FKK Oceans Düsseldorf

[Mr Ho]

Mr Ho,

You made the trip? How was Palace in comparison to your last visit? Are there any other clubs on you schedule? Wish I was there. Would be interesting to meet with such an interesting person and fellow ISG member..

No, not this year yet. And I do not have one schedule to Germany, but I will at least make one trip to Germany this year and every year it is set for min 1 trip max 3 trips, hopefully 3 trips, but that always depend on my schedule and mood also. Would have been cool to meet some mongers, and I met one before and he was really nice cool guy and also I actually speak to fellow mongers in FKK when I am spoken to, but usually I monger on my own. Meeting you could have been cool before the arguments, but for sake of my safety and also yours too, it maybe wise to keep it within forum. I am friendly and nice, but when I am attacked, I do it 10 times back so forum is safer for both of us.

I have fixed broad tastes, I like model type, next door girls and some exotic mix like half white and half Arab kind of beauty too, but all has to be somehow out of fashion magazine or at least out of good porn movies, so it is hard to find girl I want to session in clubs recently, which demotivate me to fly over, but I at least find one girl I want to session with in each club so far.

Mr Piston seems to have similar direction to my taste? But yeah, tastes are each their own, this I got to understand mongering in FKK. I do like typical beautiful type though.

[Chongmal]

I see you hanging in palace lately

Mr Ho,

You made the trip? How was Palace in comparison to your last visit? Are there any other clubs on you schedule? Wish I was there. Would be interesting to meet with such an interesting person and fellow ISG member.

I have a much broader taste so I find real women for me more frequently.

[Sirioja]

So beside Globe, where is your destination for your women type girls now? I see you hanging in palace lately, but Kylie and Jenni is not good enough for you, then where is your favorite destination for casting? I mean GT is down, Lr is down, YY is finished for awhile. Where to go or are we all fucked after the law? LOL.

I didn't find a beauty to worth the rate at Aphrodisia when I took risk to return to Switzerland, but Ukrainian Anastasia was a real natural and elegant beauty for me at Palace for 100 . Yes YY closed is a big loss, because could sometimes find high level real beauties there. For my tastes, Oase is not interesting for casting, Sharks and GT on 2019 are down for casting, I don't waste anymore my time at Sharks and I left many times GT after watching ski with full balls, but since I returned I had 5 new girls for me at LR, 1 is so lovely after our discovery, 1 was really skillful for a very enjoyable natural BJ and 3 were quite woman in bed, so I just need to find a wow beauty to dream with her. Funny how their friends smile after these new discoveries. At Samya, can sometimes find beauties, but have to work to make them improve from Turkish standards, but it works when you take care of them. For sure, for looks and quality, big gap now with Globe far higher level. Now, I have my Gruyere holes, so I will return to recover from skiing.

Average level is falling in Germany, but when we find a beauty, have to behave to make her will to be good for us.

[Mr Ho]

My last visits at Sharks were on Friday until 9 pm and Wednesday until 7. 30 pm, usually best casting days, but no desirable girl for me, when I find few elsewhere. On 2015/2016, I visited Sharks every week end, now once every 3 months, waste of time for me, no new pretty girls seen.

So beside Globe, where is your destination for your women type girls now? I see you hanging in palace lately, but Kylie and Jenni is not good enough for you, then where is your favorite destination for casting? I mean GT is down, Lr is down, YY is finished for awhile. Where to go or are we all fucked after the law? LOL.

[Sirioja]

Sharks casting was on a Saturday. So above normal Sharks casting too. YY mid week was not close this time around for me.

My last visits at Sharks were on Friday until 9 pm and Wednesday until 7. 30 pm, usually best casting days, but no desirable girl for me, when I find few elsewhere. On 2015/2016, I visited Sharks every week end, now once every 3 months, waste of time for me, no new pretty girls seen.

[Pistons]

If Oceans is on Sharks level for casting, YY was often higher level for my woman types tastes but I never visit on week days, then not much motivating to give a try to go to negotiate with Oceans desk. Beauties are rare at the moment, few can be seen.

Sharks casting was on a Saturday. So above normal Sharks casting too. YY mid week was not close this time around for me.

[Sirioja]

I was at Oceans recently and found the lineup to be good. About the same level as sharks this time although sharks had more girls total. Top 5-10 are similar in looks. Which was above YY (although I was there on a Wednesday and might have missed some), and slightly below Oase in optics considering there were more girls at Oase perhaps due to messe. Oase had everyone there, and it was weekend too. Although Oase girls are more greedy than anywhere else nowadays in general.

If Oceans is on Sharks level for casting, YY was often higher level for my woman types tastes but I never visit on week days, then not much motivating to give a try to go to negotiate with Oceans desk. Beauties are rare at the moment, few can be seen.

[Pistons]

Reminds me also, both Andra and Maja really has gotten even more passionate and nice, while Alina reminds me more and more of Sophia Carson in looks while dancing on stage (Youtube: Back to Beautiful, but with just lingerie. Interestingly, the songs text is perhaps a bit of an eye opener to girls in clubs too). I don't know if its because girls there remember me or not, but if so, then more visits definitely seems to pay off. I suppose all clubs can have some of that to an extent. As well as a positive initial attitude when entering. The way the girls sit by the bar is the one tricky thing here sometimes if the night is about to start or end. 10 girls might want your attention and you looking at them at the same time if you walk by. So you cannot smile at all of them. I still don't know how to do it properly without anyone feeling overlooked.

[Pistons]

I was at Oceans recently and found the lineup to be good. About the same level as sharks this time although sharks had more girls total. Top 5-10 are similar in looks. Which was above YY (although I was there on a Wednesday and might have missed some), and slightly below Oase in optics considering there were more girls at Oase perhaps due to messe. Oase had everyone there, and it was weekend too. Although Oase girls are more greedy than anywhere else nowadays in general.

Half the lineup is also new from a year ago, although the top girls seems to be there even if I heard Eleny, and two of the Bulgarians were on vacation last week. Pretty Mia from Bulgaria was a new highlight I doubt anyone here would be disappointed with too. And Lucy from Romania (a new Lucy) is looking better and better even though I saw her last summer.

Girls seen: Andra, Alina, Malina, Mia, Lucy, Maja, other brunette petite Bulgarian, Raphaela, and some 3-4 other other beauties I forgot the names of now. Plus plus. Maybe saw around 70 girls in total (3 days, but no Fri. / sat).

Non alcoholic drinks are free now too. There are two refrigerators that I spotted with glass bottles of water and different types of soda such as coke, fanta etc.

[Pistons]

Of course a bad experience can happen everywhere, but in general I've never been treated badly in World, GT or Sharks. For the last couple of years, World has had a very mediocre line up and in GT the limited availability of real beauties (they are mostly pre-booked via social media and I'm) and long waiting times for rooms has me avoiding those places for the time being.

I think the main problem is that clubs are not legally allowed to pose stringent rules on the girls. As we all may recall from the media stories, that is what Artemis tried to do. And that is what the police did not like, as that effectively put Artemis on the edge of the pimp category. So the idea is that girls are their own boss. Problem with this is as you say, lack of integrity several places.

But I don't think this is a black and white pan club incident. There are some great girls to be found at Oceans and Oase who doesn't upsell. And there are some who does unfortunately.

Sharks used to be a safe haven from girls taking the upselling too far, but in my experience that changed fall 2017. And now a great deal of the lookers also upsell at sharks. Thankfully sharks have so many girls on a busy night that you can avoid it. But it is only marginally less than at Oase if you want to make that comparison.

Goldentime which you also mention is so bad when it comes to lineup that I don't know what to say. But among the most interesting girls I have found on my 2 last visits there (I have only been there 5 days total I think), 2 out of 3 upsold and said they only did 60 min rooms. So I don't return there now. That is a 60% for me. Leaving it below any other German FKK. But I guess we all have different preferences.

[Kuni042]

Yes, agree: I too had marvelous experiences in Sharks. And consistently so!! You are 100% right: Clubs like Oceans, Magnum, many of the AO clubs in NRW. Are inconsistent and indeed GT is often crowded. I hate waiting for rooms. LR is way too small. YY too "oriental".

Only problem with Sharks. It is 230 km away from my natural hunting grounds. Funnily, next time I will think hard before I drive 50 min to Oceans or to Sharks 2 hrs. (ok two-way it is double) .

Of course a bad experience can happen everywhere, but in general I've never been treated badly in World, GT or Sharks. For the last couple of years, World has had a very mediocre line up and in GT the limited availability of real beauties (they are mostly pre-booked via social media and I'm) and long waiting times for rooms has me avoiding those places for the time being.

[Horny Harry]

I did have some awesome evenings there in 2016 and 2017. But times are changing. And even more changing. IF you say "rip-off-upsell places like. ", please let us know, what you consider good places?

Of course a bad experience can happen everywhere, but in general I've never been treated badly in World, GT or Sharks. For the last couple of years, World has had a very mediocre line up and in GT the limited availability of real beauties (they are mostly pre-booked via social media and I'm) and long waiting times for rooms has me avoiding those places for the time being.

Basically I just stick to Sharks, although of course I also had some mediocre sexual experiences there throughout the years, but never ever reaching the point of getting into an argument about payment or having to to the reception for mediation. Of course arguments about money and men taking girls to the reception happens also at Sharks, but you rarely read about it here, and personally I've never witnessed it. Not has the Sharks reception ever tried to short-change me when paying my E65.

I think the big key word here is: consistency. Consistency from both the FKK establishment in providing a nice location, and also consistency from the girls offering a certain service. Short-changing customers, paying extra for arriving by taxi, paying extra for food, paying extra for drinks, charging extra for a bathrobe, and girls constantly up-selling doesn't really provide consistency for me.

Although I've never been there, from what I've been reading here I guess Artemis, Palace or Mainhattan fall into the same category.

Call me a coward for not trying something new (I do try out new girls, but I tend to stay at the same FKK club), but at the same time I simply reason: "if it ain't broken, don't try and fix it. " I'm happy going to Sharks once or twice a month and when I read all these stories about people getting ripped off at other places I can only shake my head in disbelief.

At Sharks for me most girls fall into the category of what I consider "sexy," usually waiting times are low, the sauna-wellness is great, food is okay, I've never been treated badly by either the girls or the Sharks staff, and there are plenty of new girls so it never becomes boring. Sharks really go downhill in the future, then I'll start trying out new establishments, after of course first reading up on them here first.

[Takedown]

Do some (not you Kuni, I'm talking about the general male visitors here) people think they are god's gift to women and really expect all the girls to suddenly get naturally wet pussies and fuck them like a bride on her wedding night and be totally honest and generous about the money?.

3 phrases, 3 words each.

Six-Pack Abs.

Six Figure Salary.

Not dad's age.

[Kuni042]

I did have some awesome evenings there in 2016 and 2017. But times are changing. And even more changing. IF you say "rip-off-upsell places like. ", please let us know, what you consider good places?

Thanks for your report and good that people go to these rip-off-up-sell places like Oceans and Oase and are brave enough to write reports here, but I honestly wonder: did you really expect anything different?

Why do lots of people still go to these places? Do some (not you Kuni, I'm talking about the general male visitors here) people think they are god's gift to women and really expect all the girls to suddenly get naturally wet pussies and fuck them like a bride on her wedding night and be totally honest and generous about the money?

IMHO it's a vicious circle: unfortunately the 'managements' of establishments like this already think in a typical "penny wise-pound foolish" way, so I guess the girls working there quickly get the message and also start to act accordingly. This in turn seems to attract a certain type of naive and tourist male audience, typical suckers, desperate about buying an illusion, and who 'think they are special' and that the common rip off mentality of these places does not apply to them.

[Horny Harry]

So seemingly that is the latest trick in Oceans to rake in more money. I only had this kind of rip-off once before and thanks to this forum, I was instructed to behave rude and saved good money. So thank you, folks (see the Oase thread, somewhere, where I talk about that experience).

Thanks for your report and good that people go to these rip-off-up-sell places like Oceans and Oase and are brave enough to write reports here, but I honestly wonder: did you really expect anything different?

Why do lots of people still go to these places? Do some (not you Kuni, I'm talking about the general male visitors here) people think they are god's gift to women and really expect all the girls to suddenly get naturally wet pussies and fuck them like a bride on her wedding night and be totally honest and generous about the money?

IMHO it's a vicious circle: unfortunately the 'managements' of establishments like this already think in a typical "penny wise-pound foolish" way, so I guess the girls working there quickly get the message and also start to act accordingly. This in turn seems to attract a certain type of naive and tourist male audience, typical suckers, desperate about buying an illusion, and who 'think they are special' and that the common rip off mentality of these places does not apply to them.