Vientiane

[Buksida1]

I'll be in Vientiane next month; I understand that it's technically illegal to have a Laotian woman visit you in your hotel room. From the information here, do I understand that this is not well-enforced? Is having a Vietnamese woman visit you a loophole?

I had no problem at the Lao Poet Hotel. My lady friend was chatting to the hotel manager. French guys had their Lao girls there as well.

[Bkkmc]

Just looking to see if anyone has an update on any new or reliable massage parlors for he. I'm aware of the Plaza Hotel, but looking for something different if possible. Thanks!

[Va Steve]

I'll be in Vientiane next month; I understand that it's technically illegal to have a Laotian woman visit you in your hotel room. From the information here, do I understand that this is not well-enforced? Is having a Vietnamese woman visit you a loophole?

[Red Kilt]

On my last trip I stayed for 4 days. Stayed in a boutique hotel Anou Paradise hotel. I love this place because it is 100% girl friendly. There is no 10 pm rule about female guests, heck there is even a bar attached with ladies available for hire for 1500ST and 3000 LT. They don't even ask to register your female quest. <SNIP>
You need a little class. Don't be like the local expats. Dress nice, take the lady to a nice place for dinner and you will be fucking for free if you want.

Good outcome for you BD. Great report.

I don't think I would call Anou Paradise Hotel a "boutique" hotel though, as that implies it is small and selective and more expensive. At best it's a 2-star hotel and far from selective. I have used it as my "second" hotel for a 1-night booking when I knew I was going to get lucky. My work arrangements and colleagues prevented me from taking friends to my regular hotel because I needed to be discreet.

Good tip for a place to use though that is free from any problems. As you said, the bar next door is linked to the hotel so it doubles as a ST place for bar clients. 1500 THB (or just under 400, 000 LAK) is still the going rate so that's good for you too.

[Member #4591]

The price is in Thai Baht?

Yes. Did you think it was in Laos Kip? LOL you make me laugh as everyone knows Laos Kip and Thai Baht are the 2 currencies used in Laos.

[Liggi1]

I have the best luck finding girls on the social apps such as Bee Talk, Badoo, and We chat. Hit them up after you arrive and arrange dates. On my last trip I stayed for 4 days. Stayed in a boutique hotel Anou Paradise hotel. I love this place because it is 100% girl friendly. There is no 10 pm rule about female guests, heck there is even a bar attached with ladies available for hire for 1500ST and 3000 LT. Enjoy!

The price is in Thai Baht?

[Member #4591]

I have the best luck finding girls on the social apps such as Bee Talk, Badoo, and We chat. Hit them up after you arrive and arrange dates. On my last trip I stayed for 4 days. Stayed in a boutique hotel Anou Paradise hotel. I love this place because it is 100% girl friendly. There is no 10 pm rule about female guests, heck there is even a bar attached with ladies available for hire for 1500ST and 3000 LT. They don't even ask to register your female quest. To make a long story short, I fucked like crazy for 4 days straight BB and CIP. This trip I gave up on the Viet girls and stuck to the local scene. This will be my go to plan in the future every time. Looking forward to my next trip in January. This place is full of freebies and pay for play. It is like Bangkok was 10 years ago with the faring popularity phenomenon with the ladies. One piece of advice though. You need a little class. Don't be like the local expats. Dress nice, take the lady to a nice place for dinner and you will be fucking for free if you want. In 4 days, I fucked 4 P4P ladies and 3 local girls for free. Enjoy!

[Buksida1]

First night was a wipe out as I was tired from travelling. My friend from Tagged picked me up and drove me around to see Buddha park and have a relaxing afternoon by the river. After dinner she made me comfortable and we enjoyed each other until she returned home. Tagged worked very well. Next day, she drove me to the casino by the Friendship bridge. Lovely French wine upstairs in the casino, joking with the Thai gamblers and losing 500 baht. Then, more fun in the evening by the deserted rooftop pool. Following day, she went to her job so I looked for a massage parlour. White Lotus was OK, and a lady named Pon made sure the ending was happy. I met some French guys with their Lao girls by the pool and the girls told me that they were freelancers from Bor Ban Yang bar by the river and night market. Attractive girls in bikinis. They told me to go after 10 pm and to be aware of the many LBs. Another pick up spot is the Mekong hotel karaoke. Ladyboys on the street by the fountain.

Many authentic French and Italian restaurants with wonderful bread. I will return.

[Pwrmnd]

I tried a different massage place today. Cute girl, but no extras. I'm leaving tomorrow and not too broken up about it.

[Member #4566]

So next month I will be tramping through Saigon and Cambodia and I am looking at going to Vientiane on the side but internet airfare appears to be around $240 from SGN and Phnom Penh. That will give my wallet dyspepsia. Do you guys know some tricks or strategy for getting better airfares? Overland transportation seems to involve 18 hour bus rides and more and that is not an appetizing option.

[Chacal60]

I had some luck (HJ) with a different girl at the not-wearing-uniform massage shop on Chao Anou. So it's an option if you're tired of the other venues. BTW, whe expressed that she was willing to do a FS hotel visit, but wanted 8 k! She'd probably come negotiate down, but I didn't bother because that rarely works for me when we start so far apart and because she was thicker than I like 'them.

Like you I tried multiple massage joints with no luck besides pretty good massages. Then I found the goldmine where the provider not only offered relief but she immediately went for BBBJ. Pricey, yes, but expert service. She met me at my hotel a few times, and although a very attractive MILF, lets just say her body was made for BBBJ.

[Pwrmnd]

I had some luck (HJ) with a different girl at the not-wearing-uniform massage shop on Chao Anou. So it's an option if you're tired of the other venues. BTW, whe expressed that she was willing to do a FS hotel visit, but wanted 8 k! She'd probably come negotiate down, but I didn't bother because that rarely works for me when we start so far apart and because she was thicker than I like 'them.

[Pwrmnd]

I forgot to mention in my last post that after I visited the farms on Sithong road, I had assumed I could get a tuk tuk back. I was wrong. That was a long, dark walk. Not too scary, though. Actually, I noticed a ton of nice looking houses with gates, and even mansions, in this area, which is funny.

I tried a massage shop on Chao Anou with women dressed in matching uniforms. That's usually a bad sign that you won't get any extras and that was in fact the case here, even after I repeated the next day. But the massage was quite good and reasonably priced (90 k or 360 Baht). I even asked for extras but was shot down. She doesn't go to the hotel room either. She did tip me off that the girls in the massage shop next door do such things. So that's exactly where I took my business next.

At this shop next door, they don't have uniforms. Good sign. They assigned me a girl, who was quite cute so I didn't complain. She suggested I shower, another good sign. But then she studiously avoided the private parts during the massage, a bad sign. I was pretty eager for release at this point, and was willing to overpay a bit, so I asked for the special massage. She didn't even respond, which I'd never seen before. I tried again, just on the. 1% chance she misunderstood. Shot down again. I might go back and try the other girls there. I found a report on the internet about this shop having potential.

I tried Samlor bar one night. Twice, actually. I popped my head in around 8 PM and it was dead. Around 10 or 11 it was busy and soccer was on. A group of three Laotians walked in the bar: a friendly gay guy, a cute drunk girl, and an older deaf lady. That sounds like the start to a joke, but I'm just telling it straight. They were super friendly and wanted to join me, and because of the cute one I let them. But it later became clear that the cute one had a boyfriend ("sort of" so I didn't stay long. They wanted to stick me with the bill, I imagine, but I just paid my part and a little extra, and left. I didn't see much other available talent there, by the way. The night before I saw a sexy thing arriving on a motorcycle, but I didn't see her again. I'm sure FLs hang out there occasionally (suspected I saw a few already attached to guys), but it's not like it's packed with them. There were far more men than women on this night.

I also tried BPY one more time, this time earlier (8 PM) and on the weekend. Around 9 PM, several suspected FLs (wearing sexy dresses, or jeans with midrift exposed) came in, mostly in groups of 2-3. I'd bet that FLs are by far in the minority here, though. I saw lots of guys come in with cute Lao girls, which was irritating. I know many guys have had luck here, but it's no Soi 7 Beergarden. Again, more men than women, challenging to tell FLs from mere partiers, they tend to act somewhat shy, they mostly expect you to approach them, and not many hot ones. I didn't see a lot of hooking up taking place on the premises, except for one guy approaching two girls that I suspected were LBs. On the bright side, the food is decent here (by Loas standards, not by Thai standards) and surprisingly reasonably priced.

I poked my head in Kop Chai Deu several times, but it looked dead. I think there might be an inside area with girls? I only saw the outside seating area.

I saw only a few FLs on the street, sitting on motorbikes. Most looked like LBs.

A few things I didn't try but read about here or elsewhere. KTVs seem too expensive for my blood, and not convenient. I wanted to try some apps, but I couldn't even sign up without a phone number. I couldn't even get those free SMS services to work. Dalah spa sounds promising, but it's very far from the fountain area and tuk tuks seemed expensive and difficult to negotiate down in price. La Ong Dao Hotel 1 and 2 are also a bit far and the reviews aren't so great any more. The massage places near Scandinavian bakery only had aunties so far as I could see. One taxi driver seemed to be saying he could call a girl for me. I wish I had taken him up on that.

My overall opinion of Vientiane is that it's better than almost all the spots in Europe or the USA (you can score here at a reasonable price), but I wouldn't rank it high within asia (not in the top 15 cities). I also wouldn't really recommend it for tourism. The food is not great compared to Thailand, and most things aren't as cheap as you might expect given the infrastructure. It's not especially easy to get around. I suppose I'd like it more if Thailand didn't exist, but it really suffers from the obvious comparison. I wanted to like this place, but didn't and probably won't return.

[Pwrmnd]

I wish I could say I conquered Vientiane, but that's not how I played. I'll share my experiences anyway, in case someone else can build on it.

The first night I visited freelancer hangout BPY. There were some cute girls and some ugly girls, some of whom were no doubt FLs but perhaps not the majority. But most were with a guy or weren't attractive. As others have said, the girls mostly will just smile at you and let you do the hard work. I can see someone scoring here, but it's work and not a gimmee and you have to be bold.

I then asked a tuk tuk to take me to the brothels on Sithong. I negotiated down to 140 baht (paeng maak). He wanted 400 baht to stick around and take me back, but that felt awkward so I declined and sent him away. This was around 11:30 PM and I saw 5 or 6 open shops with girls visible. The best looking girl of the lot refused to make eye contact with me. Haha. She wasn't subtle, but actually I appreciated the clarity. So I moved on and found another girl, almost as cute and 18 why / o. There actually weren't as many cute ones as I was expecting. Despite speaking some Thai, the negotiation was more difficult than expected. But we figured it out. 800 baht up front, though I only had 1 k baht and paid that. We went to the shack in the back. I do mean shack. We lay down on the cheap floor mattress. No AC and not even a fan in every room. The shower room was just a water spigot. I started thinking the 1 k was too much. I got pretty hard when the clothes came off because she had a pretty tight body, with A cup breasts. Strangely, her face reminded me of high-school GF (even that she wasn't asian), which was a nice little fantasy. With good service, I'd be in love, but you probably won't get that out here. She let me kiss her a little bit on the lips, but no DFK, no BJ of any kind, no sucking nipples, etc. I had to nudge her to get on top, but that didn't last long. She wanted me to do the work. It was alright, but I'm not sure I'd do this again unless someone swears the quality is better is in the afternoon, or some of the shops promote better service.

Well, as sad as that was, it was probably the highlight of the trip. I tried the VTE spa. 130 k + 400 k for full service, as previously stated. Although I'm usually uncannily good at picking from lineups, I erred this time. She didn't look so great when the clothes came off. Not so firm and with a bit of a tummy. I don't mind a small tummy if it's firm, but this wasn't a pretty sight. We took a very brief shower. She asked if I wanted a massage and I shook my head no. She offered some licking and BBBJ but her technique just wasn't working for me. Some with covered FS. We just didn't click, I guess. I couldn't finish even after asking for a BJ. I think this place is ok, but I just made a bad choice. It was pouring down rain after, so I sat in the girl's waiting room for a while. I saw a super cute one in pajamas (not sure why she wan't on duty) chatting with her asian boyfriend (Korean? All the girls here are above average, though I didn't see many 10's besides the one I mentioned. All Viet so far as I could tell. I'd swear that when an asian customer stopped by, he pulled a larger lineup than I did (20 vs. 10). Maybe I'm just being suspicious, though.

To be continued.

[ShinShin]

Made a two day visit out of curiosity. I had the best intentions of getting to Sithong Rd. , especially with all the great directions, but I am a lazy monger from a near-arctic climate and it was hot as hell. So Ventiane Plaza Massage it was. Two visits, both decent. I've now moved Vietnam up several places in my "Must Monger" list.

Each visit was mid-afternoon which seemed to be a slow time: I was just assigned the one girl sitting in the office. Not sure if she was all that was available, though on the first visit there was clearly at least one other: see below. As it happened it wasn't a problem because each of the issued girls was at least an 8.

The lineup will get bigger late afternoon, good time to go is about 5-6 pm. The biggest lineup I have seen was about 15. I probably had about 15-20 sessions here in the past many years, and none was considered unpleasant, all average or above to very good. This place is still the best bet for tourists. Vietnam girls provide a much better service than Lao girls in general and more fun and lively as well. Lao girls are mostly dead fish getting deader and deader in recent years. Nowadays it is quite hard to find a good looking Lao girl with good service and cheerful attitude. Things have changed a lot here.