Ukraine Politics

[Muddy7]

A star is born as Japanese men can't resist sex appeal of Crimean prosecutor

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukra...or-340693.html

There was a comment in the article, someone said "She can annex me any day" maybe by CanadianBoy

Yeah. Just remember that Russia will do the annexation, and a certain peninsula will be violated, and Russian troops will be lined up to take over the rest of you via the back door son.

[Member #4274]

I feel, as someone who has lived in Kyiv, Ukraine, since one month before the announcement by former President Yanokovych, that the majority of people posting about the situation here in Ukraine are either victims of the media of their countries or just plain ignorant. First of all, Kyiv is very calm right now. I have gone to Maidan weekly for 5 months, save the week from Feb. 18 to 25, and I have never once encountered a problem. Secondly, don't believe all this right-wing, Nazi bullshit you read. Is there some in Ukraine? Of course there is, its Eastern Europe, after all. However, Saint Petersburg, Russia, has one of the highest if not the highest concentration of neo-Nazi's in the world, but you don't see Putin doing anything about it. Why? Because its not about right-wing fanaticism, its about territory. Putin doesn't give a damn about Ukraine, he wants to control Ukraine. Period. Lastly, Crimea will be a headache for Russia. Crimea is far, far from being self-sufficient. It will cost a country that can barley take care of its struggling economy and its many failing cities 5 billion per year. Much like South Ossetia, the people of Crimea will celebrate now but in 3-5 years time they will rue the day they joined Russia.

More importantly, what does this mean for mongering? Well, Putin's near incompetence will set the Russian economy back for years while Ukraine suffers through an economic depression that it is already started to feel. So, the mongering will be good. However, don't believe this anti-Ukrainian nonsense being put forth by posters who know nothing about this country or its people. I come into contact with dozens of Ukrainians every week and they are terrific people.

[Muddy7]

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukra...ne-340231.html

Mashable: US film crew recounts harrowing escape from pro-Russian mob in Ukraine

[Speed of Light]

So if the Crimean citizens of the already autonomous republic of Crimea want to vote to decide their own future, why the fuck should they give a shit what anyone else, that isn't Crimean, thinks about it?

The people of Crimea are not deciding anything. The referendum is a circus act directed by Kremlin.

Also, as long as Crimea is legally part of Ukraine, it cannot "chance countries" without permission from Kiev."Autonomous region" doesn't mean "independent country". Autonomous region means that it has broad rights to decide about it's own internal politics. (Not external.)

Crimea can leave Ukraine if Ukrainian government approves it by changing the constitution. After that it's perfectly fine for Crimeans to have a democratic or non-democratic referendum.

Texas can't leave USA either without the permission from the federal government. (Well, of course it CAN leave by force, but that's a different story then.)

[Suka Shalava]

If Texans decided to hold a vote, to secede from the US and annex their territory to Mexico, why would anyone in Texas give a shit what the people of Crimea think about that? If Texans want to have a vote over their future, they have that right. It's called democracy, the right to vote your own government. Would there be another civil war? Maybe, maybe not.

But as far as what anyone else in the world thinks, it would be like Texans saying, oh, well, we should listen and care about what Crimeans think about what we're doing! Why the fuck would Texans give a shit about what Crimeans or anybody else thinks?

So if the Crimean citizens of the already autonomous republic of Crimea want to vote to decide their own future, why the fuck should they give a shit what anyone else, that isn't Crimean, thinks about it?

Why the hell should Crimeans care what John Kerry says. He ain't crimean. He doesn't live there. Its not his land. Why shouldn't Crimeans have a right to choose what they want?

Of course there's plenty of intimidation, pushing and shoving, bullying, threats, deeply intrinsic corruption, and fear. Is that anything new, for the political style practiced in that part of the world? Of course not. That's their history. History doesn't change. History repeats itself.

The similarities between the world today and 2000 years ago when Romans considered themselves the legitimatized rulers of foreign lands, based solely on their ability to use their overwhelmingly superior military power to conquer and control other parts of the world, and the concentration of wealth they greedily amassed through slavery and one-sided unfair business dealing made at the end of a sword, is the most obvious illustration that history repeats itself. Humans rarely learn from their mistakes. The thirst for power and greed found in the pleasure centers of the human brain are no different than addicts that get hooked on narcotics. The meth and heroin addicts always want more more and more drugs to keep going, because the brain builds up a tolerance.

The fall will come, it's inevitable. Power corrupts, and there's no shortage of greed. Just another repeat of Rome. How could George Carlin have been wrong when he said,"We've fucked it all up so badly, we don't really even deserve a chance to fix it. Blow it all up, then the cockroaches will be the only ones that will survive. Might as well give them a chance, they'll probably do a better job than we did.

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[Prosal]

Better avoid Kharkov those days.

Two pro-Russian protesters have been shot dead yesterday night, probably by Right Sector. Seems that the events leading to the deaths began when a group of nationalists opened fire from inside a car at a pro-Russian protest held on Kharkov's central Square.

As a reminder, the Right Sector nazi thugs have stolen some 1200 weapons during their seizure of police stations in Lviv.

The irony is that the leader of the Right Sector (Dmitry Yarosh) is now deputy head of the National Security Council, ie the police.

[Muddy7]

Nice article if you plan to travel to Kiev and stay around maidan:

Ukraine society's rejects replace activists in square.

http://seattletimes.com/html/nationw...squarexml.html

[AColonizer]

1. Just to remind everyone, there was an international agreement among Ukraine, UE and CSI in 1994, that sets Ukraine (the third nuclear-weapon country in 1994) to eliminate its nuclear weapon in exchange for an international agreement of not-military aggression by the EU and the CIS. That was one of the worst deal in the human history! If Ukrainian government was not so idiot and corrupt (in 1994 as much as today) , then it could sell its nuclear weapon as much as Saudi Arabia sells its oil, and now Ukraine could be wealthy as much as Saudi Arabia.

2. Just to remind everyone, Crimea is already an autonomous Republic, and its population is mixed Russian, Tatar and Ukrainian. Most of the nationalist claim is caused by Russian soldiers and by the Russian soldiers' relatives in Crimea.

3. Living in CSI is a shit, and that never could be better (in next 20 years). Russian people know that very well. Crimea could go to CSI and its economical situation doesn't change in better, anyway.

4. All this sad history just because one or few people want more power with no respect of starving population. And the Western world does the same.

Arent western troops illegally and criminally in Iraq (for oil) and some other countries? How does this work, only some countries can invade and occupy?

BTW- wasn't Crimea a gift to UA? I heard its been part of UA for a short time

[Prosal]

1. Ukraine join EU

The EU doesn't want Ukraine. The talk has always been about an EU association, not membership. And if one day Ukraine joins the EU, we will be too old to care.

[Prosal]

You are absolutely correct, Jojo, the future of mongering in Ukraine does depend on the political outcome of the country. However, us hammering away at each other with our personal political opinions will change nothing about the fate of any country.

It does IMO.

Keep in mind that Ukraine will soon have to live under IMF rules. The unlected new goverment has prepared an economic austerity plan that will cut social services, funds for education, layoff government workers, devalue the currency (ok, admittedly a good thing for us) thus raising the prices of imports which include Russian gas, freeze wages, cut pensions of 50% ($160 to $80) , ect, so that Western bankers who lent money to Ukraine can be repaid at the expense of Ukraine's poor.

http://www.kommersant.ua/doc/2424454

It is Greece all over again.

[Travel69]

You are absolutely correct, Jojo, the future of mongering in Ukraine does depend on the political outcome of the country. However, us hammering away at each other with our personal political opinions will change nothing about the fate of any country.

1. Ukraine join EU or simplified visa for Ukraine, mongering in Ukraine will finish.

2. East Ukraine Independent, mongering will move there.

3. East Ukraine joint Russia, mongering will finish there

[Member #4274]

After watching this video I think next time I travel to UA I will carry a pepper spray.

Mc Donalds Donetsk, Ukraine. In this video around 30 people that came out to support the Unity of Ukraine and to oppose any separation of regions, get surrounded by an outnumbering majority of pro-Russian supporters are constantly chanting "Russia, Russia" Berkut Berkut.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNqcwSwnybU&app=desktop

I understand your desire to arm yourself and I have considered the idea myself. However, these events are happening along the border of Ukraine and Russia or in cities which have a strong Russian influence, like Donetsk. In Kyiv, where I live, for example, such events are not taking place for a variety of reasons. Also keep in mind that trouble does not find you in Ukraine, you have to search for it. Keep your nose away from political events and you can enjoy your stay in one of the hotbeds of world events in the early 21st-Century. So far, anyway.

[Muddy7]

After watching this video I think next time I travel to UA I will carry a pepper spray.

Mc Donalds Donetsk, Ukraine. In this video around 30 people that came out to support the Unity of Ukraine and to oppose any separation of regions, get surrounded by an outnumbering majority of pro-Russian supporters are constantly chanting "Russia, Russia" Berkut Berkut.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNqcwSwnybU&app=desktop

It seems mongers have lost Crimea and the eastern regions already unless you want to get your ass kicked

[Member #4274]

Agreed, but the Political situation and the outcome of this crisis will affect present & future mongering in Ukraine.

Look at what happened in other EE countries.

For a start you can forget about Sponsoring& meeting girls spending few hours or all night for 1000UAH as posted below, if Ukraine joins the EU.

You are absolutely correct, Jojo, the future of mongering in Ukraine does depend on the political outcome of the country. However, us hammering away at each other with our personal political opinions will change nothing about the fate of any country.

[Manny51]

From what I read Nikolaev is the city for finding brides in the Ukraine.

This video is a recent one Nov 2013.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF4t5wGTAIA

What have you been waiting for P4P, or a Uktrainian Bride?

Plenty of time for either scenario.

I have had a trip to the Ukraine / Romania on the backburner for a while (no bride seeking) , and am just bummed that it isn't stable anymore.

As for the other running conversation, Putin will probably get the Ukranian financial aid get paid back in pussy. Can you imagine that?"Well, ok, I'll let the interest for next month slide. But I'll be visiting Kiev in a few days."