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12-13-19 16:35 #628
Posts: 5454Considering Bangkok for retirement?
Bangkok jumps up cost-of-living table.
Strong baht pushes capital into top 50 globally in survey of expat living costs.
12 DEC 2019
https://www.bangkokpost.com/business...f-living-table
However:
"Certain living costs, such as accommodation rental, utilities, car purchases and school fees are usually covered by separate allowances. Data for these costs are collected separately and are not included in ECA's cost of living basket."
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12-13-19 09:43 #627
Posts: 1854Poppers
Are poppers illegal in Thailand? Don't want to risk bringing anything in that could get me in trouble. I've seen conflicting comments online. Some say illegal, some guys say they've had no issue even showing them in suitcases at Customs. Does anyone know the actual position please?
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10-11-19 04:34 #626
Posts: 1222Originally Posted by Paolo99 [View Original Post]
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10-10-19 03:25 #625
Posts: 926Originally Posted by Franciscass [View Original Post]
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10-09-19 08:18 #624
Posts: 1222Originally Posted by Syzygies [View Original Post]
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10-09-19 05:25 #623
Posts: 12856Originally Posted by Franciscass [View Original Post]
Thai girls can sell vegies, pineapples or durians in the province for extreme low money. They can go to Bangkok and work a factory, food stall, waitress, paint fingernails, or become a hooker. If they have to get enough money to support poor parents, sisters, and try to have the child get a decent education (unlike the mother), then the low level jobs are not going to pay enough. Many are single mothers. No husband to help out. If she is at all good looking, hooking becomes an option, even if part time. Could hope to hook a sponsor.
I know a young Lao girl like this, pretty and would love me to be her old sugar daddy, but I have a Mrs already. Her financial struggles are severe. She needs an operation but can't afford it (at least so I heard). Probably 100 K baht or more. Hard for her to hook a good guy when she has no English. Her brother is stuck in prison with medical problems, from dealing drugs most likely (she does not know or tell. But guys don't have the hooking option). Meanwhile the levels of customers in the MPs and bars, etc. Are quite low. I heard from more than one MP girl, can go several days with no customer. Same for bar girls not getting a customer every day, especially those with poor English.
If the girl had English, she could probably do very well standing on Soi 4 because hers looks are superior. Probably needs to use smart phone to translate messages similar to what the deaf girls do.
I just give example of girl whose health is not the best and education very poor, and her work options to make money to save for operation are quite limited. Also she is just not used to working really hard. Tires easily.
She tried learning fingernail care (but I don't see that as having much earning potential). She tried being a waitress but was too demanding based on the physical health. I advised to try to learn English quickly and hook a rich Farang sponsor. Can't see any other way out for her future. She is a really nice enthusiastic fuck and good looking. That is one plus. Her circumstances are extremely shitty.
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10-08-19 12:22 #622
Posts: 1222Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
As to her family members having jobs from Chinese relocated businesses this will only happen if the new factories are situated close to where they live. Its possible incentives will lure then to Essan but supply chain and logistic infrastructure will be more important making the EEC more suitable.
I would agree increased job opportunities influences the number of working girls available, the question becomes by how much. There are other factors at play. Increasing numbers of girls working abroad, more girls not lured by the easy money wanting instead to get a degree and pursue a career and quite possibly more girls better understanding that selling sex is maybe not such a smart choice to make.
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10-07-19 22:39 #621
Posts: 1310Originally Posted by Syzygies [View Original Post]
The exchange rate doesn't hurt me. In fact, if it was 10 b to the buck, it wouldn't matter in the slightest.
The food has always been decent and cheap in thermae by the way.
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10-07-19 17:44 #620
Posts: 5454Originally Posted by DCups [View Original Post]
There might have been a mildly interesting carrot dangling in front of some companies thinking about moving out of China to set up factories in Thailand and thereby improve its economy before. Or to choose Thailand over China in the first place. But this current politically motivated tariff and trade war declared by the USA added a big paddle on the butts of companies to do it sooner, faster and in greater numbers.
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10-07-19 17:28 #619
Posts: 5454Originally Posted by Syzygies [View Original Post]
Yes, there will be some who fit that profile. But it requires a depressed economy for whole families in order to get armies of young, good looking girls showing up to give high level sex services to strangers every night. Witness the economic conditions that existed during the oft mentioned heydays of great Thai P4P in the late 1990's and early 2000's.
Still, on the issue of an expat's ability to retire and live in Thailand, unrelated to the issue of more highly motivated P4P girls showing up for the job, I would say Thailand is still a much better deal than living in retirement in the USA. Including in Bangkok.
I can't speak for other countries. But if you can meet the 65,000 THB per month income requirement or similar annual deposit kept in a Thai bank, you should be able to rent a better than average Western-suitable apartment in the most popular expat areas of the city, eat whatever you want every day, get out and around on public transportation, enjoy high speed internet at home and on the go and even afford decent catastrophic health care coverage. And you can pick up the meal tab and more for a girlfriend or two much of the time as well.
Here is what was said about a retiree from the U. K. at the start of that linked article:
"The former aircraft technician easily bought a townhouse, pickup truck and motorcycle when he arrived at the age of 55 two decades ago. Back then the pound bought about 60 baht, but now it fetches a little less than 38 baht."
He was foolish to have counted on the exchange rate and economic conditions to remain the same as they were during one of the worst downturns in modern Thai history. And it appears he is trying to duplicate all the amenities and toys of a gainfully employed man in his home country.
In my case, two of the biggest cost saving advantages to retirement in Bangkok vs staying in the USA was that I can rent a decent place for very little money (and while the property I own in the USA is generating rental income in USD) and have no need to own a car with all the attendent purchase, insurance, fuel and maintenance costs.
Those two factors alone offset at least $1,500-$2,000USD in retirement costs per month compared to staying in the USA.
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10-07-19 14:48 #618
Posts: 3056Originally Posted by NattyBumpo [View Original Post]
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10-07-19 09:33 #617
Posts: 12856Originally Posted by Nyezhov [View Original Post]
The cost of grilled chicken and deep fried chicken has risen a lot, even carts selling fruit seem pricey. Could be the Sukhumvit tourist area has much higher prices as vendors may pay a lot for their spot on a touristy street. I can still buy some veg at the Supermarket in the province cheaply. 3 large carrots cost me just under 8 Baht. Wow! Raw chicken pieces were about 67 Baht per Kilo. I cooked it myself.
Its a terrible exchange rate hurting me most these days.
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10-07-19 03:29 #616
Posts: 5454Originally Posted by Franciscass [View Original Post]
There really is no scenario where more industry choosing Thailand in order to avoid potential trade war hassle in China improves the chances of an 18 year old Thai hottie in the factory areas leaving her friends, family and baby, hopping on a bus to go to Bkk or Pattaya or anywhere else in the country and wade through the increasing number of ethnic undesirables (to Thais) in order to fuck and suck foreigners for money. Or to even leave that option uneffected negatively.
Yes, factories were moving into Thailand before the USA-China trade war. And I think we have seen the choices diminish, service levels decline and prices rise for getting less right along. So now the USA-China trade war has motivated MORE international conglomerates to look at, consider and decide to move to Thailand sooner and faster. Not just for now but in order to avoid future potential USA-China antagonism.
Elections have consequences. And, very often, not just for the people in the country where those elections take place.
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10-06-19 14:36 #615
Posts: 1310Originally Posted by Syzygies [View Original Post]
Thermae just raised their prices by 10 baht though. That's 30 cents to you Americans. That means if you pound down 20 drinks at thermae you paid an extra $6. I'm sure that some folks who post here are squealing about it.
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10-06-19 05:25 #614
Posts: 1222My Two Cents
Relocating Chinese production is moving to countries where labor is cheap. It was already happening before the tariffs. Most of it goes to Vietnam Cambodia Bangladesh and other countries with lower labor costs than Thailand. It follows that those that do come here will most likely pay no more than the 300 Baht minimum wage. Thai girls who decide to enter the P4P business already have the opportunity to work in factories in construction, in retail, in hospitality and other segments of the economy. There is actually a shortage of Thai people available or willing to fill these positions as evidenced by the millions of Cambodians Laotians and Burmese working here. I don't see how the limited number of Chinese factories moving here will change that mindset. I agree yes the principal reason girls enter the P4P business is money. What I don't agree it is because they cannot find work in a Chinese factory.