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07-10-15 17:32 #239
Posts: 319So that's why she works in FOD now.
Now she's visiting BB with clients sometimes.
Originally Posted by Yanqui69 [View Original Post]
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07-10-15 16:59 #238
Posts: 957Originally Posted by Yanqui69 [View Original Post]
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07-10-15 15:58 #237
Posts: 1110Originally Posted by Manny51 [View Original Post]
(Its hard for the girls to sit around for hours, with occasional drinks with the customers, without putting on weight).
The mama-san at the time told her to stay home till she dropped some weight.
I was also sitting with the mama-san when a girl dropped off her monthly health-check paperwork, - another benefit over the street.
Monthly checks are far from perfect, since you don't know what happened yesterday, but at least it reduces the odds of disease.
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07-09-15 22:54 #236
Posts: 384Originally Posted by Manny51 [View Original Post]
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07-09-15 20:05 #235
Posts: 957Originally Posted by Yanqui69 [View Original Post]
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07-09-15 15:50 #234
Posts: 2390Originally Posted by Manny51 [View Original Post]
Haitians who have work visas will not be deported. Also, those who can prove they have been in the DR since 2010 had the chance to apply for legalization, so those who were valued employees of gringos were probably helped with that.
Originally Posted by Manny51 [View Original Post]
I think Danilo is a humane and sensible person. He went along with the blatantly racist solution (the DR's "final solution") until he had wangled the constitution to get re-elected. Now he is assured of that, he is announcing more and more exceptions and loopholes to soften the pogrom somewhat and I expect that process will continue.
Remember, the vast majority of Haitians are in the DR because they were encouraged in by Dominicans to provide cheap labor, in agriculture, construction and hospitality. Those employers will not welcome their wage bill doubling.
As you say, it is those "hiding in the shadows" who will constitute the majority of those deported. They are not really hiding, but existing from day to day on handouts from other Haitians in places where gringos never, and Dominicans rarely, set foot.
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07-09-15 14:54 #233
Posts: 957Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
But the thing to remember is BB isn't an open door, where a girl can just randomly decide, "Hmmm. I am going to work at BB today!" You have to get permission to work there. If I hadn't emphasized it enough, it the vetting that's the biggest advantage.
I think we are making the same case.
BTW, has anyone seen any surface effects of the Haitian expulsion? The political situation is much like the USA's problem with Mexico. I was just wondering how pervasive it was. Are there cleaning ladies for cooks at BB's getting forced out? Is it the type of people that you see everyday? Or is it more of a hiding in the shadows thing?
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07-09-15 14:53 #232
Posts: 1110Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
And I got that from conversations with the chicas (more than a few). One I know very well who left years ago, told me she considered herself very lucky to be working there.
They prefer the controlled environment; safer for them on a number of levels. On the customer level, no scams, thievery, bait-and-switch, etc.
To use your Wal-Mart example, hearing it from a chica is more like asking a Wal-Mart employee, not a customer.
If the employee is positive about their place of work, I take their word for it.
Occasionally one will leave because they don't want to follow certain rules, but overall, its a very coveted place to work.
A girl can get told to leave for misconduct, complaints, or if she gets too fat, etc.
The freelancers may have their reasons for doing so, but some may be drama queens, thieves, druggies, scams, etc that wouldn't last long.
Have occasionally seen former BB chicas at FOD, for example. Given the difference in the level of business, they would not consider that positive.
When you see a former BB girl working elsewhere, its not considered a step up.
No need to turn this into a prolonged debate, just leave at "to each his own. ".
Stick with what you enjoy.
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07-09-15 14:52 #231
Posts: 3103Numbers game
In Sosua you get a couple of 100 hotties as a opposed to BBs 20 or 30. On weekends buses of Santiago red bones show up. I have met some girls very new to the game in Sosua.. I control my encounters with the ladies. It is true that rip offs and scams are reduced but that is part of th excitement of Sosua. Sosua has many part timers because of the constant turn over . I tend to look for this type of chica. If you speak a little Spanish you can find them. If Sosua did not exist or was shut down BBs would be a great option when got a Bently the Mercedes loses some of its luster.
Originally Posted by Manny51 [View Original Post]
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07-09-15 06:29 #230
Posts: 5465Originally Posted by Manny51 [View Original Post]
As I see it, if you got it from BBs regulars, they got it from the girls who work at BBs, most of which probably prefer to work there. It's like standing inside a Walmart and asking customers where they prefer to shop.
Rather than assume, with nothing to support the assumption, that the majority of girls not working at BBs, would rather be working at BBs, you should stick with the data and ask why do the girls at BBs prefer that to somewhere else.
Safety and security is one possibility. I think there is a much more likely reason, less competition. My rough estimate is a 20 to 1 ratio, available women to looking me in Sosua. At BBs, it was 2 or 3 to 1. Team up with another girl for jacuzzi tag teams and now it's almost 1 to 1. With those odds, even a woman with hair on her nipples or rather grotesque growths on her hands, has a good chance of making some money.
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07-09-15 02:43 #229
Posts: 2390Originally Posted by Manny51 [View Original Post]
What does work is having a powerful contact high up in the system. A few guys here boast of having one. In some cases it might even be true. But most of us are not that fortunate.
Manny, you live in a little bubble of your own. No wonder you like to spend your time interned in the likes of Oxygen, Blackbeards and Field of Dreams where you are sheltered from the "real" DR. Seriously, it is the right policy for you.
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07-09-15 00:25 #228
Posts: 430I think the BB, FOD and Sosua girls are all the same. Some like the security and back-up in case a gringo monger is a bit too physical or abusive while others like to bag their own prey in the streets of Sosua. They may not like the fact that working at BB they can't trick some newbie into a $200 night.
But pretty much the very same North Coast "Professional" Dominican women at each location. It would seem that if you want a non-pro you leave the compounds AND Sosua.
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07-09-15 00:07 #227
Posts: 1110Originally Posted by Manny51 [View Original Post]
I only paid for part of the idiot's motoconcho because he and a couple of friends would not let me leave.
He wanted more, and the friends convinced him to take my offer.
I willingly paid only for the female passenger's medical bill, which was small, to avoid any problems with her family.
IF the cops had been involved, THEY would have wanted money, and I know stories of gringos spending a day or two in jail, waiting for a lawyer or money to "fix things".
My lesson was ALWAYS LOOK. Motoconchos will appear WHERE THEY SHOULD NOT BE.
I make all course changes gradually, to allow any motoconcho I didn't see, time to move out of the way.
My luck was the girl. She knew to take control of the situation, and get everyone to a clinic fast.
Had the cops arrived first and taken charge, it would likely have been a disaster for me.
Imagine any gringo on his own, and he would have waited for the cops; and at that point, he'd be screwed.
Once immersed in the Dominican legal system, you are at the mercy of a corrupt, incompetent system, and those involved have time to get a lawyer and make claims, etc.
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07-09-15 00:04 #226
Posts: 957Originally Posted by OldKool [View Original Post]
From my limited observations, I detected no difference in the women whatsoever. I found the women at BB, FOD, and Sosua equal in looks. The advantage of BB and FOD isn't in looks, its in vetting and the incentives for good behavior.
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07-08-15 23:47 #225
Posts: 957Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
Of course there may be some women who truly prefer working on the street. Fine. But once you accept that most women would probably prefer to work at BB if they could, it behooves you to ask WHY they are not there. It may have been because they tried to rip off customers too often, got caught stealing, or failed a basic STD screen.