Anti-Sex Pervert MathewCob's Disinformation Campaign

[Ekspat]

The only outcome would be that it refers to an age gap of 10 years regardless of age.

So it would be against the law if I (51) sit with a 39 years old lady in a Starbucks and have a coffee?

[Nvslim]

Not intersted in pussy but only in the law. Think pretty soon you will be on everyones ignore list.

He's on mine.

Slim

[Pute Nut]

- irrelevant stuff snipped.

Now lets get on to the wording, a minor 12 years or younger or who is 10 years or more his junior"

I'm not sure if English is your first language Pute Nut but the key word here is the word " or "

The word "or" seperates the two parts of the sentence so that the seperate sentence becomes only, (or 10 years his junior).

Yes. 10 years his junior of what number, this is the key. 10 years the junior 0f 30/40/50/60/70?

The only outcome would be that it refers to an age gap of 10 years regardless of age.

MathewCob,

Will all due respect for your great language, legal and boardreading skills, I hope you don't mind me trying to explain this section of RA 7610 once again, in as simple terms as possible.

Section 10 b refers to minors (ie 17 years of age or younger). If that "kept" minor is 12 or younger it's applicable in all cases. If that minor is aged 13-17, it is only applicable if the age gap between keeper and kept minor is 10 years or more. The law is not applicable to men "keeping" non-minors.

Pute Nut how much are you paying me for the law lessons LOL.

As much (or rather little) as I would pay you for your English lessons, Mr Seperate.

[Wicked Roger]

where's your trip reports dude. you pop up like a sunflower with a sole discussion point about barfines and **** stuff?

not intersted in pussy but only in the law. think pretty soon you will be on everyones ignore list.

good observation ff and he seems a back room lawyer. definition of child is 18 or under so he now says any man marrying anyone with more than a 10 years age gap is breaking the law. that mean many pinoys will join the westerners in jail as well lol add the church who recently married my 50 year old mate to his 24 year old pinay bride . he must be a child abuser of his wife but then it is the church so it would turn a blind eye lol.

and what about my mate in cebu living with their ladies for many years with a 42 year age gap, there are so many that if mc is correct we may as well report to jail on arrival at immigration lol.

mc is just an evangelist with no idea of the country etc. the crack down in ac is likely a shake down nothing more form those i know who live there and life continues as is.

one last thought, the us military will be back / are back and the ones i saw in burgos and ac did not seem to care at all, they had lots of fun with girls all over them.

while this is giving me some amusement i really think this should be placed in a separate thread as it is clogging the ac thread.

mc is probably having a chuckle in amish home stroking his beard or something else.

[Member #4214]

This is so fucked up. My first thought is that many people who make a living in the bars must be hurting now and this must really crimp business. Mongers in Angeles should be doing what they can to both patronize and protect those in the industry. Methods and protocols appear to be different even from bar to bar. Hoping mongers go into each and just be receptive to however the mamasan directs regarding take-out protocols.

Note the "victim" is 18 years old and an adult, nor is there is any mention she was being held against her will .

[Western787]

Note the "victim" is 18 years old and an adult, nor is there is any mention she was being held against her will, was coerced, forced, or threatened by some third party to perform such (prospective) act with the undercover operative. Its only a matter of time before the NGO's and State demand reverse stings to target actual tourists. The bottom line now is: simply by being a bar girl. One is deemed a victim of [CodeWord908], even if the "victims" insist they were not "trafficked" and insist at all times they were acting upon their own free will.

http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php/...deWord909]</a>

Three indicted for [CodeWord908]

Published : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 00:00 Article Views : 114 Written by : Bernard Galang

Angeles City. Members of the Pampanga Criminal Investigation and Detection Team arrested two women employees of a bar on Fields Avenue in Bgy. Balibago here over the weekend during an entrapment operation against [CodeWord908].

Chief Insp. Bienvenido Reydado, CIDT chief, said the suspects received Php1, 000 marked money from a poseur-customer in exchange for a sex with an 18-year-old bar worker at around 11:40 pm.

Senior Insp. Romel dela Vega said Ronalyn Reyes. 23, and Mary Grace Santiago. 28, waitress and cashier, respectively of Angels Viking Night Bar, yielded the marked bills.

The bar owner, identified through the business registration permit as Elma Pila Yun, was not around during the raid.

Reyes, Santiago and Yun were charged with violation of the Anti-Trafficking In Person Act of 2003.

[FreebieFan]

for the guys that are saying the human traffic law can be used in so many different ways, twisted and turned till it fits the crime i 100% agree.

what we are also forgetting is that for many years now the boys down at station 4, especially when loui tan was head man, have their own very unique way of making any charge that they want stick.

as i'm new to this forum i won't push my luck too far and explain,

where's your trip reports dude. you pop up like a sunflower with a sole discussion point about barfines and **** stuff?

not intersted in pussy but only in the law. think pretty soon you will be on everyones ignore list.

yeah wr, defo a pp in disguise type.

you; ve been around angeles a long time you say yet have accumlated 9 posts in a short time.

if it looks like shit and stinks like shit then it probably is what?

[Pete Benetar]

a recent fishing expedition.

Looks like a lot of fun to reel in this quarry though perhaps tasting those meaty filets even funner. Well done and thanks for posting.

[MathewCob]

rk,

the cob is obviously trying to stir up some some s*it here, but for the sake of clarity this is how ra 7610 is worded:

"a minor. 12 years or younger or who is 10 years or more his junior"

cob gives me pink pearl vibes. philippines can be a tricky place to navigate and google will not always tell you the full story. lol

this must be an important law as its being discussed at the moment on another board.

i think everyone except pute nut is in agreement that the age a person is classed as a child in philippines law is under 18 and most of ra 7610 refers to the laws regarding crimes against a girl under 18.

it does however go on to crimes that were commited to children under the age of 12 and this is where the rules change, as apposed to the rules for an under 18 girl the rules for the even younger age of girls under 12 will be dealt separately by a charge of [CodeWord123] (which carries the harsher penalty of life inprisonment)

the under 12 special section is not to be confused with the age of which a person is a minor, which has always been under 18 years old.

now lets get on to the wording, a minor 12 years or younger or who is 10 years or more his junior"

i'm not sure if english is your first language pute nut but the key word here is the word " or "

the word "or" seperates the two parts of the sentence so that the seperate sentence becomes only, (or 10 years his junior).

yes. 10 years his junior of what number, this is the key, 10 years the junior 0f 30/40/50/60/70?

the only outcome would be that it refers to an age gap of 10 years regardless of age.

pute nut how much are you paying me for the law lessons lol.

[Ibn Buttita]

I'm a novice in China, so I wan't some feedback on where I went wrong. I am posting in the Beijing forum because that was my last stop.

The full version of the above was also posted on the North China-Beijung forum recently under the Title "Outcall?" by Feebles (a first post). I'm not sure what that signifies.

I'm a novice in China, so I wan't some feedback on where I went wrong. I am posting in the Beijing forum because that was my last stop.

I don't believe in sticking your head in the sand like an ostrich in the face of bad mongering developments (believe me, I've faced them in my country of residence) , and it seems like there's something (a lot?) to what MathewCob writes. But reading his posts you would think that they basically locked down everything from Fields to Perimeter, which seems to be contradicted by other real time reports. So to anyone currently in AC: please keep the reports coming in so we have enough evidence to judge. I have a ticket for mid August and would like to have some idea of the situation on the ground.

Thanks!

[MathewCob]

RK,

The Cob is obviously trying to stir up some some s*it here, but for the sake of clarity this is how RA 7610 is worded:

"a minor. 12 years or younger or who is 10 years or more his junior"

Cob gives me Pink Pearl vibes. Philippines can be a tricky place to navigate and google will not always tell you the full story. LOL

Sorry your wrong again in the RA7610 group of laws a minor (child) is classed as anyone under the age of 18, here is the full mandate if anyone cares to read,

http://www.lawphil.net/statutes/repa...7610_1992.html

It also states that anyone indulging in the use of prostitutes or any kind of paid sex with anyone regardless of her / his age is liable to prosecution.

So basically any girl that is barfined even if over 18 comes under the [CodeWord908] law that is a non bailable offence with a sentence of 20 year in prison.

Sorry Pute Nut if your going to take me on at least get the facts right.

[Wicked Roger]

RK,

The Cob is obviously trying to stir up some some s*it here, but for the sake of clarity this is how RA 7610 is worded:

"a minor. 12 years or younger or who is 10 years or more his junior"

Cob gives me Pink Pearl vibes. Philippines can be a tricky place to navigate and google will not always tell you the full story. LOL

MC gives me IJM evangelist type vibes as this subject was discussed in detail earlier this year. RTFF General Information. And a monger who says he is also a lawyer clearly outlined what you and RK said. MC maybe can't read legal text properly. As if this applied to all then everyone I saw at the coffee shop today was breaking the law when they sat with their girl, and then lets get really silly. You can't marry them either as you broke the law by being with them.

MC just posted a China FR in the AC thread so maybe he has lost his way but this debate has run and run and if MC view is correct let all move to Bangkok LOL.

[Pute Nut]

You conveniently left out the word MINOR, that is, under 18 years of age, in your quote.

Viz."foreigner in the company of a pinay which (sic) is more than 10 years his junior (AND A MINOR) and not directly related to him found in a hotel room together.

RK,

The Cob is obviously trying to stir up some some s*it here, but for the sake of clarity this is how RA 7610 is worded:

"a minor, 12 years or younger or who is 10 years or more his junior"

Cob gives me Pink Pearl vibes. Philippines can be a tricky place to navigate and google will not always tell you the full story. LOL

[MathewCob]

For the guys that are saying the human traffic law can be used in so many different ways, twisted and turned till it fits the crime I 100% agree.

What we are also forgetting is that for many years now the boys down at station 4, especially when Loui Tan was head man, have their own very unique way of making any charge that they want stick.

As I'm new to this forum I won't push my luck too far and explain.

[Western787]

Clearly The main purposely is protect minors from trafficking, but law should protect also trafficking of much aged people, be it for prostituition or else. Minors can be tricked, and The assumption is that they are not in a position to decide voluntarily, due to age / maturity, even if they say "I am happy to do that" and meaning that. But also people above Legal age can be tricked and brought into trafficking.

Just my two cents, ie the matter is very complicated and not easy to be defined in here.

Everyone GETS the under 18 minor issue, as they cannot give valid "consent" per se, however you've otherwise just proven my point, the term "[CodeWord908]" can now mean whatever the proponent says it means, even if it results in people being locked up in prison for years, some without even the benefit of a trial. That is how a witch hunt works.