Saunaclub / FKK Penelope (was Great Palace) - Castrop Rauxel

[Escape Artist]

Well the background is that my ISG buddy Andy (now awol) liked to fuck girls on his knees. Her in mish pillow under her butt. I didn't see this position in the standard sex positions sites (don't look too hard I suppose) so I called it the Andy.

That is how the Steve came to be. A position I kinda just invented one day (new to me!) and there didn't seem to be a name for it. So I called it the Steve. Standing at side of bed her on her back at edge of bed. Feet spread or over shoulders. Can fuck forever this way and can lean in and make out also. One girl recently told me it's called Stand and Deliver. Which makes sense.

Steve 2 is another fave and I def don't know a name for this. On your knees near her face. She turns a bit sideways on her back to BJ you. And you finger her. BJ while fingering is so epic. Steve 2 is a personal fave.

Solid position. Big fan. From there, it's a good transition if she lowers her legs and wraps around your waist to draw you closer. I like to also grab her hands / forearms to bring her back after each thrust. Also easier to cum on tits / face from these positions since there is no delay from fucking so you don't have to use your hands to finish.

[Steve 9696]

What is the Steve position?

Well the background is that my ISG buddy Andy (now awol) liked to fuck girls on his knees. Her in mish pillow under her butt. I didn't see this position in the standard sex positions sites (don't look too hard I suppose) so I called it the Andy.

That is how the Steve came to be. A position I kinda just invented one day (new to me!) and there didn't seem to be a name for it. So I called it the Steve. Standing at side of bed her on her back at edge of bed. Feet spread or over shoulders. Can fuck forever this way and can lean in and make out also. One girl recently told me it's called Stand and Deliver. Which makes sense.

Steve 2 is another fave and I def don't know a name for this. On your knees near her face. She turns a bit sideways on her back to BJ you. And you finger her. BJ while fingering is so epic. Steve 2 is a personal fave.

[Escape Artist]

I think we do much of the same but throw in some of the [Steve position for variety. Very nice. It's so hard to decide what is best. Cowgirl with amazing tits. Doggie with amazing ass. Mish with amazing pussy feel and intimate face to face, or the Steve wiith her legs up in the air on my shoulders and driving deep and hard.

What is the Steve position?

[Escape Artist]

I meant for girls I roomed with, coming to me to repeat, at Penelope or GG or Bruggen before, or even Gold, not to marry, when I will make a break when I was asked a embarrassing question on this week end. I agree, I hate when not pretty come to me, finding this a bit insulting and sometimes killing my mood.

Sure, but that's pretty standard even at non-approach clubs. Girls don't approach most customers but if they know you from before, it is different, especially if you are there often. Even the ones I don't go to room, if they see me enough, they say Hello. Normal human behavior. If a girl recognize a monger from previous rooms and as long as his crotch didn't smell like onions, she would likely approach him at non approach clubs. It's not a matter of "liking" a customer, it is just that she remembers the customer and he did not make her vomit.

But for the purpose of this paid sex forum, the typical monger visiting this club should expect the girls to not generally approach or hunt. Maybe a Hello, or a come hither eye glance, but not girls hunting like in Hessen. And since girls don't approach most guys, a visitor does have to worry about as much about the poor ratio at these clubs because girls will be free since they do not hunt as much and rooms are generally shorter.

[Sirioja]

I suppose if in a regular social environment, I would find it a flattering, ego boost for women to come to me. At a hooker club, I think them not bothering me until I ask for their company preferable. When the ugly older, German woman at Penelope keeps triying to talk to me, it gets pretty annoying.

I meant for girls I roomed with, coming to me to repeat, at Penelope or GG or Bruggen before, or even Gold, not to marry, when I will make a break when I was asked a embarrassing question on this week end. I agree, I hate when not pretty come to me, finding this a bit insulting and sometimes killing my mood.

[Escape Artist]

When they like you, girls come to you at Penelope or even Gold.

I suppose if in a regular social environment, I would find it a flattering, ego boost for women to come to me. At a hooker club, I think them not bothering me until I ask for their company preferable. When the ugly older, German woman at Penelope keeps triying to talk to me, it gets pretty annoying.

[Sirioja]

Nothing to add as I share the same sentiment. Girls don't approach so overall there are less rooms taken than compared to the tourist clubs. Also not many guys taking long rooms, although noticeably more with the arrival of clients from Holland and Belgium. I've made 20 or so visits there and have generally been able to room with my top 3 targets. The only time I haven't were with a German who works very part time and the other day when Adella was booked for the entire night. Not bad since I really only find about 3 targets per visit.

When they like you, girls come to you at Penelope or even Gold.

[Escape Artist]

EA has more experience there than me but during my four visits my observation was there are a ton of bearded middle eastern looking dude there. Maybe a 2 or 3 to one guy to girl ratio. BUT they are not taking a lot of rooms. I never had any issue grabbing the hottie I wanted and the guys were generally friendly and a nice laid back party atmosphere. Actually prob my fave FKK oddly. And all four girls were good to great.

Nothing to add as I share the same sentiment. Girls don't approach so overall there are less rooms taken than compared to the tourist clubs. Also not many guys taking long rooms, although noticeably more with the arrival of clients from Holland and Belgium. I've made 20 or so visits there and have generally been able to room with my top 3 targets. The only time I haven't were with a German who works very part time and the other day when Adella was booked for the entire night. Not bad since I really only find about 3 targets per visit.

[Steve 9696]

Excellent report, EA. Love all the details. There should defintively be more reports from the NRW.

Two questions:

1. What's the F / M ratios like during a week?

2. Hot much more clothings compared to the Hessen FKK clubs?

EA has more experience there than me but during my four visits my observation was there are a ton of bearded middle eastern looking dude there. Maybe a 2 or 3 to one guy to girl ratio. BUT they are not taking a lot of rooms. I never had any issue grabbing the hottie I wanted and the guys were generally friendly and a nice laid back party atmosphere. Actually prob my fave FKK oddly. And all four girls were good to great.

[Sirioja]

Yeah, agreed that Penelope is better than Gold for me also. Same with late line up arrival. If you arrive at 4 pm, you can see the bulk of the line up start arriving with the last hitting the floor as late as 8 pm. That said, the pro of Gold over Penelope is that the former makes for a better visit if visiting early in the day as there are around 20 girls by 2 pm where at Penelope, there may only be 10 total girls with 5 already in rooms. Also if someone is not willing to go an extra 45 minutes to an hour by car from Dusseldorf to almost Dortmund, Gold might be a more practical. Also at Gold, you will find more girls who are free as several former Goldentime and Dutch customers have settled there, sometimes taking Goldentime style long rooms.

Alas, most people should not really consider the statement, "if she likes you, she will make free for you." It's not really pertinent to us lowly, normal men who are not super givers of orgasms to hookers using 9 inch Caucasian cocks and superior fitness. For us 5 cm cocked men with beer making our bellies fat, us guys who don't stand out from the crowd, it may be better to play the odds where there are not 10 guys for each WG. Better to leave the hooker seduction game to the superior guys with the charm of Casa Nova and physique of a Greek God than be disappointed when a girl does not come to you when there are 5 guys waiting for her.

Among Turkish, Arabs, Germans, I liked when she came to me to shower in bed on her busy nights, but she never told me again about anal, when she told me for 60 , when she told me her Audi options on start of our discovery, but never again money talk. Just outstanding level with her. Lina. Ro was also really GFE for 80/60 at Gold on Summer 2019 .

When Sharks is now mostly for tourist in mind, but can find much better value with higher level in NRW. Same about Globe now in Switzerland.

[Escape Artist]

Penelope wake up at 6/7 pm. When a girl likes You, she will make free for You, even on Saturday night, when I used to get weekly the superstar on 2022. Quite good value and better level for sex than at brother Gold.

Yeah, agreed that Penelope is better than Gold for me also. Same with late line up arrival. If you arrive at 4 pm, you can see the bulk of the line up start arriving with the last hitting the floor as late as 8 pm. That said, the pro of Gold over Penelope is that the former makes for a better visit if visiting early in the day as there are around 20 girls by 2 pm where at Penelope, there may only be 10 total girls with 5 already in rooms. Also if someone is not willing to go an extra 45 minutes to an hour by car from Dusseldorf to almost Dortmund, Gold might be a more practical. Also at Gold, you will find more girls who are free as several former Goldentime and Dutch customers have settled there, sometimes taking Goldentime style long rooms.

Alas, most people should not really consider the statement, "if she likes you, she will make free for you." It's not really pertinent to us lowly, normal men who are not super givers of orgasms to hookers using 9 inch Caucasian cocks and superior fitness. For us 5 cm cocked men with beer making our bellies fat, us guys who don't stand out from the crowd, it may be better to play the odds where there are not 10 guys for each WG. Better to leave the hooker seduction game to the superior guys with the charm of Casa Nova and physique of a Greek God than be disappointed when a girl does not come to you when there are 5 guys waiting for her.

[Sirioja]

Well, the ratio is certainly quite terrible on the weekends and can be nearly as bad on weekdays. Probably 10:1 midday before girls arrive. It gets better in the evening but I don't think this club is ever 1:1. Sometimes a girl does get occupied for hours but more often than not, average rooms are very short, where you see a girl go in an out in less than 20 minutes. You do have to be more flexible at clubs like this one, NRW clubs in general.

Definitely more clothing as every girl is wearing bottoms and only 10% or so are topless. But that does make it nicer when you see them topless leaving the rooms.

Clubs like Venus, and as far as I remember, Babylon, are much more like FKK full nude style.

Penelope wake up at 6/7 pm. When a girl likes You, she will make free for You, even on Saturday night, when I used to get weekly the superstar on 2022. Quite good value and better level for sex than at brother Gold.

[Escape Artist]

Excellent report, EA. Love all the details. There should defintively be more reports from the NRW.

Two questions:

1. What's the F / M ratios like during a week?

2. Hot much more clothings compared to the Hessen FKK clubs?

Here are my prejudices to the NRW (probably based on my lack of experience):

- Small NRW clubs are popular among our Dutch friends (due to geography and favourable going rates). There are rumours of huge crowds of gents on the weekends occupying the hottest girls.

- I have been critical to the clothing development at the Hessen clubs for a long time. At times, in particular during winter, the FKK clubs look more and more like sauna clubs with girls wearing lingerie, panties, bras, hardly seethrough negligees, usw. The total disrespect to the FKK culture. I have nightmares that soon we will not even find topless girls in the clubs!

Well, the ratio is certainly quite terrible on the weekends and can be nearly as bad on weekdays. Probably 10:1 midday before girls arrive. It gets better in the evening but I don't think this club is ever 1:1. Sometimes a girl does get occupied for hours but more often than not, average rooms are very short, where you see a girl go in an out in less than 20 minutes. You do have to be more flexible at clubs like this one, NRW clubs in general.

Definitely more clothing as every girl is wearing bottoms and only 10% or so are topless. But that does make it nicer when you see them topless leaving the rooms.

Clubs like Venus, and as far as I remember, Babylon, are much more like FKK full nude style.

[Shark16]

NRW clubs hardly ever get any reviews.

Excellent report, EA. Love all the details. There should defintively be more reports from the NRW.

Two questions:

1. What's the F / M ratios like during a week?

2. Hot much more clothings compared to the Hessen FKK clubs?

[Escape Artist]

NRW clubs hardly ever get any reviews.

Penelope's been in my cheap club rotation for quite a while. Just like other clubs of the sort, don't expect Hessen decadence or optical quality but in a line up of 40 or so, there's usually 10 or so girls I find doable. Of those, 2-3 are automatically on my to-do list. Expect most rooms to be optic fuck quality without GFE or deep kiss but at the same time, those same rooms are usually not starfish / deadfish either. Girls just don't really do the "groom your customer for GFE long room" thing. Half the girls, I would never touch. Another 25% are the "last girl at the bar and you'll fuck anything because you're drunk and horny" type.

The good thing is that you don't get all of the touristy upsells because well, there aren't that many tourists visiting the Dortmund area. BBBJ is pretty standard. DATY is hit and miss. And as mentioned, assume no for DFK. Optically, a handful of girls would make the top 10 at Sharks.

Adella is a solid 8, maybe even a 9 for some guys. Perfect silhouette with tiny waste and ideal ass. Her tits are fake but maybe the best fake boobs you can ask for. I tried hard, but couldn't feel the silicone bag. Long hair brunette with pretty face but likely augmented lips. No kissing in short rooms but is likely on the table for longer rooms. She was occupied for at least 5 hours in a long room with a client. I doubt guys spend that much time in a room if FK was not offered.

Cami / Amy is another of similar quality. Natural boobs, great ass. Pretty face. Girl next door energy when you talk to her, even if she does not give that off if looking from afar. No kissing in my sessions though. No DATY either. Great for everything else.

Those were two of the top looking girls for general tastes but a half dozen other girls fit my eclectic taste for various reason. Mara / Mira was a great 19 year old discovery last year. Unbelievable tits with a nice and natural sag. Great energy in the room. Remember asking to switch to doggy and she jumps onto all fours, slaps her palms on the bed, shoulders low, and ass cheeks facing the ceiling. God damn. What a firecracker.

There are a handful of other girls of decent optical quality for various tastes. Most doable ones were skinny minis that fit my regular tastes, despite the fact that girls above were of the curvy variety.

Also worth mentioning that there are some Germans in the line up. Long time little Lucy is still in the line up and is usually only there on the weekends. She's gain some weight in the mid 20's but still attractive with amazing service. Leoni / Lelani? Is a tall German redhead with nice tits. German dudes have her booked most of my visit though.

But then there is also a 40 year old looking blond German who seemed to be very popular. Good God, I don't know why. I don't care how great her service is, she looks like she works at the local convenient store smoking a pack and a half of cigarettes per day giving 20 dolllar blow jobs in the gas station bathroom. Gross. I think German girls are automatically given 2 points for not being Romanian. Even with this handicap, I would rate this one a five.

Anyway. Good cheap club with 20-35 euro entry and 50 euro rooms. Comfy couches upstairs to rest, sleep, and look at girls going into and leaving rooms. Showers are aweful. Food is whatever and doesn't ever change. There is a dry sauna outside but no steam room. Outdoor pool and surrounding area gets really busy during the warm months. Line up shows up in the late afternoon / evening so you may only see 6 girls at 2 pm. Thai massage lade is pretty good and sometimes the really male masseuse from Aca Gold fills in for her.

All and all, a good discount club to find some gems if you're willing to wade through the 75% of girls that are gypsy, fat, old, or emaciated. Best part, traditional pricing without upsell. A nice escape from the Frankfurt scene that's tainted by overpayers ruining the FKK scene who pay brothel girls the same prices offered in private houses and hotels.

In the end, that's my criticism, why are guys paying 150 e or 200 euro per hour at Sharks when they can just go get the same quality at privates without paying club entry and ruining FKK sauna clubs? I wish these 1-girl per visit or 5 rooms for 1000 euro guys would go to privates and pay them those rates and leave the FKK scene for FKK mongers.