FKK Club Girls. Where Are They Now?

[Optimist]

My response is confined to women that are truly out of this job.

As were my comments.

If you choose to disbelieve me, that is fine.It my experience does not fit in with your view of the world that does not make it untrue

Your reference to Witzelsucht and other unnamed syndromes, to explain my information is uninformed, and inappropriate: you are applying psychological syndromes to me despite having no information at all. This forum is not a place for cod psychology on other members.

As for Witzelsucht, I have told no pointless stories in inappropriate situations. A isg member asked what it might be like to see some ex workers and I just replied to the point and appropriately that the tiny number of ex workers I have known over fifteen years were leading normal lives.

[Danny227]

Well, if you want to call me a liar, it makes no difference to me. Your loss. As I played a part (usually very small) in their moving on, it is hardly surprising I should have some (usually minimal) contact with them. I guess you are just not that kind of guy. Cheers mate.

Any member who has been around for more than a few years can probably guess three of them correctly. Co...., Li...., Ro....... The other two were not well known girls.

A liar is aggressive and implies malicious intent, so no, I do not call you a liar. However, I do think that it is possible that a number of syndromes are involved (e. G, Witzelsucht). However, just to align the platform; retired girls who got married and have kids will not be in touch with any client post that unless he is the father. A girl that says I retired and take 6 months off and comes back is not retired. Many girls claim to be retired and have privates with, multiple clients (telling each that he is the only one). My response is confined to women that are truly out of this job.

[Pistons]

Well said Smoke Light. And that's why it gets ridiculous every time we hear such things in here as 'I get to fuck her, and then later dump her to her boyfriend'. But then again, that says more about those who say those things than it does about the girls. Turn it around and girls can say just the same. They use us and dump us to our stupid girlfriends or wives. Either direction it becomes silly. The body just does not work that way even if it only was for sex. Although it never or rarely solely is.

[Rogue Nation]

I, on the other hand, prefer to tell people that the working women are no different than the masseur men.

You pay the masseur men to give you a good massage.

They have powerful hands and arms to satisfy you.

That may be true in regards to the bond existing (or better not existing) between client and masseur / WG. Being a WG and to have sex with more or less (or literally in some cases) every guy who wants to fuck you, no matter how old or disgusting or dirty, to suck their dicks, kiss them and let them penetrate you, is a completely different story and can not be compared to any other profession. IMHO.

[Smoke Light]

Really good thoughts, Derk and Solo Traveler. Every now and then, especially with girls in touch on WhatsApp and FB I run into the situation when a girl says she is depressed because she has to sell her body for money, and so on, and so on. I am so used to this that I have developed my own set of talking points with them like this:

"Your work is not only sex, you give comfort, companionship, emotions, normal conversation, or illusion of a girlfriend. So why be ashamed of it? You are not selling your body, you are selling time spent with you.

Also, you give men more than you take from them. Much more. You should feel good about yourself, be proud of the work that you do. You are a giver, not taker. You are paid for your service and your time as any other worker in the world. And your job is challenging and hard, but you find a way to make it work. Be proud of it.

No need to put any pressure on your mind. It is your work, you do this and then it's done, and it's over. You get paid, you go to shower, you walk out from work like everybody else in the world.

You must say to yourself that you are much stronger woman than many women who you see on the street. You have the power to control men, when these women cannot control even their own husband. And it is their problem, not yours.

Girls that have normal relationships with married men hurt their wifes and feel good about themselves. They do it intentionally, they manipulate a man by creating relationship with them, and it goes as far as breaking a family. These girls should be ashamed, because they want to solve their life problems at the expense of destroying someone else's family. And these girls are not torturing themselves by thinking oh, I am such a bad person.

Your work is very different. You are not taking a husband from his wife. You give him what his wife or girlfriend failed to give him. She should be ashamed that she doesn't have a way to make her man happy.

Men don't buy parts of your body or you soul. They come to you because you are a wonderful, loving, caring, and much much nicer person than their wife.

Men can say only good things about you. How is this wrong?

You are a wonderful, beautiful, smart girl not afraid of your sexuality. You should feel good about your work and everything you do."

[Solo Traveler]

This business is about selling a service, a dream of sorts to make the customer believe something. They learn to act and pretend and some are pretty good at it and later admit it was all an act.

It's a good analogy, Dirk.

I, on the other hand, prefer to tell people that the working women are no different than the masseur men.

You pay the masseur men to give you a good massage.

They have powerful hands and arms to satisfy you.

The masseur men may also chat with you, say something nice to you, make you feel that you're friends.

But after all, you're just one of their customers.

They are nice to you when they serve you, but don't be surprised if they ignore you afterwards.

I view these things in a healthy and neutral way when I started to see working women as masseur men.

They are all the same in essence.

[Derk]

It is not likely to happen but an interesting thing to do would be to meet all the girls one has fucked in an FKK, say 10 years later, and see what they are doing in life and how they remembered the encounter.

That would actually be a good plot for a movie.

From experience I have ran into women in the business that I sessioned with over a decade ago. Naturally women get older and if they stay in the business they often move on to management positions IE. Front desk, bar etc. There comes a time when they get too old to work or lose the drive (stomach for it). Some enter relationships and if you know enough of them end up working on the other side of the bar because they are forbidden by the partner to continue. Then there are those who go off to the other world and have normal lives, most don't want to know the men involved in this business, why? Most girls want to forget most of the men even if they were nice because the memory is not that fond. Imagine having to eat pussy of old unattractive women all day. If you look disinterested you won't attract many customers. You can't afford to show your disgust, while what I write does not sound good it's reality and once you accept that you can better see the truth. Hey I used to think I was nice and respectful and like by them. You see this when you run into some of them outside the clubs. Some yes will be nice while others will avoid you and ignore you. Again at work, inside the club it's a different world, a world where we're all 50 or 100 euros. Ask yourself how much response do you get from attractive women outside the club is reality.

I recall a gal I knew well who said she did her best to forget men the moment she left them, she did not want to remember them. It's like getting into the shower after a long day and trying to wash away any sign of them. Sad as this sounds like most customers in the clubs are not suitable men nor in the class these women are seeking. Lets face that. No matter how nice you may think you were or are. Women have told me 90% of men in the clubs and higher are lost causes but they have to keep us thinking we're wanted by them or the illusion of that.

I ran into a gal from over 15 years ago who had retired and had several kids, the relationship failed thus she was back in the business. They put on weight, looked 15 years older and lacked the tight hot body I first enjoyed. In fact there is such a gal at Shark's who still looks dam good and is every bit as good in the room as she always was. However now divorced with two kids to take care of. Again this is a human business so there are no set rules, ways and percentages that's all BS. It is what it is. RO women who go back home to enjoy their earnings are less apt to stay in contact due to distance. One needs to also remember if in a normal relationship most likely they don't want people of the past involved in their normal life. Most women who now work the other side of the bar also don't advertise to all that they switched sides even if that experience helps them manage and understand the business. If you've been part of this hobby for at least a decade you might know some of them because many exist today.

This business is about selling a service, a dream of sorts to make the customer believe something. They learn to act and pretend and some are pretty good at it and later admit it was all an act. Getting guys to think they gave them the big O is part of milking time. I don't know how many times an X working girl has talked about how bored she was having someone do DATY. How bad the guy was at it yet she had to go along with it and to make him feel special. You're less likely to stay in contact with WG's if all you were was a paying customer, but the point is they don't want you to see that side because you thinking otherwise is money to them.

Beautiful women are in this business for one thing, money. If during your time with a working gal she did not ask for money you had something special but as long as you paid for most of your time you were just another customer plain and simple. When the money stops and only then you're different then the rest of us.

[Rogue Nation]

Exactly. They stay in touch with you because you are a nice guy. It is not rocket science. Loads more have contact with you than me: you are much better looking, local, and nice to them.

Too much honor. All I do is trying to treat girls in a nice way.

[Optimist]

Any girl with name starting with letter "J"? One my all time favorites.

Unfortunately not. I am sure I let a golden opportunity pass.

[Ortos]

Any member who has been around for more than a few years can probably guess three of them correctly. Co...., Li...., Ro....... The other two were not well known girls.

Any girl with name starting with letter "J"? One my all time favorites.

[Optimist]

What is not to believe? I know of a lot of girls who are now retired and I know about it and with some of them I keep in touch.

Exactly. They stay in touch with you because you are a nice guy. It is not rocket science. Loads more have contact with you than me: you are much better looking, local, and nice to them.

[Optimist]

Optimist is not usually the kind of guy to brag about all his conquests.

Thank you. I doubt I have ever conquered any girl. They conquer me. Any girls I still know would probably tell you I hang on like a limpet

[Optimist]

5 girls not only quit, but senior knows all of them and senior knows them still. I find that very hard to believe. Anyone who know a girl who is trying or tried to move on, it is HARD. The last thing they want is for a client to know them. They want to believe it was a bad dream. So, no apologies for my scepticism. Cheers mate.

Well, if you want to call me a liar, it makes no difference to me. Your loss. As I played a part (usually very small) in their moving on, it is hardly surprising I should have some (usually minimal) contact with them. I guess you are just not that kind of guy. Cheers mate.

Any member who has been around for more than a few years can probably guess three of them correctly. Co...., Li...., Ro....... The other two were not well known girls.

[Rogue Nation]

5 girls not only quit, but senior knows all of them and senior knows them still. I find that very hard to believe. Anyone who know a girl who is trying or tried to move on, it is HARD. The last thing they want is for a client to know them. They want to believe it was a bad dream. So, no apologies for my scepticism. Cheers mate.

What is not to believe? I know of a lot of girls who are now retired and I know about it and with some of them I keep in touch.

[BigBuddy69]

Optimist is not usually the kind of guy to brag about all his conquests.