San Jose - 2003 Reports

[Dickhead]

Originally posted by Jason
I wanted to get some expert advice. I am headed down to CR for a friends bachelor party. We are planning on staying at the Hotel Del Rey. Do I have to make a special reservation like you do at the Presidente to bring girls up to the room?

Nope. Pay the house $10, she leaves her ID, you take her up. Repeat as necessary.

[Dboy]

Just got an email from Delta airlines. They've got a great fare during May to Liberia (LIR), Costa Rica, check www.delta.com. Wed, Sat and Sun only. Most US cities are $309 tax included. The cheapest I've seen. Atlanta is less.

[SeeksGoodTime]

Shamas and Rodpipe,

Thanks for the encouragement. It is a fun place and I think the more you go, the better you understand the mentality of the providers.

One more note for newbies to the scene in general is, it is hard to prepare for what you will experience with the liberal attitude and availability of booty all around you. I would recommend not even trying to get laid the first night and just watch and talk with the chicas. This will give you a better acclimation to the environment.

As far as pricing, I think in the future, the benchmark for pick-up chicas should be based on MP pricing. New fantasy runs about $30/hour and I think this is reasonable for any company for a chica in the 6-7 range. For a 9-10 add 25%. I actually found using this as a negotiating tool with one Panamenian in BM who was hitting on me. I said, I'm dry and just had a two hour session at New Fantasy. She asked how much, I told her, and she said that was doable for her also. So, it is a good idea to challenge their worth by using good ole free market concepts.

The one that pisses me off is that first $100 dollar screw-up. I should have at least forced her to finish up the time with massage or something or tried to reduce the rate becuase I wasn't into it. Well, just move on, everybody is allowed one bonehead move.

I think before I repeat in CR, I might try Dominican Republic since that might give me some better comparitive. I might like to do an extended trip to CR/Rio/BA in the fall if it can be arranged with other commitments. Like my post in the addiction section, this scene gets you thinking wierd first time through. Like a drug that agrees well to your body. Like has been said before, think with the big head first cannot be overestimated.

SGT

[Jason]

I wanted to get some expert advice. I am headed down to CR for a friends bachelor party. We are planning on staying at the Hotel Del Rey. Do I have to make a special reservation like you do at the Presidente to bring girls up to the room?

[Shamas]

seeksgoodtime

Ditto Rodpipe, he put it very well.

I hope you return to SJO, it's a great place. Like all newbies you learn as you go, some good, some bad.

Next trip post ahead of time and see who you can hook up with. Nononsence and Ace really helped me out and saved me lots of time and also lots of learning pains.

Shamas

[Jaimito Cartero]

i haven't been to the new location of arte sauna, and don't have a lot of info on how the new setup is. however, as all massage places i've seen in cr are the same, this thing seems to be total bullshit.

they're having a child prostitution conference in town, and they need some local action to prove they're doing something.

i'm all for nailing people who go after kids. i've seen some steetwalkers that could have been ****d. i never stopped and asked. how about getting the kids some help?

oh, you ask, how many kids were working at arte sauna? none.

they got the managers for pimping. i doubt they were doing anything more than renting the rooms out, and taking their (probably half) commission on the deal.

[Rodpipe]

as a reply to seeks good times post: I think that other members should value and critique detailed posts like yours with a kinder eye... as as far as I can tell you did well on your first trip. There is always a vast difference in hindsight( What do they say: monday quarterback?) Its all about reading personalities of the pros involved. And as a note to all u penny pinchers... work more ***** less... and diet and excercise for the beer belly does wonders too...

[CaribbeanGringo]

check out the Gringo news links that hint at certain events concerning Arte y Sauna:

http://www.amcostarica.com/index.htm

http://insidecostarica.com/dailynews/index.htm

http://www.ticotimes.net/daily.htm#story_two

[WilliamWalker]

what now on sunday?

the arte y sauna massage place within walking distance of everything, is closed, at least for a while, after a raid tuesday. guess what? no ****d chicas were found there. it was a political thing. any bets on when it will reopen? or is it already back in business?
it was the only action on sunday daytime until chicas made it up and into the infamous blue marlin. the sunday afternoon crowd of chicas did not turn my head as a rule. then again, neither did the chicas at the arte y sauna.

[Antonio]

Was in S.J. for first weekend in May. Sampled the fare almost exclusively at New Fantasy on Av.9 btw calles 7 & 9. A very sleek, ultra-modern set-up, with girls' time-in and time-out all registered by a computer. But the scientific organization of the sex/massage business, in this case at least, is to be applauded. Girls have been screened in advance for attitude and availability to perform the services (all girls are expected to provide BBBJ as a prelude the final act, and the 4 I sampled were all disposed to French kissing). I know that the reviewers have focused on the arts and skills of "Wanda", and there's no denying that she brings a degree of skill and professionalism to her work that can only come from true commitment to and passion for her art (she told me that she reads books on how to enhance corporal pleasure). Since, however, there is often a waiting line for her, here are my alternative picks: 1) Carol, shorter and younger than Wanda but very nicely proportioned and well-endowed, loves to frolic and roll about with you; 2) Jennifer (of Nica origin), more dark-complexioned and younger than Wanda and slightly taller than Carol, with very large rack--will go crazy for you if you say you're Italian-American (or better yet, Italian); 3) Valeska, about as dark and young as Jennifer, but taller and with a very graceful classy look to her (of all 4, I'd say she's the best looking), does everything the others do but with a tad less passion. I suggest going to the steam sauna AFTER you've finished up in the room--very relaxing and cleansing feeling you get. All in all I'd say that this is a premiere place--it's true that the score (6-7) on looks of the 25 odd girls puts them below what you could possibly find at IDEM or the Blue Marlin, but there's no beating the massage/sex combo for price (12,000 colones/hr=$30) and the quality of extra-sexual services available at the establishment such as the saunas (steam & dry) and showers. And, to sum up my appraisal of New Fantasy's scientific approach to the MP biz, I'd quote Lincoln Steffens (on the occasion of his visit to the USSR in the '30s): "I've seen the future and it works."

On another front, here's a cell phone number for a Nica cutey named Fatima on the short, but well-proportioned side (7-8 in looks) who was a hotty (BBBJ/DFK) in bed: 3583571. Picked her up in the Blue Marlin and got her for an hour in the Presidente at the unheard-of rate of 15,000
--say you heard of her from "Lorenzo."

[Shamas]

We met Louis a few times outside of the Park, he was really nice and helpful. It's a shame he's trying to leach off the girls. We all know the Park ladies don't make that much money. I wonder if Bill will keep him around?

Shamas

[SeeksGoodTime]

Like I said, I now know some of the things I did wrong on this one. I was in a bit of an emotional state during this trip and this did cloud my judgement.

However, I want to clarify a few things and not be a total punching bag to the group. I did read the posts on CR pretty well, but I do think for a first time trip monger there is a big difference in practive on round one. Like I said, now I am confident that it won't happen again.

The $100 was done twice. The first was a total mistake. The second was for about 3 hours of dance/affection/sex and an added BBBJTC. Considering these woman were asking that rate por hora, I thought this was a better way to negotiate.

Now for the ones that didn't ask any money, I probably could have done $50 for a few hours, but I like that aspect of service where the money amount was not requested and added another $10-$20 for that. Maybe I was wrong, but that was how I felt at the time.

There was only one case where the money was asked up front and that was with the first poor quality threesome. That should have been my clue since I know I have read that on this board that that is a bad sign.

In terms of the bus, I took it as a local experience. I didn't even plan on getting a room in Jaco as I was going to take the 5AM return the next morning, and actually wasn't thinking of sexo unless the conditions were right. A guy I met on the bus, directed me to the Roblear hotel accross from the Beatle Bar and I said well a shower would be a necessity here. The AC didn't cross my mind for some reason. Hotel was $30 and return cab ride was $60 FYI (the bus was full next day).

I do think I improved later in the trip. As I say the second threeway for $100 ($80 + $20tip) for 2 1/2 hours) I thought wasn't bad for very good quality chicas. I'm curious if that was out of line as well. If so, then maybe I'm just totally out of whack. BTW, I was asking for the BBBJ (Prefiero sexo oral sin condom) with most but with these two I thought there was a different dimension to explore.

Anyway, sorry for some of the mistakes, but let's not get too personal in the return attacks. I'm still learning and I'm trying to do the right thing as I get more practical exposure to the trade.

[Jaimito Cartero]

Louis - Park bartender

I had heard that the daytime bartender was a bit of an A-hole. I hadn't heard his name though. These girls work hard enough dealing with us... No money, no play!

[Jaimito Cartero]

Penny-wise and pound foolish! SGT

It's weird how some guys will pay way too much for chicas, but won't spring the extra $10 a night for the AC room. Jaco is way hot and humid. You rode the Tico bus there, but took a taxi back? What'd the taxi cost $30-$60?

If you had really read all the messages, you would noticed all the warnings about walking around Parque Morazon.

And if you give the girl the money, before you see her body, then you're a bit of a retard. Go to the room, if she's not what you expected, then give her a few thousand colones (or nothing) and send her off. I think we've all made similar mistakes.

It's somewhat frustrating when people here have posted really good advice here, people don't go back a few pages to read it.

I do thank you for your longer response. I'm glad you found some good ones on your trip.

Oh, and if a BBBJ is that critical to you, I think you would ask the girl before you get into the room.

[SeeksGoodTime]

I know I made some mistakes this time. Things improved later in the trip. I think $50 is more than enough for a few hours. $25 is a little dicey for what you will get IMHO.

Key is to start your night late so these ladies are off their high horse. Rookie mistake that will not be repeated.