Guatemala City

[Dodger Bulldog]

I challenged the report below because it is inaccurate, quoted false pricing, and contradicted the earlier posts from the same member.

Please don’t be fooled by the false tone of authority. I would hate to see anyone completely misled by someone who portrayed himself as knowledgeable, when by his own admission his visits are “necessarily superficial.”

I am not doing any name calling or flaming, but I do think it is fair to use his own writings to point out exactly how inconsistent, contradictory, and possibly even bizarre his posts are:

Regarding Prolijo's observation that I "breeze through" a place just to say I've been there, I'll plead somewhat guilty. This brings us to just what one's core philosophy of travel may be. To me the essential choice is breadth v. depth, i.e., do I want to visit as many places as possible, even if that visit is necessarily superficial, or do I want to visit fewer places and explore them intimately, get to know them well, etc?

This person mongered in Guatemala City for three days (although he tried to make it sound like eight). He admits he only went to two clubs. The first one was Elite, which anyone who even gives a cursory glance to this board will see that I, and many others, have repeatedly warned is a complete rip-off and incredibly overpriced clip joint.

At the only other place he went to, he admits that he knew he was paying way more than everyone else. I am not entirely clear if he paid 600 Q or 1200 Q, but I never paid more than 400 Q there.

Based on those two visits, he rates Guatemala as way overpriced and more expensive than Rio.

He arrives at this conclusion by doubling the 30 minute price which he had already inflated by 50% over what anyone else pays, then doubling it again, before finally comparing that against the price for a 40 minute session in a terma in Rio!

Isn't there a saying that figures lie and liars figure?

Nonetheless, he raved about the girl he did there and even repeated with her, maybe two more times (it's not clear). Now he tries to miniimize his ownwords:

--My statement about the "best sexual encounter" was made at the beginning of my Latin America journeys. I visited 15 Latin countries after Guatemala and had several sexual encounters that equalled or surpassed the ones in GC. Once again you are taking quotes out of context.

That's what he says this now, even though in his comment below in whih he concluded that Guate's chicas approach the quality of those in Rio was found in his summary after his 30 day "sex tour" was finished.

He refers to Paradiso a high-end club, but no one else ever has. He never visited the real high end clubs: Le Club, Capricho’s, Mediteranneo, or Platino’s, which are acknowledged to have the hottest chicas.

Even so, he sure liked what he saw in Guate. Based on his “necessarily superficial” experience at a medium-rated club he gave this comparison:

Guatemala City has the highest concentration of quality chicas in all of CA, approaching but not equaling the termas in Rio.

Rio is his favorite place in the world, and he uses that to compare all others against. I have taken his own ratings of the Central American countries he visited and arranged them in order. You can find the complete post here: http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...&postcount=214

I'm a veteran Rio de Janeiro monger, and to me Rio is the pussy capital of the world, so Rio would get a 10: easily available sex, beautiful girls who are highly skilled sexually, and reasonable prices (although Rio has gotten more expensive lately).

COSTA RICA: OVERALL RATING: 9

EL SALVADOR: OVERALL RATING: 8.5

GUATEMALA: OVERALL RATING: 8

PANAMA: OVERALL RATING: 7

NICARAGUA: OVERALL RATING: 4

BELIZE: OVERALL RATING: 2.

HONDURAS: OVERALL RATING: 1.5

So there it is. I hope some mongers will find this helpful.

So Rio is a 10, CR a 9, El Salvador an 8.5, and Guatemala an 8. Not bad. Those ratings may be pretty accurate.

But then he starts contradicting himself. In another post, CR is no longer better than El Salvador. He even tries to claim that CR is more expensive than Rio!

There is absolutely no comparison; Rio wins hands down. I have been to Rio 11 times and to CR twice. Rio is the pussy capital of the world, IMHO, with the only serious competitor being Bangkok. In San Jose, by contrast, pussy is available in abundance, but it is of lower quality and, paradoxically, more expensive than Rio pussy, or at least on a par, except in Rio's upper end termas. San Jose isn't even the best mongering spot in Central America; IMHO that honor belongs to San Salvador.

CR rated a 9 in his book to Rio’s 10. Not bad for the shithole that he now claims it to be:

For the record, I have only referred to two places as shitholes, at least in recent posts, San Jose and Nicaragua although in the latter case I really meant Managua. So I have hardly found "so many places" to be shitholes. And let me define "shithole": a place that is ugly and without any redeeming aesthetic value, and is dangerous to boot.

Well, at least he didn’t call Guatemala City a shithole.

Now, the reason I am including his contradictory statements about Costa Rica in this discussion of Guatemala is that I think it is very important for others to see that he has turned 180 degrees against them for some reason. He praised both places very highly at the time he visited them, almost as high as Rio, his “pussy capitol of the world."

Yet now he has the audacity to poor mouth both places, going so far as to call Guatemala "definitely not a place for mongering."

He acted as if he knows what is talking about, without disclosing that he only visited two clubs and did one chica there. The truth is that he has an almost complete lack of any mongering knowledge or experience in Guatemala.

And when you read his reports he admits it.

As I final note, I would like to point out that above he rated Costa Rica as a 9 to Rio’s 10, but then he has this to say:

Comparing CR to Rio is like comparing a Hyundai to a Rolls Royce, a hot dog to Chateaubriand, a Gallo red to Chateau Lafite Rothschild, Maxfield Parrish to Michelangelo, Neil Simon to Shakespeare, Eminem to Pavarotti.....but you get the idea. CR for the amateur, Rio for the connoisseur. Happy mongering, gentlemen.

I certainly hope that no one decides to steer clear of Guatemala or Costa Rica based on the convoluted conclusions of this member's incredibly inconsistent, superficial, inaccurate, and misleading reports.

If you have the opportunity to go for a reasonable cost to monger in Guatemala, don't hesitate.

Just read the reports on this thread and follow the advice of someone who actually lived there so you can avoid the pitfalls and maximize your experiences.

Viva Guatemala!

DB

[Lorenzo]

Moreover, you said that the only chica you did in Guatemala was the "best sexual encounter I have had in
recent memory." Since you were right in the middle of a 30 day sex tour at the time, how more powerful
can a statement be than that?...

You wouldn't be adding the two days in Tikal and three days in Antigua, both non-mongering historical
sites, just to pad the total, would you?...

All of this vast experience qualifies you as an expert on the Guatemala City scene, enough to warn
people away from the place?....

You wish to claim that Guatemala is more expensive than the termas in Rio? Tell me another whopper.

Basic termas such as Monte Carlo in Copa and Solarium in Le Jardin charge R60 entrance, R60 for forty
minutes in the room, and R150 for the garota's time. Not counting drinks and such, 270 reals.

Luomo's in Copa comes out to R240, which is $140.

At the current exchange rate of 1.71, that equals $158 for the first two, or more than double the $78
one pays in the high end Guatemala clubs.

DB

--My statement about the "best sexual encounter" was made at the beginning of my Latin America journeys. I visited 15 Latin countries after Guatemala and had several sexual encounters that equalled or surpassed the ones in GC. Once again you are taking quotes out of context.

--Yes, I am counting all the time I spent in Guatemala. You said I only spent 3 days in the entire country, and I was correcting you. And how do you know I didn't monger in Tikal? Some of those howler monkeys can be quite sexy. (Note to DB: That was a joke. You usually are too slow to pick up on those.)

--I have never claimed to be an expert; I was just reporting my impression.

--One hour at the high end clubs, or at least Club Platinum, costs $156, or at least it did two years ago. At today's exchange rate, this make it more expensive than L'uomo in Rio, even by your own calculations. You were lucky if you paid for a half hour and they let you stay longer. Most tourists wouldn't know this and might not be accorded the same courtesy that you were as a regular.

This is absolutely the last thing I have to say on this subject. For some reason I have yet to fathom, you seem to have a personal ax to grind with me that has all the earmarks of a personal grudge. When Lil Bear posted his question, you could have just posted your opinion, as Traffic777 and I did, and let it drop. But no, you apparently feel compelled to dig through pages and pages of old posts to catch me in inconsistencies regarding things I posted two years ago, and in doing so waste bandwidth space on a needless debate. Why is what I think such an obsession with you? You really, REALLY, need to get a life. And if my posts are as worthless as you seem to think they are, why don't you just put me on your ignore list?

L

[Dodger Bulldog]

First of all, I was in Guatemala eight days, not three

I am in Guatemala City for 3 days on my 30 day sex tour of Central America... This driver recommended Night Club Platinum. He said Venus was too dangerous. I suspected he would be getting a kickback, but I didn't see any money change hands. Platinum was an entirely different kind of place, more downscale, less glitzy, but the chicas were just as attractive as Club Elite. I settled on a 20 year old Honduran spinner named Jessica. She wanted Q600 for a half hour and Q1200 for an hour. She wouldn't budge from this. I know that this is much, much more than mongers have reported paying, but I didn't want to go to yet another place. Besides, she had agreed to all my sexual requests, and I found her attractive. The room was not bad at all, and she was outstanding: DFK, DATY, BBBJ, CFS. Best sexual encounter I have had in recent memory. I think I'll go back tonight.

Lorenzo

Emphasis added, and here is the link: http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...&postcount=207

Followup on my previous report. The next night I went back to Platinum and requested Jessica. She was available and we went back to a different room for an hour. It was the same as the night before, pure sexual ecstasy; DKF, BBBJ (con much gusto on Jessica's part), DATY, CFS. I then went to Tikal for two days and am now in Antigua for 3 days. I am planning to call Jessica tomorrow (Sunday)--she gave me her cell phone number--because the clubs are closed. She said she could come out to Antigua Sunday and return Monday.

Again, emphasis added, and here is the link:http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...&postcount=209

The only negative thing that you wrote in all of your reports about Guatemala concerned the taxi drivers, not the chicas.

Moreover, you said that the only chica you did in Guatemala was the "best sexual encounter I have had in recent memory. " Since you were right in the middle of a 30 day sex tour at the time, how more powerful can a statement be than that?

You might feel differently now when you wish to make some other point. But the reports that you wrote which were contemporaneous to your time in GC were all extremely positive, Lorenzo.

I think they speak volumes. The readers of this thread can decide for themselves which of your reports to believe.

BTW, the report at the time clearly states that you spent only three days in Guatemala City. You may have been back since, but if it is really so bad there, why would you?

You wouldn't be adding the two days in Tikal and three days in Antigua, both non-mongering historical sites, just to pad the total, would you?

The best I can tell is that you were in GC three days, went to two clubs, one of which many of us have repeatedly posted warnings stating that it is a total clip joint and to stay away.

And you had one chica in all of Guatemala. And she was great!

All of this vast experience qualifies you as an expert on the Guatemala City scene, enough to warn people away from the place?

You have never been to Le Club? Or Capricho's? Or Platinos?

How about the Men's Club? Or Venus? Cats maybe? Extasis?

Baron Rojo? Oro Solido? Mediteranneo's?

Tell me what Casablanca's is like, okay? Where can we find 10-54?

Please teach the rest of us everything you know about Guatemala City.

In light of such limited experience, a little humility just may be in order on this one, my friend.

You wish to claim that Guatemala is more expensive than the termas in Rio? Tell me another whopper.

Basic termas such as Monte Carlo in Copa and Solarium in Le Jardin charge R60 entrance, R60 for forty minutes in the room, and R150 for the garota's time. Not counting drinks and such, 270 reals.

Luomo's in Copa comes out to R240, which is $140.

At the current exchange rate of 1. 71, that equals $158 for the first two, or more than double the $78 one pays in the high end Guatemala clubs.

And these are the very same clubs about which you wrote that the quality of the chicas approaches that of the garotas in Rio.

I was in all three of those termas last summer. It seems that I have been to many more places in Rio than you have been to in GC, but I would never pretend to be an expert on your favorite city.

Even though the dollar has fallen in Rio (but not in Guatemala), your statement that Guatemala is more expensive is again very puzzling.

In fact, it is flat out crazy.

Bubba Boy's report further states that Centaurus costs R310, Phoenix R160, and Rio Antigo R170.

Even the giant 4x4 in centro Rio was R200. I visited there also, and one is not likely to find a female to compare in quality to those in the better clubs in Guate. However, since you have not been to any of them, we can't expect that you would know.

In top strip clubs in Rio like Frank's and Barbarella's, the girls get R300. R400. They certainly have some hot girls, but the cost is much more than double that in Guatemala clubs. One might talk a garota there into accepting R200 (still a lot more than in Guate), but it is not very likely.

Honestly, I felt fortunate when I could find even one girl in each of the termas to be of interest to me. There were some nights in Rio I took a pass rather then feel like I ws lowering my standards.

And I have to confess, some nights I did lower my standards. But in fairness, over the course of a year in Guatemala there were also times that I lowered my standards.

That is a matter of opinion, of course, but the fact that these termas cost considerably more is not.

In fact if you find ANY garota in Rio, including the SWs on Ave. Atlantico, who are as cheap as the girls in the high end clubs in Guate, you have found yourself a real bargain.

We are all entitled to our own opinions, although most of us prefer to base them on more than a visit to two clubs and sessioning with only one (great) chica.

But no one is entitled to create his own set of facts. Rio termas cost far more that the clubs in Guatemala City. It's not close.

And furthermore, at the EXTREME low end La Linea in Guate is quite a bit cheaper than Villa Mimosa in Rio, too. Although its true that the $14 hookers in VM tend to be hotter than the $3 ones in Guate. I'll grant you that.

I am not trying to slam Rio at all. In finally going there last summer I realized a long time dream of mine.

It did not prove to be one of my favorite places, but that is mainly because the cost of mongering is so outrageous compared to what I am used to paying in other countries. Plus, I am really not into the gigantic asses the way some guys are.

But I may go back to Rio someday.

Now, Buenos Aires is my favorite place to monger in all the world. But let's not even begin to compare the cost of chicas at Black, Madaho's, or Shampoo in Bs. As. To those found in Guatemala City.

And that is not factoring other mongering costs such as airfare and hotels when traveling deep into South America.

It is a very good thing that you look so kindly upon inconsistency. For anyone who follows your reports it quickly becomes apparent exactly how important it is for you.

But for the rest of us, the facts will speak for themselves.

And I hope that those who can score a cheap flight to Guatemala will have a better grasp of what to expect now that they have read how satisfied both you and I were when we were there.

DB

[Lil Bear]

(Sigh)...here we go again. After a considerable hiatus, DB is once again distorting my comments. How long did it take you to troll for that post from two years ago? You must really have a lot of time on your hands.

First of all, I was in Guatemala eight days, not three. And since you went to the trouble of quoting my nearly two year old post, you might have quoted the whole thing. If you had done that, you would have seen that there isn't such a contradiction (although you did provide a link, so readers can see for themselves). My reference to the high quality chicas referred to the expensive clubs, and I specifically noted that the quality was much poorer in the less expensive clubs.

Since I visited GC in March 2006, I subsequently visited all the remaining countries in Central America and 10 countries in South America (all but Guyana, Suriname, and French Guiana, all of which I plan to visit this year). I have now visited every country in Latin America except the Dominican Republic, and I can say unequivocally that GC is not only among the most expensive, it is THE most expensive place to monger in all of Latin America, especially when you take over all quality into consideration. Not even in Rio or Buenos Aires will you pay as much.

In retrospect, the high rating I gave to Guatemala was probably ill-conceived. Sometimes you need the passage of time, and experience in a few more countries, to gain a more balanced perspective. However, at the time I was comparing it to places like Belize, Honduras, and Nicaragua.

If somebody wants to monger in GC, I couldn't care less. The purpose of this forum is to share helpful information. Let the reader decide for himself. My advice to the original questioner would be, visit Guatemala to see the ruins, then go to El Salvador to monger. And enjoy yourself.

Finally, I'll leave DB a quote from Emerson to ponder: "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."

L

I hear that El Salvador is very dangerous. I want to find out more about Central American countries because they are close to home. I wouldn't mind passing through GC, but I do wanna have some monger fun while I visit. I wanna get all that I can and if GC is more expensive than Brasil, which I just got back from in Jan, I'm not interested. So I guess I will check the others out and then maybe if I'm passing through GC maybe visit and see what it is all about. I know I won't make it my primary destination., because I got a feeling about what Lorenzo was saying and I don't want to get out there and feel like why did I come here. Thanks guys for the info again.

[Lorenzo]

As much as it pains me to disagree with my good friend, Lorenzo, his experience consists of three days in the
country while I lived actually lived there in 2005 and 2006.

(Sigh)...here we go again. After a considerable hiatus, DB is once again distorting my comments. How long did it take you to troll for that post from two years ago? You must really have a lot of time on your hands.

First of all, I was in Guatemala eight days, not three. And since you went to the trouble of quoting my nearly two year old post, you might have quoted the whole thing. If you had done that, you would have seen that there isn't such a contradiction (although you did provide a link, so readers can see for themselves). My reference to the high quality chicas referred to the expensive clubs, and I specifically noted that the quality was much poorer in the less expensive clubs.

Since I visited GC in March 2006, I subsequently visited all the remaining countries in Central America and 10 countries in South America (all but Guyana, Suriname, and French Guiana, all of which I plan to visit this year). I have now visited every country in Latin America except the Dominican Republic, and I can say unequivocally that GC is not only among the most expensive, it is THE most expensive place to monger in all of Latin America, especially when you take over all quality into consideration. Not even in Rio or Buenos Aires will you pay as much.

In retrospect, the high rating I gave to Guatemala was probably ill-conceived. Sometimes you need the passage of time, and experience in a few more countries, to gain a more balanced perspective. However, at the time I was comparing it to places like Belize, Honduras, and Nicaragua.

If somebody wants to monger in GC, I couldn't care less. The purpose of this forum is to share helpful information. Let the reader decide for himself. My advice to the original questioner would be, visit Guatemala to see the ruins, then go to El Salvador to monger. And enjoy yourself.

Finally, I'll leave DB a quote from Emerson to ponder: "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."

L

[Dodger Bulldog]

GC is one of the most expensive cities in Latin America for mongering, and the girls there are probably the least attractive. Definitely not a place to visit for mongering.

Of course there are better places to monger than Guatemala City.

As much as it pains me to disagree with my good friend, Lorenzo, his experience consists of three days in the country while I lived actually lived there in 2005 and 2006.

But don't just listen to me, you can check out Lorenzo's own report. He rated Guatemala as the third best mongering destination in all of Cental America. The 8 that he assigned to it was just slightly behind the 9 he gave to Costa Rica and the 8. 5 he gave to El Salvador.

I find it unpleasant when a guy hangs himself with his own words, but here is Lorenzo's previous report (emphasis added):

GUATEMALA: Guatemala City has the highest concentration of quality chicas in all of CA, approaching but not equaling the termas in Rio. They are also very skilled sexually and I had them do everything I asked. OVERALL RATING: 8

There is such an incredible disconnect between those two reports that I thought I better provide the exact link so that everyone can see for himself that I am NOT making this up: http://www.internationalsexguide. In...&postcount=214

Now, some information for those who are not exhibiting signs of split personalities:

The vast majority (over 2/3) of the chicas working in the clubs come to Guatemala from Nicaragua, El Salvador, and Honduras, with a handful from Panama.

I was at a club one night when a warning went out that immigration was on its way. All but one chica quickly snuck out the back and hid at the business next door. The poor Guatemalteca had to do all the dancing for the next 40 minutes!

So if one does not find the girls here attractive, they just don't like Central American chicas in general.

It is true that the prices are set by the clubs and are non-negotiable. They range from 300 Q ($39) to 600 Q ($78). While this is ostensibly for a half hour session, I never had trouble getting an hour or more for that price. I simply would tip the mamacita who cleans the room 10 Q going in, and ask her for a little extra time. Once I began doing that I never again had a knock on the door to tell me time was up.

They salido for take-out is prohibitive in most clubs, but I was able to score a few TLNs from Venus for 700 Q, once I got to know the management.

If one stays around long enough to assimilate somewhat, and learn to operate within the culture, he can learn to reap the benefits. Or if one reads and follows the reports on these boards from those of us who have already been to the country he can also experience the same level of success.

But if one goes in assuming that he already knows all there is to know and that it will be just like any other country he has visited, then he may walk away sorely disappointed.

I had to smile last week when I read Uticaclub's report about Paradiso (just four posts down).

this girl was awesome. Clearly the best pro experience that I have ever had. I could'nt stop laughing to myself on the walk back to the hotel. Ever had that "what the hell just happend" feeling?

I had the exact same feeling at the exact same place about two years ago, albiet with a different chica. The absolute BEST pro experience I have ever had was there in Guatemala, just like Uticaclub had!

So don't bothering listening to the naysayers whose knowledge of the scene in this city is very limited by their own admission.

Guatemala is what it is, and that is plenty good enough for most of us.

You should have a great time there!

DB

[Lil Bear]

Wow, thank you very much. I will definitely be crossing that place off my list of countries to visit. That is all I needed to know. I was wondering about it, but now even after the two responses I won't be there. I guess it will be Ecuador or Colombia in the future for me, as well as Costa Rica. Thank you again I really appreciate it.

[Lorenzo]

I was wondering about taking a trip to GC.

GC is one of the most expensive cities in Latin America for mongering, and the girls there are probably the least attractive. Definitely not a place to visit for mongering. The country, however, is another story. You could easily spend two weeks there visiting the various Mayan ruins.

[Traffic777]

I was wondering about taking a trip to GC. But I have mixed reviews. Can anyone give me the straight face answer. Should I stay or should I go there? I want to visit but now I have second thoughts. Any info would be greatly appreciated. I have been to Brasil, Dominican Republic, and now we are making plans to go to other places like Costa Rica, etc. But I was thinking about venturing to places like Guatemala because the planes prices are really Cheap.

I want to know is it a place to get more for your buck? Because I will probably be going by myself, because none of my traveling buddies are interested in going. I speak enough Spanish to get by, and by the time I go there My Spanish will be much better. So anything anyone can tell me I will take in, thank you very much.

If it's just for chicas, then definitely no. It's a lousy town with lousy girls and very little else to do. You can get the rare hot ones, if you are willing to spend the $ (in which case you might as well travel somewhere nice)

[Lil Bear]

I was wondering about taking a trip to GC. But I have mixed reviews. Can anyone give me the straight face answer. Should I stay or should I go there? I want to visit but now I have second thoughts. Any info would be greatly appreciated. I have been to Brasil, Dominican Republic, and now we are making plans to go to other places like Costa Rica, etc. But I was thinking about venturing to places like Guatemala because the planes prices are really Cheap.

I want to know is it a place to get more for your buck? Because I will probably be going by myself, because none of my traveling buddies are interested in going. I speak enough Spanish to get by, and by the time I go there My Spanish will be much better. So anything anyone can tell me I will take in, thank you very much.

[Uticaclub]

had the chance to be in g city last week and here's what i managed to pull off. since club paradise was the closest to the hotel area in zona 9, i gave the place my first try. it's an easy walk from the westin, intercon. etc. from westin, take a right out of the main lobby and make your first left. follow that street to ave. reforma. take a right on reforma a few blocks to 12th. cross reforma (use crosswalks and be careful) and continue to a large traffic circle. carefully cross circle and continue straight to first alley on right. the club has a large neon sign. a doorman waits behind a metal security gate and will frisk you upon entering. at that point some guy in a bad suit approaches you and tends to your needs. he will point around and you can check out the girls/make a selection. saturday night most of the girls were busy. katiana came up and started a conversation. she seemed nice enough, so i paid the man for an hour and up to the room we went. for the discerning ***** connoisseur, katiana might stand some criticism. a little on the heavy side. not fat, not a model figure but pleasant. at that point i was just looking for some oral and conversation, so the selection process was a quick. this girl was nice and fun in bed but, for some reason i could'nt manage to finish. this poor girl was trying every possible mode of stimulation to the point of exhaustion. knowing the moment would never come, i told her to stop. she finished up the hour with a nice massage. $100 all in total including a few drinks and a small tip. i slept really good that night. after some typical tourist activities during the week, i made it back to guat on friday. i made an attempt at finding some of the other clubs in zona 9 with no success. even armed with a print-out of addresses from the forum, i struck out. i did however find some un-marked clubs and a few groups of trannies down 12 by 3rd. growing weary and frustrated from walking, i gave up and headed back to paradise. again the bad suit concierge summoned a group for introduction. a girl named jazmine made the best impression, so off to the room for an hour. i can't get into detail for it would be too much writing, but this girl was awesome. clearly the best pro experience that i have ever had. i could'nt stop laughing to myself on the walk back to the hotel. ever had that "what the hell just happend" feeling? another $100 spent.

here are some observations/advice. the safety issue is no big deal. keep your eyes open and act with caution. the traffic patterns are confusing and cars come from all directions at high speeds. please use caution as a pedestrian. i walked around zona 9 at night with no problems. keep moving and don't draw attention to yourself. when you exchange money get enough small bills becaulse getting change can be a problem. never try to carry any dope at the airport. the police have narco k9's and they go through everything! even on domestic flights. nobody outside the gringo hotels speaks english, so brush up on your spanish. all in all guatemala isn't a great monger destination imho. the prices seem set so in terms of cost effectivness, it's not the best deal. note: both girls gave me their phone #'s and asked me to call them outside the club. i didn't pursue so i can't confirm any price. you have to travel at least some distance to the clubs/casas so there is no large buffet style situation like costa rica. a language barrier exists unless you speak some spanish. travelling the country was a great experience. there are surely some non-pro opportunties. the girls up in flores/peten are great looking and super friendly. chances are more than good for a foreigner to hook up with one. remember these are just the musings of a first timer, so please have mercy.

chiao amigos.

editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here for more information.

[Lord Gt]

El Paisano 1 (there are 2 near to each other so this one is the one on a corner): 4ª. Avenida 10-02 de la zona 12 de la ciudad capital.

Saludos,

Lord

[Dodger Bulldog]

So next stop I went to El Paisano were my mood changed. After the routine frisk I got in and I thought again, PUTA MADRE! But this time was in a positive way. The girls where in a scale of 6-9 (one girl was a 10). The drinks where cheap in Guatemlan standards so U foreigners should know the prices: Q20 for a beer (guys), Q40 for a small beer (girls) and Q40 for a liter of Beer (CHEAP, CHEAP, CHEAP! ). The girls where nice and educated and the price for the service: Q60 for each 15minutes (CHEAP). The place was quite nice clean and way more better in every aspect compared to Chapinaz.

They do not keep forcing you to buy drinks, you only buy one liter of beer and you are done for the evening. The girls are great.

So I recomend EL Paisano to all the foreigners and locals here in Guatemala City

Great first report, Lord GT. Welcome to the forum!

Can you tell us the location of El Paisano? It definitely sounds like it is worth checking out.

Muchos gracias.

DB

[Lord Gt]

Hello everyone,

I'm new at this forum. I'm Guatemalan and let me tell you, here you have a lot of very helpful information on places that I have not gone still. So I said what the hell, lets help the "gringo" fellow monglers (as you call it) with a little report.

Earlier today I went to Chapinaz because of the add on the internet (as a matter of fact I found this forum by googling that place) and looked very cheap and promissing. As I got there (you should know that this place is in a dangerous part of zona 9 where theres a lot of crime) they frisked me as they usually do here in Guatemala in all the streep joints and bars and so I got in. PUTA MADRE! Was my first thought. And not because the girls where hotties but on the contrary, they where all little whales in a very dirty place. Place was crowded and there was no girl available so a guy working there told me to sit down have a drink and wait. This really got me down and just left. From the scales you guys use I would say, through my eyes, 3-5 (there where only 2 eights but they were with some one else. So next stop I went to El Paisano were my mood changed. After the rutine frisk I got in and I thought again, PUTA MADRE! But this time was in a positve way. The girls where in a sacale of 6-9 (one girl was a 10). The drinks where cheap in Guatemlan standrds so U freigners should know the prices: Q20 for a beer (guys), Q40 for a small beer (girls) and Q40 for a liter of Beer (CHEAP, CHEAP, CHEAP! ). The girls where nice and educated and the price for the service: Q60 for each 15minutes (CHEAP). The place was quite nice clean and way more better in every aspect compared to Chapinaz.

They do not keep frcing you to buy drinks, you only buy one liter of beer and you are done for the evening. The girls are great.

So I recomend EL Paisano to all the foreigners and locals here in Guatemala City and really discourage on going to Chapinaz, where the girls are way, WAY bellow the scale compared to El Paso where everything is worth the money.

Saludos

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[FreshWind]

Thought I might chime in a little on current GC reports though ReallyaNiceGuy is doing a great job. First RNG is excellent wingman.- a little more adventuresome walking around at night than I might be alone but it has worked out fine. First stop Caprichos which had a few 9s-10 and later, when I am not under the weather it would be a good spot to make a quick choice. The most uncomfortable moment for me was in the cab after leaving our first stop at Caprichos. This taxi driver was 3 shades to the wind he had a wild look in his eyes, couldn't carry on a coherent conversation and no telling where he was heading. We jumped out of the cab midstream near Chicas Con Pene corner and I was ready to head to more familiar surroundings. Fortunately RNG kept his cool and navigated us deftly to Platinum. The Guatemaltecas were literally sleeping but the one the woke up to entertain me was affectionate and I enjoyed the very reasonably priced visit.

Armed with a myriad of warnings about overpricing we headed back to Z10 and Elite. Now Elite reminds me more of the high priced places in Lima (e. G. Club 69, Eclipse) than the ripoff joints in SJO CR (Elites and Atlantas, Tango Indias). Prices were costly $8 guy drinks $17 chica drinks but clearly explained and honestly administered with no attempt to force a tab on us. Chicas were hot with about 7 Nicas, 7 Salvadorians, 1 Venezuelan, 7 Guatemaltecas and 2 Colubianas. There was one tiny flaca Guatemalteca with a slight China flavor who was a totally off-scale dancing energy bunny. Unfortunately a couple of locals had her and a similar Guatemalteca flaca occupied the entire night.- I imagine that those guys had a handsome tab.

In looking at Elite business plan essentially about 12 waiters and 25 chicas supported by a 8 hombres, including RNG and me, I was reminded of a conversation with some expats local at Charlies as these guys were busting a gut describing the primary Guatemala business plan as "if I am not making enough money then I must charge more. " Apparently they haven't heard about Walmart's success. While ELites is certainly more upscale than Walmart, (owwww I just had visions of Walmart gringas), it is too bad that they don't have some more moderate priced options at places like Elite.- say 3 dances in a private booth for 150Q. They might pack them in, keep the chicas busy and they would likely drum up more VIP business. In any case I would clearly return to Elite for a couple of carefully selected chica drinks.

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