FKK Oceans Düsseldorf

[Nille Copenhagen]

But his wife is looking really natural:

http://bilder.bild.de/fotos-skaliert....jpg%3C/div%3E

She is his right hand! LOL a silicone blond to run the business for Berti, Cute! LOL.

How about the helicopter and the yacht, anyone has seen them?

[Willi69]

The owner looks like a plastic version of Rod Stewart.

But his wife is looking really natural:

http://bilder.bild.de/fotos-skaliert....jpg%3C/div%3E

[Willi69]

So Bert is not the owner, but he used to own the clubs that closed down and got busted for doping drinks.

Yes, so it is.

but Bert was not involved in it?

None of the allegations has been proven in court. Most of the defendants are free again.

And F39 was formerly owned by Turkish group who currently own Oceans?

That's really sophisticated. Originally Freude 39 and Salome belonged to a person called "Der Blinde" ("the blind man" he had to leave the clubs under threat of violence. On ownership was decided later in court.

Is Magnum owned by Turkish too? I thought it got merged with Harem which was Turkish owned and German owned club.

Harem in Dormagen is closed since several months. It shall be a Noble-Magnum II. Magnum belongs to German people. The same who control Planet Happy Garden.

[Willi69]

No whirlpool there?

No whirlpool, no swimming pool. They had built a swimming pool in the garden, without permission, and had to fill it.

They have a Finnish sauna, a steam sauna, a Haman and a salt cave.

[Willi69]

Let's hope that FKK Oceans will be a club welcoming to all clientele in good standing within the mongering community.

At least at this moment, all people are welcome if they can pay the entry fee.

[PussyLiccker]

Bert is not the owner of Oceans, he was just their marketing gimmick. Given how the club was plugged in Freude Herne and how Freude girls moved to Oceans in the beginning, it is pretty likely the owner of Oceans is the former owner of the old Freude clubs. Especially now that Herne has become Salome again and tht "old Freude" is back but (seemingly) under new management.

That's wrong. These clubs belonged to Bert Wollersheim who ist not the owner of Oceans. That are Turkish people who controlled (or control?) before Freude 39 in Bochum and Salome in Herne. Bert is only the figurehead of Oceans.

The brothels on the Rethelstrae are closed, the operators on trial for stealing money from credit cards of customer knocked out with drugs in their drinks. Anyway, they were no more related to Wollersheim.

Source: http://www.rp-online.de/nrw/staedte/...-aid-1.4588785.

I'm confused now. So Bert is not the owner, but he used to own the clubs that closed down and got busted for doping drinks, but Bert was not involved in it? And F39 was formerly owned by Turkish group who currently own Oceans? Or the other way around?

Is Magnum owned by Turkish too? I thought it got merged with Harem which was Turkish owned and German owned club. So it has two ownerships. So the girls coming are coming from ACA, Magnum, and old F39? So the girls coming to Oceans are sourced to Turkish managers?

[Citizen Kane]

The owner looks like a plastic version of Rod Stewart.

There's a healthy dose of Liberace in there as well...

[Wanking]

http://youtu.be/syioKr-mT8o

No whirlpool there?? Doesn't show one in the video or website http://www.fkk-oceans.de/.

The owner looks like a plastic version of Rod Stewart.

[Varenne]

http://www.rethel-online.de/en-us/

The brothels on the Rethelstraße are closed, the operators on trial for stealing money from credit cards of customer knocked out with drugs in their drinks. Anyway, they were no more related to Wollersheim.

Source: http://www.rp-online.de/nrw/staedte/...-aid-1.4588785.

[The Cane]

Bert is not the owner of Oceans, he was just their marketing gimmick. Given how the club was plugged in Freude Herne and how Freude girls moved to Oceans in the beginning, it is pretty likely the owner of Oceans is the former owner of the old Freude clubs. Especially now that Herne has become Salome again and that "old Freude" is back but (seemingly) under new management.

Do you mean like Freude 39? If so, then I hope that the "old" allegations of racial discrimination that hung over that place do not place a shadow over FKK Oceans too! I never went to Freude 39 as it just did not get good reviews from most and seemed to be even a bit dirty, let alone the charges of a racist door policy. Let's hope that FKK Oceans will be a club welcoming to all clientele in good standing within the mongering community.

[Willi69]

It would be interesting to know which part of the club are suitable for wheelchairs, and which are not.

All areas are at ground level: reception, locker room, bar, restaurant, wellness area, showers, toilets, garden and a part of rooms. There are no steps on the ground floor. On the first and second floor there are more rooms.

http://www.rethel-online.de/en-us/

That's wrong. These clubs belonged to Bert Wollersheim who ist not the owner of Oceans. That are Turkish people who controlled (or control?) before Freude 39 in Bochum and Salome in Herne. Bert is only the figurehead of Oceans.

[Free Dude]

Bert is not the owner of Oceans, he was just their marketing gimmick. Given how the club was plugged in Freude Herne and how Freude girls moved to Oceans in the beginning, it is pretty likely the owner of Oceans is the former owner of the old Freude clubs. Especially now that Herne has become Salome again and tht "old Freude" is back but (seemingly) under new management.

[BigBuddy69]

Hello Simex.
The club owner runs another club. Do you know which one that is? .

http://www.rethel-online.de/en-us/

I'm sorry but I really hope that Oceans will be a trainwreck and that all the prices around (especially in LR) revert back to normal.

[Varenne]

At least on opening evening, elegant visitors can stay in civies (robe and towels are available on request). Let's hope that at least the girls will honour the FKK designation.

- You can still stay in civies after 22:00 if you wish, but then you must pay an 100€ entry fee instead of the normal 55€ (oh, but if you change your mind you can still get a robe for free!)

- Taxi drivers disappointed by the current lack of hordes of customers begging for a drive, can still console themselves with a specially dedicated offer: entry price is reduced to 40€ on Sundays and Mondays when they exhibit their taxi driver license. The same offer applies to pensioners (they must prove their pensioner status).

- Disabled only pay 40€, and are allowed to undress in the toilet or shower area. Their helpers must pay the full 55€ price. It would be interesting to know which part of the club are suitable for wheelchairs, and which are not.

- Couples only pay 55€ (the website specifies that the payment is asked to the male part). The woman must wear a robe which makes her identifiable as a guest.

- At this moment in time, single women are granted free entry.

[Nille Copenhagen]

Let us give the club a chance, no club is perfect from day 1.

I'm sure Ocean would be good like Artemis in Berlin. The location is easy and convenient, the price is higher, the HW is new.

The girls must find their way to the club first, it's the chicken and egg situation, more nice girls more customers, vice versa.