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  1. #1769
    Quote Originally Posted by PeacefulRunner  [View Original Post]
    Dear all,

    Will go to visit Dorsseldorf in late night of May 19 or May 20. I'd like to try FKK there.

    Is this Ocean a good recommendation?

    Thank you in advance.
    I'm not sure if I would select this as my first stop but I hate to recommend something at the moment. I guess if you do your research on prices for entry and know what to expect from the ladies, high chance of €80 per 30 minutes, then it could be OK.

  2. #1768
    Quote Originally Posted by PeacefulRunner  [View Original Post]
    Dear all,

    Will go to visit Dorsseldorf in late night of May 19 or May 20. I'd like to try FKK there.

    Is this Ocean a good recommendation?

    Thank you in advance.
    Oceans is the best club, if you want to be fucked at the desk. Nevertheless, if I found a sweet GFE top beauty there, I would manage about the desk.

  3. #1767

    Is this FKK a good recommendation from your expert?

    Dear all,

    Will go to visit Dorsseldorf in late night of May 19 or May 20. I'd like to try FKK there.

    Is this Ocean a good recommendation?

    Thank you in advance.

  4. #1766
    Quote Originally Posted by Takedown  [View Original Post]
    Upsells have been reported by multiple users and must have held some creedence to you since you alluded to your 50/80 versus Aca's 40 to 50 comparison.
    If true, then yes.

  5. #1765
    Ocean is a Turkish club with poor service and very unstable LU, I stopped to visit it, so better places around.

  6. #1764
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    I would hold back on assumptions before having seen it for myself. I do see lots of upsells in every club nowadays. Question is just who is worst. And that may be a matter of debate of vary dependant on the eye of the beholder. Your *** statement holds no ground. The high ceiling at Oceans is only beaten by Sharks, so it should have the second best air among all the FKK's in general. At least in the lounge, which it has in my view also.
    Descriptions were of Aca not Oceans. Aca was described as a retort to your suggestion that paying 80 at Oceans for 50 euro service was equivalent to people paying 50 ero when they can get it for 40 at Aca.

    Upsells have been reported by multiple users and must have held some creedence to you since you alluded to your 50/80 versus Aca's 40 to 50 comparison.

  7. #1763
    Quote Originally Posted by Takedown  [View Original Post]
    Not exactly a comparable retort to 30 euro upsells at Oceans. Terrible food, moldy steam rooms, broken everything, and the smell of ensures that. This coming from an Aca fan.
    I would hold back on assumptions before having seen it for myself. I do see lots of upsells in every club nowadays. Question is just who is worst. And that may be a matter of debate of vary dependant on the eye of the beholder. Your [CodeWord109] statement holds no ground. The high ceiling at Oceans is only beaten by Sharks, so it should have the second best air among all the FKK's in general. At least in the lounge, which it has in my view also.

  8. #1762
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    You can say the same comparing Aca to the 50 e clubs. Some try to be exclusive. With that comes a lot of things that may need to be in place first too. Question is if the market is there for it.
    Not exactly a comparable retort to 30 euro upsells at Oceans. Terrible food, moldy steam rooms, broken everything, and the smell of [CodeWord109] ensures that. This coming from an Aca fan.

  9. #1761
    Quote Originally Posted by BigBuddy69  [View Original Post]
    Easy solution, say no and don't go in this hole anymore. So the same girls now charge 1. 6 times more for the same service, and they were far from the best at LR. They should try PHG, only the morons go there now. A girl I fucked for 40 in Great Palace a few years ago now charges 30 for BBBJ. It means she doubled her rate and her service was really average back in the days even for 40 .

    Those two clubs could go bankrupt, I couldn't care less.
    Not only are the women working the flow up charging, but the women working the door are scam artists too. If you have a good business you don't have to set confusing pricing models and continually not honour advertised prices or sell one thing and deliver another with a surprise at exit when they adk for additional money when you have already paid all in. I haven't been back since I took my friend and they did this to him. I was considering a return visit but I think I will keep it steady. This club reminds me of some of the rip off auto service providers in the US. You go in for an $19.99 oil change and they come back and tell you that you need a new transmission and four new tires.

  10. #1760
    Quote Originally Posted by Tjohoo  [View Original Post]
    The important question is: Why would customers flock to Oceans to pay 30 E extra for something you get included in your normal 50 E in most other clubs in NRW?

    T.
    You can say the same comparing Aca to the 50 e clubs. Some try to be exclusive. With that comes a lot of things that may need to be in place first too. Question is if the market is there for it.

  11. #1759
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuni042  [View Original Post]
    Now, if this gets established, it can mean at least 3 things:

    A) we can expect the top performers to flock to Oceans, as you may get most money for a session there. But you may also loose in the # of sessoins you can do.

    B) it could become a trend for other clubs.

    C) they fail quickly, because customers, esp. Those often going to Oceans, mostly still Osmanians, will not want to afford it.
    I don't know. Pricing can be difficult, but perhaps they are just testing the waters. In any case, I won't have an opinion on it before I have seen it for myself. But I have said a few times here on the forum that 70 e would be my limit. But that requires a stellar lineup and a great club. Lets see about that lineup and the jaccuzi / pool first. Or sauna rituals like at Sharks.

  12. #1758
    Quote Originally Posted by Tjohoo  [View Original Post]
    The important question is: Why would customers flock to Oceans to pay 30 E extra for something you get included in your normal 50 E in most other clubs in NRW?

    T.
    I'm sure if Oceans was not conveniently located near public transportation and close to the airport, it would get almost zero international visitors.

    For easy access with public transportation options, I think Samya is superior and LR is acceptable if service to optics ratio is highly valued.

  13. #1757
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuni042  [View Original Post]
    we can expect the top performers to flock to Oceans, as you may get most money for a session there.
    The important question is: Why would customers flock to Oceans to pay 30 E extra for something you get included in your normal 50 E in most other clubs in NRW?

    T.

  14. #1756
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuni042  [View Original Post]
    So I checked Oceans yesterday on the Friday. I arrived at the club around 8. 30 and found a solid LU. Lots of newbies. Quite a few from downward going LivingRoom (LR). I sessioned with round, C-cup natural, blond, german, Luisa. And sessioned with Amy (german / turkish from Hamburg), and also Miriam (blonde, tallish, german former LR-girl).

    All three confirmed to me that for DFK, BBBJ etc they would charge 30 e extra. So 30 min then would turn out to be then 80 e. Not sure, if this means that 60min is 160e or 130 e, though. They claimed this is a club-wide thing and most girls are in on it. Only some rogue girls would go against this "rule".

    Now, if this gets established, it can mean at least 3 things:

    A) we can expect the top performers to flock to Oceans, as you may get most money for a session there. But you may also loose in the # of sessoins you can do.

    B) it could become a trend for other clubs.

    C) they fail quickly, because customers, esp. Those often going to Oceans, mostly still osmanians, will not want to afford it.
    Easy solution, say no and don't go in this hole anymore. So the same girls now charge 1. 6 times more for the same service, and they were far from the best at LR. They should try PHG, only the morons go there now. A girl I fucked for 40 € in Great Palace a few years ago now charges 30 € for BBBJ. It means she doubled her rate and her service was really average back in the days even for 40 €.

    Those two clubs could go bankrupt, I couldn't care less.

  15. #1755
    So I checked Oceans yesterday on the Friday. I arrived at the club around 8. 30 and found a solid LU. Lots of newbies. Quite a few from downward going LivingRoom (LR). I sessioned with round, C-cup natural, blond, german, Luisa. And sessioned with Amy (german / turkish from Hamburg), and also Miriam (blonde, tallish, german former LR-girl).

    All three confirmed to me that for DFK, BBBJ etc they would charge 30 e extra. So 30 min then would turn out to be then 80 e. Not sure, if this means that 60min is 160e or 130 e, though. They claimed this is a club-wide thing and most girls are in on it. Only some rogue girls would go against this "rule".

    Now, if this gets established, it can mean at least 3 things:

    A) we can expect the top performers to flock to Oceans, as you may get most money for a session there. But you may also loose in the # of sessoins you can do.

    B) it could become a trend for other clubs.

    C) they fail quickly, because customers, esp. Those often going to Oceans, mostly still osmanians, will not want to afford it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    I suspect if you run into it, it would be a single girl scam and not a club wide thingy.

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