male tourist who is looking after Moldovan women", and then put together all my reports in my series. The first 12 parts in this series of reports have I already have made public in the Chisinau thread. There may be a few small correction compared with the original report (this is itself one correction).
In the past (many years) have there in this forum been 2 groups when we talk about women in Moldova. One group did look as Moldova as a heaven where you easy could meet and have sex whit Moldovan women. Typical representatives of this group are Essi and Prosal. The other group did look as Moldova as a hell where it was very difficult for western male tourist to meet and have sex whit Moldovan women in Chisinau. Often did they also say that many Moldovan women was party girls, gold-digger and scam girls. Typical representatives of this group are George Red and Nolies. In the beginning of 2009 was there an "all out war" between these 2 groups. The "all out war" was so severe and extreme that it also withdrew other people inclusive myself. The "all out war" was a very hot tempered discussion. It did first end when Jackson did start a cleanup process, and simply ask people to stop the "all out war". Now have Prosal 2 times come with hard personally attack on me (after the "all out war") , so I have decide to write a report in this series, where I try to explain the reason to the widely different experiences in Moldova.
Here is one typical quote from the "Moldova many problem group".
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Here is one typical quote from the 'Moldova heaven group'. Originally Posted by Nolies
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Personally will I guess that the two groups never will agree together, but personally do I agree with both groups. If we take my own personally experience with women in Moldova, will I say that both groups are simply describing things that are a part of the reality in Moldova. Personally have I both expire the very good situation where I have meet nice, fun-loving, romantic, charming, well educated, sweet and nice girls. But I have also met the other type of girls, the scam girl, the girl that promises a lot but never keep her promises, the girl that cheat the tourists in Chisinau for sucking money and food drinks and club from western tourist, the girl that simply not act as a normally girl. That fact is simply that all these types of girls exist in Moldova. So we simply have the classic discussion,"is the glass half full" or "is the glass half empty". Originally Posted by Prosal
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For me Moldova is both Heaven (paradise) and a "Hardball" hell place. Heaven, because I personally expire, it possible as a 50+ man to find young nice fun-loving, romantic, charming, well educated, sweet 18 – 29 years old women and make sex with them and have a long time relationship with them. I have tried that in Moldova. And I will guess this is also possible in Belarus, Ukraine and Central Asia, when we a talking about European and FSU country.
Moldova and its "Hell and Hardball" part. Normally do I have long time relationship in Moldova, so I have a lot time where I am "not in the marked" if you understand. And just now is I am "not in the marked" because I have a long-term girlfriend. But when I am "in the marked" must I say; I can see the "Hell and Hardball" part. I simply meet scam girls that try to scam me, party girls that only want sucking money and food, drinks and club from me, and not dream about making sex with me. Unstable girls that promise me all, but never keep there promises, and girls who are not coming to dates and appointments we have made agreement about. And I meet girls who in a hard way try to make my wallet dry.
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As you can see have there been widely different experiences in Moldova. The reasons for this can be discussed. There are many different reasons. I will now list some of the possible reasons. Originally Posted by Acolonizer
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1) There can be personally different where two men can perceive the same situation in two different way. They simply interpret the same situation in two very different ways. The positive way and the negative way. You can simply say that some people are optimistic "is the glass half full" men, who mostly remember the positive part of there experience. While other people are pessimistic "is the glass half empty" men, who mostly remember the negative part of there experience. In this way is the "real" truth open to interpretation. Where some reports maybe are overlooking some crucial things, overemphasizes others factor, and maybe forget some factors. While some other reports maybe are overlooking some other crucial things, overemphasizes some others factor, and maybe forget some other different factors. But importantly, has all the reports been describing the "real" truth.
2) Another reason can be related to how much experience with Moldova and FSU does the man who writes the report has. I still remember 10 years ago when I visit Moldova the first time. It was a totally disaster with "no girls" and "no sex". And I did meet a lot of scam-girls, party girls and gold-digger the first 5 years I did visit Moldova. In the last 5 years do I still met some scam-girls, party girls and gold-digger, but if I shall be honest do I today meet fewer scam-girls, party girls and gold-digger in Moldova, when I compared the number with the number I did met 5 to 10 years ago. I just think that the Moldovan girls quickly find out that I've been many times in Moldova in the last 10 years. Therefore do I think, that some of the Moldovan girls simply given up trying to make these kinds of games and tricks against me. So if I look at my personally experience, do the inexperienced Western middle-aged male "first time" tourist have a high risk of meeting problems with scam-girls, party girls and gold-digger in Moldova. The inexperienced Western middle-aged male "first time" tourist does also have a high risk that his first holyday in Moldova will end with "no girls" and "no sex". I have personally in the past 10 years met several inexperienced middle-aged Western male tourists who were victims of games and tricks performed by scam-girls, party girls and gold-digger. I have also meet western male tourist where there first holyday in Moldova did end with "no girls" and "no sex", they did just have some few date with Moldovan women.
3) I think Moldova is both a "Heaven" and "Hell" place. Moldova is both a "risky" country but also a country where you can get a good rewards. I think that the inexperienced Western middle-aged male 'first time' tourist Moldova very easy can end up with only meeting "Hardball" type of girls, and when he has finish his holyday, he will only have "no sex" and a "dry wallet" and he will think "what happen". The inexperienced Western middle-aged male "first time" tourist will most likely interpret the situation in Moldova in a very negative and pessimistic way. But Moldova also have big possibility for the expire man who have been many times in Moldova, or who live in Moldova. Moldova. Personally do I think that Moldova mostly is a country for men with a big "know-how" about Moldovan women, Moldovan society and culture. The expire western male tourist will most likely interpret the situation in Moldova in a very positive and optimistic way.
4) I still think that the inexperienced middle-aged Western male tourists who are coming to Moldova for the first time shall consider the first 2 years in Moldova as investments years where he is getting some experience about Moldova, Moldovan culture and Moldovan women. He shall expect no sex in his first holyday to Moldova. And he shall remember not to act like a sex-hungry western sex tourists. It is important that he remember that Moldova is an insider country that gives new commer a lot of different problems. He shall use the first 2 years to learn about Moldova.
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5) The inexperienced young or middle-aged Western male tourists who are planning to travel Moldova for the first time shall also very closely consider if his home country maybe can offer better opportunity then Moldova. Personally do I think that for middle-aged Western male tourists do Moldova actually make some good opportunity, if he is willing to consider the first 2 years in Moldova as investments years where he is getting some experience about Moldova. He shall also remember the 10 factors in list of list of requirements. When we talk about the young Western male tourists will I personally say that his home country maybe can offer him better opportunity then Moldova, especially if he is a young western male with a good job and education. Some young western men can simply be disappointed simply because Moldova did not give much better opportunities then in there home country. As a result will the man maybe write a "bad" report about Moldova. Originally Posted by Assimil
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5) The inexperienced young or middle-aged Western male tourists who are planning to travel Moldova for the first time shall also very closely consider if his home country maybe can offer better opportunity then Moldova. Personally do I think that for middle-aged Western male tourists do Moldova actually make some good opportunity, if he is willing to consider the first 2 years in Moldova as investments years where he is getting some experience about Moldova. He shall also remember the 10 factors in list of list of requirements. When we talk about the young Western male tourists will I personally say that his home country maybe can offer him better opportunity then Moldova, especially if he is a young western male with a good job and education. Some young western men can simply be disappointed simply because Moldova did not give much better opportunities then in there home country. As a result will the man maybe write a "bad" report about Moldova. Originally Posted by Hedonist
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7) For Moldovan women is it important that you have a strong socio-economic status. A good socio-economic status is a great advantage. My guess is that the different experiences in Moldova maybe also reflect difference in the men's socio-economic status. Second is it also my guess that the different experiences in Moldova maybe also do reflect difference in the men's willingness to "help there girlfriend" or become sponsor for there girlfriend. A man who want and can "help his girlfriend" will more easily could find a girlfriend, compare with the man who not are willing to do this. This will result in much different experiences in Moldova. Originally Posted by Nolies
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(Quote from Acolonizer. 11-17-11) Originally Posted by Viking30
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If you speak Romanian, are well-mannered, hygenic and possess even a bare minimum of people skills, Chisinau will always be pre-2004, and fortunately for me 99% of all mongers in Moldova are too lazy to learn the language
8) Western male tourists who speak Russian or Romanian will more easily could find a girlfriend in Moldova. Simply because there still are a lot of Moldovan girls, who do not speak English. The different experiences in Moldova can maybe also reflect difference in the men's ability to speak Russian or Romanian. This does not mean that you not can make it, if you only speak English. It just mean that you does need to work much more hard if you only speak English. I myself do only speak English. Originally Posted by Acolonizer
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9) Some people have mention that the different experiences in Moldova maybe could reflect difference in the men's sex appeal including appearance and how charming and handsome they are. I think this can be correct when we talk about young men, especially when we talk about young men who only want to make one-night stand. But when we are talking about western middle-aged male tourist who are a 40+.50+ or 60+ men who want to be together with young 18 to 29 years old Moldovan women, do I simply think we need to be realistic. The young Moldovan women who are in interested in 40 to 69 years old western men, are Moldovan women who are looking after "social security" and "social status", and they are looking after a long-term boyfriend who can "help them". So they are basically not looking after men who only have big sex appeal but no money. I think that different in sex appeal among 40 to 69 old men only plays a minor role when we talk about different experiences in Moldova. But the different in sex appeal among 18 to 39 years young men can play a big role when we talk about different experiences in Moldova. While different in the socio-economic status can maybe play a major role when we talk about 40 to 69 years old western men. Originally Posted by Assimil
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10) For the western male tourist with good sex appeal and a good social-economic status can it also be a little disappointment that it can be difficult get a real stunner as a girlfriend in Moldova. He can sometimes feel that Moldova do not give him better opportunities then his home country when we talk about "women and sex". This can also be a reason for the mix and different experiences in Moldova. How important this factor is, do I think does depend of which western home country the western man have, and how big experience does he have with Moldova, and how regular does he visits Moldova. Originally Posted by Assimil
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11) Moldova is very much an insider's country, and it makes things much more easy if you have good local friends with connection. Local friends who can help you to get beneath the surface, so you can meet local Moldovan girls. The different experiences can maybe also be related to what degree a western male tourist has such types of local friends.
12) You can say, that in the greater extent you meet the 10 factors listed in the list of requirements I listed in part 6 (in this series) , the more likely will you make success. With success will you have positive experience, so the different experiences in Moldova has probably a correlation with the extent you meet the 10 factors listed in the requirements list mention in part 6. Finally, we should not forget that the age difference may also play a role in the widely different experiences in Moldova. If you put everything else equal, will young men finds it easier to meet young Moldovan women from 18 to 29 year old compared with older men or middle-aged men who are trying to meet 18 to 29 year old young Moldovan women.
In general must I say that personally do I like to read reports both about "how did I meet the girls" and read reports "why did I not meet the girls". Personally do I have big pleasure reading both about "problems with meeting women in Moldova" and with reading the success stories. My main reasons for reading many reports in this forum are to read and learn more about "Moldovan women" and I learn both of success stories and of the problem stories. In this way can I increase my "know-how" about Moldova. I think it is the great diversity in the reports that make this forum (ISG – Moldova) to the best Moldova forum on Internet, when we are talking about "women in Moldova". So I very much hope that we still in the further will have a lot reports from all groups, including both report from people who are optimistic and reports from people who are pessimistic. Both groups have been giving a valuable contribution.
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02-23-13 20:22 #8
For the "first time male tourist" who is looking after Moldovan women, part 7
i have decide that i will make a series of reports about moldova, where the target group is the 50+ "first time male tourist" who is thinking about coming to moldova and meet moldovan women.
i am private person, so i will only write in generally. i will never post photo of girls i meet in moldova. because personally do i think this is part of the girl and my private life. i do not want to make it public on internet. in many ways are i am a private person. because i am private person, do i only write in generally, and there will be no photos of women i have met. but i have been many times in moldova, so i think i have some "know-how" about moldova.
i am not putting photo on internet. instead is i am doing that i am willing to personally at meet with other men from isg moldova forum in moldova, when i myself are in moldova. in the past 8 years have i met with 8 friends from isg moldova forum. all 8 meetings have been very nice and it has been very good to share experience about women in moldova, and drink a good drink together. all 8 meeting was in chisinau.
how can you know if my "expert principle" will work? you can not know. of course can i not provide a guarantee for success. i can just say that i personally after visiting moldova many times in the last 10 years, have i in the last 4 years meet and "have action with" more young 18 to 29 old moldovan women, then i did in a 4 years period while i was a young man (and meet young women in my home country). it has been odd and a bit strange for me to experience this as a 50+ old man. in the last 4 years period in moldova, have i had 2 long-term girlfriends in chisinau, and i am still together with the last one. my current long-term girlfriend is 20 years old. i did meet her while she was 18 years old. i am a 50+ man. so for me, have my "expert principle" worked very well. every year do i several time visit moldova, and every time i am in moldova is it very nice to meet my long-term moldovan girlfriend again. i very much like chisinau, and i do always have a good time in chisinau.
i have decide to create a new user thread with the name "for the first time male tourist who is looking after moldovan women", and then put together all my reports in my series. the first 12 parts in this series of reports have i already have made public in the chisinau thread. there may be a few small correction compared with the original report (this is itself one correction).
i have of course be thinking over, why the first years "was so dead", and my conclusion have simply been that it is strictly necessary to meet the 10 factors in my list of requirements i have describe, and to have a good plan where it also is necessary that you strictly meet the 10 topic in my "help list" (to the man). i think a man shall remember and use the "help list" in connection with a good plan, as i have mention in my reports. this series of reports about moldova, where the target group is the 50+ "first time male tourist", is simply the conclusion of this thinking. so today will i talk about what it means to have a good plan, as a 50+ western man who want to visit moldova. i have made this "help list" with good ideas and points.
"help list" of topics a man should remember in connection with a "good plan":
1) you shall have read a lot about moldova, before you arrive to moldova. you can begin with reading a lot of reports in isg-moldova. do also rent an apartment in chisinau. of many reasons is apartment better then hotel (se also my report, part 1 in this series).
2) the second point is to make a lot of chat so you have a list of telephone number of moldovan girls before you go to moldova. if you want to use a russian web site (dating and chat) will i recommend you to go to the russian section of this forum. under the russian section, is there a directory with the name "russia websites". in this directory is there a lot of good information about these russian web sites. (read also my report, part 2 in this series). one very important thing is that you shall never send money to girls you never have met "face to face", but only meet on internet. also when you made chat with moldovan girls are it very important that you not become obsessed with "one girl" you made chat with. there is simply a risk that some of the girls on internet are scam-girl, and they will try to benefit if you become obsessed with a girl. i have personally met western men who of these reasons became victim for scam-plot made of moldovan women (none of these men was men from isg moldova forum).
3) be aware of, that the local moldovan police rarely once in a while can cause problems (see also my first report in this series on this issue). typically will you be able to solve these problems in the "special moldova way". in general would i say that a western male tourist shall be aware of the risk of police problems when he is together with 1 or several young moldovan women. (so also my report series part 1 for more about this topic).
4) make sure that you have a lot of money with you to moldova (mix both in cash and in credit card). i have unfortunately sometimes, but luckily only rarely, meet western male tourist who had no plan, no telephone numbers and too little money with them. on the top did they drink all too much alcohol. and quite obvious did there holyday of course end in a total disaster. it is still a very good idea to visit disco and try to meet moldovan women there. (read more about this topic in report part 3 in this series).
5) consider the first 2 years in moldova as investments years where you gets some experience about moldova, moldovan culture and moldovan women. expect no sex in your first holyday to moldova. do not act like a sex-hungry western sex tourists. remember moldova is an insider country that gives new commer a lot of different problems. use the first 2 years to learn about moldova.
6) make a group of local friend (both moldovan and western people) who lives in chisinau, or regular visit moldova.
7) remember that some moldovan girls do make a lot of tricks. there are many party girls, golddigger, and scam-girls in moldova. this is a big problem, but do also remember that they are the minority of girls in moldova. if you meet a girl, shall you keep your money speeding under control.
8) you shall also remember that some girls are multi-boyfriends girls, so do not be naive. please also notices that although moldovan girls like stable western men, may they themselves well behave in an unstable manner. if you are a 50+ man who has an 18 to 25 year old moldovan girlfriend, can you easily run the risk that she drop you after 1 to 2 years. it is important not to be naive. (i will write more about this topic in a later report in this series). but i will also like to say that i very much like moldovan women, many moldovan women are easy going girls, with which it has been a big great personal pleasure for me to be together with (these moldovan women).
9) western men are expected to pay for joint activities and are expected to take the initiative in relation to the moldovan woman. so the moldovan girls expect men to pay for things in restaurant, disco, swimming pool and so on. moldovan women also expect men to ask them for a date or a telephone number if the western man is interested. moldovan women also expect men to ask them "if they like a drink home in his apartment" (or something like that) if the western man is sexual interested in the moldovan women. on all these issue is there no "modern time" in moldova.
10) moldova is no miracle cure for the shy men. if you is a 40+ or 50+ man who was "good to meet women" while you was young, then you most likely also will be "good to meet young women" in moldova, if you meet the 10 factors in my list of requirements and you also do make the 10 topic in my "help list". if you is a 40+ or 50+ man was "bad to meet women" while you was young. then you are at risk also to be "bad to meet young women" in moldova. then it is necessary that you adjust your strategy in moldova after that you are a shy and cautious man. if you are a shy, cautious and moderate conservative man who are looking after a good traditional young woman with "good values" who can be your wife, then it is very important to notices that moldova is no miracle cure where you easy can find this type of girl on internet. this will normally demand hard work inside moldova in a long time (maybe years) to find this kind of young moldovan women. remember also that moldova is an insider country for new commers. i have personally in moldova meet several western men who had make this kind of mistakes and they became victim for scam-plot made of moldovan women (none of these men was men from isg moldova forum).
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