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  1. #89

    Philippine Anti-Trafficking Law

    You can read the full law here (http://www.gov.ph/2013/02/06/republic-act-no-10364/) on the Philippine government's Web site. SEC. 4. Acts of Trafficking in Persons, specifies that: "It shall be unlawful for any person, natural or juridical, to commit any of the following acts:"

    With paragraph (e) the one that could be relevant for customers:

    ' (e) To maintain or hire a person to engage in prostitution or pornography;"

    On its surface, the Philippine law does indeed give police and prosecutors the legal basis for pursuing customers of prostitutes. It doesn't matter whether it's an EWR or a girl you meet through Date In Asia. As long as money changes hands for sexual services, it's against Philippine law.

    The amended law further states:

    'SEC. 10. Penalties and Sanctions.

    ' (a) Any person found guilty of committing any of the acts enumerated in Section 4 shall suffer the penalty of imprisonment of twenty (20) years and a fine of not less than One million pesos (P1, 000, 000. 00) but not more than Two million pesos (P2, 000, 000. 00);"

    But again, a law on paper never put anyone in jail. It will depend on the will of the police to enforce it as well as the interpretation which prevails in the courts. A friend who's just been in AC told me they had cracked down sharply on the euphemistically named free-lance scene, but that's only a positive thing and long overdue.

    And it's pretty scary how badly things can end up for foreigners convicted under the trafficking law. Check out this story:

    Swedes sentenced to life in prison for Filipino cyber-brothel (http://scandasia.com/swedes-convicte...cyber-brothel/)

    Evil

  2. #88

    More on the AC Raids

    I was at the Cherry Bar in Pattaya last night and one of the other customers there had been in an AC bar when it was raided. He told the Cherry Bar's owner the customers hadn't been allowed to leave the bar for a long time. Not a pleasant way to spend your holiday time, especially since the customers didn't know whether they would be hauled away to a police station in Manila.

    And there's a rather pessimistic undertone in a recent piece by Harry the Horse, a well-known AC blogger. He describes how the owners / licensees of 40 big AC bars were summoned to a meeting at the Mayor's office where an official impressed upon them the Mayor's determination to clamp down on prostitution.

    Harry notes that there's been some opposition to the Mayor's plans from landlords / land owners of the Fields Avenue bars. That's a crucial factor. Unless there are concrete plans for "something else" (a casino?) to replace the bars, the landlords / land owners would suffer huge losses. All the businesses that supply and service the bars as well as hotels, restaurants, etc would also go down the drain. Depending on their combined political clout, the primary and secondary business owners might be able to stymie the Mayor's anti-bar crusade.

    But there's no doubt that if the authorities want to shut down the scene in AC, they can do it overnight. The day they start hauling away customers is the day the music dies. Raids on bars and arrests of bar owners / managers have been a fact of life for years in AC. It seems things have heated up considerably in recent months, but so far, the customer has largely been left in peace. Should there be mass arrests of customers, even if those customers are released after a few hours, then the scene will dry up and wither away in a very short time. That would be the signal that policy has indeed changed and the raids are no longer motivated by demands for more tea money.

    Of course, if the PI authorities wanted to frighten away mongers once and for all, they could simply bust a couple of them and then sentence them to long stretches in prison. That's not very likely, but it is certainly possible under the new anti-trafficking laws.

    It's a bit of Pascal's wager when it comes to AC. What's the best thing that can happen if you choose AC over Pattaya? You save a few bucks when paying a girl for sex. What's the worst? You could end up doing a 20-year stint in prison for paying a girl for sex.

  3. #87
    Has the closure something to do with their names? Seems that city hall doesn't like devilish names.

    Of course these are not koreaned owned.

    Anyway, with the new regime it seems to me that the main problem will be for the bars to get any profit, and also to give the potentially customers any reason to go there. So not only the 40-limit will be a problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by MathewCob  [View Original Post]
    Three more bars on Fields Avenue Angeles City ordered to be closed down last night.

    Angel Witch Bar, Voodoo Bar, Devil Witch bar.

  4. #86

    International Syndicate Behind Raids

    There have been a lot of rumors here lately about all the raids, and I am here to unveil the evil doers behind this plot. I have unearthed abundant evidence of an international syndicate, based in Italy, working constantly, in the Philippines (and many other countries) to control women in sexual slavery. They lure girls in at a very young age, even suborning their very parents into the recruitment, with glib false promises of rewards that the girls never see, while alive. Their scheme is breathtaking in its audacity and its reach, and even in its success to date.

    I'm sure readers can guess the perpetrators of this plot. The Mafia? The Koreans? Hong Kong Triads? The Yakuza? Nope! I'm talking about the Catholic church. They are seeking to monopolize the supply of pussy. In their scheme, they lure vulnerable young women with false, or at least unproven, promises of a better life. In the next world. Once they take over a city or a country, they effectively control all the pussy. Pussy then becomes only available by marrying one of their women. In one of their churches. Where you are required to swear out an oath to sell your very children into the ponzi scheme. By controlling the women, they control the pussy. By controlling the pussy, they control the men. By controlling the men and women they control the children.

    You may laugh, but already they have made inroads into AC, and into this very forum. Be warned, and be vigilant.

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    Freelance bar

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliPro  [View Original Post]
    I'll be staying 2 weeks in Manila and want to head out to AC for one night just to check it out.

    I don't do barfines or anything. Manly just pick up girls in regular clubs or try and shore some girls from FL spots.

    Anyways, what is the disco / club scene like in AC? I assume there to be only like 1 or 2 in AC as most places are girly bars.

    A nice club where regular girls go along with all the bar girls once they got off work would be great. Is there any such place?

    A military guy I met that goes to AC told me about one place but I forgot the name.
    Sky Trax bar is the only freelancer bar, its on perimeter road, near to the main gate jeepney stop, gets going well after midnight, busy by 1-3 am.

  6. #84

    Troll Alert

    Dear Father Cob,

    I'm sorry to disappoint you, but. People are still having sex.

    I'm here in AC. Business as usual here mate. I bar fined a young hottie just hours ago. And f-cked the red out of her hair. Try a woman for a change, instead of an altar boy.

    People, this Father Matthew Cob is a troll. Filter him off, and move on.

  7. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Western787  [View Original Post]
    My comment was is response to what Python stated. However as for the larger issue, the worldwide war against "[CodeWord908]" at this point is in the nature of a witch hunt, and typical of such hysterias, the proponents can just make things up as they go along. Who's going to stop them from doing this? The press? The press in fact continues to all but ignore the biggest issue related to sexual "[CodeWord908]" which is western gay men traveling to Asian countries to find and molest young boys, a true disgusting "scourge" if there ever was one. Instead the campaign is now about expanding the definition of [CodeWord908] to among other things (18 or over adult) bar girls who now by definition purportedly HAVE to be "victims" of trafficking regardless of whether they think they are or not and regardless of consent. Its total BS of course, but it allows the NGOs to keep getting funding and politicians like Hillary Clinton to work this issue, and now huge amounts of dollars are now being provided by people such as Australian billionaire Gina Rinehart and many other wealthy elites. The NGO's and State can't get away with this BS in Thailand, but apparently they see the Philippines now as a ripe target.
    A bit off topic, but the "trafficking" issue is a side effect; the main cause is poverty and in many areas, extreme poverty. If the politicians / public officials would worry less about lining their pockets and more about their constituents then perhaps something can be truly done to reduce the trafficking of their citizens.

    http://globalnation.inquirer.net/588...untries-survey

    IMHO several NGO's are probably responsible (at least in part) for the current situation in AC. It's also probably safe to speculate that they are the recipient of illicit funds given to them to cover some politician's tracks; or least moneys that were granted to make themselves look good.

    http://www.philstar.com/headlines/20...y-bigger-p10-b

    And that 10 billion is just a small drop in large lake. Plenty of other forms of graft and corruption; a UN report (albeit from 1998; pg 504) estimated it at 1.4 trillion nationwide (I'm sure the number has come down some since then, but even if it's half it's still "serious money"); and those pesos could've bought a substantial amount of food and gone a long way in improving the educational system.

    http://unpan1.un.org/intradoc/groups/public/documents/apcity/unpan019122.pdf

  8. #82
    You've lost me in the first four words dude. I know WR, and he is the "nurse that bottle of beer" type. I'd bet he's refined enough to know a good whiskey, but you try to undermine his message by suggesting he drinks too much. If you spew defamation in the first four words, do you really think anyone is willing to believe anything else you write? X.

    Quote Originally Posted by MathewCob  [View Original Post]
    Wr,

    Put down the whisky bottle and read what I say sober, as stated before the stickman report was written by me so I do not get your copy and paste rubbish.

    Only two days spent in Angeles out of 20 days in the Philippines and they were two days too many honestly, but hit the bars heavily with my many friends, contacts on both days, I am a 20+ year monger, most of the others were either long time Angeles residents or ex Bangkok resident, some ex bar owners, so between us many years of mongering experiance, most of us speak passable to good Tagalog, Atlantis / dollhouse / club Asia, the-club, Carousel, Voodoo, Pony Tails were all visited for a few drinks by our group,

    What we found was out of the many bars we visited not one single bar offered a barfine option, not through the bar, the mamasun, the bargirls even when spoken to in their own language so they would feel more comfortable in our company, basically zero barfines available for the whole group.

    Lucky I have many ex girlfriends (non bargirls) on my phones memory that live near to Angeles that were willing to keep my bed warm for the nights I was there, so not so bad after all.

    Now that you got my trip report you can make a start on trying to rubbish that too mr shill LOL

  9. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by E Z Rhino  [View Original Post]
    How exactly to you get to, all prostitutes = trafficked? I see they're skipping over something logically there.
    My comment was is response to what Python stated. However as for the larger issue, the worldwide war against "[CodeWord908]" at this point is in the nature of a witch hunt, and typical of such hysterias, the proponents can just make things up as they go along. Who's going to stop them from doing this? The press? The press in fact continues to all but ignore the biggest issue related to sexual "[CodeWord908]" which is western gay men traveling to Asian countries to find and molest young boys, a true disgusting "scourge" if there ever was one. Instead the campaign is now about expanding the definition of [CodeWord908] to among other things (18 or over adult) bar girls who now by definition purportedly HAVE to be "victims" of trafficking regardless of whether they think they are or not and regardless of consent. Its total BS of course, but it allows the NGOs to keep getting funding and politicians like Hillary Clinton to work this issue, and now huge amounts of dollars are now being provided by people such as Australian billionaire Gina Rinehart and many other wealthy elites. The NGO's and State can't get away with this BS in Thailand, but apparently they see the Philippines now as a ripe target.

  10. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by mathewcob  [View Original Post]
    three more bars on fields avenue angeles city ordered to be closed down last night.

    angel witch bar, voodoo bar, devil witch bar.
    Quote Originally Posted by garry smith  [View Original Post]
    same owner. whats the reason of close down bro?
    one of my girls just told me that they were closed for fire code violations; a faulty exit sign in one case. considering the tragic hotel fire in subic earlier this year, it makes me wonder if someone in the city government was cunning enough to use this sardonic approach on a few of the dryden groups' bars. in any event, same result as any raid; bars are closed and time for dave to pay up (again).

    on another note, my girl also said that insomnia was also raided the night before last (can anyone confirm?) , but she left the area with a few of her gf's to go watch a movie and didn't know the reason or the outcome. she also said that several of the girls she knows are considering going to subic to work and others are contemplating taking some time off and going home for a few weeks; at least until things settle down. many of the girls are afraid of being taken into custody; some have had friends who were arrested and had to "perform" for their captors as part of the deal for getting released. one (20 years old; who is very small, thin and exceptionally pretty) claims to have been approached by an officer with regards to setting up an old scam; the knock on the door, you're under arrest for having an "****" girl in your room, but we'll let you go if you donate xx, xxx pesos to our benevolence fund. she was at least smart enough to tell him she'd think about it and get back to him in a few days; after her release she hightailed it back to her province.

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    Reasons for closures

    Quote Originally Posted by Garry Smith  [View Original Post]
    Same owner. Whats the reason of close down bro?
    Yes your correct, all three bars belong to the same group, the official reason was they did not have the correct fire certificates.

    In my view a load of bullshit because the relevent bars would not have been issued their yearly trading licenses without having the correct fire certificates in place.

    At a guess, I would say that the powers that be want to shut this group down permanently and are finding different ways to hassle the owners, if this does not work then they will send the big boys in (human traffic team / Manilla special unit)

    As I have said in the past, the mayor / police / special unit want to rid angeles of barfines / prostitution and possibly in the end close down all the bars of angeles, but thats just my view.

  12. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by MathewCob  [View Original Post]
    Three more bars on fields avenue Angeles city ordered to be closed down last night.

    Angel witch bar, Voodoo bar, Devil witch bar.
    Same owner. Whats the reason of close down bro?

  13. #77

    No more barfines on Fields

    As I walk along Fields and inquire of the greeters on the outside of the bars the cost of a barfine, I am told that there are no more barfines. What in the world? Apparently the police are no longer allowing barfines. I am told however that you can negotiate a price with the girl. Apparently barfines are going underground for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by key master  [View Original Post]
    i stopped reading your website a long time ago with quite a few other people for a reason. what are you doing in the philippines?

    and in regards to harry the horse, the man writing the stuff is a very nice older man. i've actually met him. he's nice, but he also has a little problem with alcohol i thought so it's kind of hard to tell what he really thinks and what's what. i am not saying that things don't look down a little bit in ac, but i do think most of it is because there is a new sheriff in town looking to [CodeWord123] the foreigners for some cash to play. nothing new in a red light district, what do you expect? i think in a way that it's great that he is scaring all these people away in a way and now we got the negative stickman here! holy shit!
    i think your totally confused and need to read the post slowly and carefully before jumping to comment,

    please tell me how you have confused me (mathew) writing a trip report for the stickman site and posting my trip report in the stickmans readers column, with stickman writing the trip report, the piece clearly states written by mathew.

    stickman is stickman and mathew is mathew, two different people, duhhhh.

    now stickman has stated many times that he has never visited the philippines and has no desire to visit.

    thanks.

  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by mathewcob  [View Original Post]
    if you look at the name on the stickman post you are refering to you will see that it is written by mathew, does that tell you something, yes i wrote it, duhhhhh.
    i stopped reading your website a long time ago with quite a few other people for a reason. what are you doing in the philippines?

    and in regards to harry the horse, the man writing the stuff is a very nice older man. i've actually met him. he's nice, but he also has a little problem with alcohol i thought so it's kind of hard to tell what he really thinks and what's what. i am not saying that things don't look down a little bit in ac, but i do think most of it is because there is a new sheriff in town looking to [CodeWord123] the foreigners for some cash to play. nothing new in a red light district, what do you expect? i think in a way that it's great that he is scaring all these people away in a way and now we got the negative stickman here! holy shit!

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