FKK Oceans Düsseldorf

[Takedown]

Yes, it seemed random how the girls there strategize with kissing. The girl who didn't kiss me, but you as in your example said it was due to me not having asked about it before entering the room. Out goes the idea of not discussing upselling before the room I suppose. And she said flat out that she would have if I had asked first. But while in the room it was not part of the deal. When I returned, the same girl gave me an offer for 10 hours one day for 700 e (50% discount), and said she obviously kisses now. So many girls just make their own rules and may prey on who they think are newbies.

I didn't ask either. Some guys just have a more kissable face than others. Subjectively for each girl of course.

[Pistons]

May be best to move this out of the Oceans thread and into the austrian forum?

Yes, it seemed random how the girls there strategize with kissing. The girl who didn't kiss me, but you as in your example said it was due to me not having asked about it before entering the room. Out goes the idea of not discussing upselling before the room I suppose. And she said flat out that she would have if I had asked first. But while in the room it was not part of the deal. When I returned, the same girl gave me an offer for 10 hours one day for 700 e (50% discount), and said she obviously kisses now. So many girls just make their own rules and may prey on who they think are newbies.

[Dubner32]

Takedown,

Thank you for fair summary below. Despite two excellent kissers on recent trip I also see one 'angel' at W, currently absent, who only baby kisses.

In the words of JS and Meatloaf, "Two out of three ain't bad".

D.

[Takedown]

Apologies Polyam,

Your statement below on 'No kissing at W' is out of date. Enthusiastic DFK (included in E70 standard 30 min, without prior discussion) from 2 providers at W yesterday. Full report to follow on W thread.

The.

I've had five different girls at Wellcum. One gave kissing for free but denied a monger a I was with. Another gave kisses to me and all fellow mongers. Another said she kiss but gave only baby kisses. A fourth said she usually charges 30 E but did not charge me because we had a one hour session and partook in some smoking herb. The fifth strictly said 30 Euro even if we went for an hour.

So that's 1 girl who kissed every one, 1 girl who chooses based on client preference, 1 who gave bad kissing, and 2 who usually charge extra. Point is, albeit with my limited sample size, but above average success rate at other clubs, the rate of free kissing at Wellcum is less than half guaranteed but not out of the question.

(My attempt of keeping information on this board objective).

[Takedown]

It is hard to access, but train and taxi can be done, just long train hours can be annoying.

It seems good club for summer vacation for one week, but if LU is bad there, then I am stuck LOL.

As for DFK, I always find way.

This is not personal experience at Wellcum right?

I hope posters who give advice and suggestions do so from personal experience. This post is benign but other posts on other topics lead to misinformation or spread of second hand information that had not been verified.

[Pistons]

The majority kisses from my experience there also. 80-90% from what I have gathered. I have only met 2 girls there who flat out said no kissing. Out of 20+ I've talked to.

[Mr Ho]

It's worse than it looks. There is a long and ridiculous detour involved. In Austria they take great pains to keep the hoi polloi out of the FKKs.

Wellcum was the highest-class FKK I visited in Austria. I will never forget the near-virgin from Marrakesh I met there. She was part of the reason I became an Arab (poly backstory). Also the jacuzzi is very fine.

However, there were two important reasons that made me decide Wellcum would never be a regular club for me:

1. The aforementioned inaccessibility.

2. The no-kissing policy. I could tell the Marrakesh girl wanted DFK, but she had been told it was not allowed.

It is hard to access, but train and taxi can be done, just long train hours can be annoying.

It seems good club for summer vacation for one week, but if LU is bad there, then I am stuck LOL.

As for DFK, I always find way.

[Dubner32]

Apologies Polyam,

Your statement below on 'No kissing at W' is out of date. Enthusiastic DFK (included in E70 standard 30 min, without prior discussion) from 2 providers at W yesterday. Full report to follow on W thread.

The.

[Sirioja]

It's worse than it looks. There is a long and ridiculous detour involved. In Austria they take great pains to keep the hoi polloi out of the FKKs.

Wellcum was the highest-class FKK I visited in Austria. I will never forget the near-virgin from Marrakesh I met there. She was part of the reason I became an Arab (poly backstory). Also the jacuzzi is very fine.

However, there were two important reasons that made me decide Wellcum would never be a regular club for me:

1. The aforementioned inaccessibility.

2. The no-kissing policy. I could tell the Marrakesh girl wanted DFK, but she had been told it was not allowed.

Is this no kissing policy written somewhere at Wellcum? Maybe in Italian, so I couldn't understand. I found a great kisser for 6 rooms for 1 hour on 4 days. No extra asked, real GFE who gave me pillow to put under her ass to DATY her and made her cum. She was one of the busiest.

[Polyamorist]

Aha, so it is close to villach, I just googled it and it is only about 20 min taxi ride.

It's worse than it looks. There is a long and ridiculous detour involved. In Austria they take great pains to keep the hoi polloi out of the FKKs.

Wellcum was the highest-class FKK I visited in Austria. I will never forget the near-virgin from Marrakesh I met there. She was part of the reason I became an Arab (poly backstory). Also the jacuzzi is very fine.

However, there were two important reasons that made me decide Wellcum would never be a regular club for me:

1. The aforementioned inaccessibility.

2. The no-kissing policy. I could tell the Marrakesh girl wanted DFK, but she had been told it was not allowed.

[Pistons]

Re-reading your post I better see your point. Oceans could apply similar tactics as those used by the other clubs you mentioned to entice more ladies for early entry.

I believe they already do. But I am unsure which other clubs in NRW also does this.

[Chongmal]

I think you missed the point of my post here. Reread and retry. Not sure how I can make it more clear.

Re-reading your post I better see your point. Oceans could apply similar tactics as those used by the other clubs you mentioned to entice more ladies for early entry.

[Pistons]

I kept my input focused on the question, how is Oceans between 2 pm and 5 pm. My suggestion was to consider clubs in the area that open at 11 am as they will likely have more women. Even for you with your speedy car and many km per week would find it hard to get from Dusseldorf to Austria or Switzerland and back in 3 hours.

I think you missed the point of my post here. Reread and retry. Not sure how I can make it more clear.

[Pistons]

Since the OP asked about 2 pm to 5 pm and Aca serves BBQ upstairs starting at 3 pm, it certainly is not obsolete.

Good point. When they do serve BBQ at 3 outside it is much better. But now I forgot when they do this. During winter it was inside and much worse iirc.

[Chongmal]

Actually some clubs give discount entry rates to the girls who show up as soon as the club opens. I am not 100% sure if Oceans does this, but I believe maybe they do. Wellcum for one has this discount deal at least, and other clubs like Artemis and I believe perhaps Oase has something similar. So for some of these clubs the lineup at 11 or 14 should be roughly the same. But at 16.30 you will start seeing difference since then the girls not bothering about the entry discounts arrive. I don't have a full list of clubs with this strategy unfortunately, and it is mainly just what girls tell me.

I kept my input focused on the question, how is Oceans between 2 pm and 5 pm. My suggestion was to consider clubs in the area that open at 11 am as they will likely have more women. Even for you with your speedy car and many km per week would find it hard to get from Dusseldorf to Austria or Switzerland and back in 3 hours.