Vientiane

[Buksida]

I will have to disagree with all of this. Especially because all your accounts are secondhand and never happened to you. I have been going here for years. Before and after covid and have never experienced any of this that you are talking about. Only a stupid person would carry drugs in an Asian country and only a stupid person would get caught up in a police sting. I also have plenty of you tuber friends that film everything in Laos and for mongering it is still a decent destination. You just have to know where to go, what apps to use, and how to behave.

I can also agree with you. However my last trip was pre covid. I will see who I can hookup with online and then make the trip. Vte is a quiet but fun city if you just give it a chance. There are nice restaurants, sites to enjoy, a small casino and kind lovely women!!

[Rick Rock]

Can you shed us some light on the YouTube channels. I m reading that golden triangle might be a good place to.

Monger but it seems entries are mainly for Asians.

It's definitely most popular for Asian guys. You see many guys in rented cars stopping by the various cat houses and checking lineups. It doesn't mean you aren't welcome if you aren't Asian. But yes, it's Asian guys (Japanese, Korean, Chinese) are definitely the top customers and the mamasans know that.

[BonMonger]

I will have to disagree with all of this. Especially because all your accounts are secondhand and never happened to you. I have been going here for years. Before and after covid and have never experienced any of this that you are talking about. Only a stupid person would carry drugs in an Asian country and only a stupid person would get caught up in a police sting. I also have plenty of you tuber friends that film everything in Laos and for mongering it is still a decent destination. You just have to know where to go, what apps to use, and how to behave.

Can you shed us some light on the YouTube channels. I m reading that golden triangle might be a good place to.

Monger but it seems entries are mainly for Asians.

[EverythingThai]

There is 0 mongering in Laos for foreigners. I have a Lao friend that was talling me there is no mlngering here since the police raided massage places few times already.

Also he told me that police newly setup the foreigners with girls and raids their hotel rooms since relationship with Lao girls and foreigners is illegal. Has happened at least to an indian and an australian guy I know. One got 12 nights in jail and the other one was out with $5 k usd and he said he was lucky. Also food options are very minimal. Electricity outage is common. Even for a thailand visa change is better to go to vietnam or Cambodia. Recently a guy on Reddit wrote his experience for spending few days in a jail in Laos just for having an snall empty packet of weed. Thailand is the best honestly.

I will have to disagree with all of this. Especially because all your accounts are secondhand and never happened to you. I have been going here for years. Before and after covid and have never experienced any of this that you are talking about. Only a stupid person would carry drugs in an Asian country and only a stupid person would get caught up in a police sting. I also have plenty of you tuber friends that film everything in Laos and for mongering it is still a decent destination. You just have to know where to go, what apps to use, and how to behave.

[Ray1111]

There is 0 mongering in Laos for foreigners. I have a Lao friend that was talling me there is no mlngering here since the police raided massage places few times already.

Also he told me that police newly setup the foreigners with girls and raids their hotel rooms since relationship with Lao girls and foreigners is illegal. Has happened at least to an indian and an australian guy I know. One got 12 nights in jail and the other one was out with $5 k usd and he said he was lucky. Also food options are very minimal. Electricity outage is common. Even for a thailand visa change is better to go to vietnam or Cambodia. Recently a guy on Reddit wrote his experience for spending few days in a jail in Laos just for having an snall empty packet of weed. Thailand is the best honestly.

[TonyIndian]

Is the Vietnamese massage place still going near the Vientiane Plaza Hotel?

[SteelBaton]

Thanks for a great report. I've mongered only once in Lao and my experience was similar, although that was 20 years ago, seems not much has changed. Curious why some SEA countries develop such good p4 p ecosystems and others have very little despite similar poverty, education and religions. Lao vs Thailand is a good example, but also Indonesia vs Bangladesh.

I've been to Vientiane once before, on a weekend run a few years ago. With the Chinese tied up in lockdowns and the Kip slipping in value I thought ID give it another go for a few days. I may ramble. Sorry in advance.

The short version: Vientiane has almost zero p4 p geared towards english speaking foreigners. It is nothing like Thailand, Philippines, or even Phnom Penh or Jakarta. The p4 p scene is lowkey and if you don't speak Lao, Thai or perhaps Chinese you just arnt going to get much access.

The best looking girls, from what I can make out, are either working in KTVs in chinese owned or orientated Hotels. I didn't try to visit, it might be possible. I chatted to one girl who worked at one of these via a dating site, although when we were due to meet she ditched. She did say she got 500 k for going with a customer for the night. Whether that's a a tip or a cut IDK.

There are free lancers who work out of bars and restaurants. Again, you really need to speak Lao or Thai. Thats the clientele they are catering to. Some good looking, lighter skinned girls in this sector. No luck for me here either, just a chance to observe.

Massage. Here results picked up a bit. I was actually in the mood for a proper massage so I didn't have any high expectations. I had hired a moto and was just exploring, so I picked an externally fairly legit looking massage place a way out sittong road, a little way past the 'character cafe' (which is quite a nice cafe too). On entering and surveying the staff I got a hint there was more on offer. A cute young lady with a cheeky grin took me upstairs, washed my feet and invited me to disrobe in a room with 3 mattresses on the floor with curtains between. Fan and quiet relaxing music. Seemed fairly legit to I put the massage pants on and laid down.

Girl comes in and starts, and within a couple minutes decided I needed to loose the pants as they got in the way. Over the next 10 minutes or so things developed steadily as massage began to resemble something more like foreplay. We were the only ones in that room. I unbuttoned her denim shorts and checked inside, while she smiled at me. Eventually we agreed on extending the hour massage to 2 hours and full service for 600 k to her, she wouldn't go any lower. About 1200 baht. She was 19, cheeky and cute with nice smooth skin and good proportions. We had a good time, she enjoyed it too, after initially complaining about the size of my tool of trade. Massage cost at the desk downstairs was 100 k per hour, so 200 k total. Waved the girl good bye, and made a note to return again. It was a chance encounter but it worked out very well. I must add there were zero english words spoken by anyone there, sign language and google translate was used to communicate while upstairs. And this brings us to the next difficulty. Google translate just doesn't do Lao well. Its great for every other language I've tried, but Lao.

It seems to miss a lot of nuance, struggle to understand verbal input, and not even register the meanings of many words used. On top of that some references went right over my head.

There are also some chicken shack / brothels in places, as found by reading back through previous forum posts. I found some (after dark they become somewhat obvious with the pink lighting). They are hit and miss, mostly miss. In the interests of science I explored again, zero english, white foreigners (moreso their money) accepted. Service level expectations to be kept low, facilities dirty and very poor. I met a 27 yo vietnamese girl at one who was fairly enthusiastic, or maybe just excited to have a customer. And least she gave a BJ. She wante the to chat afterwards.

Next night a 22 ish Lao girl who, while fairly good looking, undressed and assumed a missionary position which she wouldn't budge from. And that was her entire contribution to proceedings. In both cases 200 k was the rate. Which sounds cheap, until you add in the cost of getting there. So I got more ambitious. In the middle of it all is a ST hotel, or 150000 kip for all night. For 500 k I got a takeaway Lao, and retired to my very modest room which boasted clean towels but not a lot more. A lot of noise filtered through from the street, but this Lao girl is 20, friendly but a little shy, and fun to be with. I'm getting into this. Then, about 90 minutes in I hear the sound of heavy footsteps on the stairs. Voices and then what sounds like radio chatter or walkie talkies. Police? Shakedown? Setup?? I hardly dared breath. What sounds like radio comms from outside my door. Eventually footsteps went away, and about half an hour later I bailed too, dropped my short term Lao GF back to her place of work and retired for the night. Decided that was enough adrenaline and ID stick to sneaky massages and plan to head back to Thailand and more familiar territory.

Other things to note: The Lao girls (including the online contact) refused oral and seemed disgusted by the concept. Cover was expected and given reports of disease circulating in other reports in this forum I sided with caution.

Interestingly I met a gentleman in my travels who said he had seen a lot of Lao girls, likely FL, in Nong Khai.

Overall: Lao is a lovely laid back place to relax for a few days, but in terms of P4 P you're far better off in Thailand for choice, accessibility, langage, food and even value for money when you take the travel / visa costs into account. And with the Lao girls looking for money youll probably find the best ones in Thailand soon enough anyway.

In another comparison, I think Indonesia Laos for lower cost p4 p, and I felt a lot more secure there too.

[Nuttin Serious]

I've been to Vientiane once before, on a weekend run a few years ago. With the Chinese tied up in lockdowns and the Kip slipping in value I thought ID give it another go for a few days. I may ramble. Sorry in advance.

The short version: Vientiane has almost zero p4 p geared towards english speaking foreigners. It is nothing like Thailand, Philippines, or even Phnom Penh or Jakarta. The p4 p scene is lowkey and if you don't speak Lao, Thai or perhaps Chinese you just arnt going to get much access.

The best looking girls, from what I can make out, are either working in KTVs in chinese owned or orientated Hotels. I didn't try to visit, it might be possible. I chatted to one girl who worked at one of these via a dating site, although when we were due to meet she ditched. She did say she got 500 k for going with a customer for the night. Whether that's a a tip or a cut IDK.

There are free lancers who work out of bars and restaurants. Again, you really need to speak Lao or Thai. Thats the clientele they are catering to. Some good looking, lighter skinned girls in this sector. No luck for me here either, just a chance to observe.

Massage. Here results picked up a bit. I was actually in the mood for a proper massage so I didn't have any high expectations. I had hired a moto and was just exploring, so I picked an externally fairly legit looking massage place a way out sittong road, a little way past the 'character cafe' (which is quite a nice cafe too). On entering and surveying the staff I got a hint there was more on offer. A cute young lady with a cheeky grin took me upstairs, washed my feet and invited me to disrobe in a room with 3 mattresses on the floor with curtains between. Fan and quiet relaxing music. Seemed fairly legit to I put the massage pants on and laid down.

Girl comes in and starts, and within a couple minutes decided I needed to loose the pants as they got in the way. Over the next 10 minutes or so things developed steadily as massage began to resemble something more like foreplay. We were the only ones in that room. I unbuttoned her denim shorts and checked inside, while she smiled at me. Eventually we agreed on extending the hour massage to 2 hours and full service for 600 k to her, she wouldn't go any lower. About 1200 baht. She was 19, cheeky and cute with nice smooth skin and good proportions. We had a good time, she enjoyed it too, after initially complaining about the size of my tool of trade. Massage cost at the desk downstairs was 100 k per hour, so 200 k total. Waved the girl good bye, and made a note to return again. It was a chance encounter but it worked out very well. I must add there were zero english words spoken by anyone there, sign language and google translate was used to communicate while upstairs. And this brings us to the next difficulty. Google translate just doesn't do Lao well. Its great for every other language I've tried, but Lao.

It seems to miss a lot of nuance, struggle to understand verbal input, and not even register the meanings of many words used. On top of that some references went right over my head.

There are also some chicken shack / brothels in places, as found by reading back through previous forum posts. I found some (after dark they become somewhat obvious with the pink lighting). They are hit and miss, mostly miss. In the interests of science I explored again, zero english, white foreigners (moreso their money) accepted. Service level expectations to be kept low, facilities dirty and very poor. I met a 27 yo vietnamese girl at one who was fairly enthusiastic, or maybe just excited to have a customer. And least she gave a BJ. She wante the to chat afterwards.

Next night a 22 ish Lao girl who, while fairly good looking, undressed and assumed a missionary position which she wouldn't budge from. And that was her entire contribution to proceedings. In both cases 200 k was the rate. Which sounds cheap, until you add in the cost of getting there. So I got more ambitious. In the middle of it all is a ST hotel, or 150000 kip for all night. For 500 k I got a takeaway Lao, and retired to my very modest room which boasted clean towels but not a lot more. A lot of noise filtered through from the street, but this Lao girl is 20, friendly but a little shy, and fun to be with. I'm getting into this. Then, about 90 minutes in I hear the sound of heavy footsteps on the stairs. Voices and then what sounds like radio chatter or walkie talkies. Police? Shakedown? Setup?? I hardly dared breath. What sounds like radio comms from outside my door. Eventually footsteps went away, and about half an hour later I bailed too, dropped my short term Lao GF back to her place of work and retired for the night. Decided that was enough adrenaline and ID stick to sneaky massages and plan to head back to Thailand and more familiar territory.

Other things to note: The Lao girls (including the online contact) refused oral and seemed disgusted by the concept. Cover was expected and given reports of disease circulating in other reports in this forum I sided with caution.

Interestingly I met a gentleman in my travels who said he had seen a lot of Lao girls, likely FL, in Nong Khai.

Overall: Lao is a lovely laid back place to relax for a few days, but in terms of P4 P you're far better off in Thailand for choice, accessibility, langage, food and even value for money when you take the travel / visa costs into account. And with the Lao girls looking for money youll probably find the best ones in Thailand soon enough anyway.

In another comparison, I think Indonesia Laos for lower cost p4 p, and I felt a lot more secure there too.

[Rammer11]

Hi Folks, been here 2 weeks primarily for work but this place is bone dry. Seems there are a lot of fish but am not casting in the correct pond. Your pointers are much requested and much awaited. Many thanks in advance.

Cheers.

Are.

P.S. Staying at the CPlaza hotel.

[VagigiLover]

Vientiane is on my mind. I was there in 2010 and stayed at Salana. Rented a scooter and as I was riding around noticed many massage places along the side streets. Popped in and wow some stunners. Got hooked on a petite spinner with a nice face and hard body. She massaged me and cock until happy. I think I saw her four times and she liked my cock, so she said. So, on my last day in Vientiane, she came over to my hotel with her massage kit. As she was walking in front of me, noticed the condom in her back pocket. Haha I knew that was a non-fitter. Had my own. And of course I use a cockring, so it was rock hard on all encounters.

Struggled to get into her, but what a great gal with a lovely body and her pussy was beautiful! Enjoyed every pump. Eventually during position change ditched the rubber and hit it bareback. It was awesome! When I was ready, she was eager to taste no mess. And she got it!

Loved the trip. Off to Macua for some spa action in March, then a shot for a few days to see if I can repeat in Vientiane.

[Crocodilexp]

Not there in person to check, but according to the girls I'm chatting with online. Yes. Plenty Chinese.

Observation from the ground: not many Chinese at all compared to 2019. They can enter Laos easily, but going back to PRC is a massive hassle.

[Nuttin Serious]

Just to understand: China is closed to foreigners, but yet Chinese are allowed in to infest Laos? Would that be the situation?

Not there in person to check, but according to the girls I'm chatting with online. Yes. Plenty Chinese.

[Golfinho]

One place I checked out the girl shook her head and said "only Chinese". So there are a few foreigners, maybe a lot of Chinese, around there.

Just to understand: China is closed to foreigners, but yet Chinese are allowed in to infest Laos? Would that be the situation?

[Crocodilexp]

One place I checked out the girl shook her head and said "only Chinese".

Maybe in the past, but given that China is closed, and not opening anytime soon, right now they would starve with that approach.

[Nuttin Serious]

Yes, it was this year, after the opening, and the numbers were higher than before Covid.

Not the least bit surprised there was a police crackdown sometime in the middle, those places are ideal for transmitting and the whole world was in grip of Covid measures.

What interests me, specifically, is police risk for a customer, particularly an obvious foreigner. Seems really difficult to gauge.

Indeed. A few anecdotes aren't necessarily an accurate picture either. There was comment pages back where someone found themselves in the middle of a major police presence but wasn't stopped from riding away. A comment was that the police were more likely there to check for weapons. One place I checked out the girl shook her head and said "only Chinese". Another place (the only one where I partook as I met a fairly chatty willing provider) my drinking companion pointed to another customer sitting with a girl in a gloomy spot and said distastely "he american". So there are a few foreigners, maybe a lot of Chinese, around there. I think there's a warmer welcome in the country next door thou.