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  1. #1694
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptRenno  [View Original Post]
    Finally, I got up and walked past her while glancing her way. I looked at her face and liked what I saw. I smiled at her and she smiled back sweetly. I wasn't sure where she was from. Could she be one of those rare German girls that can still be found in some FKK clubs? Had I found a unicorn? The answer was definitely JA!

    She called herself "Yuna," a variation of the Japanese name "Yuno. " I later learned that she is an enthusiast for all things Japanese. Within a short time of starting our conversation, I knew that Yuna was the one. Not just because she was German but because I immediately liked her look, her sweet personality, her femininity and her obvious intelligence. She told me she is a student who is originally from Dusseldorf and still lives there. The fact that she was a local made her even more of a unicorn.

    She spoke fluent English so it was easy to communicate with her. I proposed a one-hour encounter for 100 Euros and she accepted my offer. I asked her if she would go in the kino and she declined but that was OK. We headed for a bedroom..
    Good for you, but can find German girls who are really pretty, much prettier for me than Mandy Sharks even she is lovely, and who kiss and BBBJ without any extra, just for club rate.

    A real model type, 1,78 , discovered on this week end, kissing fluently like a real GF, so sensitive. Only 3 rooms with her for my short FKK week end, perfect week end. L wish she won't change and keep her freshness. Appointment taken for after ski time.

  2. #1693
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    She said straight out Asians spend more money than Europeans. Easier money for her. It couldn't get any clearer. I know you might wanted to hear what she said in a different tone, but it was pretty straight forward to me. As the #1 Asian hunter in German FKK's, she should have some backing on that also. Even if I as a Caucasian don't find her to be a top looker. Her game works easier on Asians apparently, but that is just 2 sides of the same coin.

    Otherwise I want to ask you to name an FKK girl that does very good with Caucasians, but across the board bad with Asians.
    Even most of Asian types are easy for girls, some busy girls don't look for them, saying not to be attracted. Mostly little girls types run after Asians, women don't need to hunt.

  3. #1692
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    There are good and bad Turks like every nationality. As long as they are nice, there is absolutely no problem. Same goes with Germans or Russians. You find both types of both kinds.
    Crazy Russians.
    Sure, I work with many very courageous Turkish, I need them for my job, they are at work at 7 am, work hard all day, they never drink alcohol, they don't eat during Ramadan, a bit different than the ones drinking all night in FKK.

    When you speak with Russian women, Russians are more drunk than crazy. At World on Winter 2014/2015 , they drunk free beer all night, then hunted girls on the last hour, so my regular seemed happy I always took her, for our second or third room of the day, at the end of the night. She never refused.

  4. #1691
    Quote Originally Posted by RogueNation  [View Original Post]
    50%? All those girls Asians don't dig or get scared of.
    Haha true. But my initial point still stands. Then again I see lots of girls not making much rooms at all some days, in most clubs. Don't know if I should feel sad about it, or if it is just how it should be. The world is not a equal place for all.

  5. #1690
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Otherwise I want to ask you to name an FKK girl that does very good with Caucasians, but across the board bad with Asians.
    50%? All those girls Asians don't dig or get scared of.

  6. #1689
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    She said straight out Asians spend more money than Europeans. Easier money for her. It couldn't get any clearer. I know you might wanted to hear what she said in a different tone, but it was pretty straight forward to me. As the #1 Asian hunter in German FKK's, she should have some backing on that also.
    I think regular mongers on this board knows that Evita is an Asian hunter No one would deny that. Everyone also knows she's too smart to say that outright. I was there. She didn't say that. That quoted statement is a very Trumpish fake news story.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Otherwise I want to ask you to name an FKK girl that does very good with Caucasians, but across the board bad with Asians.
    Any girl with a big (her) ass.

  7. #1688
    Quote Originally Posted by Takedown  [View Original Post]
    Spending big on luxuries at the fair market value is something completely different.

    No idea what Pistons is talking about regarding what Evita says.
    She said straight out Asians spend more money than Europeans. Easier money for her. It couldn't get any clearer. I know you might wanted to hear what she said in a different tone, but it was pretty straight forward to me. As the #1 Asian hunter in German FKK's, she should have some backing on that also. Even if I as a Caucasian don't find her to be a top looker. Her game works easier on Asians apparently, but that is just 2 sides of the same coin.

    Otherwise I want to ask you to name an FKK girl that does very good with Caucasians, but across the board bad with Asians.

  8. #1687
    I landed in Frankfurt early in the morning and hopped on an ICE train at the airport station, destination Dusseldorf. A couple hours later my train pulled into the main station there and I walked to my hotel which was not far from the station.

    Dusseldorf does not have much to recommend it as a tourist destination but it is a rich city full of beautiful shops. The Konigsallee is the main shopping street and it's is a great location for window shopping and people watching. The Altstadt (old town) down by the Rhine River is another pleasant part of the city to stroll around for a while. There are pedestrian streets, a pretty big outdoor market and lots of places to eat and drink.

    Of course, Dusseldorf and the area around the city also offers several venues where a man can satisfy his more lustful desires. Since I was traveling only by train and did not intend to rent a car during my trip, I chose to visit clubs that were more easily accessible by public transport or taxi. So Oceans FKK was the logical club for me to visit in Dusseldorf. I rested my first night in the city and set out for Oceans my second night.

    I had planned to use the S-bahn (and my feet) to reach the club but when I looked at the route that I had mapped out with Google Maps, I decided that I didn't want to walk the last kilometer to the club in the dark. I pondered taking a taxi but while reviewing the club's website I noticed that the club's management doesn't like customers to arrive by taxi. According to the Oceans website, taxi drivers misdirect customers who ask to be taken to Oceans to other clubs, brothels and other dens of iniquity that then pay a commission to the drivers.

    To battle this scourge of supposedly dishonest drivers, Oceans offers its own free shuttle service. I was skeptical that the shuttle was really free but the information on the website seemed straightforward so I called the club from my room and asked for a ride on the shuttle. Twenty minutes later, the hotel receptionist called my room informing me that "your driver is here. " I didn't know what to expect but we went outside and I hopped in the back seat of small Mercedes SUV. The front passenger seat was occupied by a young woman who was obviously on her way to work. When she turned to greet me, I saw that she was attractive and seemingly well qualified to work in an FKK. Hmm, so the evening was off to a good start.

    After a 15-20-minute ride through twisting and turning city streets with no other stops along the way, we arrived at Oceans. It could easily have been a 30-40 Euro taxi ride. I wondered whether the shuttle driver would ask me to pay something comparable but he didn't do so. I was thinking that I should tip the guy 10 Euros but he didn't even give me a chance since he hopped out quickly and ran into the club. I never saw him again. It really was a free shuttle.

    In the last ten years I've visited about ten FKKs in Germany, Austria and Switzerland (a few more than once) so I have enough experience to know what makes a good club but not so much that I am jaded about the FKK scene. Compared to the pay-for-play scene in the USA, almost any FKK is a fantasy come to life. Still some clubs are better than others.

    In brief I enjoyed my visit to Oceans but I have had better experiences elsewhere (such as Artemis, Oase and Globe). Using the Michelin rating system for restaurants (1 star="very good," 2 stars="worth a detour" and 3 stars="worth a journey" I would award Oceans 1 star. I don't think it's a "destination" club, but if you find yourself in the neighborhood, it's worth a visit.

    The layout of Oceans is uninspiring. It's just a big, high-ceilinged rectangular building with a bar, a dining room and kitchen off to one side, a kino behind the bar (not used by anyone while I was there), some bedrooms lined up on one side of the building and an outdoor area that was obviously not in use in March. The facilitieslocker room, showers, toiletsare fine and everything is clean and well maintained. But the overall atmosphere of the club is lacking in character, charm and sensuality.

    I got to the club at about 7:30 PM on a Tuesday night so it's not surprising that it was fairly dead when I arrived. I would estimate that there were about 20 girls on duty and probably an equal number of guys. That's not a ratio to make the girls happy.

    I'm not big on rating the quality of the lineup of girls in a club. I'm not there to judge a beauty contest but rather just to find that one girl whose company I would enjoy for an hour or so. I walked around and surveilled the girls (and they surveilled me) and my impression was that it was an average lineup. I briefly chatted with a few girls and fended off some sharks who approached me in an aggressive fashion. As usual most girls seemed to be Romanian.

    Then I retreated to the dining area. There was no buffet but there were menus on the table. Since the menu had prices on it, I wasn't sure whether my 65 Euro admission fee included food (at the end of the night, it turned out that it did). A (full clothed) female server took my order-chicken schnitzel, fries and a salad. The food, freshly prepared in the adjacent kitchen, arrived fairly quickly and it was not bad. At least it was better than some of the awful German food that I have sampled from buffets in other FKK clubs.

    After dinner I ventured back into the bar area and took up a spot close to the entrance where I could get a good look at the girls coming and going near the front of the building. I moved to the couches on the other side of the room for a while, chatted with a few girls and failed to make a connection that would inspire me to strike a deal.

    I moved back to the same seat on the end of the bar and contemplated my options. Though it wasn't that late, I had a train to catch the next morning and I didn't want to stay up half the night. I was looking for one girl with who I could spend an hour and then call it night.

    While I was scanning the room for a potential partner, my gaze suddenly fell on a girl seated with her back to me just a couple chairs away. I suddenly realized she had been sitting there alone for a while. She didn't seem to be part of any pair of girls or any clique of Romanians or other ethnic group. I couldn't see her face but she had pretty long, dirty blond hair, milky white skin and no tattoos that I could see. I watched her for a bit as she sat there serenely, seemingly unconcerned about selling her services.

    Finally, I got up and walked past her while glancing her way. I looked at her face and liked what I saw. I smiled at her and she smiled back sweetly. I wasn't sure where she was from. Could she be one of those rare German girls that can still be found in some FKK clubs? Had I found a unicorn? The answer was definitely JA!

    She called herself "Yuna," a variation of the Japanese name "Yuno. " I later learned that she is an enthusiast for all things Japanese. Within a short time of starting our conversation, I knew that Yuna was the one. Not just because she was German but because I immediately liked her look, her sweet personality, her femininity and her obvious intelligence. She told me she is a student who is originally from Dusseldorf and still lives there. The fact that she was a local made her even more of a unicorn.

    She spoke fluent English so it was easy to communicate with her. I proposed a one-hour encounter for 100 Euros and she accepted my offer. I asked her if she would go in the kino and she declined but that was OK. We headed for a bedroom.

    I hadn't really gotten a good look at Yuna's body while we were sitting at the bar but once she stood up I could see that her hourglass figure fit my preferences: full natural boobs, a slender waist and nice hips. She has a sexy German student look because, well, she is a sexy German student.

    Once in the bedroom our encounter proceeded well and I was pleased with Yuna's service. She complies with the German law requiring a covered BJ. But she did perform this task with enthusiasm and sensuality. She was happy to allow me to return the favor and she tasted clean and fresh.

    Yuna doesn't kiss and I realize that for some guys that's a show-stopper. It's great when a girl is willing to kiss and especially when she does so willingly and enthusiastically. But she had told me that she doesn't kiss when we negotiated the terms of our deal back at the bar. I like it but it's not a requirement for me. I'm more concerned with the girl's overall look and attitude and I found Yuna to my liking in those respects.

    Sex with Yuna was great. She seems to like sex and she performed with enthusiasm, stamina and good humor. She happily maneuvered herself into different positions and performed well in all of them. She happily allowed me to finish on her boobs and she asked for no extra charge. She stayed with me until the full hour was up.

    Because of my travel plans for the next day, I couldn't stay around long enough to try another girl so I showered and left after my encounter with Yuna. I took a taxi back to the hotel (near the main train station) and it cost 30 Euros.

    All things considered, I had a good time at Oceans. Some of the credit for that goes to Yuna, a girl who met most of my desires in an FKK girl. Oceans is a club worth visiting if you find yourself in Dusseldorf but it's definitely not a destination club. As I said, I give it one Michelin star.

  9. #1686

    Good experience in Oceans.

    I was 2 days ago on Thursday from 8.30 to 10 pm at Oceans. And I enjoyed it. Paid 40 euro entrance fee. Note, that they always try to trick you into 60 e. LU was OK- spotted about 5 Germans. My favourites. Unfortunately there were no busty girls. Which is yet another fetish of mine.

  10. #1685
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    That one guy is like most Germans. Maybe partly because he lives in Germany also. You do have a point, but so do I. Of course the vacation factor is strong, but even in south east Asia, north east Asians are spending more than Europeans. You can tell just by looking at the price tags on the girls they take from soapies or gogo bars.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Except Evita kinda told us how that breakdown was. And she should probably be the for most expert on it I would think.
    Spending big on luxuries at the fair market value is something completely different.

    No idea what Pistons is talking about regarding what Evita says.

  11. #1684
    Quote Originally Posted by SamsonMonger  [View Original Post]
    . One is especially cheap and each one rarely tips.
    That one guy is like most Germans. Maybe partly because he lives in Germany also. You do have a point, but so do I. Of course the vacation factor is strong, but even in south east Asia, north east Asians are spending more than Europeans. You can tell just by looking at the price tags on the girls they take from soapies or gogo bars.

  12. #1683
    Quote Originally Posted by SamsonMonger  [View Original Post]
    I hear a lot of this but I wonder how guys know this "fact". Assume is more the word. Perhaps some of the Asians are big spenders sure, but does anyone know for a fact that the 200 euro half hour did not include CIM and Anal? I know a couple of French guys who always spend 200/ HR because of extras but no one notices when westerners pay loads of money. I think Asians are more noticeable to European mongers and some people create this in their heads to make them feel better when none actually know the proportional breakdown of the demographics of people who overpay.
    Except Evita kinda told us how that breakdown was. And she should probably be the for most expert on it I would think.

  13. #1682
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Don't fire the messenger. I didn't think it was a secret also. And you heard Evita too.
    I hear a lot of this but I wonder how guys know this "fact". Assume is more the word. Perhaps some of the Asians are big spenders sure, but does anyone know for a fact that the 200 euro half hour did not include CIM and Anal? I know a couple of French guys who always spend 200/ HR because of extras but no one notices when westerners pay loads of money. I think Asians are more noticeable to European mongers and some people create this in their heads to make them feel better when none actually know the proportional breakdown of the demographics of people who overpay.

    When I'm thinking of at least four Asians that we both know mutually. All four have different tastes, rather than flock thinking based on reciews. None of the four ever overpays. One is especially cheap and each one rarely tips. So I don't know where you get your conclusions from outside of popular opinion on this board which is passed onto WGs to repeat.

    Evita of Sharks is an Asian specialist but I do not recall her ever saying anything of the sort. She's too smart to say any like that outright.

    Conclusion, sure perhaps there are a lot of big spenders who are Asian but they are also the ones who come from far spending holiday money. That can be said for all holiday spenders. Do they disproportionately pay needlessly? The ones Pistons personally knows do not.

  14. #1681
    Quote Originally Posted by SamsonMonger  [View Original Post]
    Post like these make me start to think Asians in German FKKs are being scapegoated the way Jews were in in 1930's Germany.
    Don't fire the messenger. I didn't think it was a secret also. And you heard Evita too.

  15. #1680
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Maybe if you only take 1 HR rooms. Sure. But on the other hand, it may be best to not have this option in NRW also since it would have brought in too many tourists. At least if you would be competing with set tourists and not having the girls know you. And that could have had far worse consequences. If the girls want to hunt easy money Asian, American and Asian American tourists, there is always sharks and Oase. Oceans might want to be the Sharks / Oase of nrw, but it lacks the clientelle. Girls there don't like it and want the easy money Asian tourists. A few even told me they are considering turning into Asian huntresses because of the easier money. So they ask me where to find the most Asians. In the end it is a balance. What we do know is that Asians like blonde hair, slim legs, and care more about internet reviews and flock think, than their own experiences. And that's where we are at the moment. Girls in NRW want to stay in NRW. Girls in Hessen wants to stay in Hessen. Locals in Hessen advertise Hessen clubs in trade for cheaper entry from having tourists pay the girls so they get discounts for themselves. And the rest of us just have to navigate a messed up environment where mongers and girls are stuck and not enough on the road.
    Prices were the way they were for over decade before Oceans changed it and everything was fine.

    Post like these make me start to think Asians in German FKKs are being scapegoated the way Jews were in in 1930's Germany.

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