San Salvador

[Tomasb]

Wanted to finish up my report on my trip to ES especially SS and Lips. Lips, in my estimation, is lame based on my three strike policy (see below). In my earlier report, I described how I went to the club the first night and met a very attractive stripper who goes by the name of Sinadri. After she provided her cell# when I asked her if she was interested in meeting me for a beach trip, she never returned my call or text. STRIKE ONE.

Having spent several lonely days at a beach town, I decided one evening to take a one hour trip to SS via taxi from the beach to see if I could find someone different at LIPS. The taxi driver did not want to wait to closing time at 2am and neither did I so we went with the understanding that we would return to the beach town at 11pm. Upon arrival, I had to deal with several unattractive girls pestering me for tips: sitting on my lap, massaging my back, stroking my arm, etc., none of which I had requested or wanted.

Finally, an attractive slender girl (Brandy), who spoke some english, came over and I explained my situation and that I was looking for someone to come to my place on the beach after their shift was over that evening. She agreed to come with her private driver and even said she would find another girl to join us and we discussed various prospects through the evening. I finally told her to decide on the other girl. Thinking we had a a deal, I left with the taxi driver at 11pm secure in the knowledge, or so I thought, that I had arranged a nice, no hassle late evening for myself. Alas, once again, no call or text from the girl and she never appeared. STRIKE TWO.

Finally, on my last evening in SS, I went over to the club again. This time I had already spent several hours with a girl from KF so the pressure was off if I could not find another girl. This was a Monday evening again so I saw the girl (Sinadri) from my first visit though barely spoke to her as a few guys were dominating her time in the back and VIP rooms. I decided to focus on a pretty little spinner called Christina. Once again explaining that I was staying at a nice hotel in SS and would she like to come over after the shift. She quickly agreed and as it was about closing time, she said that she would come about 3am to my hotel. She also asked me for $3 for the boutique sex shop in the bar, which I gave to her as I figured they were presumably for condoms. In my mind, that donation sealed the deal. Also, gave her my cell number, room number, and exact address of hotel. Once again no phone call or text from her. STRIKE THREE.

So there you have it. I have to believe based on my experiences, that most of these girls don't go home with the patrons but try to drain every little buck they can out of you while you are there. If your intent is to find a girl after their shift is over, I recommend that you keep my experiences in mind. The last girl I now believe was trying to weasel a lousy $3 off me and had no intention of meeting me later. Most of the girls in there are low class, little gordita's, who have one or two kids they are trying to support. They are not there because they enjoy sex, want to party, etc. They are just too lazy or stupid to find something else to do to earn an income.

So go to LIPS with my experiences in mind. Also, the other lap dances I had after the first girl did not even come close to the first experience detailed in my first post about Sinadri. What is really annoying about the place are the amount of girls who will not stop bothering you but what was particularly bad was how they wasted my time by promising to meet me later but not following through.

Also, as a PS, I should add that KISSFRESH did come through. Carlos, the maitre d'puta at this casa, provided a gal for me on my final night for $110 for two hours at my hotel, which is a good price as it is $80 if you go to his casa for the same amount of time. Also, he explained that the girl was new -- she was -- and provided excellent service -- she did. Her name is Jasmine and she is 23 with a nice personality and was very GFE. He sent over two girls so I could choose, which was not difficult to select as the other girl barely looked at me. Also, I called Carlos several times during the trip to request Chelsy, who was spectacular on a prior visit to my hotel. But she had been sick for a week so not sure what the situation is in regard to her. Jasmine also confirmed her illness so it's a bit of a mystery. I actually thought about requesting a girl to come to my hotel on the beach from KF but decided not to as the cost would run to $350 for 12 hours plus another $50 for taxi fare for someone I did not know. Given Chelsy's prior performance, I may have considered it except she was not available due to her 'illness'.

I don't really envision going back to ES as overall it is not that great a travel destination. It's expensive for Central America, there is not enough to see or do, San Salvador, the capital, has limited attractions, and the beaches were very disappointing. Safety is also presumably an issue but I did not have any problems or concerns in this area as I traveled cautiously and asked a lot of questions as I moved about. The only place I really liked was the coffee mountain area in the western part of the country and the pretty town of Ataco, which is located in this area.

[Tomasb]

Lips:

Much has been noted about this SS club but I thought that I would throw in my two cents worth.

I arrived earlier this evening around 7PM and near shift change. It was really dead in there at first though it could be because it is Monday. At first I was not that impressed as some little gorditas kept coming up to me and working the hustle for drinks, massages, etc. One girl had bad breath. Give me a break! She also wanted $2 just for stroking my leg and trying to figure out where my wallet was located. I was almost ready to bail but has frequently been mentioned on this board, it only takes one.

I blew several of them off too, which was fun. After several minutes, I spotted an absolute gorgeous girl about 20-22 yrs old, light brown hair, tall for a Latin girl or was it the 6 inch pumps, very slender, and obviously no kids yet with a belly button ring (as an aside, it is also nice that girls don't have tatoos due to the associated gang stigma). I followed her to the stage to watch her dance and she eventually goes all nude. I lay down a few bucks and she showed me all her special places up close and personal and allowed some significant touching of the nips. Two older pervs were also at the table and had no cash. Just watching so she never came over.

Shortly thereafter about 40 girls got on stage, as it was a shift change, and the customers can see who is there for the rest of the evening. She came over to me after this lame ass parade and asked if I want a private dance and naturally I said yes. We retired to a semi-private room for a $15 lap dance. She immediately strips nude and gets on her knees on two chairs in front of me and stuffs her delicious tush and shaved poon in my face and allows me to simply go to it for about 15 minutes. Anyplace I wanted to explore. Simply unbelievable. Finally flipped over facing me for further explorations. This seemed to go on for a lifetime and I was expecting some ripoff but she never asked for a drink or attempted to charge extra.

I gave her a $7 tip and asked if she wanted to go to the beach and she agreed to meet me on Thursday, as that appears to be her next day off. I am leaving tomorrow for the beach with another girl from KF (maybe) though she is only going for the day and evening. However, it is only an hour away so I can always return to SS if the strip club girl actually still seems willing. You never know if they follow through on these things but if she does it will be heaven. I left the club after that nice dinner at the Y and frankly really did not want to hang out for several more hours to see if she wanted to return to my hotel room. Some real low lifes in there in my judgement. She gave me her number and I just texted her so we shall see if her interest is legit.

Oh yeah, I should mention that my taxi driver and a waiter at a sushi place in Colonia Escalon were high on a casa called Secretaries. I wandered over there after sushi as it a block from the restaurant and a mini-mall. It's across the street from the sushi place, up the street to the corner. One block on your right. You can tell you arrived by the armed guards in front of the house, which has a 101 number on the front door. One of the well spoken guards told me that there was a $10 entry fee, which included a beer and the chance to negotiate direct with the girls. The waiter said earlier that the range is $15 to $100 depending on the quality of the chica. I decided to check out LIPS first as it also in this area and the house seemed a bit run down, which made me wonder about the quality of the girls inside.

Although I made no attempt to bring anyone back to the hotel, Intercontinental is probably only a 15 minute walk from KF, and is right across the street from Metrocentro. Interesting about what you said about the $35, I do remember Carlos (although not his name, but yeah, he seemed to be the maitre d-hotel/puta finder), and seemed like a pretty good guy. What I also remember is that all the chicas seemed pretty bored and did not make any real eye contact, but I guess if there is one that likes you, she really goes the distance. SS is really spread out, and there seems to be no real central party zone like LLeras or Miraflores, but I found the cabs cheap enough and very reliable.

When I finish with someone in any casa, my attitude is always get the hell out of there, I have got what I want, and figure I can come back later or the next day. If you stay, maybe they think you actually care about them!

[Tomasb]

Theoretically, taking a girl out of KF and then getting her number sounds like a good idea. I imagine getting her to then come to your room after 8pm is an option but traveling elsewhere outside of SS is problematic as I am under the impression all the KF chicas work Monday thru Saturday (I. E. No part-timers) so they have no time to travel unless you can squeeze in a Sunday evening/Monday trip.

I am going to LIPS late afternoon today to catch both shifts so I hope to have success there finding someone who wants a free trip to beach.

Although I made no attempt to bring anyone back to the hotel, Intercontinental is probably only a 15 minute walk from KF, and is right across the street from Metrocentro. Interesting about what you said about the $35, I do remember Carlos (although not his name, but yeah, he seemed to be the maitre d-hotel/puta finder), and seemed like a pretty good guy. What I also remember is that all the chicas seemed pretty bored and did not make any real eye contact, but I guess if there is one that likes you, she really goes the distance. SS is really spread out, and there seems to be no real central party zone like LLeras or Miraflores, but I found the cabs cheap enough and very reliable.

When I finish with someone in any casa, my attitude is always get the hell out of there, I have got what I want, and figure I can come back later or the next day. If you stay, maybe they think you actually care about them!

[Furysys]

My chica told me that for the two hrs, she got $35, so KF takes over half. Certainly, if possible, the best is to take maybe a 1 or 2 hr session, and get the girl-s email or number, and make the private arrangement. I cannot see any reason why she would have lied about that, and given the arrangement at KF, one figures they would take at least half.

[Professor 1]

You don't really need to call KF to send you a girl. You can make your own deals with the girls in *private. They wouldn't get the whole $80 anyway. IMHO I would start with $50 for an hour. I couldn't imagine any girl at KF making more than $25/30 per hour minus tips at KF.

Art is right, and his advice is spot-on in all of Latin America. These girls do not make $$, and it's best to keep the house out of the cut when you see them outside the club. If the club charges $80, for example, it is keeping at least $30.

[Artisttyp]

It has been an interesting and bizarre few days from my last post. I did call Carlos at KF to ask that he send over the quite attractive chica that I had spoken to earlier at KF (see prior post). She arrived an hour late in mid-afternoon at my hotel accompanied by an escort from KF who recommended that I book her for 2 hours; not the one hour I had requested. In retrospect it was a mistake to only schedule her for one hour as this young chica rocked my mundo. Oddly enough, even though the KF menu price said it was one hour for $100, Carlos only asked for $80. She was so good, and given the cost, I should have requested two hrs. However, 1 hour provides unlimited access and fun. No holes barred so to speak. A porn star experience.

Originally, I was considering having her come to the beach with me starting tomorrow (Monday). However, the weather here has been just awful with a tropical depression storm settled in over most of CA. Terrific downpours with closed highways to the beach from SS and general chaotic travel conditions. It may clear on Tuesday, in which case, I will reconsider inviting the girl down. Because of the cost (as I am taking her out of KF) I am also thinking that tomorrow may be a good day to check out LIPS and see if I can pull someone from there instead for a little beach break. Do any of you guys know if the LIPS girls are agreeable to this idea? Additionally, over the weekend I had an unfortunate and preventable accident created by a real bonehead that has created a minor physical issue for me. With the help of an excellent doctor in SS that issue should be only a minor hindrance by mid-week.

You don't really need to call KF to send you a girl. You can make your own deals with the girls in *private. They wouldn't get the whole $80 anyway. IMHO I would start with $50 for an hour. I couldn't imagine any girl at KF making more than $25/30 per hour minus tips at KF.

If she doesn't bite offer incentive my possibly extending the session if things go well and pay her cab fare. These girls make nothing through KF.

Members have taken girls out of lips many times.

The rain is a huge bummer. It does not shut the fuck up!

Good Luck

[Tomasb]

It has been an interesting and bizarre few days from my last post. I did call Carlos at KF to ask that he send over the quite attractive chica that I had spoken to earlier at KF (see prior post). She arrived an hour late in mid-afternoon at my hotel accompanied by an escort from KF who recommended that I book her for 2 hours; not the one hour I had requested. In retrospect it was a mistake to only schedule her for one hour as this young chica rocked my mundo. Oddly enough, even though the KF menu price said it was one hour for $100, Carlos only asked for $80. She was so good, and given the cost, I should have requested two hrs. However, 1 hour provides unlimited access and fun. No holes barred so to speak. A porn star experience.

Originally, I was considering having her come to the beach with me starting tomorrow (Monday). However, the weather here has been just awful with a tropical depression storm settled in over most of CA. Terrific downpours with closed highways to the beach from SS and general chaotic travel conditions. It may clear on Tuesday, in which case, I will reconsider inviting the girl down. Because of the cost (as I am taking her out of KF) I am also thinking that tomorrow may be a good day to check out LIPS and see if I can pull someone from there instead for a little beach break. Do any of you guys know if the LIPS girls are agreeable to this idea? Additionally, over the weekend I had an unfortunate and preventable accident created by a real bonehead that has created a minor physical issue for me. With the help of an excellent doctor in SS that issue should be only a minor hindrance by mid-week.

Although I made no attempt to bring anyone back to the hotel, Intercontinental is probably only a 15 minute walk from KF, and is right across the street from Metrocentro. Interesting about what you said about the $35, I do remember Carlos (although not his name, but yeah, he seemed to be the maitre d-hotel/puta finder), and seemed like a pretty good guy. What I also remember is that all the chicas seemed pretty bored and did not make any real eye contact, but I guess if there is one that likes you, she really goes the distance. SS is really spread out, and there seems to be no real central party zone like LLeras or Miraflores, but I found the cabs cheap enough and very reliable.

When I finish with someone in any casa, my attitude is always get the hell out of there, I have got what I want, and figure I can come back later or the next day. If you stay, maybe they think you actually care about them!

[Furysys]

Although I made no attempt to bring anyone back to the hotel, Intercontinental is probably only a 15 minute walk from KF, and is right across the street from Metrocentro. Interesting about what you said about the $35, I do remember Carlos (although not his name, but yeah, he seemed to be the maitre d-hotel/puta finder), and seemed like a pretty good guy. What I also remember is that all the chicas seemed pretty bored and did not make any real eye contact, but I guess if there is one that likes you, she really goes the distance. SS is really spread out, and there seems to be no real central party zone like LLeras or Miraflores, but I found the cabs cheap enough and very reliable.

When I finish with someone in any casa, my attitude is always get the hell out of there, I have got what I want, and figure I can come back later or the next day. If you stay, maybe they think you actually care about them!

[Furysys]

went back to have another goround with Miss Brittany and can honestly say that she was as good as it gets. 2 hrs, worth every nickel, faboulous BBBJ & CIM, she was probably one of the best I have ever had in a casa

As always the mileage may vary, but Ì can definitely recommend this place in SS

[Tomasb]

As a semi-frequent visitor to Lima I thought that I should add my first impressions of San Salvador as I arrived yesterday. I wanted to see Kiss Fresh first off as it the most mentioned place in this section. Overall, it was quite positive though most of the girls, even though young, are little gorditas. The main guy there (Carlos) who functions as sort of a Maitre d'putas speaks very good English and was very helpful. After my first session with a friendly lite brown hair chica, he wanted to know how it was.

When I arrived at the door after the obligatory patdown, a girl led me to a couch and Carlos came over and explained that it was $40 for an hour with a chica, however, if I picked someone immediately from the line-up, it was only $35 plus a Corona. Most of the girls who strolled by in the line-up did not provide a lot of eye contact. Never a good sign. But the final gal did with a big smile included so she won the lottery. I ended up buying her drink ($10) though I did have the option of heading upstairs immediately and skipping the drink. Total cost with $5 propina was $50. The rooms and general ambience have been well documented elsewhere on the board so I will skip any further description of that aspect. It appears that multiple pops are allowed as after the first go, she immediately dived back in for the 2nd BBBJ, asking permission, of course, first. It was sort of a half assed CIM but overall a yeoman like performance by the chica.

Afterwards, we went back to the bar on the main floor and she was hanging with me perhaps a little bit too long. Like Charlie Sheen says 'I don't pay for sex, I pay them to leave'. Finally she got the hint and I had some opportunity to see if I missed someone else on the first viewing. I also talked to the helpful Carlos and mentioned that I was traveling to other parts of the country and hinted that I was looking for company. He brought over a super hot, thin, gal with lustrous black straight hair. Maybe the only real hottie in there. In my mind, a nine or ten on the Richter scale. Anyway, he offered me a 'deal' where I could take this chica to the beach for 12 hours at the same price as 6 hours. Well, she is super hot but the price was quite steep for this part of the world though I have the weekend to decide if I want to take take the plunge since I am not going to the playa until Monday. We also went over the house menu and some of the girls various tastes (I. E. Anal anyone?) and he also noted that they do 'house calls'. I think its $100 for an hour/$70 for 1/2 hr. Also, a new one for me is the 3 girl or HAAT Trick special. That would be $135 for an hour. Hmmmmmm.

On balance, compared to Lima or as a specific example, Tequila Rocks, the whole setup is quite a bargain. However, the city itself appears to have its limitations, which is described below. For me flying from the American west, it's an easy and inexpensive flight compared to the 8 hour haul to Lima and the red eye return. From Houston, Continental leaves for SS at 5:50 and arrives at 7:50. With the one hour time difference that's 3 hours of flight time.

On a general note, it rained all day here (its rainy season), and there does not appear a lot to do. The city is really spread out. From my hotel in Zona Rosa to Kiss Fresh was $6 or $7 for the cab one way. To go to the Multiplaza from Zona, it's $5 one way. I tried to do some limited strolling today and it was very difficult to cross the street. Almost impossible in some instances. It is simply not pedestrian friendly like say Miraflores in Lima. I also went to the best museo in the city, a short stroll from my hotel and it ain't Paris. In fact, the entry fee is $1. 50 and when I gave her $10, she did not have enough change and gave me an IOU, which I cashed in on my exit. Safety, at least, in Zona Rosa does not appear to be an issue. Not to mention the guys toting the AK-47's at every business door must be an effective deterent.

I will be visiting other parts of the country such as a nice lake town and the beach so I have not formed a complete opinion yet of ES. I have an American women friend who is arriving in a few days and we are traveling to a little town for a short visit as she has work in SS after that. Since this is a platonic friendship, having Fresh Kiss as a sideline option is a great alternative.

More to come. So to speak.

Made it to the famous Kiss Fresh today, somewhat of an interesting place. First, note the address, it is on Calle El Algodon, but actually down the hill maybe 1000 ft from where U-turn right at the Diamante restaurant. It is easy enough to find, first they have the website address (wow, how hitech is that?) on the front of the building, second there is a guy with a big shotgun. You get the patdown, and go in, it is $4 cover, which includes one drink.

It is a little disconcerting for this guy, used to as I am to Colombian casas, they have four screens showing XXX porn, screens which probably could be better used to show NFL football. The music (reggaeton, which I do not like), is also blaring away. Once you get past that, the chicas come out, I'd say there were about 20 of them, and they stand in a semicircle in front of you, looking extremely bored. I said I wanted to finish the beer, and did so, they all shuffled back to the other room.

In the end, I choose Brittany, who was quite friendly after she got a drink out of me ($10), and then up we went for $40 hour long ride. They have these menus on the couches downstairs, as a Canuck and a hockey fan, I had to like the 'haht-trick'idea, it is $135, but I don't think it is really worth it. She was pretty good, gave me the nice masaje, then BBBJ, and we made a pretty good mess of the bed.

Seems like a good enough place, I am breaking the unwritten rule by going back and seeing her again before I leave here, but she was fun, so what the hell. Would recommend it to anyone, and it is very close to the International, just a 10 minute walk up the hill, area seems very safe.

[Furysys]

Made it to the famous Kiss Fresh today, somewhat of an interesting place. First, note the address, it is on Calle El Algodon, but actually down the hill maybe 1000 ft from where you turn right at the Diamante restaurant. It is easy enough to find, first they have the website address (wow, how hitech is that?) on the front of the building, second there is a guy with a big shotgun. You get the patdown, and go in, it is $4 cover, which includes one drink.

It is a little disconcerting for this guy, used to as I am to Colombian casas, they have four screens showing XXX porn, screens which probably could be better used to show NFL football. The music (reggaeton, which I do not like), is also blaring away. Once you get past that, the chicas come out, I´d say there were about 20 of them, and they stand in a semicircle in front of you, looking extremely bored. I said I wanted to finish the beer, and did so, they all shuffled back to the other room.

In the end, I choose Brittany, who was quite friendly after she got a drink out of me ($10), and then up we went for $40 hour long ride. They have these menus on the couches downstairs, as a Canuck and a hockey fan, I had to like the ´haht-trick´idea, it is $135, but I don´t think it is really worth it. She was pretty good, gave me the nice masaje, then BBBJ, and we made a pretty good mess of the bed.

Seems like a good enough place, I am breaking the unwritten rule by going back and seeing her again before I leave here, but she was fun, so what the hell. Would recommend it to anyone, and it is very close to the International, just a 10 minute walk up the hill, area seems very safe.

[Tomasb]

I am traveling next week from the US for a couple of weeks. I can barely find any information on safety issues or any other general discussions, such as travel blogs, regarding the current situation in ES; mongering or otherwise, so it should be an interesting trip.

In SS, I plan to check out KF and Lips, stay in a small beach town with some surfing opp's, take a spanish course, and visit a mountain/lago town called Suchitoto. Also, staying in a relatively new hotel in SS (Suites Las Palmas) but don't know if it is GF. If anyone has any info on this hotel, please let me know.

Hope to have an informative report upon my return. Stay posted.

PS: There is a good fare to ES from Houston on CA.

[MacGyver22]

Reading through these forums has definitely got me excited for a trip down to ES. It seems like a perfect quick trip getaway from Texas, plus I've seen some great last minute airfairs ( $300).

I wish this forum was a bit more active and current. As a quick recap, it seems that KF is the end-all-be-all of SS mongering. From what I've read about it, the setup seems great. Sorta like a poor mans FKK German club, or maybe a Therma in Rio? What I'm less certain of down here is how the take out or TLN service is. I love heading to a place where you can hang out and take girls back as you wish, but at the end of the night, I love to have someone to take back to the hotel. I don't really know how to go about setting this up down here. My Spanish is passable, but really not too good. Over the phone can be pretty tough for me.

In general, I'm not super worried about safety (I don't do blatenlty stupid or gringo things). I don't mind heading into so-so neighborhoods, but I am not dumb either, I don't blend in with the locals real well, so I am cognizant about that.

What do people who are more experienced with SS do for a TLN? I'd love to know more and keep watching for the last minute flight specials to experience it for myself.

Thanks,

Mac

[BaitAndSwitch]

Been there a long time, 15 years I can fill your ears, I go back in 2 weeks, just back here for 3 weeks and I have been all over the world, Taiwan, Thailand, Indo, Costa Rica{expensive, attitude and AIDS} Colombians are hotand is the the best women in the world but is is far away, unless your spanish is good, well then

'tropicool' is the word

I know all the street girls, and they are just as good or better than the houses and the strip clubs, well they are strippers out to make that chit for drinks

I have a friend there, he is old and ornery but he knows everywhere give him 20 bux, he will watch your back and knows who where when and how, the driveins are good, La Pradera, 8 hours $15 and even some cheap ones, las vegas, puerto rico, $7 4 hours

I have many cell numbers of gals, maybe 10-20 and they are all clean, and street girls I have been there since 1983, and was in the original Seisa first in 87

Let me know but no asshole gringos, respect the women, they are mothers, or as we used to do, we give you an hour to get to the airport if you are disrespectful and rude I know all the 'hommies'

This is where I live and I am a Carolina surfer boy enough for now.

Hey man,

I want to come down and surf and hobby. Any suggestions on good places? Las Flores/km69 looks good but *very* pricey. There's have to be some good safe cheap places to surf and get chicas down there?

[Riodulce]

Anyone know of a club named Evolution? Any info appreciated.